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00:00You think Vrabel will be putting up a tweet ripping on beef like that?
00:04I didn't rip on beef.
00:05I encouraged beef.
00:06You said he played bad.
00:08I played great.
00:09You don't think that's considered ripping on him as a teammate?
00:12My guys like the straight dope.
00:14We know.
00:14Yeah, we're good.
00:15My guys like this.
00:16All right.
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01:27Yeah, I'll bet him.
01:28I think it's going to be a tough fight.
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01:39You pay him too?
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01:46Oh, really?
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01:52Well, I just feel like you would have seen us promoting him quite a bit.
01:55I actually thought he – I didn't even remember him fighting in a while.
01:58He's been hurt.
01:59Okay, so –
02:00He did come back.
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03:09I'll get the last one in.
03:11All right.
03:11Oh, well, I was just going to say before we get into whatever we're going to talk about today, even a couple of times this morning when I was running in Chicago and I was done walking back to the hotel, two people, you were saying this the other day, told me how much they like the unnamed show.
03:22Yeah, I do get quite a high amount of people.
03:26Yeah, so people are enjoying it.
03:27Oh, really?
03:27You're the one.
03:28No, I'm not sure.
03:29It does seem like it's a pretty popular show.
03:31I think it all depends on your mood for the most part when you're Kirk.
03:36My mood or Dave's mood?
03:37Dave's mood.
03:38I feel like I'm pretty consistent.
03:39I agree with that.
03:40Yeah.
03:42No, I think sometimes you're like fired up to chat about things and other times maybe you're tired or sick and then, you know, it's just kind of like we're living in your world.
03:49But I get it.
03:50You're busy.
03:52I would say I feel that feels like an almost like an accusation.
03:56Yeah, I would say that like I disagree.
03:59I mean, I would say I am very busy and we're all are and I probably accommodate your schedules more than mine.
04:06Like I'm moving around doing whatever coming.
04:09I'm pretty.
04:10I will.
04:11Then Ryan, I'll say.
04:12Yeah, just when have we done anything for my schedule?
04:15Like last week.
04:15We're still like two weeks ago.
04:16Okay.
04:17One time.
04:18One time.
04:20Like we also do it for yours.
04:22Yeah, I don't know.
04:22Well, he came at me.
04:23If I said no, no, I said I said this show and now it depends on your mood, but now it depends on your mood.
04:30I'm as Kirk echoed.
04:32I feel like I'm pretty consistent.
04:33I mean, if any if any of the three of us said to the to the other two, hey, whatever, I have something going on.
04:38Can we do it?
04:38When I think everybody would say no problem.
04:40We'd find a day.
04:41Yeah.
04:41I mean, this is like our golf thing.
04:43I mean, we're trying to show's doing great.
04:45Granted, if you're in a bad mood, you're an asshole.
04:48Like it depends.
04:50You people say about me, but you're you're very quick.
04:53You're rare to just give like a compliment without, you know, coming around, slapping you in the face.
04:57If we're going to talk about us three in terms of giving compliments, I'm at the top of the mountain.
05:03And then you guys are just at the base and you're just walking up slowly.
05:07What did I say to you yesterday about how you played?
05:10I said you played great.
05:11Yeah, but I told you you played great.
05:13No, you didn't.
05:13Yes, I did.
05:14After I said, Dave, you were great.
05:15I shook his hand twice after the match.
05:16You were great.
05:16I was I was very impressed.
05:18Yeah.
05:18Kirk didn't shake my hand.
05:19That was a rat scumbag.
05:21That was a scumbag.
05:21How is this a scumbag?
05:22I'd love to get the opinions of people at home.
05:25And it was definitely if you're if you're in a if you're in any sort of sporting event, any any sort of sporting event.
05:31And you realize, wow, the ref just made a bad call.
05:34But the bad, but the bad call benefits me and my team.
05:38I think in retrospect, we all know that was the right call, which is fine.
05:40You guys won the match.
05:41No, I'm saying the call in which Hank let Dave keep that ball on 18 as our real play after he said practice, which is crazy.
05:48So, so, OK, that call by Hank, that call by Hank, why would I not accept that call by the ref?
05:55You would have done the same thing like, oh, hold on, ref.
05:57We're actually going to go against you making.
05:59Well, I mean, you also and you also know I was fucking around with that rock.
06:02Like that was obviously there was no way I was going to get away.
06:04I'm not talking about the rock.
06:05I'm talking about shaking my hand after the gentleman.
06:08You want to shake my hand now?
06:10You've cooled down.
06:11No, I'm good.
06:12Kirk, that's a fucking rat move.
06:14Kirk, let's be honest.
06:14You don't have the benefit of the doubt to say, you know, I was fucking around when I moved to the rock.
06:22I'm not claiming I do.
06:23I'm not claiming I do.
06:24But I'm saying that had to be a penalty.
06:26I literally looked away like it was like a sick.
06:27Right.
06:28But it still it should have been a penalty in the more I'm going to try to disagree with that.
06:33Well, that's big.
06:34But he's trying to say that he's trying to say that.
06:38That's it.
06:38I thought that's honestly it's actually it's funny.
06:40I saw this online.
06:41Inclusive.
06:41They don't have the video.
06:42It was your right.
06:43Oh, that's weird.
06:44Oh, that's that's strange.
06:45You pay late.
06:46I'm not even sure it happened.
06:46I'm not even sure it happened.
06:47You pushed it.
06:48And now you're saying like, oh, I knew I'd get caught.
06:50Like if you didn't get caught, you would have been like, oh, I moved the rock.
06:53We don't trust Kirk at all in that.
06:54But the bigger issue is really Dan Dan with the practice shot.
06:58That should have also been an automatic.
07:00That's an automatic DQ.
07:01Yeah, right.
07:02So, I mean, that's why Hank had to grant it.
07:04But that rule didn't exist, though.
07:06I agree.
07:06But I don't understand what that means.
07:08But before it happens that we should say, because there are a lot of Dan's not one of them.
07:11There are a lot of dummies out there.
07:12You should say that you can't practice before you play the whole.
07:15But I don't understand.
07:16That's an unwritten.
07:18You think like you think like meek Phil knows that.
07:20I think that's why I actually think meek Phil's smart enough that if they finish nine, he's
07:24team off ten.
07:24I don't understand what you mean by that.
07:25You do realize like in the U.S. Open on the Ryder Cup, if you play the whole before and
07:28you leave, you continue to practice on that previous screen.
07:32What?
07:32That's a USGA rule.
07:33What?
07:34Ryder Cup.
07:34Let's say you and I are playing natural Ryder Cup.
07:36We finish that whole.
07:37We go over this whole.
07:37The whole you play.
07:38Yes, I'm saying.
07:39Not the whole you're about to play.
07:40I agree.
07:40I'm saying you understand.
07:41But a lot of people wouldn't know that.
07:42No, that's crazy.
07:43So, you're saying, Kirk, in a Ryder Cup or any golf, you finish a hole.
07:46The other guy's still on.
07:47You sprint to the next.
07:48Be like, practice.
07:49You're not saying that you miss a putt.
07:51So, you miss the putt, right?
07:52Everyone goes.
07:52You can stay around.
07:53On the whole, you just play.
07:55I know, right.
07:55Yes.
07:55But do you think meek Phil knows that?
07:57Yes.
07:58No, he does not.
07:59Yeah, but not knowing that doesn't give you an advantage.
08:01There should be a guideline rule book.
08:02If there's a rule book, I'll follow it.
08:04You want to talk about a bad unnamed show.
08:06The fact we're talking about debating whether it is a penalty to move ahead and practice on the
08:11shot you're about to tee off on.
08:13It's a no-brainer.
08:14It's a no-brainer.
08:15It's a no-brainer.
08:16What?
08:16Hit the ball twice.
08:17That's not a penalty.
08:18And I didn't.
08:20We did.
08:20But it's okay.
08:21So, you'd say it's two shots.
08:22Whatever.
08:22We won the match.
08:23If you hit the ball twice, it is no longer a penalty in golf.
08:27That's just a fact.
08:29The story of yesterday, first of all, it was great.
08:31I think it was wild.
08:32It went from over.
08:34It was over.
08:35Yeah.
08:35To, you know, I mean, the story is beef missing that putt.
