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00:00It is 93.3 WMMR, we're backstage, and Brent Porsche and Pierre Robert, we have two members of Shinedown.
00:07Would you introduce them, Mr. Porsche?
00:08We have the lead singer, frontman, and one sexy mofo, we've got Mr. Brent Smith.
00:13We've got deuces today with the Brents.
00:17And on guitar, Mr. Michael Zachary Myers.
00:20Correct. How come I'm not handsome and good-looking or whatever the hell you said about him?
00:24You're beautiful.
00:26Yes, sorry.
00:27Also, we want to congratulate Zach on a one-month-old baby boy.
00:32Yeah, yeah.
00:33What is his name? Pierre?
00:35His name is Pierre.
00:36Yeah.
00:36No, Ezra.
00:37Pierre Myers, I think that's a nice ring to it.
00:39Ezra.
00:39This is the first time publicly he's being discussed, yeah.
00:42I'm sorry.
00:43No, you're fine.
00:43You need to violate a confidence.
00:44No, no, no.
00:45Edit this out if you like.
00:45Ezra Levi.
00:47Oh, cool.
00:48Yeah.
00:48And your other two kids?
00:49Yeah, and thank God his wife told me earlier today that this child is doing her a favor and
00:54sleeping and not being difficult, which is helpful.
00:59This one's been pretty easy, yeah.
01:01Nice.
01:01Yeah.
01:01You have three kids.
01:03Brent, you have one who's, I think he's 15?
01:05He's going to be 16 in December, yeah.
01:07Very nice.
01:08And he's six foot one.
01:09Wow.
01:10Wow.
01:11Yeah.
01:11Excellent.
01:11He's very tall.
01:12So you guys are back at the MMRBQ.
01:14You have played this for us before, and the crowd just loves you, and we're ever grateful
01:22that you have come back to join us again.
01:24But every time we've talked to you-
01:26We honestly just came back to hang out with you guys.
01:28Yeah, we did.
01:29We're going to be honest about it, man.
01:31The show's going to happen.
01:32That's why we're here.
01:32Yeah, the show's going to happen.
01:33We just wanted to hang with you guys.
01:34Right, okay.
01:35Well, we can do that too.
01:37But we've talked before about pre-show rituals.
01:41I'd love to ask this to different bands.
01:42There was a time where you'd all work out together.
01:45I don't know if that still happens.
01:46We worked out today.
01:47Worked out today.
01:48Yeah, so we got a-
01:49This tour, we have eight-
01:50I think there's eight semis, but it doesn't matter.
01:54I mean, we're fortunate enough that we have tours where we have big rigs with us and things
01:59like that, but a while ago, we just started to empty out-
02:02It's usually the audio truck, and we just call it the yard.
02:05So there's resistance bands in theirs, there's weights, there's different pads that we have
02:10that we lay down, there's a salt bike in there, and you just get in there and do it.
02:15There's heavy bags in there, and you just go after it.
02:17It's like a full-
02:17Yeah, we have a full set of pretty much everything you need.
02:20I got in there way later than normal today, and him and Eric were already in there, so-
02:24All four members together generally do this?
02:26Not usually at the same time, but all four of us are in there at some point.
02:29And then right before you take the stage, is there any little pre-show ritual you guys do?
02:33Yeah, we each have our individual thing, and then we all get together, and we have our
02:37band huddle with usually John, our security, and then Ed, our tour manager.
02:42And then we all, like, if you've ever seen us backstage before we go on stage, it looks
02:46chaotic.
02:47Basically, every band member has their own handshake with each crew person.
02:51Wow.
02:51So we play a loud song, and then we have an intro.
02:53It takes about six minutes to get through the whole thing.
02:56Nice.
02:56But it, like, I'm glad, like, when we do it in festivals and stuff, because it kind of shows
03:00our camaraderie, and other bands get to see, like, how close we all are, but, like, it's
03:04like a, it looks like the beginning of an NBA game, where everyone's just doing these
03:07wild handshakes.
03:08It's pretty great.
03:09You guys, like, scream, too, right?
