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00:00So
00:27for the Supreme Court to weigh in
00:29at 1 a.m. on a Saturday,
00:31on a holiday weekend, no less,
00:33tells you that the Supreme Court
00:35does not have faith that the government
00:37of the United States of America
00:39will follow through on
00:41the orders that it receives
00:43from the Supreme Court. That is a
00:45dire and telling
00:47circumstance.
00:57The Supreme Court
01:27is a good idea.
01:34So what was clearly
01:36transpiring last night
01:38up until the ACLU
01:40filed this lawsuit
01:42in the middle of the night
01:43was that preparations were being made
01:45to outright defy
01:47the will of the Supreme Court
01:49and to deport these individuals without any
01:51process whatsoever.
01:53That is troubling.
01:57When it comes to providing
02:13a small modicum of information
02:16to the judicial branch to determine
02:17what so that the judicial branch
02:19can determine the legality
02:21or illegality of what the government
02:23is doing, they're turning around
02:24and saying, we can't provide
02:26that to you or we refuse to provide
02:28that to you on grounds of
02:29state secrets.
02:30A state secret is what Pete
02:33Hegg says and the other
02:35members of the defense
02:36community were discussing
02:38on the Houthi group chat.
02:40That's a state secret.
02:42This is a flight,
02:43departure, and arrival time.
02:44So to turn around and say
02:46that information is not
02:48secret for purposes of propaganda,
02:50but is so secret that you can't
02:53tell it to a federal judge,
02:54even in camera,
02:56even just on a private basis
02:57before the judge and the judge alone,
03:00is the kind of credibility gap
03:02that we are not accustomed to seeing
03:05in the executive branch.
03:06And I just asked the president,
03:27you know, it's this massive complex
03:29that he built, jail complex.
03:31I said, can you build some more
03:32of them, please?
03:33As many as we can get out of our country
03:36that we're allowed in here.
03:37What the government is engaged in now,
03:39even if you agree with the policy,
03:41as some in America clearly do,
03:44is unreasonable from the standpoint
03:46of not providing anything resembling
03:50an adequate window of time
03:53for individuals to challenge
03:55whether or not they are appropriately
03:58or inappropriately being categorized
04:00as eligible for this rendition
04:05to a foreign country
04:06and one of the most notorious,
04:08brutal prisons in the entire world.
04:11even if one is purely self-interested
04:29and cares not at all
04:31about other human beings,
04:33there is nothing,
04:35even if you are a citizen,
04:37even if you are a law-abiding citizen,
04:39to prevent the government
04:41from rounding you up,
04:44whisking you away
04:46to a foreign country
04:47without any process.
04:50And if you say,
04:50well, that would never happen
04:51because I would show them
04:53I'm a citizen.
04:54The answer to that response
04:57is simple.
04:58The only way that your opportunity
05:00to argue that
05:02would ever be meaningful
05:03would be if there were due process,
05:06which is to say,
05:08if you take due process away from one,
05:11there is nothing to prevent
05:13that deprivation of due process
05:16from being applied to anyone else,
05:19citizen or non-citizen.
05:22Due process is the thing.
05:24It is the single characteristic
05:27of a civilized society
05:29that is non-negotiable.
05:32is the single characteristic
05:50of the human being.
05:51But if we don't know
05:52about it,
05:53we are not doing this
05:54on the internet
05:55or whether it is a civilized society
05:56that is not meant to be
05:57or not to be.
05:58It won't be.
05:59It won't be.
06:00It won't be.