08:38That does swing the momentum and makes it a match to that.
08:41Yeah.
08:41I mean, you guys were celebrating like you won the entire tournament.
08:46It was an aggressive celebration.
08:47Look, we're excited.
08:49But I guess.
08:49Let me ask you a question.
08:50Why doesn't beef have both legs up there?
08:54I honestly think beef, and he's my teammate, so I'm knocking trash.
08:57Oh.
08:57It wasn't even a bad straw.
08:59I think.
09:00Look at you.
09:00Look at this guy.
09:01That's not necessary.
09:03That's.
09:03I mean, choke, choke.
09:04And you go back at him.
09:05Look at you.
09:06This is cinema, though.
09:07Cinema with them celebrating a beef re-
09:10Once again.
09:11Yeah.
09:11Look how mean you look.
09:13Yeah.
09:13He's a mean guy.
09:13What an asshole.
09:15That's not true.
09:15But I think beef sort of wanted to beat the pressure.
09:21Like, I think he rushed it.
09:23Yeah.
09:23Because he didn't want.
09:24I have a different theory.
09:26I saw him already.
09:26I think he had some bit already with his hat because he has that hat thing.
09:29He was already fiddling with his hat.
09:30I think he had some line.
09:31He was like thinking about like running with the ball before you catch it.
09:34Yeah.
09:34Well, he wouldn't run.
09:35I don't.
09:35Yeah.
09:36It was.
09:36It was some sort.
09:38And I got to tell you.
09:39Again, team game.
09:41He put me in rocks.
09:44Like, I.
09:45Sometimes your teammate.
09:45Okay.
09:46So you're going to talk about team game.
09:47I was perfect.
09:47Team game would be, you know what?
09:50We win as a team.
09:51We lose as a team.
09:52You came off the course and said, I did everything perfect.
09:55This guy put me in a rock the last eight holes.
09:58He's fucking.
09:58He was horrible.
09:59Horrible.
10:00Did you at least give.
10:01Because beef was devastating.
10:01It was devastating.
10:02Beef was devastating.
10:03Did you give beef a pep talk?
10:05I went up to beef and I did what I feel like is the best thing I could do in that situation.
10:09Which is.
10:10As not just beyond.
10:12Beyond golf.
10:13He's employee here.
10:15I went up and I said, beef.
10:17I'm going to treat you how I would treat every other person in this company.
10:21Not true.
10:22You blew it.
10:23You stunk.
10:24You would be, I think, more aggressive.
10:26That's what I say.
10:26I go.
10:27If I knew you better.
10:28I.
10:29Right.
10:29Oh, yeah.
10:29That's fair.
10:30Yes.
10:30It was like one of us.
10:31Or so.
10:31But I was.
10:32Oh, oh.
10:33He would have been jumping on chairs.
10:36So.
10:37He'd be happy.
10:38Because I've only met beef a few times and I said, I have to let you know, you blew
10:42that because I was perfect.
10:44And he accepted it.
10:45He accepted it.
10:45Yeah.
10:46He's a good guy.
10:47I mean.
10:47Sorry, boss.
10:48I mean, he was.
10:49He was.
10:50The lights were off.
10:51He was out there.
10:52He was wandering around.
10:52He was practicing that.
10:53You saw a massive shadow.
10:54Over.
10:54I tell you.
10:55Over.
10:55I forget.
10:56If we watch.
10:57He had me inside.
10:58Like, the holes we lost leading up.
11:01Under the bus.
11:01I didn't even have a shot.
11:02Under the bus.
11:02Are you surprised?
11:03I mean, this is like.
11:04I mean, now you're just killing the poor guy.
11:06No, it's a new day.
11:08Well, you're going over the.
11:08You're going over the failures of yesterday.
11:11This is the unnamed show you guys brought up.
11:12I don't even have beef on the sheets.
11:14I said.
11:16What are you talking about?
11:17He's not on the sheets?
11:18I don't think so.
11:19At one point, though.
11:20How would he not be on there?
11:21That was the biggest moment.
11:22Yeah, it is.
11:22At one point, you should have been.
11:24When he started, like, putting you in the rocks, according to you.
11:27You have to go up to him and be like.
11:29All right, dude.
11:30We're still three up.
11:31We're still two up.
11:32I was.
11:32It's funny.
11:33It's funny.
11:33I don't think so.
11:34Because I was following you guys.
11:34He was saying stuff like that to you.
11:36Yeah.
11:36He's like, well, three up, boss.
11:37We're okay.
11:38And then he hit it in the rocks.
11:39So Dave was like.
11:42Yeah.
11:42He was like.
11:43I'm telling you.
11:43I was.
11:44I had one bad shot the whole round.
11:46And it didn't affect us.
11:48You play well.
11:48He's played well in both matches.
11:50Yeah, you have.
11:50You have.
11:51You play well.
11:51That's a compliment.
11:51I've been impressed.
11:53That's a compliment.
11:54So if you could pick one person to play in singles today, who would it be?
11:57It's you.
11:58Oh, me go against?
12:00Yeah.
12:00Oh, I don't care.
12:01What do you mean it's you?
12:03I would.
12:03See, you're defensive.
12:04And I.
12:05Because I feel like that's you saying I want to play you.
12:07No, no, no.
12:08What?
12:08What?
12:09No.
12:10You anger me with your responses.
12:12And that's why.
12:13I asked a question.
12:14That was a stupid answer.
12:15He said, who do you want to play in singles?
12:17No, I interpreted it as, I interpreted it as if we, when you got, you guys said I played
12:26great.
12:26And then.
12:27That's a compliment.
12:28Let me finish.
12:29I want to hear how he interpreted it.
12:30Interpretably.
12:31You said I played great.
12:33You did.
12:33And then it was kind of continuous.
12:35So you played great.
12:36So who would you want in singles is how, I was like, who is our best player that we'd send
12:41out?
12:42I said, Whitney.
12:43Compliment.
12:43It was a compliment.
12:43And then it's like.
12:45Well, I think that's.
12:46No.
12:47I mean, I.
12:48How would you take me saying, who do you want in singles?
12:50I think you're both.
12:51I think you're both.
12:51Yeah.
12:52Who do you want in singles?
12:53Yeah.
12:53Like for our team, who would I send out for our best player?
12:56Like if you asked me.
12:57Exactly.
12:58I appreciate that.
12:58But that's exactly what I was saying.
13:00I still haven't heard the answer to your question.
13:01You understand that's what he was saying?
13:04Can you tell his children to stop, please?
13:06Do you understand now?
13:07I actually really appreciate that.
13:09I get it now.
13:09But I still want to know.
13:10Who do you want to play?
13:11Do you not care?
13:13No, I don't care.
13:13Really?
13:14No.
13:15Okay.
13:15I don't know.
13:16I don't know if there's one guy you got your.
13:18No, I don't know.
13:18I haven't.
13:19I haven't thought.
13:19I kind of thought you and I would play.
13:21But the overwhelming sentiment right now is that like people need to see a Beef Kirk
13:27matchup.
13:27Yeah, there's a lot of Beef Kirk talk.
13:29And Beef was on record last night saying.
13:31He's on this level.
13:32I think whoever I play tomorrow, I'm taking to the woodshed.
13:35Something similar to that.
13:37I get a matchup for Beef and he's not beating this guy if it works out.
13:43Beef's like two levels below.
13:45I got somebody who's going to handle Beef.
13:47Am I our number two?
13:49I said you.
13:50The way you played, you're right there.
13:52You're right there.
13:53I can't think of our whole roster.
13:56Frankie actually kind of left a little to be desired.
13:59He got smoked.
14:00Against me and Riggs.
14:02I think he won his first match, though.
14:04Yeah.
14:04But the second one.
14:05Jeff D'Lo hasn't won a point.
14:06He put together a whole course manifest.
14:09He didn't win a point.
14:11Sent me and Frankie a text last night, though.
14:14Kind of fired me up.
14:16To the whole team?
14:18I still feel pretty good.
14:206-4 lead.
14:21I think we're stronger in singles, too.
14:23Maybe we dial up helping out other matches.
14:26They coached the shit out of those last two matches.
14:28Just got to try and mentally rock them when we can.
14:31Jeff D'Lo, there's nothing coached up.
