15 mins of Heat! We recap yesterday's game as it was Ja Morant's first time in 4 years against the Miami Heat. Ja Morant did his gun celebration again… Tyler Herro proves to be more mature than Ja. Tobin blames Frogboy for yesterday's game winner, then continues to break down the final play and what led to the Heat loss.
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00:00Leroy, I'm sorry if I offended you.
00:03I was more offended that you didn't get the pigeon.
00:10I didn't.
00:11Hey.
00:12I will say, though.
00:13I will say.
00:14Here's a couple of situations where we're out or we're together and something will happen
00:20or somebody will say something and told me to look over at me and go, no, no, no, no.
00:30I will say, though, I didn't feel like it was just intangibles who didn't get it.
00:34I think there's a lot of people have never heard that reference before.
00:36Oh, really?
00:37Yeah.
00:38I was mostly intangibles, mostly intangibles, of course, right?
00:43But that's a movie.
00:46It's not one you hear a lot.
00:48It was it was it was a different one from John, for sure.
00:51But I will say I'm not going to see him play basketball in a while.
00:55He's good.
00:56He's good.
00:57But here's what I would say.
01:02And don't take this as I'm saying there that Tyler's better.
01:14He's different.
01:16He is more efficient, which fits what this team does better than having a guy who's going
01:22to be a volume shooter.
01:24Right.
01:26Well, I mean, Tyler is is a volume shooter, too, but they're they're different in, you
01:33know, Tyler actually has very, very great range because he's a great shooter.
01:37Right.
01:38So so when I say I would prefer Tyler.
01:44It's not because.
01:49He may or may not be better, but if they both make 30, both get 30 points.
01:56John's going to be more of a volume guy than Tyler.
01:58Can we talk about the real issue here, though, which is last night was on Marcos.
02:04He completely mushed the heat.
02:05No, no, no, no, no.
02:07You mush the heat via text.
02:08Oh, no.
02:09Yeah.
02:10Completely mushroom with with right after the band block.
02:14You got a little.
02:15What do I say?
02:16You should.
02:17Bam.
02:18They've just ended the job.
02:19A red tree.
02:20Don't remember acting like it was over.
02:24You counted your chickens.
02:26I, too.
02:27How can I even when you're down?
02:30You can see you completely mushed it.
02:33There's really mushed it to the bush, dude.
02:37You can't mush when you're already has this team proven anything that at the end of games
02:41you sit on your hands and shut your mouth until it's over.
02:45Everybody was completely.
02:46No, everybody was completely quiet on a group chat last night.
02:50And you're right, boy, pop, pop, pop, pop.
02:54You know why?
02:56The real person to blame here is John Moran's personal cheerleader.
03:00Oh, what?
03:01Oh, you know, you don't know if he was just strolling through the streets of South Florida.
03:05He just popped on his Odyssey app and listen to this guy just praising John Moran all day.
03:12Give me John Moran all day.
03:15He hadn't done that for you either.
03:18He could, though.
03:19He could, though.
03:20Couldn't he?
03:21Couldn't he?
03:22Let's not forget trading his boy.
03:25I am what I am, and I want John Moran, and by the way, you know, I just you trade a little
03:30job for Jeff.
03:31See, I got to talk about it.
03:38That's not a yes.
03:40Oh, my goodness.
03:42Oh, my goodness.
03:43You are arguably feel like their biggest need.
03:48Can I tell you what?
03:49Can I tell you one thing about him?
03:51Yeah.
03:52I haven't seen him play in a while.
03:53He's immature.
03:54Yes.
03:55Is that what I said?
03:56I'm not even talking about the finger guns thing.
04:06Is that me?
04:07Either.
04:08Is that not why I said I would prefer Tyler?
04:12Tyler may be more mature than him.
04:14Oh, yeah.
04:15Actually, I'm quite confident Tyler's more mature.
04:17Yeah.
04:18What is what is very important on this heat team?
