Dave Navarro is hyped to play the MMRBQ 2021 with Jane's Addiction. He reveals that he's obsessed with cuckoo clocks and that Hugh Hefner signed off on one of his tattoos.
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00:00We've been mentioning all morning long, tickets for the MMRBQ go on sale right now.
00:06It is exactly 10 a.m.
00:07Yeah.
00:08You can get your tickets.
00:09The lawn seats start at just $25, and we want you to get on board because we want you to be there for all of the bands and all the activities that are taking place.
00:18We're going to have Aaron Jones, who we just played, Dorothy, Mammoth, Wolfgang Van Halen's band, Mammoth, you'll be there.
00:24Dirty Honey, Cheap Trick, The Offspring, and the band that this gentleman is in.
00:30Who is joining us right now?
00:31We're so excited to have Jane's Addiction on the bill.
00:36Yeah.
00:36Like I said, I've seen them before.
00:38I saw them at the Spectrum ages ago.
00:40Amazing, right?
00:41Blew me out of the water.
00:42One of my favorite shows in that building of all time.
00:45Please welcome Mr. Dave Nabar.
00:47Hey!
00:48On our show today.
00:49Good morning, Dave.
00:50Hi, guys.
00:51Hey, thanks for coming on.
00:52Thanks for having me.
00:53That's a very nice welcome.
00:54It's our pleasure, man.
00:55Like I said, yeah, I've seen you guys before.
00:57I know the kind of energetic show that you bring and that, you know, you guys get the
01:03audience in on the party.
01:05You make it happen.
01:06And it's been a while since we've partied, Dave.
01:09So big expectations.
01:10It's been a while.
01:12Big expectations for me, too.
01:14I got to tell you, the other night, you know, L.A. is starting to open up and have indoor
01:18eating and dining and things like that.
01:20And I went to a restaurant the other night and it was overwhelming.
01:25Just people and noise and things going on and plates being dropped.
01:30And then I thought forward to our show coming up in September.
01:33I was like, man, I'm not even prepared to be in a restaurant.
01:39But you know what I mean?
01:40Like, what is it going to be like walking out on a festival audience with you guys?
01:44But I'm excited to do it, man.
01:46It's been a long time, so we're pretty psyched.
01:49The way it's progressing is that so the show is, you know, it's at the end of September.
01:54So, again, everyone's sort of feeling their way.
01:56It's like the cobwebs are lifting and the doors are opening and everyone's looking above
02:00ground.
02:00And by that time, I think we're going to be in a nice swing of things.
02:03But I can't think of a better scenario, especially since it'll be a little bit cooler in September.
02:08And, you know, the roster's great.
02:11And Preston's seen you guys a number of times.
02:13And I've always wanted to see Jane's Addiction.
02:16And this is, people are freaking out.
02:19Oh, that's great.
02:19Thank you for that.
02:20Yeah.
02:20I'm also super excited to see Wolfgang of bands.
02:23Yes.
02:24Yeah.
02:24We've been talking quite a bit about that, Dave.
02:26And I want to get your take on this because the music that we've heard so far, very impressive.
02:32I, you know, he had a lot to live up to.
02:34And that's another thing.
02:34And I'm, I'm, I'm hoping for the best because not only is he a young musician trying to make
02:40his way, but I, I need somebody to carry on that, Eddie, um, um, uh, legacy legacy.
02:48Yeah.
02:49Yeah.
02:49And that's gotta be a tremendous amount of pressure on him.
02:51I assume.
02:52I'm sure he's gladly going to take this on, but, um, you know, it's gotta be a weird position
02:57to be in.
02:59Yeah.
02:59I would imagine the best thing for him is to acknowledge that and be aware of it, but
03:04to just do his own thing, man, he's his own human being.
03:07And like, he's got his direction musically.
03:10And from what I've seen, it's, it is very different than Van Halen.
03:13It's a little bit more, uh, I don't know, more modern rock, I suppose.
03:17Yeah.
03:18But, you know, it's, it's, he's, he's fantastic.
03:21And, and, you know, I want to see him.
03:24I want to check out the band and I'm going to do everything in my power.
03:28To not tell him how much your dad.
03:33It's hard though, right?
03:35It's going to be impossible, but you know, you know how hard that's going to be to not
03:39do, but, um, but, uh, yeah, I mean, I just, I, I hope the best for him.
