Jonny Drury and Lewis Cox give their analysis of another dismal defeat as West Brom were beaten 3-1 against Derby County.
Albion were 2-0 down at half time after an abject display that was met by boos at the break.
Adam Armstrong came on and pulled one back, before Albion conceded another late on leading to a mass exodus among The Hawthorns crowd.
Albion were 2-0 down at half time after an abject display that was met by boos at the break.
Adam Armstrong came on and pulled one back, before Albion conceded another late on leading to a mass exodus among The Hawthorns crowd.
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00:00Welcome to ExpressAndStar.com
00:10My name is Johnny Dreary
00:11I'm here alongside Lewis Cox
00:12After Albino served up another honking, stinking
00:15Abysmal, disgraceful performance
00:18As the race for the playoffs is
00:21Well, I say all but over
00:22Technically it's not actually mathematically over
00:24But a dreadful display
00:263-1 defeat here against Derby
00:27To back up what was
00:28Extremely bad on Good Friday
00:31Against Coventry
00:32Coxie, it's
00:35Well, I've been writing about it for the best part of an hour after the game
00:39The pace at which Albion's playoff journey has derailed
00:45Since the international break
00:46Unraveled
00:47Has been
00:49Shocking, alarming
00:51I didn't see it coming
00:53But what was served up today
00:54Was
00:56The fans deserved something today
00:58They got nothing from Albion
01:00Yeah
01:01I'm fine
01:01It shows that there are
01:02Big
01:03Big, big changes needed this summer
01:06And probably more than we thought
01:08As little as two or three weeks
01:10Yeah
01:10Yeah, I mean
01:11Interesting peep behind the curtain here
01:13We've just emerged after Tony Mowbray's
01:15Especially long post-match press conference
01:17Does it feel like an hour and a half in there
01:19No, to be honest
01:20I mean, I don't know if you agree
01:21But it was a very interesting one
01:22Obviously, you know
01:23We'll be writing as much of it up
01:26In the coming moments
01:27But I'm almost
01:28My head's almost there right now
01:30With a lot of
01:31Look, in a nutshell
01:32Shelly spoke about
01:33Summer rebuild
01:34Communication
01:38Relationship with the owners
01:39Regards
01:40Said rebuild
01:41What the rebuild needs
01:43How many players
01:43All of that
01:44And we'll get on to today
01:46But yeah, all of that
01:46And that's
01:47You know, I think
01:48After what was served up today
01:50And Friday
01:51I think
01:51Focus and minds
01:53Have to look to the summer
01:54And beyond
01:55Now, obviously
01:56I'm aware
01:57Loads of Albion fans
01:57Watching this
01:58And in the stadium today
01:59Are not happy with the head coach
02:01Are they?
02:02And obviously
02:04What is it?
02:04Five defeats in the sixth
02:05Like you say
02:06It's unravelled spectacularly
02:08And Mowbray was
02:09Was quite critical
02:10In there, wasn't he?
02:11Straight off the bat
02:12With his first answers
02:14I think you can read
02:14He's had enough
02:15Of some of the players
02:16And the attitude
02:17Of some of the players
02:17He called out the character
02:18Called out the courage
02:19Or lack of
02:20And, you know
02:22Then went on to say
02:23Players are leaving
02:24And, you know
02:25It's up to
02:26The club
02:27And the powers that be
02:29Because the powers that be
02:30Make the signings
02:31You know, Mowbray
02:32Assuming he's
02:34In the building
02:35Will have his input
02:37And Tony's just said to us
02:38There
02:38It's up to the
02:39Andrew Nester
02:41You know
02:42Ian Pearce
02:42To
02:42For their targets
02:44To be what
02:45Tony Mowbray wants
02:46And sees his footballers
02:47You know
02:47There are players here
02:48That don't work
02:49With Mowbray
02:50And that's pretty
02:51Pretty obvious
02:52Yeah, he called
02:54Like you said
02:55He called out the
02:56Character or lack of
02:57Courage or lack of
02:58Leadership or lack of
02:59And he was specific
03:02About the last three
03:03Wasn't he?
03:04Which is obviously
03:05It's Watford
03:06Isn't it?