14:34Beef was in the rocks.
14:36They, like...
14:38Kirk was apparently, like, telling them where to hit it.
14:40I was very hands-on at some of those matches.
14:41But we were in the rocks.
14:44Yeah, if you're in the rocks, there's nothing you can do...
14:46That's tough.
14:48What's this?
14:49Yeah, that's how I was having to bank things.
14:52That was my...
14:53You weren't in the rocks there.
14:54You can promise you.
14:54What are you talking about?
14:55Go rewind that.
14:56You can't bank that.
14:56Go show that.
14:58Where's the hole?
14:59Well, no, the hole's to the right.
15:01See?
15:01So, yeah.
15:01How am I supposed to get that in?
15:03Tell me how I'm supposed to say that.
15:04Well, I think the only thing I would say...
15:05The only thing I would say to you is...
15:06That was his T-ball, that three-point, yeah?
15:07Yeah.
15:08That was on 17.
15:09Nothing you can do there.
15:10And that was every hole.
15:12That was every hole down the stretch.
15:14I just didn't want to see Beef's first big barstool company out of the game go that way.
15:19I think it's good for him.
15:20See Gruden dancing around.
15:22And you know what?
15:23White Sox, Dave, such a weasel.
15:25Like, Kirk does the choke thing, but he's crazy.
15:27And you see, if you go back to the celebration...
15:30I love this guy.
15:32If you go back to the original when Kirk gets in his face, you see White Sox, Dave, you
15:36a quick choke one.
15:37Yeah.
15:38Choke one, too.
15:40Oh, poor Beef, man.
15:41Look at that.
15:42Look at that.
15:45I love my guys.
15:46Beef get embarrassed like that.
15:48Yeah, it was tough.
15:49I love my guys.
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17:04The hats, they're sick.
17:06Okay.
17:07It's a cool hat.
17:07You never wear hats, huh?
17:09No.
17:11Somewhere it just doesn't look right.
17:12It feels, for me, mentally, it feels like I'm restricted.
17:15That huge brain gets...
17:17For Christ's sake.
17:18Let me ask a question.
17:19I'm restricted.
17:20Try and fucking answer.
17:21It's a mental health issue.
17:22I get mocked.
17:23I get mocked as a...
17:24So if you had a hat on, like, on a KMS, you're not as quick-witted.
17:28You're not, like, it's slowing you down a little?
17:29No, I feel like...
17:30It's why I don't like wearing shirts that are, like...
17:32I like having...
17:33I think he's saying it's a real mental issue.
17:35Yes, it's a real mental issue.
17:36It puts him in an asylum.
17:37Yes.
17:38Look at Whitney laughing.
17:39No, it's just...
17:40But you've never done.
17:41I didn't laugh at that.
17:42I thought that was...
17:43Insensitive.
17:43That was enlightening.
17:45If we have that clip of me being like, it really gives him a mental issue, and Whitney
17:49is hysterical laughing.
17:51If you don't think I'm laughing when you hear somebody say, I'm mentally blocked wearing
17:55a hat, I mean, you got something else coming.
17:57It's a funny thing to think of.
17:59The guy's one of the smartest guys around, correct?
18:02He's quick-witted.
18:02He knows what's going on.
18:03And if you put a hat on him...
18:05This guy's always...
18:06Whenever I go through mental stuff, he's always...
18:07He's Rico with a hat on.
18:08He's always got my back.
18:10Always.
18:10Oh, yeah.
18:10What a guy.
18:11Last mini golf note, the White Sox Dave clip is unbelievable.
18:15Yeah.
18:16That's fucking unbelievable.
18:16Falling off the...
18:17Yeah.
18:18I don't know if it's on purpose.
18:19Of course that was not on purpose.
18:21What?
18:21You thought it was on purpose?
18:22What do you think?
18:22I think he's...
18:23What do you think?
18:23I think he's an arrow?
18:25Willing to do something like that.
18:26Let's see it again.
18:27There's no way that was...
18:28Dan is the...
18:34It's what Dan first said when I first inquired about White Sox Dave.
18:37It's always rang true.
18:39I'm like, we need this guy.
18:40It's after the chewing gum incident.
18:43The best thing ever.
18:45He's like, the thing about White Sox Dave is he's the funniest guy alive, but he can't do it on purpose.
18:50Which is not a compliment.
18:51No.
18:51It's like, you're funny when we're laughing at you.
18:53Correct.
18:53Now, he's racing Captain Kahn's today in a mile race.
18:59He says he runs a six minute...
19:01He'll beat Kahn's.
19:02White Sox Dave's in pretty good shape.
19:04Yeah, but 630 miles?
19:06Pretty quick.
19:07Kahn's is like a...
19:07White Sox...
19:08I will say, White Sox Dave traditionally loses all of these challenges that he...
19:13And the cockier he gets, the worse I think he is at it.
19:17He was the guy saying he could throw 90, right?
19:19Years ago at the New York College.
19:20He was basically saying he threw like a 90...
19:23That's a 95 mile problem.
19:26We all...
19:26I mean, we all think Rico did this, right?
19:28Is there any...
19:28I mean, is there any...
19:29I think...
19:30Yeah, I do.
19:31I couldn't believe that the Jack Mack thing was like eye-opening to me.
19:36To tell somebody that you're buddies with that you're going home and to go to another bar
19:40is one of the craziest things in the world.
19:42I think it's unbelievably rude.
19:44I'd do it.
19:45Well, it is rude.
19:46I know you would.
19:46I know you would.
19:47But you wouldn't even be at the bar to begin with.
19:49It is rude.
19:49But I don't...
19:50You really were like, oh, he's a bad guy.
19:52I mean, if that's what...
19:53Well, you've said he's a bad guy.
19:55Yeah.
19:55I'm saying in the litany of things that Rico has done, that one to be like he's a bad
20:01guy.
20:01Like, he's a psychopath.
20:03I mean, the guy...
20:03Yeah, because I feel like when you're out with a buddy, it's like...
20:07That's like...
20:08That's your guy.
20:09Like, that's...
20:09You're spending the evening like having some beers and hanging out.
20:12You know him.
20:13And then all of a sudden, you're like, I'm going home.
20:14He's always looking for the next thing up, though.
20:16Yeah.
20:16Like, he's that...
20:17Rico doesn't have any guys except himself.
20:19He's Miko Bosco.
20:20Like, who's the other...
20:21I guess not counting you.
20:22Like, who would be the first pick that he would knock Nate Oates?
20:26Like, who would he not go...
20:27Yeah.
20:27Can I move up for him?
20:28Oh, he'd run me over for Nate Oates.
20:30Right.
20:30No.
20:31So, that's the peak then.
20:31That's the one guy he wouldn't bail on.
20:33You think he'd run you over for Nate Oates?
20:34A hundred percent.
20:35I don't know.
20:36Nate Oates can't give him a job.
20:37No.
20:38If he thought...
20:39You could get a job.
20:40Like, Nate Oates is, like, going to put him on his bench, but you have to, like, shoot Dave in
20:44the head, he would.
20:45Not even a reservation.
20:48See him on the bench as the assistant coach.
20:50He would kill...
20:51Oh, he'd be the...
20:52He'd be the biggest, like, cheerleading, like, nice guy assistant coach.
20:57Taking those notes.
20:57And then if he ever became a head coach, he would be the meanest bastard.
21:01The minute he got that job as he's a coach for Nate Oates, his first thing would be to
21:04find a way to backstab Nate Oates and get the head coaching job.
21:06Yep.
21:06He'd be friends with the AD and the school president.
21:08That'd be his whole...
21:09He's planting drugs on Nate Oates.
21:11A lot of people say that was the end of the Penn-Barcel relationship that time when...
21:16Oh, we were there.
21:17Jay Snowden and put...
21:18Austin.
21:19Yeah, he...
21:19Headlock.
21:20Very verbal headlock.
21:20Were you there?
21:21Would not leave him alone.
21:21No, I remember you talking about him.
21:22I remember we would not leave...
21:23Enrico got really mad about that.
21:24He literally...
21:25I remember you walked over with me like, this is never going to end.
21:27Yeah, he just had him in the corner.
21:29But you still don't know if Jay was enjoying that.
21:32He was not.