03:44And I, and, and I'm, I, I typically don't get to, uh, when we do these festival shows,
03:50I typically don't get to them early, but I'm definitely going to come down and check
03:54out Wolfie and, and, uh, and I'll probably check out cheap trick too.
03:57Cause Xander's a friend and I played with him a bunch of times.
04:00And a weird side note for me is that I think the first concert I ever went to was cheap
04:07trick opening up for kiss.
04:09Wow.
04:09Oh my God.
04:10Yeah.
04:11Yeah.
04:11Like in the seventies.
04:13Yeah.
04:13And so, and so, uh, to be on the same bill with them as cheap trick and as Jane's addiction
04:18is a pretty big deal for me, just in terms of like, you know, having a little personal,
04:23uh, clash with my own history, I suppose.
04:26Well, Dave, I have to tell you, I had my upper thigh felt at a backyard, uh, a barbecue to
04:32a cheap trick song in the seventies.
04:34So yes, I don't know that we can, I don't know that we can top that experience.
04:39I mean, that was good.
04:43At least you had that.
04:44I wanted to ask, you know, with, with the length of time it's been since, uh, musicians
04:49have, have had a chance to do live shows.
04:51I mean, you can, you can pick up the guitar and you can play it and you can keep your chops
04:55going, uh, you know, just doing a little rehearsing here and there and writing, whatever
04:59you may be doing.
05:00But is there a difference between, um, being, uh, you know, keeping the instrument fresh,
05:05uh, and, and being on stage or do you have to get your stage legs together?
05:10Essentially is what I'm asking.
05:11I mean, I think, I don't know, we've been doing it for so long and, you know, believe
05:16it or not, Jane's addiction has historically taken years off years of hiatuses.
05:23And so, yeah, we just coming out of COVID and yeah, it's been a while since we've been
05:27on stage, but we are ironically very used to getting back together after years of not
05:33doing it.
05:34So hopefully we are experienced in trying to make it look seamless, uh, once we get
05:40back on the stage.
05:41But, um, usually when the first downbeat happens and Perry gets into his trip, it's
05:49pretty easy to get lost in that environment and just kind of go back to second nature.
05:52Yeah.
05:53You know, fortunately, a lot of these songs have been with us for 30 years, you know,
05:57so it should be pretty, pretty seamless.
06:00You know, I'm sorry to interrupt.
06:02Uh, Dave Grohl has this, um, special coming out about, uh, the van life, uh, uh, that, that,
06:08uh, evolutionary period of a band.
06:10Um, yeah.
06:11Was that, was that you guys, was that Jane's were you guys doing that?
06:14Okay.
06:14Oh yeah.
06:15We, uh, our first tour was in a van with the entire band and the one crew member that
06:20we had and all of our gear and a U-Haul behind us and like literally taking turns driving and
06:26just freezing and sick and hating each other and in close quarters.
06:32And when you do get to a motel, you all share a room.
06:36Like it was, it was, you know, the early days were rough stuff.
06:40Well, I was surprised to find out when Dave is mentioning when, when nevermind came out
06:45at this album is out, it's starting to hit.
06:49They're still in a van traveling to shows.
06:51It is, you know, this is a groundbreaking record.
06:54This is huge.
06:54This is rock and roll history right here.
06:56And they're still driving around a van when, when nothing shocking, were you guys still doing
07:00the van thing when that came out?
07:03We may, I know that we had a couple of tears.
07:05So we went from, we went from a van to what we thought was a great idea, which was a Winnebago.
07:11Okay.
07:12So it wasn't quite a bus, it was a Winnebago, literally like a mobile home.
07:17And, um, uh, we broke out a window, one of the side windows got shattered somehow.
07:24So we were literally touring around the East coast in the dead of winter with just freezing
07:31cold, 75 mile an hour wind, just wafting through the Winnebago.
07:36Did you try to tape up like a trash bag or something?
07:38No, you try, you try, you try everything.
07:41And then finally, at some point you were like, fuck it, we'll deal with it.
07:44And we, and we just, um, yeah, we just sat there and like dealt with it.
07:49But I think that, you know, I think there's something to be said about those old days that
07:54like, we really, I don't, I don't know that, um, we would be the same band without them.
08:00You know, we really had to, I mean, there were gigs.
08:02We were coming, we were putting them in vans and we'd pull up to the club and we would load
08:07out and load in our own gear ourselves.
08:10So it would be, it would be like a Jane's addiction show.