04:21Maturity.
04:22Oh, yeah.
04:23Is it?
04:24Oh, yeah.
04:25Think of all the immature guys and how it worked with the heat.
04:31A little bit of heat culture.
04:35We have.
04:36OK, we could go Philly cheese.
04:39We can go.
04:40Who's the center?
04:41White side.
04:42White side.
04:43No.
04:44Right.
04:45Right.
04:46Think of how it like it becomes with with Spohr.
04:50It has nothing to do with the talent.
04:52He's like, I can't play with you, your wild card.
04:55His getting teed up was hilarious.
04:57I was like, why did he do that to Alec Burks?
05:00He needs to calm down again.
05:03Again.
05:04So you would rather have him on the team.
05:11Just just you've been around the heat long enough.
05:14How's that immaturity going to play out?
05:17Maybe being no, no, no, no, no.
05:19Here.
05:20Don't assume that he can fix it.
05:23Hmm.
05:24Don't you're making it.
05:26I'm basically going about what I have.
05:29And that immaturity thing is a big selling point.
05:35When not only me, but this organization, where we agree with that.
05:42Do you see that pogo stick that he's got, dude?
05:45I mean, he hops up like a kangaroo.
05:47Yep.
05:48How does he do that?
05:49He's so tiny.
05:50And then he swings at another player.
05:53Right.
05:56I mean, like it.
05:59And so you misunderstand this part of this whole conversation.
06:05I'm not saying he's not awesome.
06:08I'm just saying it would be hard for him to fit with the heat with how one of the things
06:17you could say about all the players they like, they're very mature.
06:21They handled themselves a certain way.
06:25So why would you sign up for something like that?
06:27What is maturity, though?
06:28You know, it's not kicking somebody in the nuts, not swinging at somebody, right?
06:37Not getting teched up every other game because you're not getting your way.
06:45Yeah.
06:46And then let's not talk about the ill-advised shots that he'll take.
06:53I mean, there are not many ill-advised shots that he takes, though.
06:58He carried their ass in the second, by the way, he did.
07:01By the way, Tyler did it.
07:03You know, he needed to get that bucket to get the heat, the tie.
07:06That was a great job, by the way.
07:11But I will say you may have a point on the thank you.
07:18I know that was hard for you, John Tyler backcourt defensively.
07:24Yeah.
07:25Do I don't know if that works defensively, do you really?
07:31It barely works.
07:33It barely works with off night is out there with Tyler.
07:39Don't you speak of off night?
07:40I love let me tell you.
07:41No, no, no, no, no.
07:43I'm saying that from the standpoint of you have one defensive guy and one guy who doesn't
07:50and they just keep running the spin cycle till Tyler has to guard somebody.
07:54I don't know what I was very curious about this because I got to give Davion Mitchell
07:58an extension in the offseason and I don't know what somebody of Davion Mitchell's ilk
08:03makes any more in the NBA because everybody makes a lot of money.
08:06But I love watching him play basketball.
08:10He is.
08:11It's almost like he is inspired Pella to go on the floor like they went on floor and said,
08:19hey, do what Davion does.
08:21Yeah.
08:22Yeah.
08:23It's like he is flying all over the place.
08:25And I love my favorite thing is the offensive fouls.
08:29He draws on screens like he does.
08:32Once a game, he got like three of them.
08:35Jaron Jackson Junior, that dummy.
08:37He's sitting here.
08:38I mean, he can't stop fouling people.
08:40But Davion Mitchell got him like twice.
08:42He's like, lured you in again, dumb, dumb, because he's going to fight through every
08:48screen and he always is able to make it like bang and the ref has to call him on it.
08:52And so he gets dudes in the foul trouble like crazy.
08:55And I just I mean, I am.
08:57I really like watching him play basketball.
08:59He's fun.
09:00Yeah.
09:02The thing is, is that and.
09:06It looks better, but I must say this.