21:32No, nobody could enjoy it.
21:33It's impossible to enjoy that.
21:34Unless you're, like, legitimately into, like, pain.
21:36College basketball?
21:36No, pain.
21:37Like, being...
21:38Like, mental pain.
21:39Because it was a brutal thing.
21:40I don't think he definitely told the Dickinson guy.
21:44I think what I think happened...
21:46So, the Hunter just set the tone.
21:47Yeah, go ahead.
21:48Hunter Dickinson, who used to play at Michigan, I'd say I was friendly with.
21:53In fact, at one point, like, kind of traded emails a little bit about, like, an NIL deal
21:58to keep at Michigan, which, dude, is crazy.
22:00They didn't even make the tournament.
22:02So, it's like, we're not going to pay a guy to not make the tournament.
22:04But, always friendly with him.
22:05Nice enough guy to me.
22:06He's with, on a...
22:09At the Final Four, he was with Jeff Goodman, who sucks.
22:13Sucker.
22:13Another guy didn't know who it was.
22:15And then Fanta, who we all love and is a fan.
22:17But, I think Goodman's like, don't go to Barstool or something after you're done playing.
22:23Come to us.
22:24Whatever us is.
22:26And Hunter's like, yeah, I wouldn't go to Barstool.
22:28Like, I like Marty and I like Rico.
22:30But, someone there told...
22:32And then, he's like, I don't really fuck with Barstool.
22:35And, I don't know why they brought up Titus.
22:37But, he's like, someone told me everyone at Barstool except Big Cat hates Titus.
22:43It's clearly...
22:44Well, and they pretended they didn't even know who Titus was.
22:48Goodman's interacted with Titus like 50 years.
22:49Yeah.
22:50Yeah.
22:50This is really...
22:51I always...
22:51I don't know who Goodman...
22:53Jeff Goodman is the absolute worst.
22:56Really?
22:57Thins-skinned loser.
22:57Like, prior things.
22:58Prior things.
22:59Yeah, he and I got into it.
23:00He came after me when I was criticizing, like, Ed Cooley for going from Providence.
23:04He is a loser.
23:05Classic, like, old school media, like, Barstool, that kind of guy.
23:09But, in his...
23:10For his world, like, if Jeff Goodman can get me to acknowledge his existence, that makes
23:16his year.
23:17Like, he needs...
23:18He needs...
23:18Today's a win for him.
23:19Yeah, he needs...
23:20So, he hates you, but he actually wants you to talk about him?
23:21Well, he needs us...
23:22Relevance.
23:23Yeah, for relevancy.
23:24He's an irrelevant ant, so...
23:26So, if you...
23:27But, if you...
23:27So, here's the evidence that I see against Rico.
23:30I don't think Rico likes Titus.
23:32One, he...
23:33I think he does now.
23:34Okay, but in the past, I know...
23:35Oh, he definitely hated him.
23:36I know, obviously, for a fact, he didn't like him.
23:38I think he tried to get him fired at one point.
23:40Oh, well...
23:40What'd he do?
23:41What'd he do?
23:41What'd he do?
23:42How'd he try to get him fired?
23:43He was in Chicago.
23:43You remember this.
23:45Rico found out that Titus may, like, miss some potential advertising thing or something.
23:51Was that who told me?
23:52I think so.
23:54No, it wasn't.
23:54It wasn't?
23:55No, it was not.
23:56It was not him.
23:56Sure.
23:57So, there's another person here that tried getting Titus fired, then, if it wasn't Rico.
24:01No, it wasn't fired.
24:02We're going way back.
24:03Anyway, so anyway, so we didn't like him.
24:06And then, I mean, the photograph is tough.
24:09Well, so, yeah.
24:10So...
24:11That's tough.
24:12So, again...
24:14Hello, Rico.
24:14What do you think they're talking about?
24:16It's one of the two.
24:17And I saw Marty here.
24:18Marty made a video, and he's like, I can't believe people think it's me.
24:22I'm like, Marty, what are you talking about?
24:24It's you or Bosco.
24:26Like, he said...
24:26He said you two are friends with him.
24:29You did a show.
24:30So, you think it's Marty?
24:31It's one of the two.
24:32What I think happened is it was years ago.
24:35Right.
24:35And both of them...
24:36When they hate him.
24:36That's a damn...
24:37Both of them are absolute suspects.
24:39And Marty, maybe I did say it three years ago.
24:41Bosco, Bosco's entire M.O. is trying to get people run out.
24:45But if your life is on the line, you have to make the correct choice.
24:47Bosco.
24:48Right.
24:49That's what I'm saying.
24:49So, there was a time when both Rico and Marty didn't like Titus.
24:55Correct.
24:56Okay.
24:56So, it might have been both of them together.
24:59Because they had a gambling show.
25:04It's tough.
25:04I don't have my headphones on, so I'm talking over it probably.
25:07But...
25:07Hey, that's a pretty confident...
25:09Ask Hunter yourself.
25:10I never said that.
25:11I mean, that's...
25:12Again, but that's what someone was guilty.
25:14Also, what is Hunter going to say in that spot, though?
25:17Like, if he likes Marty, he's probably going to...
25:18And Marty's like...
25:20I didn't say it recently.
25:22You said he might have said it.
25:23Like, both Bosco and Marty could have said it years ago.
25:28And the set of...
25:29What does it matter if he hates him anyway?
25:30Who gives a shit?
25:30No one cares, but it's just...
25:32I think Bosco's grown so much that he would be like, I said it.
25:36Well, that's still...
25:37I don't...
25:38I like Rico, but let's not make it like you.
25:39I think he's grown a lot where he'd be like, you know what, I said that.
25:42Is that how you feel?
25:43Don't you see what I mean?
25:44Grown that much?
25:45No.
25:46He's gotten smarter at, like, hiding it.
25:48I feel like now...
25:49He's on meds.
25:50And he's top of the world after his tournament.
25:53He's on meds.
25:53He's on meds.
25:54That's not...
25:55He's, like, being treated for...
25:57Meds improve people.
25:58Yeah.
25:58What's wrong with that?
25:59Nothing.
25:59He's on...
26:00But it's like he's...
26:00That's why he's acting better.
26:03But, you know, because it came in when we hired Titus.
26:07Dan hired him.
26:08Dan was friends with him.
26:09Marty and Bosco were doing their basketball stuff.
26:13And then Dan's basically like, I'm going to hire an established guy.
26:16There's nothing that would make Bosco more mad when, like...
26:19It's a shot at him.
26:20Plus, he's been trying.
26:21He also feels very insecure about that.
26:23Yeah.
26:23That's a bit bad, yeah.
26:25Which I hear him.
26:26You know what I mean?
26:27Like, that would hurt if you're Bosco.
26:30Like, I'm trying to grow in to be the established guy.
26:33And you're bringing somebody that's going to...
26:34Yeah, they brought another hockey podcast.
26:35You might have good questions.
26:36And then mostly sports is kind of a monster, right?
26:39Like, viewership-wise, they do pretty good.
26:41They're doing well.
26:42Yeah, so it's like, then that happened.
26:44It's like, I could see how Rico was frustrated.
26:47Oh, and by the way...
26:48Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
26:48Rico would get mad about, at that time, things that made no...
26:53Right.
26:53Right.
26:54So, yeah, either one could have said it.
26:56But I think it was years ago.
26:57Has it been a good week for Nicky?
27:00No.
27:00So, this, I guess I am going to talk about it a little bit.
27:03I wasn't, but this Mary Kate Cornett...
27:08Talked about it last week.
27:09Yes.
27:11I thought we weren't supposed to say her name.
27:13No, I think at this point, because it's all over the place.
27:16And their family and their lawyers are going on a media tour, basically.
27:20Yeah.
27:20So, it's like, all right.
27:23And they've taken the next steps of some real, you know, legal action.
27:26This sucks.
27:28So, I...
27:29There's a couple aspects to it.
27:31You got to be careful with this, right?
27:32Yeah, a little bit.
27:33Well, careful.
27:33I said last week it was never on Barstool Airways.
27:38It was individual posts.
27:40I was wrong about that.
27:42It was on...
27:43Nicky Smokes posted his thing.
27:46Idiotic.