08:14Good night.
08:15And then start winding up cables and putting guitars in cases and trying to push your amp
08:20off the stage and get ready for the next band.
08:22I was, I really appreciate, I really appreciate having had those experiences as much as I would
08:28never want to do them again.
08:30Yeah.
08:30I think they really, they really taught us how to be a band.
08:33I was in, in my twenties.
08:34I was a band guy.
08:35I'm a drummer.
08:36And so just a couple of years, last year, I was like, I got together with some guys who
08:40created a cover band and we went out and we played some gigs.
08:43And I tell you what, Dave, on that first night, that first night at three o'clock in the
08:50morning, when we're putting the last bit of crap back into the, into the van, I'm like,
08:54what the hell was I thinking, man?
08:56This sucks.
08:58You know, it's a little different when you're 17 and you're pushing stuff.
09:02Right now, like my lower spine cannot handle.
09:08It's just not going to happen.
09:10Dave, we're able to zoom with you right now.
09:13I'm looking over your shoulder.
09:14Is that a cuckoo clock up on the wall?
09:16And if so, uh, what's the story behind that?
09:18Actually, there's probably 12 of them in this house.
09:23I collect them.
09:24Um, it's just, it's just a weird thing.
09:26And, you know, cuckoo clocks, when I was a kid, that was like in cartoons, that was the
09:31symbol of crazy.
09:31Yeah.
09:32Like if someone was crazy, you'd see a little cuckoo or a bird would come out.
09:35Um, and I just kind of came with this whole, uh, embracing, I do a company called dual
09:40diagnosis, which is a, it's a, it's, it's an art slash clothing company.
09:44That's, that's geared at lifting the stigma of mental health issues.
09:48Right.
09:48And, um, you know, there's a whole story behind the cuckoo.
09:53I don't know if you know about it, but if you look inside that box, it's all complicated
09:56gears and springs and coils and wires.
09:59And there's this little bird that's trapped in there.
10:01It can't fly out because it's held down by these weights.
10:05You see the weights that hang down, which, which could be, uh, you know, it's emotional
10:11baggage for instance.
10:12And so until it drops that baggage, it can't fly and reach its full potential.
10:16And it's locked in this confusing box.
10:18It's making it crazy.
10:20So yeah, I collect them.
10:22And then we also use them artistically throughout the dual diagnosis, uh, company.
10:27And, and, and, and that's spelled D that's spelled D U a L diagnosis and we dual diagnosis.com.
10:35Well, I, I never realized there were so many metaphors attached to a, to a cuckoo clock,
10:39but I, but I think, I think that I invented them, but they were, but, but that's good.
10:44I can completely see that because I'm fascinated by little mechanisms and the, and the, uh, the
10:50artistry of that stuff, animatronic things and all of that.
10:53Have you yourself ever designed a cuckoo clock?
10:55Um, I designed what I called a cuckoo clock wristwatch was when I took that clock and
11:02I duct taped it on my arm.
11:05Okay.
11:06That counts.
11:07This is a crazy watch, but, um, no, I've never, I'm not a tinkerer.
11:11Yeah.
11:12I, I, I, I love watches.
11:14I love, I love components.
11:15I love things that are, that work like that.
11:18But I mean, these things, you know, they're, they're, they're kind of, they're kind of
11:22genius and, and the implications, like the, the humorous implications that they contain
11:27are, are kind of funny and, and you just don't see them anymore.
11:30But if you look around my house, like I think there's one over there.
11:35There's, there's like, there's like a, there's one there.
11:38There's one on the other side.
11:39So there's like 15 of them in here, but the best part is that they're all set at different
11:44times.
11:45Yeah.
11:46So throughout the day, just a different bird is coming out.
11:52That's great.
11:53And it literally, it will literally drive you insane.
11:56I mean, if you're not insane already, put up five cuckoo clocks.
12:01Yeah.
12:02You know, my sister's actually obsessed with, uh, with cuckoo clocks as well, but she does
12:05not have one.
12:06Maybe that is a good gift for me to get for her.
12:08It's a, it's a great gift.
12:09And they, and they, you know, the, the, uh, they make them battery operated now, but the
12:15ones that are really special are the ones that are handmade that use the actual weight
12:20system to have the time till time.
12:22And even the pendulum has to be hung at the right length.
12:26Otherwise it's going to either tick too fast or too slow.
12:29Okay.