03:11When you guys huddle up.
03:11Well, we do the doo-doo.
03:13The doo-doo time.
03:14We're being burnt on a part of that.
03:15Have we never talked about this all the years that we've known each other?
03:17You guys don't know about doo-doo?
03:18Yeah.
03:19No, I think we do.
03:20I don't know doo-doo.
03:21Yeah, so the short version of doo-doo time, I know what it sounds like it is, but the reality-
03:26We do that, too.
03:27Yeah, it happens usually.
03:28No, it happened years ago with a lighting director named Scott Ali, and when he would
03:35get excited, he would, like, you know, look around at everybody, and he'd clap his hands,
03:39and he would go, like, doo-doo, and he would get all excited, and he would say, doo-doo.
03:43And so him and Barry started, like, cheersing each other and screaming, doo-doo-doo, and then
03:48it just morphed into this thing where, like, it can sometimes grow to be, like, 50 people.
03:53It's a full-on tradition.
03:54The reality is that, like, everybody just gets in there.
03:56You have to do it an hour before we go on deck, and then you can either get a soda or a shot
04:02or a beer or water or whatever, and you basically just watch Barry.
04:07He counts down three, two, one, and you scream as loud as you possibly can, doo-doo-doo, until
04:12you see, like, stars.
04:13Yeah.
04:13And then you have to, like, give everybody a weird look and give them, like, a cheers.
04:16Cheers, yeah.
04:17You have five minutes to get your drink drunk and then get out, unless you're in the band,
04:21and that's doo-doo.
04:22Gotcha.
04:22Right on.
04:22There you go.
04:23So what a difference a week makes.
04:25This time last week, you guys were down in Virginia, and you were standing on some pallets
04:30in a field in Alton, part of the Blue Ridge Rock Fest.
04:35You guys did a mini set because everything got, like, rained out due to severe storms.
04:38I got to admit, out of 20 years of doing this professionally, it's probably one of my favorite days ever.
04:43My question to you guys is, like, what was the mindset, or what was, like, the precursor
04:48leading up to, hey, we need to go out to the parking lot of where everybody's still hanging
04:52out, and we need to go do what you guys eventually did?
04:55Well, before I say anything, the fact of the matter is, I mean, we don't have an affiliation
04:59with Blue Ridge.
05:00Whatever they're going to do and whatever the future of that festival is has nothing to
05:04do with us.
05:05But the fact of the matter is, is we were the headliner for that day, which I believe was
05:08the Saturday.
05:09There was weather when we got there.
05:12But the fact of the matter was, is we rolled in around 10 a.m., and earlier, about a month
05:20prior, I had found out about this young man named Oliver Anthony in Virginia.
05:26Obviously, there's a lot of people that know what's happening there.
05:28He direct messaged me, and, you know, we had a banter back and forth, gave me his number,
05:35gave him a call.
05:35I called him, actually, the day, I think we spoke the day that he went on Joe Rogan, and
05:40we were talking about that he was going to do Blue Ridge.
05:42And I said, well, what day are you going to do it?
05:43He goes, I think I'm going to do it on the Friday, but I'm going to stay the week, or
05:47the weekend.
05:48So I had talked to him, like, a day and a half, two days before we were supposed to
05:53be there.
05:53And I said, yo, man, bring your whole crew, everybody, whoever you came with.
05:58Meet us around, like, you know, 1130 that morning.
06:00He talked to our head of security, John.
06:03John got him all squared away.
06:04It was rad.
06:05He came in, he had his whole family with him and stuff, and all the dogs.
06:08Yeah, it was awesome.
06:09Really?
06:09And the whole thing was, we were going to, because he had played the day before, and I
06:14asked him, I said, come up and play Richmond, North of Richmond during our set, our headline
06:20set, and then stay up there and do Simple Man with us.
06:23And he was like, cool, man.
06:24And so he came in, and we were hoping that the rain was going to go away, which, you know,
06:28it started to do.
06:29But then they called the show at, like, 1 o'clock, and the bottom line was, we had
06:35our tour manager go out and look at the grounds.
