In this explosive interview, former DGP Mr. Kumar speaks out on the chilling Pahalgam terror attack that targeted Hindu pilgrims. With decades of experience in insurgency-hit regions, he weighs in on the role of local support, lapses in intelligence, and the ideological echoes of 1990. Kumar also dissects India’s fierce response under PM Modi—from the suspension of the Indus Waters Treaty to demolitions of terror-linked homes.
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00:00Hello and welcome. You are watching this special broadcast on OneIndia. My name is Pankaj Mishra.
00:24As the clock ticks away, India is inching towards yet another decisive decision, be it diplomatic, be it strategic or military.
00:35And as we speak, a lot is going on. The stopping of the Indus water, the revocation of the diplomatic visas and cancellation of visas of the Pakistani nationals in India.
00:48Today, to discuss the matters further, to discuss the merits of the steps, we are joined by Mr. Ashok Kumar. He is the former DGP of Uttarakhand.
00:58Mr. Kumar, thank you so much for speaking to OneIndia.
01:00Thank you, Pankaj.
01:02Thank you, sir.
01:05Since you have a very deep policing experience, especially in insurgency-hit regions,
01:15how crucial is the role of local support in facilitating such targeted terror attacks like the one we saw in Pahalgam?
01:25See, local support is always important.
01:29Local support is always important because when you have to do work on ground, when you have to operate on ground,
01:37whether it be security forces or it be terrorist side,
01:40you need to do reiki of the local area so that you know how to enter and how to exit and where to stay, etc.
01:51Therefore, local support is always critical or crucial, you can say.
01:55And certainly there has to be some local element.
01:59Because you have to operate in an area, how will you approach that area?
02:03You have to do detailed reiki.
02:06Detailed reiki also, then local people only know where are the police points, where are the military points,
02:11where are other things, where are CCTV cameras, all these things so that you don't come into this thing.
02:17And similarly, when you exit, after the incident, you have to exit also.
02:23Otherwise, you will fall into an encounter with security forces.
02:28So, for all these elements, the local people will always be a big help.
02:32Right.
02:33So, that's why you have to do a wrong opinion in Kashmir, which is a bad opinion in Kashmir.
02:48One more thing, Mr. Kumar, you have to do a lot of opinion in Kashmir.
02:53You have to do a lot of opinion in Kashmir, which is a bad opinion in Kashmir.
03:23Negative element, trustee, is a bad opinion in Kashmir.
03:26So, radicalized.
03:28So, that's why we have to do a lot of opinion in Kashmir.
03:31I understand.
03:32Absolutely.
03:32So, sir, I have to ask you, my second question is, what do you say, in your experience,
03:37on your experience, that our internal security apparatus, which is today's, are we equipped enough
03:45to actually preempt such high casualty attacks with intelligence inputs?
03:50What are we currently in this situation?
03:52The internal security arrangement, certainly, in the past 10 years, was very strong.
03:58Now, talk about nationalism.
03:59It was in 2010, when the Prime Minister said that it was the biggest internal security
04:05problem.
04:06Yes, absolutely.
04:06But, you know, it's one-tenth, you know, it's one-tenth, you know, it's one-tenth
04:08point.
04:09Almost, it's been termed in Kashmir.
04:11Yes.
04:12So, it's been the first-tenth, you know, the first-tenth, you know, the first-tenth,
04:25If you kill a man, someone is attacked, when he kills a man, he is a bad battle.
04:31So, if you try to kill a man from 100% or control it will be easy.
04:39When he gets to kill a man, so he can kill a man from his body.
04:46foreign
04:58foreign
05:07foreign
05:16No, no, no, no, no, no.
05:46Got it.
05:51It is not so easy.
05:53And maybe this way, very honestly and very candidly, the government has also said that
05:59you can say it or say it as a human, that you can say it in every place, and as you
06:05said, it is understood.
06:06Sir, we heard him giving clear warning both in English and Hindi, not just to the Pakistani
06:15handlers and the terrorists, but also to the world.
06:17The message was loud and clear, that we will change and take an unimaginable skill.
06:22In this, what a treaty is closed, has diplomatic expulsions.
06:28In all these concerns, sir, you think that this will give long-term impact on Pakistan-sponsored
06:34terrorism, and dismantle that infrastructure, or the people who say that we need a decisive
06:43attack, what do you need to do, what do you need to do, what do you need to do?
06:47Yeah.
06:48Yeah.
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07:00Yeah.
07:01Yeah.
07:02Yeah.
07:03Yeah.
07:04Yeah.
07:05Yeah.
07:06Yeah.
07:07depending on
07:11Hey,
07:12Oh,
07:12Hey
07:12Yeah.
07:15ın
07:16I don't know what I'm going to do I'm going to do it I'm going to do it I'm going to do it
07:31India stand on the day.
07:35We have the first stand on the day.
07:37We have the first stand on the day.
07:39If the truth is done, we can do it.
07:43We can make everything.
07:45We have not made all of this.
07:48We have suspended the last step.
07:50This is a strong signal, strong message.
07:52We are in Pakistan now.
07:54We have to raise the international hue and cry.
07:57But in the white language.
08:01This is one of the most important things in the long term.
08:31This is one of the most important things in the long term.
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09:27This is one of the most important things in the long term.
09:29This is one of the most important things in the long term.
09:31This is one of the most important things in the long term.
09:33We are ready to take hard steps.
09:35so that the trial
09:37doesn't look like
09:38others have a deterrence
09:40I have one last question
09:43I know that you have a very strong question
09:45this question
09:46before my mind
09:48this question comes out
09:50that we can see this aspect
09:51we can see this aspect
09:53or we can see it
09:56that we can see it
09:56that we can see it
09:57that there were some
09:59eyewitnesses who lost their love
10:02once they said that
10:03their families
10:05were identified as Hindus
10:07and then they were killed
10:09this is a targeted nature of attack
10:11singling out Hindus
10:13you think that the 1990s
10:16the trauma of Kashmir Pandit
10:18was that attempt to go back
10:19and this is the ideological extremism
10:23is that
10:24if Bhairat is to fight
10:25and fight for it
10:28political, policy-wise
10:31strategy can be done
10:33look, it doesn't look like
10:35this is clear
10:36this is a 100% targeted attack
10:38which is the IACI
10:40is the motor
10:42to bleed India through 1000 cuts
10:44IACI
10:453-4 years
10:46frustrated
10:47308
10:48IACI
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10:50and the
10:51country
10:51and the
10:52country
10:53it was a
10:54peaceful
10:55and the
10:56and the
10:57and the
10:58and the
10:59and the
11:00and the
11:01IACI
11:01kashmir peaceful or kashmir disturbed, which all the country is divided, even the communalism
11:09is divided, because the country is divided, this is a clear-cut message, no doubt. It's
11:18a targeted killing, which is planned, which the country is divided, the message internationally
11:25and the country is divided.
11:55I think that Pakistan is a time when Osama bin Ladal went to America's open, that Pakistan
12:05was a big number one country.
12:08So, they hit sanctions.
12:11They hit the storm.
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