12:30So there's, they're very complicated things, but, uh, they are interesting to be obsessed
12:34with fatal.
12:35I completely get it.
12:37Yeah.
12:38I did not expect to be talking about the, I'm sure you're not going to expect to talk
12:42about this either.
12:42Are you wearing a Snuggie right now?
12:44No, right now I am wearing a, uh, just, it's a, it's like a hooded cape.
12:49This is like for, for, uh, outdoors, outdoors life, ceremonial, ceremonial outdoor life.
12:57And, uh, it happens exactly.
13:00It happens to be 7.
13:01I am here in LA and I'm just, I just happened to be freezing, but I will tell you this.
13:06I am not opposed to a straight up Snuggie.
13:08No, why would you be, Dave, who would, who would you say between you and you and Perry, you guys are artists to the core.
13:15Yeah.
13:15Who's, who's a little more quirky in their personality.
13:17Is it you or Perry?
13:18We both have, uh, a lot of, I guess, independent thought I would say.
13:26And, um, but I would say that, uh, you know, just being, I would say Perry, just because being a front man of a band like this and having to have, uh, that sensibility and be on every night and deliver every night.
13:41Like I get to turn around and hide behind the guitar and like get lost in my instrument, which I love, you know, cause I went and I did a solo tour in 2000 and, um, I just came to learn that I didn't love it.
13:53I didn't love leading the band. I didn't love being the lead singer. I didn't love the eyes. I didn't love the pressure and Perry can do that really well. And he, in fact, loves it. So I would say that there is a component to his personality that allows him to be that extroverted on stage and do it with authority and conviction.
14:13So I don't know if I would say he's more quirky, but I would say that, uh, he has what it takes to front a band, uh, better than better than most, I would say. And I think along with that kind of mentality, you've got, you've got to have some, you've got to have some walls down, you know, to allow yourself to be that raw in front of people.
14:36Totally. And while at the same time having certain walls up, you know, so that's, I think it's a microcosm of some kind of very strange dance that goes into being a lead singer.
14:46And, uh, you know, I, he's, as far as I'm concerned, he's one of the best front men that have been around in the past 30 years.
14:54Is it hard speaking to that point about, um, because you, you, you, uh, you know, you let a lot of you out, you know, with your love of, uh, of, uh, like, you know, the tattoos and, and artistry and then the, the, the cuckoo clocks and things are the things that are, that are part of you.
15:09Is, is it hard when you are in the public eye, the way you are in talking about Perry being more upfront and being the front man, but you are a personality or a pop culture personality.
15:18Is, is it hard to know, uh, I'm going to keep this just for me, you know, do you know what I'm saying?
15:25Where you're not always revealing stuff about you?
15:27Oh, no, no. I mean, things that I like and things that are interesting to me aren't really revealing anything.
15:33And those aren't like personal, deep personal issues that I, whether or not I like cuckoo clocks, I better keep that to myself or I feel exposed.
15:41It's too personal.
15:42I don't feel, I don't feel exposed.
15:45Yeah.
15:45Yeah. But, um, you know, I've also, I've also taken it upon myself and, uh, years ago, like I've done, I wrote a book and I put out a documentary that were about very difficult things in my life.
15:59And, and, and I think that the, the, the intention and hopefully the joy of that was to help others feel less alone that we're in similar situations, whether it's, whether it's grief or trauma or drug addiction or any of the things that I've been through.
16:14You know, it's, uh, I like to, I like to share with people that there's an alternative way, you know, and that it is possible to, to get past that stuff.
16:24And even though the, the demon of addictive behavior may be with you for your life, it's about channeling that addictive behavior into an area that can be healthy for you.
16:35Well, yeah, I, you know, I, I'm, uh, sober for nine plus years at this point.
16:39And I just know that it was important for me to, uh, see and interact with people who were living a sober life, a happy and content sober life.
16:49But then there were also other people that, you know, like musicians, Trey Anastasio, uh, being one of them, I'm, I'm a fish head.
16:56Uh, you know, he had been sober for a couple of years at that point when I saw, I'm like, okay, here's, here's somebody that's doing it.
17:00And you, uh, I was able to gain strength through them.
17:04And, and so when you do that and you're, you're outspoken about whatever struggles that you have gone through, there are people out there that, that really do, um, hold onto that and gravitate towards that.
17:14Um, yeah, I think, I think the one thing that I would say is that, you know, the company I'm running dual diagnosis is all about mental health.
