Would this '25 #Celtics team beat the '86 Boston Celtics? Greg and Curtis debate! Which team are you taking in a 7-game series? #NBA
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00:00there's no way that you have bataze down there's absolutely no way who's bataze is that there's
00:06there we go that that group that was just singing no oh that's the other dude who came in i forgot
00:12about him yeah i didn't know what that guy's name was we have honestly we've reached the point in
00:20the nba where a player uh attempting to uh embellish is committing fouls while attempting
00:28to embellish that's the point that we've reached in the nba just to be clear i forgot about him i was
00:33like where'd they get this dude from right i ain't seen him in the first game and then all of a sudden
00:38they brought this scrabines off the bench and he uh he cuts open chris stops listen we talked about it
00:44a lot at the start of the show first hour but you're able to win the first playoff game that
00:49that this iteration of team has been in without jason tatum so um i don't play him tomorrow bodes
00:57you said that that was your lead this morning is that you would you would not play jason tatum
01:00tomorrow night in orlando uh this is kyle from lowell what's up kyle hey how's it going what's up
01:11it's awesome it's awesome we won without tatum but i mean i gotta say i i agree with greg a little
01:17bit on this if tatum isn't seriously hurt and it was just cautionary he needs to be playing i mean
01:23the celtics are in the middle of trying to solidify themselves in history as one of the
01:27greatest basketball teams of all time yeah and the way kcp is playing and certain teams are going to
01:34play is trying to rough us up because they're starting to sniff that that's the only way you
01:40can bring tatum and brown down you have to play through it at this point in the season unless you
01:45are seriously seriously hurt it was not a good look last night to see him cheerleading on the bench
01:49yeah i mean and it seems like and this is probably curtis will point out that it's probably ratings
01:56related but they are they seem like they're letting them play a little bit when it comes to being
02:01physical well they always do in the playoffs yeah don't you feel like that there's nothing tatum can
02:06do to satiate fans correct he's on the sideline if he's pouting and he's not cheering it's why is he
02:12piss why is he puss face right there like the guy if it's the opposite kyle i think you're trying to
02:20do something to solidify the start of a dynasty right you need tatum healthy against teams that
02:24can beat you and i don't want him to further hurt himself like i i understand it's not a strain so
02:29it wouldn't lead to something more like that it's a bone bruise but if you're feeling pain and a
02:33certain type of your body the rest of your body is thrown off for it i don't want to see jason tatum
02:37out there just to be out there when he when he's not feeling 100 and then him risk injuring something
02:42else because he's overcompensating oh he's just not shooting well right they might have said to him
02:47you know hey how's it feel and he's like yeah i could probably play through and push through it and
02:52they might have said to him like jt there's no need to we'll beat this team with without you let's
02:59get you to the point where you don't have to push through the pain where the pain is not an issue
03:04at all and it won't affect your shooting it won't affect how you play because it is his shooting
03:09hand and so yeah i mean if as the the caller was suggesting that it's going to be it's going to be
03:16overly physical this series and they figured out that you need to be physical with the celtics like
03:20jason tatum is not the guy that you need to respond to that anyway i mean you got it from
03:26you got i felt like you got a lot of it from al horford last night he had the uh with the people's
03:32elbow to uh carter's face last night like uh you know i i want in game three i want tatum to sit in
03:37the crowd and root for the magic i think that would be a good move i mean honest to god he's
03:43rooting for his team if you have a bruise on your hand you can still cheer yeah i did love his outfit
03:49too to be honest well thank you that was nice that like sweater short sleeve sweater nice yeah here's
03:56a four one three text we're back to this topic but it's a bone bruise for god's sake it's kind of
04:02pathetic that he sat last night i don't understand the taping of the bone bruise like i don't know
04:06what that did for him but i mean a bone bruise is still painful we've seen jalen brown dealing with
04:11it all for the last well maybe it's maybe to move it you know you want to keep it like it's like the
