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"Major changes" coming for Boston Celtics?
ESPN's Shams Charania via: "This iteration just is not going to be sustainable..."
"Major changes" coming for Boston Celtics?
ESPN's Shams Charania via: "This iteration just is not going to be sustainable..."
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00:00And Shams with a little buzzkill yesterday on the Pat McAfee show
00:06and changes may be coming to the Boston Celtics.
00:10We talked about this earlier.
00:13But, I mean, if Jason Tatum is your guy, then it's got to be –
00:17you're going to have to go forward with maybe one J and not both Js,
00:22and you'll find out if Jason Tatum is the guy.
00:25I am officially against this in any capacity.
00:27I will not give the new ownership the pass of the new – what the CBA means.
00:31I have the Celtics draft history right in front of me.
00:34So you heard him say they could freeze draft picks.
00:37Ooh, boy.
00:38So since the Celtics drafted Jason Tatum in 2017, that is eight years ago,
00:45there is one player that the Celtics drafted that is a contributing member to the team,
00:51and that's Peyton Pritchard.
00:53He was drafted 26th overall five years ago.
00:56So if you lose your draft picks, you're going to be picking 29th or 30th every year anyway.
01:02It doesn't matter.
01:02I don't care.
01:03Pay the effing tax.
01:04Like, this team is ready-made with the best players being in the middle of their prime
01:09or entering their prime.
01:11I don't get – like, Wiggy is okay with it.
01:13If they win it this year, Wiggy's okay with it.
01:17I'm not okay with it.
01:18Like, if you win it this year, that means, to me, you have to keep the band together.
01:24Like, I don't think he's saying he's okay with it.
01:26I'm not okay with it.
01:28I'm saying that if you win it back-to-back –
01:31It's more likely.
01:31It's more likely, and it lessens the blow for – because you're not going from being
01:36one of the better teams in the NBA to, all right, now they traded all these guys
01:41and it's just Jason Tatum.
01:42They stink.
01:42Like, that's not going to be the thing.
01:44The thing is going to be, he said five guys.
01:47That's basically your five starters.
01:49That's the two Js, Porzingis, Derek White, and Drew Holiday.
01:54So, in order for it to work moving forward, you as an organization have to say, okay,
02:00do we potentially keep the Js and lose the other three?
02:04And then we plug, you know, Pete Pritch becomes a starter.
02:07Then we find another, you know.
02:09I'm just – the concept of the big three.
02:12Right.
02:12Wherever that is, is, I guess, maybe, not going to be something that is sustainable
02:19in the NBA going forward because of the collective bargaining agreement.
02:23Now, I would guess that the Lakers are going to do everything that they possibly can
02:29to line their big three up.
02:31Yeah, it's about – it can be done, but the owner's got to be willing to pay the taxes
02:37and penalties and the payroll.
02:39But generally, you see, like, Golden State's owner did it because he knew they built a new
02:45arena in San Francisco.
02:47The Lakers are able to do it because they own their arena.
02:50This owner might say, well, we're not going to do it because guess what?
02:54We have to pay rent every single year, and who knows what that costs.
02:58So that might be a factor on we need to trim some of that payroll so we can get that number
03:06lower.
03:07Curtis wanted us to put a poll up this morning, and we did, and 121 votes in.
03:14And would you be okay with major changes to the Celtics roster this offseason?
03:20And as you would imagine, 67.8% are not okay with those changes.
03:26I do wish we had added if they won a championship.
03:29If they won, if it makes a difference.
03:31Yeah, if it makes a difference.
03:32But I'm with Greg.
03:34But in Wiggy, I understand you saying you wouldn't be okay with it, but it does seem like you
03:37would rather bring in a Giannis.
03:39Yeah, that's what he wants.
03:40Right.
03:41No, no, but you have to do that to still be competitive.
03:44Right?
03:44You have to do that.
03:45If you can't pay the starting five because they're all making over $28 million, you have
03:50to figure out and say, okay, who are we willing to lose so we can lower that number, and then
03:57who can we bring in to still keep us competitive to compete for a championship?
04:03I was talking to a guy last night who loves Jason Tatum and Giannis together.
04:07Like, if you could ever make that happen, doesn't care if that means that Jalen Brown is gone,
04:13if that means that Kristaps Borzingis is gone, doesn't matter.
04:17And that guy's mine.
04:18But if you're the Celtics ownership in front office and you're Brad Stevens, you have to
04:24start looking.
04:25If the new owner is saying to you, we're not paying this, we have to figure it out.