17:22I put out a book that was about my drug addiction.
17:25I put out a film that was about my mom's death.
17:27Uh, and, uh, you know, it does resonate with a lot of people sometimes, you know, if they've, if they've got similar circumstances, but, you know, at the same time, I'm not a doctor.
17:39And so those people will come to me personally and say, I'm going through this and I don't know what to do.
17:45And I'm like, look, I already told you what I went through and how I dealt with it, but I can't advise, you know, like a doctor would, like, I don't know what to tell you.
17:54That's, you know, that you need to find a team of your own, but I think that, um, that's not the tough part.
18:01I think, I think, I don't really think there is a tough part to it.
18:03I think that as long as you're comfortable with who you are and what you've been through and that, you know, behaviors can change.
18:10Yeah.
18:10I mean, really, that's, that's all we're, we're doing.
18:12Like I may not be doing drugs anymore, but you know, now I'm in line at one in the morning and game stop waiting for the next thing to go.
18:22All right.
18:23Yes.
18:23Yes.
18:24That's exactly.
18:24That is the right way to think about it.
18:26We have, we all have the same doctor.
18:28He's kind of the, um, he's on TV and in, uh, here in Philadelphia and he says, I, if I have to, I will write you a prescription for a video game because, you know, because that, that's the stuff to get that joy of something that doesn't happen.
18:41You know, like you said, you're not smoking crack.
18:43You're, you know, this is something that's not going to kill you.
18:45Exactly.
18:45That you can get passionate.
18:47Like I love living through other people's passions and it excites me to revisit my own, your Google clock thing, or just the different things you talk about.
18:56Uh, you know, that, that to me is, is something that people, they sometimes seem reticent to allow themselves.
19:02Well, that's just crazy.
19:03Should I really collect that?
19:04Or is that, do it, you know, because we're, we just don't think that way a lot of times.
19:09Well, ultimately, ultimately we're all here for great, you know, however long we're here and we are ultimately going to dissolve into the universe or some, whatever happens.
19:19Right.
19:19So like, yeah, do what you love as long as it's not hurting anybody else or yourself.
19:23Like there's really, you know, that this life was given to us for us to enjoy.
19:28Yeah.
19:29And, um, and I really feel strongly about that.
19:32And, and, and, and frankly, one of the things that I enjoy about life most is being able to perform with this band and like, come out and do that with you guys is, is what is that the 25th September 25th?
19:43Correct.
19:43Yeah.
19:44That's, I'm, I'm super pumped about that, you know, and that's, you know, I wouldn't be able to do that had I stayed on the path I was on.
19:51Right.
19:51So it's all to me.
19:53It's all, uh, you know, this, I mean, I'm in the, I'm in the bonus round.
19:58Yes.
19:58You know what I mean?
19:58Yes, absolutely.
19:59I, I, I unlocked the little part of the game that allowed me to play in another room.
20:03Yes.
20:04I'm into it.
20:05Uh, Dave, we're all excited about that as well.
20:07I wanted to ask you.
20:08So every Tuesday we do a thing, it's called Tattoos Day and we give away a free tattoo every single Tuesday.
20:13And as a result, I mean, we used to do it here in the studio and as a result, we've had several contestants and winners of Ink Master in our studio, actually administering Tattoos, which is really cool.
20:23Uh, is Ink Master coming back to Paramount Plus by any chance?
20:26Do you know?
20:26You know what?
20:27I honestly don't know.
20:28I heard that they were picking it up.
20:30That was the last I heard of it.
20:32Um, the only thing that I can assume from not hearing anything is that they're rebooting it with a new cast.
20:39That's all I know.
20:40That's all you know?
20:41All right.
20:41I mean, well, I mean, I, in fact, I don't even know that because there's been very little dialogue.
20:47So I hear that Paramount Plus is going to pick it up.
20:50I guess they started a new streaming service.
20:52Yep.
20:52And, um, but I don't know, but I will tell you what's very funny about that is that Ink Master was a show that, I mean, it was on 10 years ago.
21:01I mean, it's hard to believe it was a decade ago that that started and we did 13 seasons.
21:05And then during the pandemic, uh, Paramount sold a couple of seasons to Netflix.
21:11So now it's on Netflix, but these are old episodes, but what that, what that did was that opened us up to a whole new audience that had never seen us.