06:39We knew that there wouldn't be a PA or anything, but we were like, look for some area where
06:43we can, like, just do, like, campfire.
06:45We just wanted to play.
06:46Yeah, we just wanted to play.
06:47So long and short of it, they went out, they took a look, because it was at a racetrack,
06:52so they found this canopy and literally, like, this kind of wooden deck stage that could,
06:57you know, hold about eight people, maybe.
07:00Tightly.
07:01A very tight eight.
07:02Yeah.
07:02And then they got a bunch of golf carts together.
07:04John, our head of security, actually put it together pretty quick with our tour manager,
07:09Ed.
07:09They came back.
07:10They were like, here's the location.
07:11We got the golf carts.
07:12The festival was actually cool about it.
07:14We didn't announce it either.
07:15I looked at Oliver and basically said, hey, man, you want to go play some songs?
07:19He was like, hell yeah, let's go.
07:20How do you tell the audience that you're going to do this so they know where to go?
07:24I think when they saw a convoy of golf carts showing up, they were like, we don't know
07:29what's going on, but something's going on.
07:31And then that Oliver Anthony cat's pretty hard to miss.
07:34He's a big boy.
07:36He's about 6'6", and ginger.
07:39You don't miss a 6'6", ginger anywhere.
07:42I think it's just him and Matt Bonner from this place.
07:44A very powerful ginger.
07:46You can't miss a big, tall, red-headed boy with a beard.
07:50It was fun, man.
07:51But the other thing, too, was, you know, I got to say this, everybody was, we probably
07:58amassed a crowd of a, I'd say there was probably 6,000 people.
08:01That's what they said, yeah, 6,000.
08:03But the thing was, too, is as we're going to it, there was no, like, hoopla or, like,
08:08look at us, look at us, look at us.
08:10And everybody was super chill.
08:12So there was a fence line, and basically I just walked the fence and, like, let everybody
08:18know, like, how do we get in to see this, and, like, just, there's one entrance over
08:21here by the gate.
08:22Everybody, like, they were running and stuff, but they were orderly.
08:26There wasn't one incident.
08:27Not one.
08:28Was it raining during this time?
08:30No, it was completely dry.
08:31But, I mean, we just got up there, and it was a moment, and that's why we do it.
08:34You know, our boys and Papa Roach came and joined us as well, and, you know, that's what
08:38it's all about.
08:39At the end of the day, it should always be about the music.
08:42That's what brings everybody together.
08:43That's a prime example right there in Living Color.
08:47The other thing I've been noticing a lot is the videos that you've been posting, and
08:53I particularly love the ones with your grandmother.
08:55Tell us about those.
08:58Man, that's just, you know, she, I think the biggest thing about that is that she gave
09:05me my work ethic growing up, and I still learn from her to this day.
09:09You know, she's going to be 92 years old in a couple weeks.
09:14And she just is a huge part of my life.
09:18So, you know, I started to, and I will go home and see her and my mom and my dad, because
09:23they all still live in the same area as when I grew up.
09:26And even if I've only got like 48 hours or a couple of days or whatever, I'll swoop in
09:32and see her and my mom and my dad and what have you.
09:34And I guess a little while back, I just started videoing her, and it was always about the
09:38granny wisdom, and people like it.
09:40So like when I'm with her, I'll just ask her, you know, it's just like a cute little
09:44thing to do.
09:45But I think that people, you know, it makes people smile.
09:47That's why I do it.
09:48I love it.
09:49I love it.
09:50I want to talk about Planet Zero.
09:52I think 14 months, 15 months, it's been out now and doing incredibly well as I think
09:56album number seven, right?
09:58From the band.
09:58And the last single, A Symptom of Being Human, there's the original mix, and then there's
10:04a slightly different mix that just came out a while ago.
10:07There's five mixes.
10:08Oh, are there?
10:09Five different mixes.
10:10Wow.
10:10There's lots of ways to listen to this song.
10:12Yeah, so there's the album version, there's the radio edit from the album version, there
10:17is the pop version, there's the piano version, and the acoustic version.
10:22Wow.
