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00:00Welcome to the Parade Interview, shaky cam may occur.
00:08It's truly speaking to your directorial style that you're really just bringing all the cinema
00:11verite into this interview. Listen, I gotta tell you when I see a center punch zoom, I've never
00:16been more bored. You know, especially if it's like right on access and the sound is just so,
00:21I'm like, well, this isn't something that really is an art form that interests me.
00:26We invented it during a pandemic. That's true, that's true. Well,
00:29let's let's maybe we'll liven up the conversation to perhaps make up for the
00:32stationary camera. Isn't that more fun? Well, I gotta start by wishing you a happy belated birthday.
00:39I know that, you know, I think I'm just gonna call it at about, I don't know, I know it's not old
00:45Hollywood, but I can certainly say like, hey, you know, yeah, 39 is nuts or something. Or I could
00:53go yell at me like, you know, ever since I turned 7,000, life really, really changed for me. I don't
00:59know that I need this sort of middle portion. You know, you never hear like, mid-age bonanza,
01:06you hear like middle-aged crisis. I'd like to sidestep that.
01:10Well, let's talk about Poker Face here. Once you got through a first season and got the audience
01:17reception behind it so positively so, did that change the way that you looked at and prepared
01:23for and worked on season two? It's very moving when people like your stuff. It's always surprising.
01:29This was obviously so interesting in that, you know, we really built a whole network with Peacock.
01:34So it was kind of like a, we really all took a chance, I guess, on each other or something. And
01:40it really paid off. So it was very exciting, I guess, to watch them be so excited. And I think
01:46we did things like we broke like Nielsen's ratings. I didn't even know about Nielsen's ratings. I've
01:50been on Netflix for so long. Yeah, it's really fun. It's really fun being in, you know, hits. I
01:55understand why people like Spielberg like enjoy it or something or, you know, not to equate the two,
01:59but just Michael Bay or something.
02:01What was so interesting about Poker Face is to your point, widespread, you went to so many
02:05different locations, so many different tones. And then there was this through line of obviously
02:09your character and we get some drips and drabs of her backstory, right?
02:12I mean, I think that the primary thing for Ryan and I was to not really have it be about,
02:17you know, this like character study so much as like a fun hangout show. So, you know, like,
02:21you end up learning so much more. I think mostly what I respond to about that is also this idea of
02:26playing male roles in a way. Like, it's a very female sort of trope thing that you've got to know,
02:33like, you know, how she's doing romantically and professionally. And is she good at her job?
02:39And like, you know, is she likable or something? Poker Face is so beautiful because it's, you know,
02:44it's like an adult concept of like, we lose interest in ourselves and gain interest in our
02:47fellows in a way, which is she like, she's sort of on the case of anybody but herself,
02:51which in some level you could say is, you know, whatever an Instagram meme would give you a
02:57psychological condition to answer that. I don't think that Charlie is somebody who's like avoiding
03:02the truth of herself by being on the road. I don't think it's that at all. Like, I think it's
03:06literally that like so many male characters we've seen historically, she's somebody that's like,
03:12actually up to what she's up to. She's, you know, taking a ride across America. She's on the run
03:17from the law. It was her best friend that got her in that trouble. And now she's back for a season
03:21two. And is Parade a smoking magazine or sort of a non-smoking? You could do whatever makes you feel
03:26most comfortable. I've tried really hard to quit smoking. And I then was vaping a lot. And I was
03:33vaping at an amount that I thought was disturbing. I started vaping a certain kind of no-fangled thing
03:38that only a teenager should have. It really lit up in places. It was nauseating. I was concerned.
03:45Now I think I'm going to have to quit smoking and vaping. I think I'm going to have to go whole
03:51hog. I don't think vaping is very healthy. And I know smoking is not.
03:56Has being on PokerFace either made you a better liar or has made you a better lie detector?
04:02Lie detector. Because I definitely was already wired for that. But I didn't know
04:10that it was legal. And then now it's like a trendy superpower. So I can do it a lot.
04:16Let's look back a little bit because, you know, recently we celebrated the 25-year anniversary of
04:21But I'm a Cheerleader. Talk to me about how you look back on it.
04:25Fondly with great love and affection. So I just, I love that film so much. And I'm so happy that it
04:31means something to people. Like But I'm a Cheerleader sort of had this ability to tell young kids that it
04:36was okay to be themselves. And there's nothing I believe in more than, you know, equality and human
04:41rights. For me, the idea that that would like unveil even, you know, with some tiny pocket of shame
04:47for any real person is, you know, at the core of why I bothered doing any of this.