03:07Yeah, Watford
03:08Losing track of games
03:09In days
03:09Which they won
03:10You know
03:11The only win in the last eight
03:12And it was really
03:14Interesting in there
03:15He said
03:15You know
03:15Red flashing alarms
03:16Were going off
03:17After the Watford game
03:18To him
03:18And it was like
03:19Didn't feel like
03:21The intensity was there
03:21Then we all know
03:22What happened at Coventry
03:23And we all know
03:24What happened today
03:25And
03:25Well he can extend
03:26Back through that
03:27To Bristol City as well
03:28Because they were
03:28Just as bad in that
03:29Yeah
03:29But
03:30What Mowbray
03:32Has specified
03:33Was those three
03:34You know
03:34He says
03:35Sunderland here
03:36He thought the side
03:37Played well
03:37Obviously goalkeeper
03:38Norwich
03:40He thought the side
03:40Played well
03:41Look we can all
03:41Have different opinions
03:42About that
03:43But yeah
03:45This was a
03:46This was a different
03:47Post-match press conference
03:48Today
03:49Wasn't it
03:49Like you know
03:50We weren't going to
03:50Spend 10-20 minutes
03:52Talking about
03:52What was served up there
03:53Because it was
03:54Shambolic really
03:55Wasn't it
03:56But certainly the first half
03:57And
03:58You know
03:59A few changes on the hour
04:00And they got a goal back
04:01It was a bit better
04:02Wasn't it
04:03And Derby were always
04:04Going to get a bit nervy
04:04And Alvin were
04:05Perhaps going to have a go
04:06At 2-1
04:07But I never really felt
04:07Like the equaliser was coming
04:09Yeah
04:09And obviously Derby got the third
04:10On the break
04:11Pretty pitiful
04:12Goal again
04:13Wasn't it
04:13Much like what went before
04:15At Coventry a few days ago
04:17For me
04:19It probably goes back
04:21Further than this
04:21But for me
04:22When I think back in
04:24Months of years time
04:25Coventry will be the
04:26The one that stands out
04:28For me
04:28I know you missed it
04:29Johnny
04:29But in terms of where
04:30It was on the line
04:31And it didn't show anything
04:34They've done it so many times
04:35You know
04:35The Coventry defeat
04:36The Coventry defeat
04:37Was three or four years
04:39To the day
04:40Since Alvin lost 4-0
04:42At Forest
04:42Which was in a similar situation
04:44Albeit they were
04:44Further away
04:46From the playoffs
04:47And yes there's been changes
04:50Over recent years
04:51But there's players out there
04:52On that pitch today
04:52And players out there
04:53Against Coventry
04:54That were in that side
04:55Of Forest
04:56And they've been
04:56Under two or three
04:58Different managers now
04:59And the final question
05:00Will be talking
05:01A lot of fans
05:02Talk about Mowbray
05:02And a lot of fans
05:03Don't want him here
05:04Next season
05:04But
05:05We don't know the answer
05:06To that
05:06Tony Mowbray doesn't know
05:07No he doesn't
05:08Only the owners
05:09You know
05:10He
05:10I've lost me
05:11A little bit
05:12Sorry
05:12Sorry
05:12Sorry
05:13A lot of them players
05:15Maybe not a lot of them
05:16But a few of them players
05:16They've been here
05:17For three or four years
05:18They've
05:18They're not
05:19I don't want to say
05:20They're experts in failure
05:21But this has happened
05:22Two or three times
05:23There is such a
05:24We said
05:25I remember using the word
05:26When it wasn't used to there
05:28When it was Joe Massey
05:28Stood there in those
05:29Kind of games
05:30That I'll be just
05:31Devoied of character
05:32Soft underbelly
05:34And it almost feels like
05:35Under Corbrand
05:35We kind of
05:36I don't know
05:37Maybe hoodwinked a little bit
05:38Because he did get that out
05:39Yeah yeah
05:39I don't think Carlos ever said that
05:40But Tony said that today
05:41And
05:42You know
05:42And he's
05:43I'm really glad he's called out today
05:44You know