04:15neck brace in court yeah well you don't want to move it i've heard my wrist you move the game to
04:19chappaquiddick for a bone bruise yeah but i've i've done that before it's like you want to kind
04:24of like keep it straight why the best way you can because you don't want it you want it to heal up so
04:30he's probably doing a lot of icing and he's probably doing some treatment stuff movement isn't going to
04:35make it like heal no but it will it'll help with the pain keeping it straight uh rhode island text on
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04:49would kobe have sat last night um i i don't know that's his guy all right i don't i mean if it was
04:59i have no clue but what if he plays and he goes out there and it's bothering him and he doesn't play
05:06well what are they going to say they're not going to be like oh jason tatum's a warrior they're going
05:11to be like oh he stinks why he you know why would you even play him or he's horrible he's awful in the
05:18postseason yeah exactly so what uh text for you wiggy why do you continue to baby a professional
05:24athlete like jason tatum uh it is a bone bruise he didn't break his back yeah but i didn't want um
05:31i didn't want jaylen brown playing if if you can beat a team and and your guys hurt i didn't want to
05:40play the same way i didn't want patrice bergeron playing in a meaningless game at the end of the
05:47season because you could run into risking we need you more in the playoffs than we do so like tatum we
05:54need you more in round two the eastern conference finals or the nba finals playing in a meaningless
06:01series where you know your team is far superior and they can win without you just to go out there and
06:08be like oh you can gut it out for what uh side note on over emphasizing injury have you caught up on
06:18celtic city yet no i haven't caught up because i was watching um the last of us i didn't realize that
06:24paul pierce uh when he came out well and he had created the bandage around his face to talk to media
06:31that that pissed doc rivers off i didn't realize until paul pierce talked about that yes that doc did not
06:37doc wasn't down with that curtis i i just want to go back to just sort of what the the kobe bryant
06:43won kobe bryant missed game three of the nba finals with an ankle injury he came back in game four he left
06:50game too early so the fact that this was his first game missed in the playoffs and it's this topic is
06:56so maddening and it's being fueled by the head coach and he and they brought it up yesterday like
07:01they brought they brought up the last time oh so many times jason tatum didn't play they brought
07:08up the starting lineup and you were like wow it was like 2017 it was like jay crowder kelly olenic
07:14marty conlin it was just so i don't i think we were doing it with jalen brown why wouldn't we do it
07:20with jason tatum why wouldn't we not say okay if you don't need him yeah why you don't need i you don't
07:27you didn't need him and i'm guessing you're not going to need him in the series i just so then
07:32what's the why would you play him i think some people believe that he was pissed that joe missoula
07:40dared to scream get up and that that was the story after that game so therefore there are some people
07:47who think that he felt the need to sit last night as opposed to playing to prove a point uh when with
07:54regard to the injury that that's what that's what i hear you only hear it from crazy fans yeah you
08:01don't hear that from any nba analysts like there's no other people if this is just like some crazy
08:08conspiracy that fans at least curtis i'll give him credit on his conspiracy at the nba like maybe
08:17doing that and you could say like okay i could see right other nba analysts saying the same thing
08:24that curtis is saying you see the text messages right it's not a made-up thing yeah but it's from
08:29it's from there's a 413 text it says he didn't sit last night because of a bone bruise he sat because
08:35of an ego bruise didn't curtis say arkhan started it that is true so like i mean these people are
08:42listening and that that you know it spreads like wildfire and if people don't like jason tatum
08:46they're never going to like jason tatum that's the bottom line but it's not like but it's not
08:50people it's not charles barkley saying it it's not stephen a smith saying it's not kendrick perkins
08:56shaquille o'neal it's like it's like johnny smith in his mother's basement going ow jason but that's
09:03what it is leave johnny out of this but johnny smith is the one who's saying it if johnny pays the
09:11salary wicks johnny does johnny's up there in the 300s yeah i'm not talking we're not talking
