Karnataka has introduced a new garbage tax for Bengaluru residents. The Bruhat Bengaluru Mahanagara Palike (BBMP) has decided to charge property owners based on plot size, with a 1200 square feet plot paying around 400 rupees per year.
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00:00We have some news just coming in. Forget Trump. It's Siddharamaiah's tariff on a garbage tax in Karnataka.
00:07Bengaluru to pay for waste recycler.
00:10New day, new tariff in Karnataka.
00:12After hike in milk and water power, pay for garbage collection in Bengaluru.
00:17Pay hike for Netas. Price hike for Janata.
00:23The government now plans to impose a garbage tax in the state of Karnataka, is what we are learning.
00:31It's yet another attempt to in fact increase taxes on essential commodities and essential work,
00:38which is garbage collection and recycling.
00:41A tax is going to be taken, levying on the consumer.
00:46It's some sort of a garbage tax now in the state of Karnataka.
00:51Bengaluru to pay for waste recycle.
00:55Adding in the list of new tariffs and new hikes, this is another one.
01:00It's a tax for waste recycle. New tariff in Karnataka at this point in time.
01:09After hike in milk, water, power, now Bengalurians will be paying for garbage recycle as well.
01:18A tax for garbage recycle in the state of Karnataka, in the city of Bengaluru.
01:30BBMP to collect user fee for waste collection.
01:34Artificial intelligence to detect illegalities, is what we are learning.
01:40It's a garbage tax that's going to be levied on the people.
01:48BJP's S. Prakash is with us for the very latest on that and his perspective.
01:55How do you respond to this new tax that is going to be levied on people living in Bengaluru?
02:01Essentially garbage tax.
02:03Please the general public, especially the Bengalurians, garbage is not clear on the streets.
02:14Litter is everywhere. However, every time they increase the garbage collection.
02:20This is one more test only to fill their coffers.
02:24All illogical projects have been launched, they have no finance for it, but still they want to go ahead with it.
02:30Now the people of Bengaluru are being burdened.
02:33Electricity charges are increased from today. Milk prices have been increased today.
02:38And now the garbage tax is also being imposed on the people of Bengaluru.
02:43The middle class and the poor are seriously hit by this Congress government governance.
02:48How would you raise this with the Congress government in the state?
02:53From tomorrow, we are holding a day and night dharana against the price hike.
02:59Our state president Mr. Vijendra will be leading the protest.
03:03All the MLAs and the district office bearers will be taking part.
03:07Thousands of people will be sitting on dharana overnight in Bangalore.
03:12We will take this to the logical end.
03:15Okay. Alright, I'm going to thank you for joining in.
03:17A protest by the Bharatiya Janata Party is what S.Prakash, spokesperson of the party in the state of Karnataka is telling us.
03:25It's garbage tax that's going to be imposed on the people.
03:28Of course, it's going to burden the people even furthermore.
03:31Remember, pay hike has been given for netas.
03:34But price hike for the janata, this is in fact a new tax that the BBMP is imposing, is what we know.
03:42It's a user fee for waste collection that the BBMP would be imposing in the city of Bengaluru.
03:54The BJP says they will be opposing this tooth and nail.
03:57The Bruhath Bengaluru Mahanagara Palike announcing the introduction of a user fee for solid waste management.
04:06Akshita is getting in more details on that story that we are tracking very closely.
04:11Akshita, undoubtedly this will be burdening the common man even further, isn't it?
04:16After the recent hikes in power and water charges as well.
04:20Very, very true, Sneha.
04:22This is a move that is started by now the BBMP, which is a civic body in Bengaluru.
04:26Mind you, other cities do have a garbage tax.
04:29But the timing of this announcement, considering a series of hikes in water and milk prices and what not,
04:36the fact that this has also now been announced by the BBMP,
04:39has led to a lot of people questioning what exactly the priority is of the Sidramayya government.
04:44These charges are being fixed essentially based on the building area.
04:48So essentially what you're going to see is, based on the size of the building, that much of garbage tax.
04:54So we won't pinch the people of Karnataka, but it's the messaging really involved here,
04:58that the Karnataka authorities, that the civic authorities, the government,
05:02all one after another are announcing one hike in rates after another.
05:07And together, you will see that essentially all of this money is being charged from the people of Bengaluru,
05:12from the people of Karnataka.
05:14That's right. Akshita, I'm going to thank you for getting in those details at this point in time.