27:47Our Barstool U, person who runs that Twitter account, who I don't know who that is.
27:52I...
27:52He found out who I was yesterday.
27:55You talked to him?
27:56Yes.
27:56What Twitter account did he run?
27:57Was that a civil conversation or no?
27:59Like a Viceroy?
28:00Yeah.
28:00Like...
28:01No.
28:01He runs our Barstool U account.
28:03The main...
28:03Okay.
28:04Okay.
28:04He put it up, Nicky's video.
28:07It was up on that account back when this all went down for six minutes.
28:12Did he say your name in the video?
28:14Nicky didn't.
28:14Nicky's video was horrible.
28:16The name...
28:17Oh.
28:18Everything.
28:19Oh.
28:19So, six or seven minutes.
28:20I didn't know that.
28:21The worst part about this case is I agree with the fucking family in the sense of, I'd be pissed.
28:28Why are you talking about a non-famous person?
28:31Right.
28:31It's a private...
28:31It was pretty obviously to me fake.
28:33So, they have every right to be mad.
28:36Furious.
28:36So, we have three people who talked about it.
28:41We have Nicky Smokes, Kevin, and Jack Mack.
28:46I would put Nicky Smokes and he...
28:48And I talked to Nicky Smokes.
28:49And I said it and I ripped him apart.
28:52I go, listen, I think Nicky Smokes actually cares about this company.
28:55I do.
28:57I also think he's the dumbest person ever.
28:59And it's like, I'm not going to lose sleep because I have a liability who doesn't mean to be that dumb.
29:07But, like, I don't know how you posted that.
29:11Like, I really don't.
29:12What did he say?
29:14I kind of get how he posted it.
29:16I'm not making an excuse.
29:17He said he's everywhere and he's...
29:18Did he not know that she was not a public figure?
29:22He's so dumb he didn't even think about it.
29:23I don't think any...
29:24But no, but...
29:25No, but you should.
29:26No, I don't.
29:27But he, like, there's just no chance he ever would.
29:29He's seen an internet story, like, on fire.
29:32He's saying he saw, like, other people with us.
29:33Kevin has to be better.
29:35He's apologizing.
29:36He's, like, really stupid.
29:37I'm like, you...
29:38I don't want to put it in, like, in my head.
29:40But it's like, you're smart enough and done this long enough.
29:44Like, you wouldn't like that if that was your daughter, like, or any...
29:47It's just so stupid.
29:49And it's not even...
29:50I'm not even talking about legality because it was everywhere.
29:52There's a...
29:53And not like we're, like, Mother Teresa, but there's a degree of, like, decency.
29:59Like, it's just a stupid thing.
30:01I guess what I get...
30:02I guess it's a cautionary tale in that I...
30:05Because I don't do any of this stuff.
30:06Like, I initially assumed she was some internet TikTok.
30:10I just did because she was so all over the place immediately.
30:12Because I don't know these people.
30:12I don't know how the thing blew up.
30:15And someone's...
30:16The family says they're investigating, like, the original...
30:19Or whatever.
30:20Yeah, who did this originally?
30:21Because they posted intentionally a lie.
30:24They'll probably be criminal.
30:25We were really stupid.
30:27And it's like...
30:28I hate being dragged into this.
30:31Yeah, it's a tough look.
30:32Is it now a legal issue for you?
30:33Like, a legitimate...
30:33We're going to have to deal with it.
30:35Yeah, we're going to have to deal...
30:36And I legally...
30:39The Nikki smokes for six minutes.
30:41It's that...
30:42Because he just had the pictures and stuff.
30:44Did it do any actual damage at that point?
30:45Probably not.
30:46But I agree with the fucking dad.
30:50Like, I agree with the family.
30:52And I went back and I saw it.
30:53And he's sending...
30:54There's, like, a DM I saw of him to me being, like...
30:58The dad?
30:59Yeah, to me when this is all going down.
31:00But I didn't fucking see it.
31:01I get ninth.
31:02Wow.
31:02How would I ever know that?
31:04Yeah.
31:04But just really stupid.
31:08And it sucks.
31:09Because I do feel like Barstool gets this rep of all the bad stuff.
31:15And we're not bad.
31:16But this...
31:17It's like, oh, there goes Barstool again doing it.
31:20And it's, like, rogue.
31:21And it's stupid.
31:23And we should be better than that.
31:24And I'm going to have to deal with it.
31:25And it's the worst part of getting the coming back.
31:27Like, you know, I'm getting...
31:29It'll be me who gets actually dragged.
31:30Me and Nikki...
31:31Nikki smokes so stupid.
31:33I walked in today.
31:34He knows all this is going on.
31:35There's an article in the Daily Mail all about this today.
31:38Oh, really?
31:39It's huge.
31:39Yeah.
31:40That the lawsuit...
31:41Like, that the news...
31:41He's all over it.
31:42I responded to them.
31:43I go, I'm pissed.
31:44We shouldn't have done it.
31:45I get why the family's mad.
31:46Our people are idiots.
31:48Like, I don't know how it can troll...
31:50Like, the legality of it.
31:51Like, what?
31:51The New York Times?
31:52If a New York Times reporter who's not...
31:54Like, they tweet something bad that Times is responsible?
31:57No, I don't think that's how it works.
31:58I still wish we didn't do it.
32:00But Nikki smokes.
32:00I come in.
32:01I go, Nikki, big article.
32:03About you today in the Daily Mail.
32:05You thought it was a good one.
32:06He's like, was it good?
32:07I'm like, yeah.
32:08I'm like, yeah, it was great.
32:10He goes, really?
32:10What were they talking about?
32:11Florida won it.
32:12I go, no, you fucking moron.
32:14Who would ever have anything good to say about you?
32:17Like, it's brutal.
32:18It's a horrible article.
32:20It's like, you're shirtless.
32:21Like, moron fucking attack.
32:24So, it sucks.
32:25And we'll have to deal with it.
32:27I like him, so I wouldn't watch it.
32:28Do you ever...
32:29When this happens, do you ever think about firing him or no?
32:32Yes.
32:32That's the reaction on how someone deals with it.
32:37Like, even the kid that I talk to who runs Barstool U.
32:40He's like, this is my dream job.
32:41I never do anything to jeopardize.
32:43I'm like, what are you doing?
32:43He's like, I honestly, like, his answer was, I thought I would get in trouble for not posting
32:48something going so viral.
32:50That's kind of what I meant.
32:51It was so viral.
32:53I do get that intellectually.
32:54Yeah.
32:54So, but then you got to like...
32:56What you want him to do now is, before this happens, is just Google it and know what it is.
32:59Yeah.
32:59I'm like, they get it after you see the damage.
33:03And I always say, ask.
33:05If you have like 1% because it asked me, Dan, or Paul, because we're going to say, don't do it.
33:13It's not worth it.
33:14Like, what's the upside?
33:15It's such a race now to be like first.
33:17Yeah.
33:17And there was enough, like, I went back and read my text when I saw it.
33:21You thought it was bullshit from the start, right?
33:22Yeah.
33:22And I read my text with Gaz when this all went down.
33:25Yeah.
33:25And I actually, I'm like, yeah, this is garbage.
33:28And Gaz is like, yeah, I said no.
33:31Nate said no.
33:31I'm like, Paul, I never say this, but like, good job.
33:35Like, this is why you guys are there to stop shit like this.
33:38And it turns out it was on there anyways.
33:40So, since it was on a Barstool account, now they can come after Barstool.
33:44Do they go after Kevin and Jack Mack individually?
33:47I think they may go after everybody.
33:49I'm not quite sure.
33:50There's an element.
33:51They're going to go after the money, though.
33:52That's the thing.
33:53I've heard that well.
33:54Well, yeah, because if they go to court, then they'd have to, like, prove it wasn't true.
33:59No.
34:00Which I.
34:00It's not true.
34:01It's 100% not true.
34:02No shot is true.
34:03Yeah.
34:03And they also, they have to prove that, you know, it affects them maybe monetarily or
34:08things like that.
34:08Yeah.
34:09And that.
34:09Which I think is probably legit.
34:10Yeah.
34:11But at what point?
34:12Like, how did it blow up?
34:13I don't know.
34:13That's what's crazy.
34:14But when you say if they go to find the original purpose, person, they could probably do.
