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00:00Europe, you are obviously correct, it's a collective of about, you know, 27 odd countries,
00:07but they seem to be speaking with more of one voice these days than perhaps they have
00:13in the past.
00:14Is it not the case that perhaps with the US abandoning its traditional alliances, it's
00:20forcing Europe to become stronger together?
00:22I'd just say very quickly, no.
00:24The exact opposite.
00:25You're going to have huge collective action problems, right?
00:29And the United States solved those collective action problems in large part.
00:34And the second point I would make, and I would be curious to know what Sergei thinks about
00:40this.
00:41I do not think Russia is a serious threat to overrun all of Ukraine, much less overrun
00:47all of Europe.
00:48And I think most Europeans, at least most people in the public, understand that Russia
00:53is not a great threat.
00:55So you don't have an external threat that can hold the Europeans together, that can
01:01solve the centrifugal force problem.
01:04So I think if you take away the Americans and you don't have a serious Russian threat
01:10to Europe, the Europeans are going to squabble among themselves.

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