09:13Because it's been a while since I saw Jimmy, you know, be Jim.
09:18But this style of basketball looks to fit all the other guys on the team.
09:26A little bit more.
09:28And it seems like more guys get involved and more guys get shots, even though your studs
09:34are still scoring their points.
09:37Because of the activity on the offensive end, because of the way they move the ball and,
09:44you know, bam and bam and Tyler, no.
09:47OK, I got to get this one again, though.
09:50I mean, like you do maybe have a couple of turnstiles at the top of the key with John
09:54Tyler.
09:55But then you got a lot of pterodactyls behind him.
09:57All right.
09:58With maybe it could work.
10:00I don't know.
10:01I mean, maybe it could work.
10:02No, no, no.
10:03I mean, don't say no.
10:05We don't know that it couldn't work.
10:07It couldn't.
10:08I don't think that I don't think that we don't know that.
10:11OK.
10:12OK.
10:13OK.
10:14OK.
10:15Marcos.
10:16Yep.
10:17I almost cussed.
10:19Yep.
10:20I almost cussed.
10:21I saw you.
10:22I saw you.
10:23Because I can't believe this dude less than five minutes ago apologized to me because
10:32you may be right.
10:33And five minutes later, try to then turn around and sell it again.
10:38First of all, you said don't oversell what I said.
10:41I didn't apologize.
10:42I said maybe you had a point.
10:44I was trying to be a grown up and give you a little a little kudos.
10:48I didn't apologize.
10:49You know what you did?
10:50You went right through the red light.
10:51You went right through the red light.
10:52You didn't even pause.
10:53No, no.
10:54You went right through the red light because you said what you said, and then you went
10:58back to your previous conversation.
10:59Just be clear.
11:00Just be clear.
11:01If I'm sitting here in July and I have Tyler Herro and Jon Morant, we have the greatest
11:04backcourt in the NBA.
11:05Wow.
11:06OK.
11:07So he didn't apologize.
11:08No.
11:09All right.
11:10OK.
11:11Thought you.
11:12I felt like you did.
11:14I felt right.
11:15Right.
11:16Yeah.
11:17Right.
11:18Yeah.
11:19I just want to be like, wow.
11:20I say, let's chalk this one up.
11:21Yeah.
11:22Oh, did you think I was mature?
11:23Friday, April 4th, 2025, on the day of our Lord, during Lent, told me to apologize.
11:30And then you go, no, no, that's not what I did.
11:33Got a pigeon on that take.
11:38First of all, first of all, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
11:43no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
11:46No.
11:47Bad radio host.
11:48No.
11:49I want to hit you with the paper.
11:50Right.
11:51Huge game winner.
11:52Take me through what you saw on that final possession.
11:56A pigeon guard me.
11:59OK.
12:00Oh, so Margo.
12:02Right.
12:03With John said it.
12:06It sounded so much different.
12:08Yeah.
12:13Can you use pigeon in the sentence?
12:15You ever like have like your dog, which you confuse.
12:17Like when I looked at, like, when I looked at Twitter and I saw
12:20that, cause I didn't hear it live.
12:21I was walking down to the media room and like, I look, I'm
12:24like, and then I'm just like, all right.
12:29Intangibles.
12:30I'm going to start.
12:30I'm going to reach out.
12:34Like, wait, why did you have to put in parentheses
12:38intangibles here?
12:41The visual though.
12:42I did imagine him like,
12:45excuse me.
12:47Bam.
12:48Bam.
12:49Bam.
12:50H.
12:52Who's the phrase pigeon me?
12:54I was not asking, asking for a friend.
13:00What does this mean?
13:01That's a good call though.
13:02Cause it's risky.
13:03You never know.
13:04It's risky.
13:04You could have got a slight outburst.
13:07What the hell did he just say?
13:10Right?
13:11I mean, that would be like asking Drake about not like us.
13:20I'm sure.
13:21Well, listen, you know, based on Colell's response afterwards,
13:25I think he probably saw those comments.