05:45He's obviously frustrated
05:46And it's just
05:47The player
05:48If those players
05:49Aren't standing
05:50Having a really hard look
05:50At themselves
05:51A long hard look
05:52At the mirror
05:52At themselves
05:52After
05:53After what's happened
05:54In the last
05:54You know
05:55Three days
05:56Then it shows
05:57The problems
05:57And
05:58I think
05:58The
05:59I won't say rebuild
06:01But the changes
06:01That are coming in the summer
06:02Rebuild is fair
06:03I think they're far bigger
06:05Than we all
06:06Kind of thought
06:06Yeah
06:06You know
06:07Without giving too much away
06:08He said it there
06:09Didn't he use numbers of players
06:10That need replacing
06:11He gave name
06:11You know
06:12That was a big thing
06:13From this press conference
06:13He gave at least one name
06:15Of a player
06:15Who won't be here next season
06:16Now it's embargoed
06:17Unfortunately
06:17So I can't say it right now
06:19But it'll be on our website later
06:20This has been debated
06:23I think before Coventry
06:24And since
06:26Certainly
06:26But going back years
06:27Before my time
06:28Covering the club
06:28When in the crunch time
06:30In the must win
06:31In the do or die
06:32When did they last show up
06:35And I don't know
06:35Looking from afar
06:36Before my time
06:37It would have to be
06:38Some of the games
06:38In the Slav season
06:40Wouldn't it
06:40Which is forever ago now
06:42Isn't it
06:42Six years
06:42Obviously came down
06:44And haven't
06:45Been particularly close since
06:47Yeah
06:47Funny
06:50Yeah
06:50It's
06:51You know
06:51We'll finish on this next bit
06:54Because we've got podcasts
06:55And we've got so much to talk about
06:56A lot of questions coming out
06:57Obviously
06:57A lot of anger from supporters
06:58A lot to dissect
07:00About
07:01You know
07:01What has gone wrong
07:03And how it's gone dramatically wrong
07:04So wrong
07:05In recent weeks
07:06A lot of fans
07:07You know
07:08If you gauge
07:09You know
07:10I don't think you can gauge
07:11The whole fan base
07:12On social media
07:12But there's a lot of
07:13People that we
07:14Yeah
07:15There's a lot of people
07:16That we
07:16You know
07:17We see comments from people
07:18And you kind of
07:19Sift out the ones
07:20That are a bit more sensible
07:21And level headed
07:22And the more emotional ones
07:23But you're seeing
07:24A little bit of a shift now
07:25In fans
07:25Who
07:26Maybe you thought
07:28You're adding that
07:29Level headed category
07:30They've kind of
07:32Turned a little bit
07:33Against Mo Bray
07:34But
07:34I don't think
07:35That gauges
07:35The whole fan base
07:36But you know
07:37Fans did vote
07:37With their feet
07:38A little bit today
07:39Yeah
07:39Where does the blame
07:40Like Oxi
07:41In terms of
07:42The players
07:44You know
07:45Because
07:45I think Mo Bray
07:46If you sat down
07:48And had an honest
07:48Off the record
07:49Conversation with him
07:49He would probably
07:50Question a few
07:51Of his decisions
07:52In terms of selections
07:53Or this and that
07:54But then
07:55You can only do as much
07:56As put them on the pitch
07:57You can't
07:58You asked him about it
07:59A few years ago
08:00You can't go and play the game
08:01You know
08:02Those players
08:02Of
08:03I got called out
08:05For calling them
08:06Bottlers after Bristol City
08:07But they've done that
08:07In the last
08:0848
08:0972 hours
08:10Or however far apart
08:11The games were
08:12But where does
08:13How much of the blame
08:14Is you know
08:14And we will talk
08:16About it more tomorrow
08:17In the future
08:18And is Mo Bray
08:18The writing person
08:19You know
08:19Answer the questions
08:20That the fans are asking
08:21But where does
08:22Blame lie for this
08:23Where does the blame lie
08:24Look
08:25It's an obvious answer
08:26I think