10:22Okay, so in this new day and age, like, you know, you got to have all these different
10:27versions, you know, we're going to do an ethereal version next, where it's just like
10:31white noise.
10:33And people are going to be like, that just sounds like noise.
10:35I really dig what they're doing here.
10:37I'm like, oh, it's the symptom of being human.
10:37It's just, you know, it's just static.
10:40Well, you've talked about the importance of the song and how it's about what you've gone
10:45through, what people go through in life, but the other part of it, you've said we dedicate
10:49it to our road crew that you love so much.
10:52And there was a line I read in one interview where you, Brent, said, they build these cities
10:57every night.
10:58Yep.
10:58And if you think of a stage production, the likes of which this band puts on, it is a
11:03gigantic production, a gigantic city, you know, as those who know rock and roll know,
11:09the crew gets there way before, they leave way after.
11:11First one's in, last one's out.
11:14And, but I just love that.
11:15Anything else you'd say about the song?
11:17I mean, I think more than anything, the, the song is really about the connection that
11:23we all share, which is the human condition.
11:25And you're allowed to have as many human moments as you need in your lifetime.
11:28There's no right or wrong.
11:30I think that we live in a world where I think instant gratification is right there at your
11:36fingertips if you need it.
11:37But I think also too, you don't know what somebody's going through and people have the ability
11:43to change.
11:43They have the ability to evolve there.
11:46And we're, I think that more than anything, what we wanted the song to do, because you
11:51have to remember, we wrote it in the, literally the height of the pandemic.
11:55And we knew people were afraid and frustrated and scared and concerned and angry and all
12:01these elements.
12:03And we wanted to let people know, hey, it's okay to have all these emotions.
12:08You're allowed to.
12:09That's, that's what, you know, brings us all together.
12:12But it's also our responsibility to take care of one another.
12:14And I think the simplicity of the line in the song makes a very poignant statement, which
12:21is, it's just a symptom of being human.
12:22And that's perfectly fine.
12:24It's natural.
12:25You know what I mean?
12:26You know, you want to live to fight another day.
12:28And speaking of the song, two weeks ago, you guys were on live with Kelly and Mark.
12:33Yeah.
12:33From that live where you said similar when you're up there.
12:36You guys have done a number of late night television appearances.
12:40You did a bunch of stuff with Kimmel.
12:41You've done Conan and stuff like that.
12:42I think Hollywood is over though now.
12:44I think everything in Hollywood is gone because they won't pay their writers.
12:49They will come back.
12:49So I think you're in trouble.
12:51You know, I think you're in trouble.
12:53How was it doing morning talk compared to late night talk?
12:57And I mean, like, is there a difference?
13:00It's a lot earlier, obviously.
13:02This one wasn't so bad.
13:05We did, one time we did Good Morning America and that was at like, we had to get up at like
13:084.30 in the morning.
13:10That was brutal.
13:11Brutal.
13:12But this one was like, I think they tape at like 9.30, it's 10.
13:16It wasn't that bad.
13:17Right.
13:17Okay.
13:17But yeah, we've done other ones that are real bad.
13:20You know what?
13:20I got to say this too.
13:22The late night shows that we have done, Kimmel, we've probably done the most and he's awesome.
13:27His crew's amazing.
13:28Yeah.
13:28He's probably out of all of them, you know, we've been around him more, but he is a stand-up
13:34dude.
13:36As far as like Kelly and Mark, the one thing about them is like Zach said, they didn't
13:40like make us get there at four o'clock in the morning and things like that.
13:43You can run it twice.
13:45You're good.
13:45You're good.
13:46Yeah.
13:46We did it once before when Ryan Seacrest was still working with Kelly.
13:50I will say this, like those two hosting it now together, husband and wife, they're the
13:55most jovial, sweet, like they're, they're great.
13:59They're super rad.
13:59And their showrunners are all great too.
14:02You know, they're giving you exposure.
14:03They've got the number one, I think, daytime slot.
14:07They also, I think they have the top rating.
14:08So we were happy that they asked us to do it.
14:11So we do, we go and play for them anytime.
