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The Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster Pat McFadden has claimed that Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has "not changed his position" on the legal definition of a woman, despite his contradictory remarks in light of the Supreme Court ruling.Speaking on the Camilla Tominey Show, McFadden directly addressed the question of whether the PM had altered his view on GB News.FULL STORY HERE.
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00:00OK, we interviewed Kemi Badenock, the Conservative leader, earlier on the show, and she said Keir Starmer was a liar because he had previously said that women can have a penis or at least some women.
00:11I think 0.1 percent of women could have a penis. And now he seems to be saying that, oh, no, he always agreed with the Supreme Court that trans women aren't women.
00:21He's fibbing, isn't he?
00:22No, that's not the case. Look, we welcome the court judgment that came out last week.
00:33And there's been some new guidance from the EHRC as well to authorities and how they should implement this.
00:42And, you know, we'll take that forward now that the guidance has been published.
00:46But he once said that trans women were women and he once suggested that one in a thousand women can have a penis.
00:55So he wasn't aligned with the Supreme Court judgment at all, was he?
00:59Why is he pretending that he said something different to what he said? It's just a lie.
01:05All the way through this, look, all the way through this, he's tried to treat people with dignity and respect.
01:12And we've still got to do that in this debate and in responding to the judgment.
01:18That's what he's tried to do. That's what he said at Prime Minister's questions the other day.
01:23And that's what we've all got to do here. We've got some clarity from the court, which is welcome.
01:28And we've got some new guidance, which will have to be implemented now in the fields of sport and all sorts of other areas.
01:35All right. In the spirit of treating everyone with dignity and respect, why won't he apologise to his former Labour colleague, the MP for Canterbury, Rosie Duffield?
01:49Well, look, I think Rosie left the Labour Party for a number of reasons.
01:55Well, she was bullied out of the party because of her transgender views.
01:59That's what she says. That's why she left the party.
02:02She was gender critical. She got a load of problems from the whips and others.
02:07She couldn't get a conversation with Keir Starmer. She felt forced out.
02:12And now, quite rightly, she's been vindicated by the Supreme Court and is asking why on earth the Prime Minister,
02:17if he wants to respect everyone and give them dignity, she hasn't received a fulsome apology.
02:23I mean, when I read her piece in the Times, I think it was yesterday, I think she said she didn't, she wouldn't be interested in it and that she wouldn't find it meaningful.
02:37And her letter of resignation, I was sorry to see her go, but her letter of resignation outlined a number of different policy dissatisfactions.
02:46This may have been one, but it wasn't the only one.
02:51And so I think she left for a number of reasons.
02:54And, you know, when we stood at the election last year, we said we would protect single-sex spaces.
03:00We want to do that.
03:02That protection for single-sex spaces was in our own Labour Equality Act from back in 2010.
03:07And that's what we'll do going forward.

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