21:21And, uh, I started getting messages from people who were angry at me for certain, for certain people who got sent home.
21:31So, 10 years ago, 10 years ago, right?
21:32Oh my God.
21:33You know what I mean?
21:34Like they think it's, they thought, they thought it was just now.
21:36Yeah.
21:37Fuck you for sending Josh on me.
21:39He was the one.
21:41Like, how dare you?
21:42Oh my God.
21:42Josh, I don't even know what you're talking about.
21:45That's great.
21:45But, uh, people get very, people get very passionate about that.
21:49Do you, I hope that when you give out tattoos, do you, is there one artist that you use or is there a resident artist or?
21:55Yeah.
21:56Yeah.
21:56Oh, there's a shop.
21:57Yeah.
21:57We had one shop, several artists within that shop.
21:59And, uh, there's a guy named Troy here who is, um, he's a big name in the tattoo industry in Philadelphia.
22:04Actually, he, he is, um, responsible for a lot of the tattoo conventions all across the country.
22:10Yep.
22:10Uh, so, yeah, so he has a lot of guys that, and he's also super generous.
22:14So, uh.
22:15Do they get to, do they get to decide what they are getting, or does it have to be a WMMR?
22:21No, they, they do.
22:22They have to include.
22:23On the throat.
22:25They have to include us in there somewhere.
22:28And it can even be very, very subtle.
22:30That's all that we ask.
22:31Right.
22:31That's nice.
22:32All, all the, the, the, the rabbit in the, uh, you know, the, the Playboy cover.
22:36It can be very discreet.
22:38So, yeah.
22:38Some are more subtle than those.
22:39Do you want to know something funny about this?
22:40Do you see this?
22:41Oh, yeah.
22:42That's the, uh, Playboy.
22:43Yeah.
22:44Yeah.
22:44All right.
22:44So, here's a quick story.
22:46I was, I was doing an interview with Hugh Hefner.
22:49And Hugh Hefner was talking about how the, the bunny, well, first of all, it started out,
22:54it was a stag.
22:55It was supposed to be a cartoon of a stag.
22:57Right.
22:58And the night before, the night before the release, he couldn't sleep.
23:01And he got up in the middle of the night and called the designer and said, I hate the
23:05stag.
23:05You got to come up with something else.
23:07So, they scrambled at all, at all hours of the night and landed on this bunny, which then
23:12became the most iconic thing, uh, you know, in terms of branding and he went ahead to
23:17tell me that it is probably the number one most tattooed logo of all time.
23:23The Playboy bunny.
23:24I believe it.
23:24And so, at that moment, I said, has anybody in the history of, of tattooing this bunny
23:31asked you for permission?
23:33And he said, no, actually, nobody's ever asked.
23:35And I said, well, then let me be the first.
23:39That's.
23:39Is it okay with you if I get the bunny tattooed?
23:42And he said, absolutely.
23:43So, I have the one and only Hugh Hefner sanctioned.
23:48Wow.
23:50Like, I wouldn't have gotten this otherwise.
23:52Yeah.
23:52But the fact that, you know, I was like, what do I care?
23:53I'm going to tell you.
23:54But the fact that Hugh sanctioned it and gave me the okay and it's the only one that exists
24:00that's like that was pretty special.
24:02That's awesome.
24:02That's a great story.
24:03Yeah.
24:03Yeah.
24:04Wow.
24:04That's awesome.
24:05Excellent.
24:06Dave, we're really excited.
24:08Not only that you guys are playing the show, but that you took the time to join us on the
24:12program this morning.
24:12We really appreciate it.
24:13It's a pleasure, man.
24:14I'm looking forward to being out there.
24:15And are you guys going to be at the show?
24:16Oh, yes.
24:17Oh, yes.
24:18Absolutely.
24:18I would not miss your guys' set.
24:20We'll come back and say hello, will you?
24:21Okay.
24:22For sure.
24:22Absolutely.
24:23Thank you so much, Dave.
24:24We'll see you in September.
24:25Dave Navarro.
24:25Yeah.
24:26How about it?
24:28Wow.
24:28He's awesome.
24:30Super nice guy.
24:31And I bet you he could point to every single tattoo and tell a story like that as well.
24:36But you're playing right here.
24:37I remember, Preston, when I first heard this song, I was like, what's that?
24:42Whoa.
24:42Yeah.
24:42Whoa.
24:43Yeah.
24:43Yeah.