09:17about paying a salary but we're talking about the whole tatum sat out because he didn't like
09:24joe missoula yelling at him getting up that's not tatum's personality to be like the kid who's like
09:30oh i'm gonna take my ball and go home okay joe so what does that do for tatum you don't think joe's
09:35gonna go hey guess what jason hey you didn't hurt us because we won without you yeah wiggy
09:41uh text for you from new hampshire two road shows in new hampshire this road show season
09:46yeah we'll be at bernie's and then at the uh and then at the dive the winnisapaki
09:52like lake winniposaki yeah you got it the second time uh lake winniposaki on july 3rd at the dive
10:02is setting itself up to be an absolute but bonanza of an event it's gonna be a banger full i i keep
10:11hearing from people who are they've they're already they're planning to get the boat over there at like
10:153 a.m yeah so they have a spot right there at the dive night before two i hear a lot of people
10:21talking about the naswa yeah that place is great uh all right anyway where was i 603 texts i know
10:29what wiki's gonna say that night hey all right good to see you okay wiki's arrivals are perfect
10:36he finds his way to a nice spot gets the good food oh here it is problem is wiki now every team is
10:41gonna do this even more to him and are we just gonna sit him every time he falls no i mean he's
10:46fell before and he just landed on it wrong clearly it's unbelievable people saying we're gonna sit
10:51him every time he falls 2017 was the last time that we didn't see him in the post right for a game
10:55yeah so i it's but it's what i said it's johnny smith in his basement who's pushing the narrative
11:01and it's the if there were other nba that way 413 text not in the basement working my butt off
11:08listening to you all right so working at the cubicle wherever you're working who's coming up with
11:12saying oh this is why why aren't they saying that about jimmy butler he fell why isn't he gonna
11:19why didn't he go back in the game he like he what he lost a hip no he landed on his butt
11:25he's got hip displacement or something he landed on his butt why like so it's just it's
11:33did we play the missoula again because i think we only played it once where he was talking about
11:37porzingis talking about porzingis that to you curtis says that there's ongoing beef that was
11:43like the capital grill spicy margarita okay go ahead jones the second time in like two or three
11:49weeks he's been cut and needed stitches i mean you're an us you have usc guy like you got to
11:55admire just kind of him just going back and getting stitched and coming back out i mean that's something
11:59that's got to kind of you know touch you a little bit yeah i mean i like his overall just approach i
12:03think he has an ability an innate ability to uh take things very serious and at the same time
12:08uh you know have great perspective and you know you see how he i think he can control his environment
12:12really well with how he handles the crowd and how he handles the physicality of it and
12:16he can maintain his kind of his poise and uh he just has a great way about him and uh i think that
12:22that helps us and like yeah i do i love watching him uh i like watching him bleed on the court i think
12:28it's important uh and then you know he comes back in and does his job so uh i do like that about
12:34he might as well just said he's a guy i don't have to yell get up to in order for him to get up like
12:40you might as well just said that i like i don't my ears are built differently than that because i didn't
12:44get any of that what you're hearing like missoula's giving all the praise to i mean poor zingas but
12:51basically doing it because he's hoping tatum hears it and to say like how soft tatum is well no i mean
12:57in the twitch chat a suggestion that that's full mouth hug like that's he's going out of his way
13:03to mouth hug well he brought up the other time that happened in a couple weeks before he just
13:07says he has a great energy it's just interesting timing when a big narrative is the fact that he
13:11was yelling at tater to get up i love watching him bleed on the court and get back in there
13:15yeah my ears are built different this is john from gardner hey john hey good morning good folks
13:22hey wiggy this is johnny in the kitchen okay um generally speaking if you look at the we'll pick
13:28on the nba instead of all the but generally speaking it used to be kind of a pride thing
13:33i'm a man man i'm going to play through it i'm going to get up when i get knocked down
13:37i'm not going to act like you know when i get a fingernail scratched across my cheek i'm not going
13:41to go down like i was shot a guy hurts his wrist and he's writhing on the ground you know maybe he