34:20And that would.
34:20And that could they legally get in trouble for.
34:22Yeah.
34:23That's a crime.
34:24That's absolutely.
34:25Sure.
34:25Oh, yeah.
34:26You could.
34:26That's a crime.
34:27No shit.
34:28Yeah.
34:28Yeah.
34:29You can't just make up a lie about somebody, especially if that's like.
34:33They could go to jail.
34:34I mean, I would.
34:35I would agree.
34:36Like, yeah, that's such a bullshit thing to do.
34:38I had no clue.
34:38If you made up a lie about a random person, you can go to jail.
34:42Especially now.
34:42There's all sorts of like internet voting rules and stuff like that.
34:45I mean, there are obviously degrees of like.
34:47You generally can never get in trouble if you tell the truth, but a blatant lie.
34:51Yeah.
34:52Yeah.
34:52I mean, especially if it's done specifically to damage somebody.
34:56Yeah.
34:56Which is clear it was.
34:57I said something about you putting today that wasn't true.
34:59Who cares?
35:00But like they're trying to ruin.
35:02Yeah.
35:02Yeah.
35:03No doubt.
35:03Now, how it blew up, I have fucking no idea.
35:07How does it ever, though?
35:07It's just this weird.
35:08It's just it started like here, though.
35:11I think how small it was when it started.
35:13What?
35:13Like the actual like where where it began.
35:15Like it wasn't like it began on something.
35:17It was probably like one tweet.
35:18It didn't start the New York Times.
35:19No, it was like on an anonymous Ole Miss like.
35:23And it just caught wildfire.
35:25Yeah.
35:25I mean, if you looked at it, that's what to me.
35:28It's like the girl's an attractive, pretty girl.
35:32They're taking her pictures.
35:33The dad.
35:33It just made no sense.
35:34Right.
35:35No sense.
35:36Right.
35:36And now Barstool is right in the middle of it.
35:38And that sucks.
35:39It's like the deposition.
35:41I got to get involved in it.
35:42It's just it's stuff that on a scale of things I don't want to deal with.
35:46But so to answer your question, how do I deal with it?
35:49And like Nicky, I don't want to say he's like close to tears, but I could tell he was affected.
35:54Like when I fired Francis, I for the that blog post, I really had the vibe.
36:00He didn't give a fuck about Barstool.
36:02Like for these guys who have been involved, really, really dumb.
36:07If he fucks up again, though, or is it just who?
36:09Nicky, if he fucked up again, then you got to go.
36:12I think in this manner, if he won't, he'll I think I don't think he will.
36:17Yeah, he does care.
36:18I could tell even too.
36:19Yeah, I like the guy.
36:20I do, too.
36:21I don't know why.
36:22And I like he's nice to some.
36:23I feel like I should hate him, but I like him.
36:25He's something about him.
36:27I mean, I honestly it unfortunately is an advantage for me really thinking you're like just slightly above caveman intellect.
36:37Yeah, you're stupid.
36:37That's a big like like yeah, like Florida meth head idiot.
36:41Just so kind of dumb break.
36:43If a bright guy does it, you're thinking like Francis.
36:45Yeah.
36:45And when Francis did it, like I really didn't think he was like, oh, I put the company like he's like looking at Frank.
36:51I think like honestly, Nicky's like, I really feel bad that I put us and everybody in this position.
36:59I do feel that way.
37:01It did kind of affect Clemmer's championship, too.
37:02I mean, what affect the Clemmer's championship, too, got overshadowed.
37:07So Kirk told me at dinner the other night.
37:09Well, don't give it away.
37:10Okay.
37:11I don't even know yet, but I've heard that I got.
37:14I've heard I've heard the Clemmer's doing numbers on this thing.
37:18No one's told me.
37:19Yeah.
37:19Oh, yeah.
37:20Tell him the number.
37:21I don't know.
37:22No, you have to.
37:25Somebody I don't know how this works.
37:26I could be wrong.
37:27And do we know this is true?
37:29I don't know.
37:29So he does it on Twitch.
37:31And somebody told me the average Twitch viewing for this is like half a person.
37:37We confirm that.
37:38He said you said there was eight streams, six total views.
37:43Can we confirm that or no?
37:44Is that true?
37:46The guys back there.
37:47I don't know.
37:48I think that's.
37:49I also want to tell that much story, but I don't think I can.
37:51I want that much story.
37:52Just going to ask.
37:53I need the one.
37:54The much story.
37:54Yeah, I'll give you the best.
37:56Oh, man.
37:57So we're not.
37:59So Mudd is our friend Mudd, who hasn't worked in two and a half years, is in a fantasy.
38:05Who had a job here.
38:06He literally had to say yes.
38:07Yeah, he had a job, right?
38:08Yeah, he was offered a job.
38:09There's a chance he could be here today.
38:11Like, you know.
38:11Yeah.
38:11Yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:12Absolutely.
38:14Hasn't worked in two and a half years.
38:17He's in a fantasy baseball league with like other minifans.
38:20He's like in a minifan fantasy baseball league.
38:22And to get in the league, it's a hundred dollars.
38:30A hundred bucks.
38:30Which for him is like, you know.
38:32Twenty grand.
38:33And can I just say before you can.
38:34I think this may be the most mortifying story in 20 years of doing this.
38:38You look ill when I told you about Mudd.
38:41So it's a hundred dollars to get in.
38:44And so the way you pay it.
38:46And by the way, it's like 39 cents a day.
38:49Baseball season is nine months long.
38:50Oh, that's a great bargain.
38:51That's a great bargain.
38:52Yeah.
38:53So to get in, you Venmo, which I don't have.
38:55So you Venmo.
38:56And you can see what it is if you Venmo.
38:58Or you can make it private.
38:59Okay.
39:00But if it's public.
39:00But he didn't.
39:01Okay, he didn't.
39:01He didn't.
39:02Right.
39:02So I assume so that people in his life who know he's not working don't know he's doing
39:07this.
39:08Somebody in the league sent me a screenshot of it.
39:10And it said, $100 Rob Bradford Charity 5K run.
39:16It's honestly like the most unbelievable thing I've ever heard.
39:23Couldn't even let his wife know he's doing a hundred dollars in a baseball league.
39:28Kirk said there's probably thousands of charities that he's sending money to on Venmo.
39:34Are you running the marathon?
39:36I got to tell you.
39:37You ran 19 5Ks last week?
39:40I've encountered a lot of pathetic people in my day.
39:43But Mutt is top of the list.
39:45Your takeaway was.
39:46I love him too.
39:47You still think that he has a lot of money.
39:49Yeah.
39:50See, I thought it was.
39:50I said to you at dinner, I said, there's something there.
39:53You can't live with two kids.
39:55Right.
39:56Here's what I think.
39:57The fact that his wife is allowing Mutt just to freeload off of her and her family's money.
40:03And he doesn't do anything.
40:04So he's not allowed to spend a cent.
40:06They have it.
40:07But she's like, oh, you want to play a hundred dollar fantasy league?
40:10You better get a job, dude.
40:13And he doesn't want to do it.
40:14So he's got to.
40:15Anything he wants to do has to be.
40:17It's to create a charity.
40:18Yeah.
40:18Because otherwise.
40:19It's like the human fund.
40:20Yeah.
40:20Correct.
40:21Because she clearly funds the entire life.
40:24So let's do this again.
40:26And I'll kind of keep trying this with the derby coming up.
40:31Is there a job offer on the table for him?
40:33No.
40:33I love the guy.
40:35But that's like charity.
40:38Like there's no charity cases here?
40:41But would you let him go do some derby stuff?
40:46Yeah.
40:46Could he come to the derby with you?
40:48I'm not even going.
40:49Oh, you're not going?
40:50No.
40:50Why?
40:51Because the derby.
40:53Oh, they big-timed you or something, right?
40:54No.
40:55It's just tough for me to enjoy.
40:56Elio and I bet.
40:57And where we sat, it's like you can't even concentrate.
41:02It's so over-the-top, like people in your face, pictures.
41:05It's like I'm in the book trying to gamble.
41:07It's hard.
41:08Oh, it's almost like you're too famous there.
41:11I don't know if too famous is the word.
41:13The people, the section, we are very specific, what Elio and I like.