13:27Anyway, he's like, yeah, but, but he's saying lucky shot on it.
13:31Here's the thing was a lucky shot.
13:34He played good defense.
13:37He did and got beat by a better shot over a seven footer.
13:43He stayed in front of him.
13:45He didn't go around him and I was hoping that job would have got
13:51around him and he could do that Bach, you know what I mean?
13:53Yep, but he stayed in front of him.
13:58I mean, like, yeah, it happens.
14:00Like, but Nick T says, if he said Flamingo or ostrich, it would have
14:04made more sense and I should be terrible.
14:09If he said Flamingo, it would fit, you know, he vice.
14:14Yeah.
14:14Right.
14:17Crazy mingo in front of me, but I mean, where I said the best, like
14:22the thing about basketball players, they don't get caught up in that
14:27one, you know, I got beat one time, right.
14:32And because like good offense, what did they say?
14:35Good offense is always going to be good defense.
14:37They do say that.
14:38So I was impressed that he stayed in front of him.
14:42I was impressed how he played and it's unfortunate that we're still
14:46going to look at that moment as job beat, you know, somebody said, uh,
14:54should have had bam on it.
14:55Somebody said, uh, should have had bam on it.
14:57I mean, they, he said yesterday, I saw the club where, uh, he told, uh, Alex
15:02Leo from, from five years, I saw on, on his Twitter, he said that they came
15:06out of the timeout and he's like, I'm getting the switch.
15:09There's two people who are not going to be on me.
15:12Davion Mitchell and bam on a bio.
15:14Right.
15:15Like, so, you know, they have plans to now the heat, like suppose that like
15:21you typically bring some help as that's all developing because you
15:25don't, you don't want to leave a Colelle out there on an Island, but
15:28he made a great shot, man.
15:29Great.
15:30Lucky, whatever.
15:31Cheated a little bit.
15:32I was, I was a little, I was a little flummoxed because if I take and put
15:38the ball in Tyler's hands on the other end, when he gets to the top of
15:42that key, they rush him.
15:45And I was a little shocked that they didn't do that because if you had
15:51Colelle in front of him and you rushed him with bam or even Tyler, that's
15:56a lot of size in front of him.
15:58He may not even be able to see anywhere to throw a pass.
16:01Well, Tyler got in his game tire.
16:04What did he had Pippen on him?
16:05And he got through and like three grizzlies were just staring at him and
16:08he hits that baby float.
16:09Like it's, it's a pretty, I mean, right.
16:11He's so money with that shot.
16:13I'm, I'm, I was a little shocked that just watching the play, you know,
16:20develop that nobody was even looking to do.
16:26Like, it's like everybody was happy with where they were in that point in
16:29the game.
16:30Like the heat seemed like we got Colelle.
16:32We're okay.
16:33We can deal.
16:34We can handle that.
16:35They were like, oh, we got Colelle in front of us.
16:38We can deal with that.
16:39Did you, everybody seemed to be happy.
16:41Otherwise you would have blitzed.
16:43Yeah.
16:43Did you, uh, outside of the end of the game when they got back from the
16:4880 run and Colelle had the block and then the three, did you get the
16:51goosies?
16:52I did because you know, you know, are saying respectfully.
16:57Oh yeah.
16:59Oh, you better believe I was like, huh?
17:04We couldn't use this the first month of the season.
17:07Huh?
17:08He's like, you think, just imagine if this development had happened after
17:14game 25, I picture us at a game 60.
17:18I picture us in 15 years doing a radio show at suppose hall of fame
17:21enshrinement.
17:22And, and Leroy's going to be like, and here he is.
17:26Four-time champion.
17:27Eric Spolstra.
17:29Welcome to the hall of fame.
17:30Be like, uh, didn't play the first 29 games.
17:35Oh, respectfully.
17:37Respectfully.
17:38Congrats.
17:39Straight.