13:46could stand up and writhe standing up the point is it used to be a point of pride to play 82 games
13:53now it's status to get games off that's a status thing and these guys in the nba writhing on the
14:01floor all the time it's it's a it's a i mean come on how many how many of us have played in rec leagues
14:06or open gyms and banged our ankle up turned our ankle and you know shake it off finish the game and
14:13go to work the next day yeah but there's a different john you in the rec you in the rec
14:16league you get what six inches off the ground where tatum's literally six not in my 20s wiggy
14:22no even in your 20s all right i give you eight inches but when the thing i would look at and this
14:28is what i would say john is when you look at tatum he don't miss a lot of games during the regular
14:33season he's not one of those guys that is into the load management he plays the majority of the
14:39the games he doesn't play all 82 but i'd have to go back in he played 72 this year all right
14:46played 72 games this year oh he's pretty consistent when it comes yeah and he hasn't missed a lot of
14:51games and the the whole the soft narrative thing i think it's just we generally do that because we
14:58grew up on a different type of basketball the same way fans back in the day did it with us yeah well i
15:06mean listen you watch i hate to keep going back to it but you watch celtic city and kevin mikhail
15:11basically tells you that his career ended early because he he wanted to win the title so he played
15:19through a busted foot right my childhood was watching larry bird lie on the sideline with back
15:25spasms yeah he couldn't even speaking of standing up he couldn't sit on the bench okay and this celtics
15:30team would beat the doors off that celtics team how dare you far more talented than the nba players
15:37today are so much faster i loved how you set that up too because greg thought you were going to be on
15:42his side and then you just switched are are you referring to the greatest nba team ever assembled
15:49the 1986 boston this team would beat that team in six games or less oh my lord without a doubt how
15:57dare kevin mikhail resembles my mailman and not carl malone it would definitely be interesting
16:04it's very i i mean oh my god i i'm i'm gonna lean towards the 86 team i would lean towards that
16:12like the first time the kevin mikhail or chief boxed somebody out into the the seats that are
16:20now there that weren't there at the front row that this team would but when are we playing
16:25as soon as derrick white sticks three threes in their eyes like who is this guy i mean it's not
16:30even close when are we playing when are we playing this game see there's a difference if we're playing
16:34in 86 you thought you meant early in the afternoon no no if you're playing in 86 you can get away with
16:39it but if you're playing in 2025 kevin mikhail is going to be sitting on the bench with four fouls
16:43in the first quarter so it's it's you know it's a right because he was clotheslining somebody yeah
16:49you can't do that in today's nba i'm sorry to tell you but if it was physical the guys on this team
16:53would beat the bag out of those guys look at how small they are look at the actual size and
16:58measurables of the celtics versus the celtics in the 80s pretty i mean they're pretty the celtics in
17:03the 80s look like they're at a deadhead show well i mean the chief was seven feet tall mikhail was
17:07actually were at that head show i i did this game on shroom mikhail was almost seven feet tall
17:14wait now you're coming out the great bill walter no god rest his soul but you know bird was six eight
17:20curtis i gotta tell you until you've been to a dead show you haven't been to a concert
17:25uh cherry garcia it might be you you know i think it would be more about the bench though right because
17:32you'd have pete pritch coming off the bench versus who was coming off the bench in the 80s
17:38that's a shot at jerry c's thing yeah so it'd be like pete pritch al hoffin great kite yeah great
17:45kite i mean come on what's wrong with you yeah i would still lean i always lean bird anyways but
17:54all right courtesy who knows they might win though would you know that they would beat them look at
17:59the way the athleticism is shifted in the nba it's not even close yeah but the skill was better back
18:04then oh you mean like the george miken drill yeah yeah like you know i think that that you know as
18:09far as the the post play but it would i guess the post play if you play in 2025 rules the celtics
18:16would be hocking up a bunch of threes larry larry would spend one minute trash talking half of
18:21these guys and they go into the fetal
18:22you