14:15I was talking with this gentleman in line outside.
14:19It was just, I asked so many people, what are you here for?
14:22Which band do you want to see?
14:23And so many of them, and I'm not blowing up your skirt, said we're here to see Shinedown.
14:28And this one gentleman, he came up to me, he said, Pierre, I've got to tell you, you've
14:31heard this thing before.
14:32But he said, this band saved my life.
14:36And I actually have it on tape.
14:37I don't think it'll come out that you can hear it.
14:39But he just said, when I heard Simple Man, when I've heard the messages that they put
14:44out, it kept me alive.
14:48And we have another story of another gentleman that came to this MMRBQ a couple of years ago
14:53that you were playing.
14:53And he was going to go out and buy enough drugs to kill himself at the end of the show.
14:59He heard this message that you guys put out, and he did not.
15:04And you've heard it again from a lot of different sources.
15:07But when I hear that, it just blows my mind about the ability to craft such a positive
15:13message in a world that's filled with craziness and darkness and madness and chaos.
15:19You consistently put out this, you know what?
15:22There's a lot of shit out there.
15:23But you know what?
15:24We can get through it.
15:25You know, it's interesting.
15:28The other day, I was watching an interview with a good friend of ours.
15:32You've probably heard of him.
15:33His name is Jelly Roll.
15:34And he was talking to somebody, and he said something that was really simple, but very,
15:39very profound.
15:40And what he said was, I want to help people.
15:43I want to make sure that people know that I'm here for them and that music is here for
15:48them.
15:49And, you know, I couldn't agree more.
15:51I think that we've always tried to surround ourselves with people that think like that
15:56also in regards to the lyrics in your songs, the message that you're presenting to the
16:00public.
16:00For us as a band, you know, I think more than anything, everything that we've ever written
16:07has been built off of an experience of a situation that we've endured or a scenario that we've been
16:13involved in, the people that we've met, the places that we've gone to over the years, the
16:17fact that the four of us, we love each other, even though we disagree and we have arguments,
16:22we're still family, we're still brothers.
16:24And that's the biggest thing in the world is letting people understand, you know, you
16:28gotta not be quiet.
16:30You gotta talk it out.
16:32And that's something that we've tried to let people know through the years with our
16:36message and with the music that, again, we want people to understand it's gonna get
16:43rough.
16:44It's gonna not be easy all the time.
16:46That's why they call it life.
16:47That's why it's a journey.
16:48You're gonna get thrown curveballs all the time.
16:50But how do you summon in the midst of negative times?
16:53You certainly have had them.
16:54You both have.
16:54How do you summon the strength to break through the madness of the moment?
17:01I mean, you look at a song like Symptom of Being Human, you know, it's like there's no
17:06right or wrong way to go through it.
17:09You know what I mean?
17:09To go through life.
17:11And when you're down in it and it's rough, there's no right or wrong way to deal with it.
17:15I think everyone deals with it a different way.
17:16I think for us, leaning on each other is important.
17:20You know, I mean, we've you know, I've I've had some times in the last couple of months
17:23that when he's come to me and go, you know, you can talk to me about anything.
17:26Right.
17:26And so like that's kind of like how we end up.
17:29You know, I think our band being as close as we are is a you know, I see bands all the
17:33time that have been doing this not nearly as long as us.
17:36And they've got different dressing rooms and they have different buses.
17:38It's like we don't that's not how we do it.
17:40You know, it's like to me when we don't want to be in a band anymore together, we just shouldn't
17:45be in a band together.
17:45You know, we when we have our days like anybody else.
17:48But I mean, I think leaning on each other a lot, leaning on the crowd, leaning on the
17:52show.
17:52You know, I've definitely had days out here where the show is the most and you know, I'm
17:56having a rough day and the show is what gets me through it.
17:58Those people out there who have gone through it with us, who those songs help.
18:01You know, that helps me watching them and I always say we have the best job in the world
18:05because even an actor, right, you go do a movie, you're not in the movie theater watching
18:10these people go through this experience with you.
18:13We get to do that every night.