04:29You now have to look and say what's important.
04:31And I would also say this, Greg.
04:33Like, I don't want the media.
04:34I know Comcast.
04:36I know the rights holders.
04:37I know the people out there will talk about this like it's a fait accompli.
04:41That they have to do this to remain viable.
04:43Unless the new owners show me their spreadsheets and say this is money we're losing, I don't
04:48believe it.
04:49And there's nothing you can tell me that they could do that would jeopardize this run that
04:54was years in the making to get this collection of guys together under contract in Boston for
05:00this period.
05:01But to be clear with the direction that they're going to go in, they're now using the basketball
05:08penalty portion.
05:10Right.
05:10The second apron.
05:11It's not the money.
05:13It's the penalty that the team is going to suffer.
05:16What puts you into the second apron?
05:21Spending money.
05:22Yes.
05:22Right.
05:22So this is a rule that the owners, WIC, all the owners of the NBA put into place.
05:30So if you say, if you go to the ATM and you take out $500 and you go out and you're gambling
05:35and you tell Brees, we only have $500.
05:38Yeah.
05:39That's true.
05:40But you could have taken out more than $500.
05:42It's not the only thing you have in your bank account.
05:44And so I just don't believe the owners.
05:47If you're going to tell me that you're buying this team at the top of its value at $6 billion
05:51and your first act is to cut costs, then I say you're full of crap.
05:54Right.
05:55This is Bill in the car.
05:57Bill, good morning.
05:59Good morning, guys.
06:00I just wanted to say that they should leave it together and just win about five or six
06:07in a row, and then they'll be worth even more.
06:11Yeah.
06:12Your lips to Bill Chisholm's ears, I guess.
06:15If Bill Chisholm had Jeff Bezos' money, maybe he doesn't.
06:18But does it seem like, all right, if you're cutting costs, don't you look and go, okay,
06:25well, I mean, I got money.
06:27Don't get it twisted.
06:28I'm not saying he don't got money.
06:29But he's like, don't have to have funny money where Bezos is like, all right, I'm paying
06:34the luxury tax.
06:35Not many people do.
06:36I mean, it's really Bezos and Elon.
06:42But again, like you're spending, this happens if you're going to pay the most ever for an
06:49NBA franchise $6 billion, then you're either going to be all in and spend whatever it takes
06:55or you're going to find a way to make that work for you.
06:58Because if Sham's saying it right, isn't he hearing whispers from what potentially people
07:05in the front office of the Celtics are thinking?
07:07I know, kind of the way he said it, he's kind of like hearing it around the league, like
07:11the league is saying, there's no way they can keep this going, and there's no way that
07:15they can keep doing this.
07:16But Curtis is right.
07:17They can do it as long as they want.
07:18Curtis was also right, though.
07:19It's interesting timing for this to come out.
07:21Of course.
07:21The day that they approved the sale, now we're past the point of no return.
07:25The most plugged-in guy in the sports telling you what their plans are.
07:28This is Scott from Westford.
07:30Hey, Scott.
07:31What's going on?
07:33Good morning.
07:34How are you?
07:34We're doing great.
07:35We're in Springfield, Massachusetts.
07:38Good morning.
07:39Love it.
07:40Great road show attendance.
07:41Great crowd last night at TAPS.
07:44We're awesome.
07:45Scott.
07:46I can't wait to go body surfing before Bernie's again.
07:50This will be the third one.
07:52All right.
07:53Excellent.
07:53That's me.
07:53Anyways, so I have a question, and this is a legit question for the whole room and everybody.
08:04So all these taxes, if they spend money, obviously they're going to earn money because we're all
08:11fans and whatnot.
08:12But whose pockets get lined by all these fines?
08:17Is it the commissioner?
08:19Is it all the owners?
08:20How does that work?
08:22It goes back to the league.
08:25It's not about paying the bills.
08:27It's about penalizing teams.
08:29It's about trying to create parity.
08:32You know, same with the NFL.
08:34It's not about trying to raise funds to keep the lights on at the league office.
08:39But it is a legal form of collusion.
08:41Like, it's something that the owners do legally in a collective bargaining agreement to tell
08:45players this is as much as we'll spend before we have massive penalties.
08:48And the Celtics being ahead of this, what Wick said to us at Wachusett resonated because he
08:55said, I don't think there will be any team that spends two years in the second apron.
09:02And that means that they're not going to do it and they're going to cut costs.
09:05Yeah.
09:06Well, you better enjoy this one while you can.
09:08Right.
09:08Right.
09:09So...