41:17We like to be able, we need TVs.
41:18We need to be able to see the race.
41:19Quick walk to the.
41:20Yeah, and it's just hard.
41:22For whatever reason, the derby doesn't have like a setup.
41:25There's one setup on the other side of the glass where like Tom Brady would sit, Aaron
41:30Rogers, and they don't let us in there.
41:33And those people kind of are to themselves.
41:36I actually got offered, I got offered 10% of a derby horse.
41:41How much is that?
41:42Would it cost?
41:43A little over a million dollars.
41:45And that horse is already in.
41:47It's going to be one of the top choices.
41:48Is that a good, is that a bad investment?
41:50It would be a great investment.
41:51If it, if it, if it wins, if it loses, if it finishes like fourth, if it, yeah, you
41:56don't lose money on it.
41:57Okay.
41:58It almost is a risk-free investment is more marketing.
42:01Why don't you do it?
42:02Because so that if you would never lose money, no matter where it finishes, that means at
42:06some point, this thing's being sold for what?
42:0810 million.
42:09Yeah, pretty much.
42:10Even by finishing for fourth because it's already accomplished enough, right?
42:15You can get to the, and then if it wins, you 25 million, that would probably the
42:19horse would become worth probably 25 million.
42:22Wow.
42:22So what, what is, what is any reason why you wouldn't do this?
42:26I am a horse racing purist.
42:29Like not the, I need to own it alone thing.
42:31No, it's not necessarily alone.
42:33That is like, I want to, or more than 10, but that's fine.
42:37But I, I can bet on the horse.
42:39Like, I don't want to, like this horse, I've never talked about the horse.
42:43I'm not going to say the name because I don't want to expose who offered, but it's
42:46like my, I like watching like the horse from birth to race.
42:53If I have a horse, if I have a horse in the Derby, you watch the birth of the
42:57horse?
42:57Like, no, but I'm like, just coming out.
43:00Yeah, I do.
43:02Jackie pants.
43:02I post videos of baby, but like even fine.
43:05If I got offered into this horse four or five races ago and I could watch develop and go,
43:10I've never talked about the, suddenly I'm gung ho.
43:13It's just a finance.
43:13Do they have a rate?
43:14Does it have a race before the Derby?
43:15No.
43:16So why would this guy come to you?
43:19Because a lot of these people, I think the owners knew I'm a legit horse guy.
43:23And like, I'm not just a celeb who wants in on it and it helps with the marketing of
43:29the horse.
43:29Like they want the attention on the horse and they have so, if they own 90%, they're
43:33probably like billionaires anyways, but there's so much more attention on the horse.
43:39So is there, is there a small aspect of if this horse won at the winner's circle picture,
43:45like you'd be just kind of like a pigeon on the right?
43:47No, I think I'd be part of it, but it's like, it wouldn't feel real.
43:50It feels like, yeah, it's not real.
43:51It feels like you just bought, yeah.
43:53Yeah.
43:53Like, so I passed on it.
43:55Five of the Twitch numbers if you want them for Clemens.
43:57Lay it on me.
43:58Dude.
43:59They won.
44:00Let's get ahead.
44:01Oh, here it is.
44:01Here it is.
44:02Yep.
44:02You have it right there.
44:03Unique viewers, four.
44:05Max viewers, two.
44:06Average viewers, 0.3.
44:09This is Frank the Tank numbers back before we found it.
44:11No, I don't know if this is maybe, I assume this is not his primary way of-
44:16This is a hard thing for me to laugh at because he's trying.
44:19He's trying.
44:19I'm a Clemmer guy.
44:20He's doing something.
44:21I'm a Clemmer guy.
44:22Clemmer has given me no reason to like him.
44:24Every time I've been with him, he's drunk and yelling in my face.
44:26He was drunk then.
44:27But I like him.
44:28And then to see that, it's just like-
44:30I think it's more of a YouTube show.
44:32Oh, so the numbers on YouTube-
44:33Numbers are pretty good on YouTube.
44:34Oh, good.
44:34Then that's all right.
44:36I thought it was just Twitch.
44:37Yeah.
44:38I've not heard from Mike yet.
44:39I was waiting for confirmation, but I want the screenshot of it.
44:41Well, he's probably gone private.
44:44He's already in last place in the fantasy.
44:45Oh, there it is.
44:46There it is.
44:47There it is.
44:48That is unbelievable.
44:51Yeah.
44:52She's checking his stuff.
44:54Which, which, for her, I get that.
44:57A hundred percent.
44:57If I'm working and I'm grinding and you're not doing anything, I don't want you-
45:01She's raising the-
45:01Like, he is-
45:02She's working hard every day, coming home.
45:04He's there drunk.
45:05He's pathetic.
45:06Gambling drunk.
45:07He doesn't strike me as any redeeming.
45:09Like, you would get it if you look at this guy.
45:11Like, this guy's a 10.
45:12He came out last year, but maybe we do again a Saratoga.
45:15Like, I'm going to come up to Saratoga.
45:17Mutt comes up.
45:18We all hang.
45:19He's been to Saratoga, yeah.
45:20I like-
45:22I like Mutt.
45:24I know you do.
45:24We all love him.
45:25That's why.
45:25I know there's a job in here for him.
45:27Well, I don't know about that.
45:29Guy must be running really well right now.
45:31He's priming.
45:32He's going to go out this weekend.
45:33Train for the 5K.
45:36You guys feel good having it tonight?
45:40Dave, is there a legitimate chance that you brought back the stock market?
45:48According to this woman from CNN-
45:50I'll tell you, the people on the left and the right extremes are both so crazy.
45:54The right is-
45:55They are absolutely coming from my throat.
45:58The right's got you now.
45:59Oh, they're coming at me.
46:00You didn't want this smoke originally, right?
46:05No, I've never-
46:05I've always said, if I get invited on any other networks, I'd go.
46:10I've said that from the beginning.
46:11And they don't even listen to-
46:13My favorite one, somebody's like, you're such a pussy.
46:17You change your vote because of the economy?
46:20It's like, yeah, dude.
46:21That's what everyone-
46:21Yeah, I know.
46:22You don't have Americans should?
46:23Yeah, it's like, oh, if the economy tanks, you're going to vote Democrat.
46:27What a pussy.
46:28I do wonder, now things have kind of rebounded, but what does it take for the- we were talking
46:32about this, the extreme, extreme Trump crowd.
46:36What would it take for them to bail on him?
46:38Never.
46:38There's literally nothing, right?
46:39I think he could go up and shoot somebody in the head and he had it coming.
46:43By the way, I'd want those people.
46:45If I'm Trump, if I'm running-
46:47You want, like, gas.
46:48The diehards.
46:48Yeah, you need the person-
46:50Oh, you need that, like, 30%.
46:50Yeah, you need those people who are on, but, like, I've always said, I'm not just- I'm
46:56going to say what I think.
46:57I don't care.
46:58I don't care.
46:58But you won your vote permanently yesterday, though, Trump.
47:00Well, I am a huge water pressure guy.
47:02That's a big- that's a good move by Trump yesterday.
47:05That's a legit- that was a legit thing that was, like, the-
47:09The Biden-
47:09I guess Obama and Biden had, like, limited water pressure.
47:12What the fuck?
47:13So, because when you're at a hotel that's just dripping down, that was all presidentially
47:20related?
47:21I don't think that- I think- no.
47:24I think that because if it's dripping down, it's not even close, but, like, I want a concussion
47:28when I take a shot.
47:29Oh, yeah.
47:30Knock your hairpiece right off.
47:32Which our hotel doesn't have great showers.
47:33Horrible.
47:34So, I was waiting for the new-
47:36What is it called?
47:37What is it?
47:37It's a-
47:38Water pressure.
47:38No, but it's a name for it.
47:40Like, a mandate or something?
47:42You think it was happening yesterday?
47:43I thought right away.
47:44I thought they'd unclip something at the marionette.
47:46I don't really know how it works, but-
47:50Like, every hotel is, like, one switch.
47:52Like, get it going again.
47:53Yeah.
47:54Yeah.
47:55All right.
47:55Well, good luck tonight.
47:56Unless you guys have anything else.
47:57Do you have anything else?
