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00:00is that the Russians recognize only America as being their equal.
00:06So from a certain point of view, it's very good in the interest of peace
00:12that the Americans say to Russia,
00:14yes, you are a great country, you are very important,
00:17we have agreed to reach a deal.
00:19Because from a European point of view,
00:22the European Union looks, you know, commercial thing,
00:25small country, not at the same level.
00:28They don't like NATO but they respect NATO.
00:31On the other hand, they don't seem to respect very much the European Union
00:34because if we follow what is happening apparently,
00:38is that Russia is opposed to Ukraine joining NATO
00:43and I think it will never join NATO as a matter of fact.
00:47But on the other hand, it seems that joining the European Union is all right.
00:51So, you know, it's really something completely new.