A fiery debate has erupted on GB News between host Martin Daubney and former Metropolitan Police officer Nusrit Mehtab over West Yorkshire Police's controversial recruitment policy.The force has sparked swathes of controversy following decision to temporarily halt applications from white British candidates - in an effort to boost diversity.FULL STORY HERE.
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00:00If a certain group isn't represented, whether it's females, whether it's minorities,
00:05policing will do everything to make that representation.
00:07Now, representation is important, Martin, because we need different experiences,
00:12different perspectives, diversity of thought, not just about...
00:16But we don't get diversity of thought if we make it down to only diversity of immutable characteristics,
00:24such as skin colour, ethnicity and sexuality.
00:27Here's a question for you, Nazareth.
00:28But if diversity and inclusion... Hang on a sec. Hang on a sec.
00:32If diversity and inclusion is... Hang on, please.
00:34If diversity and inclusion has been so successful over all the years we've had it,
00:39why are we only answering four out of ten burglaries?
00:42Why are eight out of ten shoppers just walking away?
00:44Why are the police wasting so much time policing tweets and not policing streets?
00:49Right. Well, there's a couple of questions in there.
00:51Let me answer the first one. I totally agree with you that policing has bigger issues to deal with
00:56than diversity, equality and inclusion.
00:59But that's what we're discussing today.
01:01They need to deal with other things.
01:03And we know that there's been a report from His Majesty's Inspectorate which says that police don't investigate crime
01:09because of inexperience, don't have the investigative mindset, poor training, poor supervision.
01:15That's another debate. We're here discussing what West Yorkshire are doing.
01:19Now, I don't... You know, you're... Obviously, the whistleblower is saying that they're grading people
01:24according to gold, silver and bronze.
01:26And if that is the case...
01:27White people are being screened out.
01:29How can you agree with that as somebody who's fought against racism?
01:32Is it impossible to be racist against white people?
01:35No, no. Let me make this quite clear.
01:37I don't agree with that.
01:38I've just said to you that if that's the case, then that needs to be investigated
01:40because there's something wrong in how they're doing that process.
01:43And is that an individual decided that they're going to, you know, create this new system?
01:48It happens in police forces all across the land.
01:50I hear it all the time.
01:52Right. But secondly, where is your evidence to say that these white officers
01:56have been prejudiced and discriminated?
02:00Racism becomes at the point that they have been prejudiced and discriminated.
02:04Now, from my understanding...
02:05That's the policy.
02:06That's literally the policy.
02:09To screen out white people.
02:11It's here in black and white.
02:12Pun intended.
02:14Positive action isn't illegal.
02:16Positive discrimination isn't.
02:18At the point of selection, if you're discriminating...
02:21What's the difference?
02:22Seriously, what's the difference between positive action and positive discrimination
02:26if it has the same output, less white people?
02:30Right.
02:30Well, does it have less white people?
02:31Because if these people that they've asked to do their targeting advertising on
02:37come through the door, but when we get to selection,
02:41actually, people are selected on merit and there is no discrimination.
02:45Let me tell you something.
02:46That would be great.
02:47Because I think that's all that most people care about.
02:50Yeah.
02:50But this isn't working for West Yorkshire because clearly they're investing millions of pounds.
02:55They've got a terrible crime-solving rate.
02:57They're one of the worst in Britain.
02:59They spend the most money on diversity, equality and inclusion in the entire country.
03:05They are the top of the woke league table.
03:07And their crime-solving rate is one of the worst.
03:10I put it to you.
03:11Perhaps the two things are connected.