47:57Well, I haven't seen the full-
47:59Everyone keeps telling me the Mikey Betts versus Frank blow up.
48:02Oh, crazy.
48:02I watched the whole thing on a walk.
48:04I was walking my son in a carriage, and I was like, oh, my God.
48:08This is not-
48:08I mean, people say this about me with my- or you.
48:11Last time-
48:12I was in Chicago a few times ago.
48:13I forget who it was.
48:14At the hotel, I watched Frankie yell at Mikey Betts and go into the hotel, and Mikey Betts
48:18was in the car, and I walked up to him.
48:20He was like, this fucking- I hate this fucking motherfucker.
48:22I fucking hate this fucking motherfucker.
48:23So, he treats him like shit?
48:25Shit!
48:26I mean-
48:27Do we have it?
48:32What was that?
48:34I mean-
48:35There's a fucking screen right there.
48:37I think-
48:37Well, hold on!
48:38Hold on!
48:39What I'm saying is that some people that work for you might feel similar.
48:44People feel that way about you?
48:45You?
48:46You don't-
48:46No.
48:47Fucking- fucking- Nikki Smokes is going to cost a couple of like $700 million.
48:50Like, oh, I can't fire him.
48:51I say one thing about Brianna Chicken Fry, and you call me on the phone, and you're like,
48:55you're a fucking cocksucker.
48:56Fuck you!
48:57You're a fucking asshole!
48:58You're fucking fired!
48:59Fuck you!
49:00And you don't do that to anybody?
49:02You like me.
49:04I love you, but that's-
49:05Yeah, so there's-
49:06I think there's people who have worked for you.
49:08Like, you had people running, again, wind sprints on a Saturday morning.
49:11You know, hot chip.
49:12It was on Memorial Day.
49:14We're trying to win a championship.
49:15Like, it's almost like if you-
49:17You can't-
49:18He can do that.
49:19You can't do that.
49:19If you-
49:20But if you were like, God, this Mikey Betts guy, like, how does he continue to work for
49:24this dude?
49:24It's like, that would be like, if all your guys, people came up to him and was like,
49:28how do you work for Kirk?
49:30I don't think I'm that bad.
49:32I really don't.
49:33I mean, I really don't.
49:33He doesn't fire people.
49:35I'm like, you.
49:35I can't-
49:36No, they all come back.
49:37I don't think so.
49:38You guys are actually very-
49:39Wait, the Coleman didn't come back?
49:44Coleman was-
49:45Coleman's around all the time.
49:45And then he's been begging to come back.
49:47Yeah, he wants back.
49:48Coleman is?
49:48Yeah, he wants back in.
49:49Yeah, like, shut up.
49:50Look what happened.
49:50These people-
49:51We were at the live show-
49:52Coleman wants back in.
49:53It's like battered husband-wife syndrome.
49:56Well, it's also, there's something very similar to Kirk's people, Rico's people, Jersey Jerry's
50:04people.
50:04These are the ice people.
50:06They're wanderers.
50:08They're looking-
50:08They found a home.
50:09They have found a home.
50:09They're Jehovah's Witnesses.
50:10They need a leader.
50:11Yeah, they're just, they're wandering around.
50:14It's what Charles Manson found.
50:15I don't think that's that.
50:15Correct.
50:16It's like ISIS.
50:16It's like how, these people are looking for a leader.
50:21I did a live show in New Hampshire last month.
50:23Justin and Coleman were there, my producers.
50:24Coleman was there.
50:25He was doing something for the show.
50:27Justin walked out of the room, and Coleman came out to me.
50:29He's like, do you think if Justin leaves, they're like, Coleman and I would be a good
50:32team together?
50:33Right in the back.
50:36And I was like, yep, I do.
50:38I think you guys would be.
50:39Oh, my God.
50:39But yeah, that was rough.
50:41He went and did case stuff recently, Dave, with Cullinane.
50:45Yeah, we were in Michigan.
50:47He rented a separate car from him.
50:49Didn't go to eat with him one time for three days.
50:52I don't mind.
50:52You would do the same thing.
50:53Yeah, I don't blame him on that.
50:55You wouldn't share a car with Austin?
50:59Austin's a lot more normal.
51:00Austin's pretty quiet.
51:02Yeah, like I have no, I would with Austin.
51:04I mean, we spend a lot of time.
51:05We don't do-
51:05Cullinane.
51:06Cullinane.
51:07Cullinane.
51:07Cullinane.
51:07Cullinane.
51:07Cullinane.
51:07Cullinane.
51:08Cullinane.
51:08Cullinane.
51:08Cullinane.
51:08And then I would literally be like, where's the next stop?
51:09And I'm like, 270 miles away.
51:12I'll meet you there in six hours.
51:14All back roads.
51:16I didn't see this.
51:16This is funny.
51:17Jake Malisek accidentally lights a thirst trap on Cullinane's IG.
51:21Well, I wonder how accidentally-
51:22I mean, that is hilarious.
51:24But I've actually had that person pop up on my-
51:31I had to change my algorithm.
51:32I was getting that juicy butt constantly on my algorithm.
51:36I wonder why.
51:37And then, well, I changed my algorithm.
51:39I was like, this is ridiculous.
51:40Well, how did it show up in the first place?
51:41No clue.
51:43Being a male on Instagram, they just kind of throw things your way, hoping you look at
51:48them, then they throw you some more.
51:49But you can't catch you to look at them.
51:50And then I changed my algorithm.
51:51I don't want to see these anymore.
51:52This is bad.
51:53But then you'll see one and you'll look at it.
51:54And then I see one and I have to change the algorithm again.
51:57This post I'm not interested in.
51:59So, I mean, I could see Coach seeing that big old booty and being like, it's just a quick
52:03double tap.
52:04We had our first, I've had my first Gruden, I've enjoyed it.
52:08Gruden's the best.
52:08Yeah, you know, Frankie made a good point.
52:10It is very, this is the first time I met him.
52:12It is, you look over and you're like, John Gruden's here.
52:14No, it's like, it's like White Sox Dave.
52:17Like, you know.
52:18Beef.
52:18Beef Gruden.
52:19John Gruden.
52:20It's perfect.
52:21Gruden was saying, or Jake was saying that Will Howard was, because he was kind of brutal
52:27for Ohio State.
52:28I know they won, but was he not?
52:29No, he had a good, he had a bad game against Michigan.
52:31Okay.
52:32That's it.
52:32Oh, okay.
52:33That's obviously a very big game.
52:34They were saying yesterday, this guy's going to be a stud.
52:36I didn't, I don't.
52:37Gruden is a Kool-Aid drinker of like quarterbacks.
52:41He just, he loves quarterbacks.
52:43So, you're saying he might say, oh, Joe could be good?
52:45No, he could be.
52:46I mean, listen, Gruden's a quarterback guy.
52:48He knows it.
52:49He's been right.
52:49He's been wrong.
52:50Um, I think that great, it's a great video for him.
52:53So, I mean, Gruden coached that guy up on the rap song.
52:57That was, that was hilarious.
52:59I mean, he's coaching, like they're going over like the two minute drill on like how
53:02to make his rap song better.
53:04Incredible clip.
53:05Yeah.
53:06Well, he's one of my guys.
53:07He's going to come through tonight.
53:08Very interested to see how this goes.
53:09We see off at six.
53:10$5,000 a person on the line.
53:12After the Masters.
53:13Well, the captains are in charge of who gets what money.
53:17So, performance based.
53:18So, you would, you would.
53:20That's not true, is it?
53:21I don't think it is.
53:22Somebody goes over three and they're not getting the same money that somebody gets who's going
53:25through.
53:25Absolutely not.
53:26You're going to Venmo someone a hundred bucks.
53:28Good job on the 17th poll.
53:29We'll talk about that offline, but I think that makes the most sense.
53:32Okay.
53:32I don't think that's the rule.
53:33Anything else?
53:34Nope.
53:35See you guys next week.
53:35Is everyone okay to do it next week?
53:37I know you're sensitive about it.
53:38I know you're scheduled.
53:39Actually, actually, I can't do next week.
53:41Why not?
53:42Long story.
53:44You just said at the beginning of the show that it's never happening.
53:46I know.
53:47Sorry.
53:47Okay.
53:48Great.
53:48Sorry, guys.