18:14So those people, the other thing, you know, the other thing, too, is exactly what he's
18:18talking about.
18:18It comes down to the audience.
18:19I mean, I've said this for two decades now and I'll continue to say it.
18:23I mean, we're a band that's been talking about mental health for the better part of 20
18:26years, but how we summon it is we've been given a responsibility by the people that
18:34have given us the platform to be ourselves.
18:37So we want to make sure, you know, as that audience grows that they realize the only
18:41reason that we're able to do what it is we do is because of them.
18:45And I think that we always focus on staying honest and staying true to who we are.
18:51But we've always wanted to, you know, we want to empower people.
18:56That's all we've ever wanted to do.
18:57You speak of gratitude a lot.
18:58In fact, one video I saw recently, you were on the deck of the hotel somewhere and there's
19:03a beach in the background and you said, thank you for letting us do this.
19:08And you say it a lot, though.
19:09So gratitude is a part of it.
19:10But present time seems to be a part of it.
19:12I read a quote, Brent, that you said about not beating yourself up for the past.
19:18And you said, I removed the rearview mirror a long time ago.
19:21And I love that because in this life, it's so easy to go.
19:25I effed up back there.
19:26Oh, what's going to happen to me out there in the future?
19:29And doing that too much, you miss the moment of the now.
19:32And it also doesn't allow you to grow.
19:35If you're looking in the past all the time or you're looking behind, you're missing
19:40everything that's in your peripheral and what you're focusing on in front of you.
19:47If you're looking behind yourself all the time or wondering who's back there or
19:50wondering what's chasing you, sometimes people will be like, because I'm really,
19:54really focused and I'm a pretty tenacious guy.
19:57And people will be like, are you running from something?
19:59I'm like, no, man, I'm running towards everything.
20:02So you guys have the rest of September and October out on the road and you have
20:07your evening with Shine Down coming up in Connecticut.
20:11Yeah, which we're super stoked about.
20:12Pierre and I are coming, if that's OK.
20:14Hell yeah.
20:15Let's go.
20:15December 29th, we're going up to Connecticut.
20:19Is this going to be the end of the Planet Zero album cycle before next?
20:23Or you guys got some more lined up with it?
20:25We don't ever really look at the end of anything.
20:27I know what you mean by the cycle and the visuals and stuff from this record.
20:33That's the beauty of putting records out.
20:35You can always, you have these little earmarks in all these different albums.
20:40I think that we're going to be taking material from this record into next year,
20:46but we're definitely working on new material and kind of looking at what the next steps are
20:50for what we want to do in 2024, but also what we want to do in 25, 26.
20:56We got a lot of international kind of negotiations that are in the process right now.
21:01We're always looking forward, man.
21:04You guys are road warriors.
21:06But also, yes.
21:07Yes.
21:10So just one quick famous story before, not that you're not famous, but there was a time.
21:17But I mean, that was the best thing I've heard all day.
21:21I love those little brushes with fame.
21:25And I think it was during the Sound of Madness rehearsals, you were in Nashville,
21:29and Zach and Brent went to take a pee, and somebody joined you.
21:35Yeah.
21:36There is a back story to this.
21:38This is the flip phone days, by the way.
21:39This is the flip phone days.
21:40There's a back story to this, which was this same gentleman who peed in between us that day.
21:46No, in a toilet.
21:48He wasn't just a little.
21:48Very tall.
21:49Very tall, curly, blonde-haired man.
21:52My wife and I were at dinner about a month and a half before that,
21:56and I saw this man who spends a lot of time in Memphis where I live crossing the street.
22:00And she was like, you have to go talk to him.
22:01He was with a friend of mine.
22:02I was like, I can't.
22:03I was like, because if he's rude to me, it'll ruin my whole life.
22:06Fast forward to a month and a half later.
22:08We're in rehearsals.
22:08We both go to the bathroom.
22:10Skip a stall, as you do.
22:12And this very tall, blonde-haired man who is the singer of a band called Led Zeppelin
22:17came right in between us and urinated in a toilet again, by the way.
22:21He didn't do it on the floor.