08:26So don't shoot me
08:27But I think
08:28There's a
08:28There's a balance
08:30Of
08:30With
08:31Yeah
08:32You know
08:33I'm sure
08:34I'm sure there are decisions
08:35Tony would like to have
08:37You know
08:37Gone back
08:38And maybe changed
08:39Look
08:39I think
08:40I think certain things
08:41Out of his hands
08:42Have not
08:43Bode well for him
08:44Really
08:45So I'll go
08:47Back to January
08:47For one
08:48Or perhaps even
08:49The very start of Feb
08:49And the sale of Alex Palmer
08:51Yeah
08:53You know
08:54Tony's not said it
08:56And fans will say
08:58Well he played
08:58Wildsmith too long
08:59Well perhaps he played
09:00Wildsmith for three or four games
09:02Too long
09:02Or whatever
09:02But
09:03Yeah
09:04I'm not
09:05Rewriting history
09:06To say Alex Palmer's
09:07Like
09:07Buffon
09:08Or
09:08You know
09:09Whatever
09:09But
09:09What have we seen since
09:12Realistically
09:13So that's tough
09:15You know
09:16Unlucky
09:17Hand
09:17Doubt
09:18But
09:18Look
09:18Decisions
09:19We talk about
09:20Wildsmith was a controversial one
09:22Wasn't it
09:22He sort of stood by him
09:24For a while
09:24There's been
09:26Another big thing's been
09:28Adam Armstrong hasn't it
09:29Like we don't really have to go there
09:30Obviously it's not worked
09:31Madger's not kicked the ball
09:32He signed Armstrong
09:33Move heaven on earth
09:34To get him
09:35And it's like
09:35Well we've got
09:35We've got a golden ticket now
09:37We've got a goal scorer
09:38Haven't been able to
09:40Haven't been able to use him
09:42For whatever reason
09:43Is that service
09:45Is it tactics
09:46Is it position
09:47You know
09:49And
09:49People talk about
09:51Diakite in midfield
09:52When's Diakite
09:53The future
09:54Going to get a chance
09:55And obviously
09:55I said it after watching
09:57The first off performance today
09:58And I thought the same
09:59The commentary players
09:59Have checked out
10:00Haven't they
10:00Which is
10:01It is
10:03I'm not saying that for definite
10:05Because I don't know
10:05But it looks to me
10:06Like they have
10:06And
10:07To go back to the top
10:08What we were talking about
10:09And what Tony Mooray spoke about there
10:10Players out of contract
10:12It's no surprise
10:14They're going to leave
10:15Aren't they
10:15Like it's a clean slate
10:16It's a rebuild
10:17And they need a number of players
10:18And these players
10:19That have checked out
10:20You know
10:20You hope they
10:21You know
10:21A bit of personal professional
10:22Are looking for their future
10:24They want to still try
10:24To play well
10:25For me
10:26You know
10:26He said
10:27We'll wrap it on
10:28But he said
10:28You know
10:29Obviously
10:29Discussed players
10:30Who are out of contract
10:32And there won't be
10:33A next season
10:33But I think
10:34There's a few players
10:35That are in contract
10:35That won't be
10:36Westworld
10:36But I'll be in place
10:37Yeah
10:37I think
10:38I agree
10:38I think there are
10:39Players under contract
10:40That Mooray would
10:40Like or want to
10:42And I dare say
10:43Even the club
10:43Want to move on
10:44Because it just
10:44Doesn't
10:45Doesn't marry up
10:45And then you
10:46Think about finances
10:47As well
10:47But moving players
10:48On under contract
10:49Is hard
10:49Obviously
10:50I'm sure
10:51There are a few players
10:52They might want to do
10:52That earn a pretty penny
10:53Here
10:53You know
10:55What the players
10:56Think about that
10:57So
10:57Who is interested in them
10:58But look
11:00I don't want people
11:01To watch this
11:02And think
11:02Oh
11:02You know
11:03They're just
11:04In defence of Mooray
11:05And he's off
11:05Stop free
11:06I'm kind of wary of that
11:08They haven't created
11:09Enough have they
11:10Enough chances
11:11Obviously
11:11The goal return
11:12Is paltry
11:14Isn't it