22:24I mean, he could have.
22:25He could have.
22:26We would have let him.
22:27I'm surprised a golden toilet didn't just appear when he walked in.
22:31It was kind of like when he unzipped his pants.
22:33It was like the briefcase from Pulp Fiction where you don't see what it is.
22:36The ultimate golden shower.
22:37So we're kind of like this right here, and he's in the middle of us, and we kind of do
22:41this thing where we lean back.
22:42We're like, Robert Plant.
22:45And so at the end of it, we all wash our hands, of course, as you do as adults, or you don't.
22:50And he walked out, and we were like, and I will like, I've learned now, especially as
22:56I get older, to take pictures either of my friends or the people I meet or with them.
23:01And I try not to do that a lot, but he never does it.
23:04He won't take a picture with anyone.
23:06It's just not his vibe.
23:07And so he was like, he was the first one to ask.
23:10He was like, hey, Mr. Plant.
23:11He's like, do you mind if we take a picture?
23:12He's like, yeah, of course.
23:13And I took a picture with both of them.
23:14By the way, he couldn't have been cooler.
23:16He was so sweet.
23:16He could not have been cooler.
23:18And we were wondering what was going on, because we were in Studio B, and someone was in Studio
23:21A, and it was like very folk versions of these Zeppelin songs.
23:24We're like, man, this guy sounds just like Robert Plant.
23:28And then when we go pee, golden aura comes out, obviously.
23:32And then we're like, oh, it was Robert Plant.
23:34And so that was the story.
23:35But he couldn't have been nicer, and he was really great to us.
23:38And it's funny, because Brent never takes pictures with anyone.
23:40So it was kind of like, he asked first.
23:42He was like, can we get a picture with you?
23:44I was like, yeah, can we get a picture with you?
23:45But the other thing, too, is he was like, you know, when you talk about people that are
23:50larger than life, he was.
23:53Also large in general.
23:55Tall, you mean.
23:55Like, super tall, but also just like a presence.
23:59He was Robert Plant.
24:00Like, that's, yeah, that was one of the, I don't think I've ever met, and I've met a few
24:04people, met a few celebrities, but he was definitely out of everybody, what I noticed, like, everything
24:11that you want a superhero to be, he was that.
24:14Did you tell him that you're in a band?
24:17Not at all.
24:17No, no, no, no.
24:18He just took the picture quick and got out of his way.
24:20We could have been janitors.
24:20We could have been janitors at this place.
24:22He didn't know.
24:22We weren't going to be like, oh, Joe, we're in a band, too.
24:25He's like, okay, cool, whatever.
24:27What if he said, I love that Second Chance song?
24:30Hey, Garth Brooks told me that.
24:31That was the coolest thing ever.
24:32I met Garth for the very first time.
24:35We've since become friends, but when I met him the very first time, he said, he goes,
24:39man, he goes, my daughter used to ask to put that song on every day on the way to school,
24:42and I was like, it's fine.
24:43Everything's fine.
24:45It's so great.
24:46It's so wonderful to have you back.
24:48You know Philly loves you.
24:49You know MMR loves you.
24:51Brent and Zach from Shinedown.
24:53The feeling is mutual, by the way.
24:55Well, it's a great friendship that we've had over these many years, and we look forward
24:59to it continuing as the days go forward.
25:02We love you guys and girls very much.
25:04Thank you for everything.
25:04You know me.
25:05I don't be showing up for interviews, but with you guys, I'm here.
25:10Brent and Zach.
25:10Right on.
25:11Shinedown.
25:11Thank you, guys.
25:13And thanks for bringing Billy Idol out, because that is awesome.
25:16Yeah, dude.
25:17This is like one of the coolest days ever.
25:19Have you met him before?
25:20No.
25:20You've got to get a picture with him.
25:22Yeah, yeah.
25:22Come on.
25:22Brent, you've got to get a picture with him.
25:23I will do that 100% if he doesn't mind.
25:26He's going to join us at the Skybox here in about 15 minutes.
25:30Awesome.
25:30Great.
25:31Thank you, fellas.
25:32Cool.