11:14And look
11:15Mooray was brought in
11:16To address
11:17Carlos Corcoran's
11:19Lack of
11:19Chances created
11:21Goals scored
11:22And he hasn't been able to
11:23Has he
11:23And he said in there
11:24Look
11:24What I've tried to
11:27Coach say
11:27Motivate the players
11:28Hasn't working
11:29He's
11:30You know
11:30Hasn't worked
11:31So
11:32I think one of his
11:33Quotes in there
11:34Again without giving
11:34Too much away
11:35Is it the team
11:36Or is it me
11:36Yeah
11:37Well
11:39Evidence historically
11:40Is
11:40You know
11:42But then three of the
11:42Last four managers
11:44With the base of this
11:45Same squad
11:46Have probably been left
11:47Asking the same question
11:48Yeah yeah yeah
11:48Look
11:49Corcoran did a great job
11:50Corcoran did a
11:52Good to great job
11:53To get him in the playoffs
11:54Didn't he
11:54And they fell short
11:55The style was
11:58Pretty one way
11:59And Mowbray likes to
12:00Play the other way
12:01But he just hasn't
12:01Been able to do it
12:02It was a big job
12:04To come in
12:04Mid-season and change
12:05That big signing
12:07Hasn't worked
12:07I mean
12:08I feel like
12:09We could go around
12:10For everything
12:11And we will
12:12We will do on the
12:12Podcast tomorrow
12:13And it will be
12:15Interesting
12:15Having
12:16Sort of
12:17Listened back
12:18To
12:18A lot of what
12:20Mowbray said there
12:20Before we do the
12:21Pod obviously
12:22It's just
12:25Well
12:26The season's ended
12:27With a whimper
12:28Hasn't it
12:29And it's been meek
12:30It's been feeble
12:31Miserable
12:32I mean
12:33It was miserable
12:34Coming here today
12:35Wasn't it
12:36From before
12:36Mowbray said it in there
12:38He sensed before the game
12:39You know
12:41After Friday
12:44Which
12:44And by the way
12:45Friday was
12:46Embarrassing really
12:48If I'm honest
12:48Do you think they'll
12:50Come here and want to
12:51Respond
12:51Or like show the fans
12:53Alright like
12:54I don't blame any fans
12:55For not turning up today
12:56It was
12:56I mean
12:56If you want to laugh
12:58The club gave a
12:5825,000 attendance
13:00Number today
13:00It wasn't
13:01For my money
13:02It wasn't 20
13:0319 maybe
13:04But those that were
13:05You know
13:06You think the players
13:06Want to show it
13:07You know
13:08I guess
13:08Let's have it right
13:09Look
13:10Albion's
13:11Playoff hopes
13:11Were gone before today
13:13Darby had everything
13:14On the line
13:14You could sense that
13:15In the performance
13:15I think in the away end
13:16So I expected
13:18Darby to want it more
13:19Really
13:19And that's what
13:21Happened
13:21That's what happened
13:23And that's sad
13:24Isn't it
13:24But it's this huge
13:26You know
13:26Mowbray said it
13:27Near the top of his
13:2730 minute press conference
13:28Saying it's a huge summer
13:29Full of decisions
13:32For the ownership
13:32Yeah
13:33It certainly is
13:34Lots to dissect
13:35As you've just heard
13:36In the last
13:37I don't even know
13:37How long that video was
13:38But we could have
13:39Gone on for ages
13:39We will go on a podcast
13:40Tomorrow
13:41Yeah
13:42Can you use all the
13:43Descriptive words
13:44To describe how bad
13:46That was
13:46But it was awful
13:47Albion season is
13:48I have to say
13:49All but over
13:50Because like we said
13:50Mathematically
13:51They still
13:51Funnily enough
13:53Can't get in the playoffs
13:54It's never going to happen
13:54I was going to say
13:55Looking forward to Cardiff
13:56Johnny
13:56But I don't think
13:56You've got the trip
13:57It's never going to happen
13:58No
13:58No
13:59I haven't
13:59Fortunately I haven't
14:00Got to watch it
14:00In the next two games
14:01I'm elsewhere
14:02Otherwise engaged
14:02But
14:03Yeah
14:03Bad day
14:04You know where to go
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