05:18My colleague, Saghay, also with us.
05:20We just in fact spoke to the Bharatiya Janata Party spokesperson S. Prakash,
05:23who says that tomorrow they're going to have an extensive campaign
05:27against price hike of essential commodities and services now, like garbage collection.
05:32Absolutely. BJP is going to protest against the price hikes in the state of Karnataka,
05:37talking about water, talking about electricity and milk,
05:41where the government is contemplating to increase the water prices also.
05:45But the electricity price as well as the milk price will be increased from today.
05:49And what you also get to learn is even the garbage tax will be implemented from today on the property tax.
05:55Compared to milk and electricity, garbage tax is very minuscule.
05:59The people are more pinched and more worried about the prices,
06:02which have been increased on electricity as well as milk,
06:06where they have to pay four rupees more per litre for milk in Bengaluru.
06:12What is the Congress government saying? How are they justifying all of this?
06:16These are essential services. And at a time when pay hikes are being given to MLAs,
06:20this kind of a tax is being imposed on people.
06:23The government has justified stating that it has been a long time that they have not increased the prices
06:29of these basic amenities to the people of Karnataka.
06:34Talking about the milk, they are claiming that the surcharges,
06:39the four rupees increase which has been done, it will directly go to the farmers.
06:43Not even one rupee will reach to the government.
06:47Whereas the Karnataka Electricity Board had given a clarification saying that it is an autonomous body.
06:53Across the country, you have an autonomous body.
06:55That particular autonomous body takes the decision that when they have to increase
06:59and how they are going to implement.
07:01And subsequently, the increase of prices will be done by the autonomous body.
07:06And that's how it has been decided.
07:08And they have washed their hands stating that they have no decision in increasing the prices.
07:15Whereas when it comes to garbage taxes, if you notice that it has been implemented across the country,
07:21including BMC, even in Maharashtra.
07:23So when you are talking about milk and electricity,
07:26the garbage tax which has been implemented in the property tax is very minuscule.
07:31Essentially, it's going to be a user fee.
07:34Take us to the details of how much are they going to be charging.
07:38And in totality, the last few weeks or so, I have seen an increase in prices of so many essential commodities.
07:45Take us to the details of the kind of hikes that essential commodities and services have seen.
07:52So if you notice, the prices of bus fare has already been increased.
07:56Electric prices will be increased from today where they will be charging 3 paise per unit.
08:02There will be increasing 3 paise per unit.
08:05And whereas when it comes to milk, people have to shell out a fourth piece more.
08:10And this was a promise which was made by Karnataka Congress in their manifesto.
08:14And they had stated that they will increase the prices and they will give the prices directly to the farmers.
08:19Even now the government claims that the prices which will be increased will go to the farmers directly.
08:24It is not going to the government or government's treasury.
08:27It is to the farmers where the farmers will receive the funds.
08:31And they have also justified saying that it is a cooperative society which handles the prices
08:35and handles the milk production in the state of Karnataka.
08:39So the farmers are struggling.
08:41Everything including the fodder to the cows and other things have been increased.
08:46Whereas the income which has been generated through selling milk has been reduced.
08:52So that is the reason they have justified stating that they are increasing.
08:55And that is the reason why the prices will go to the farmers.
09:25Waqf Topa, Waqf tool to grab land, government land, Waqf hub of personal land grab.
09:32All reforms habitually opposed says Yogi Adityanath.
09:56But I would like to ask the people who are doing this,
10:01if they have done any such work through Waqf World which is of welfare.
10:06Forget about the society.
10:10If they have done any good for the Muslim society.
10:18These are the pits of selfishness of the people.
10:22These are the pits of greed for a few people.
10:26It is a means of forcibly occupying any government property.
10:32And reform is the demand of this time.
10:36Every reform is opposed.
10:39But according to the country, time and situation we should be ready for such reforms.
10:46And I think the benefit of this will be for the Muslim society too.
10:51And because of this, many times the problem of law and order arises.
10:56People will get freedom from that too.
11:00Did you?
11:04Just getting in more details on that story at this point in time.
11:07Yogi Adityanath there speaking about the Waqf and the necessity for such a bill at this point in time.
11:13A lot has been said about the fact that it's encouraged corruption to a great level.
11:18And also land grab.
11:20And that's the reason why this bill is important.
11:24Well certainly Sneha we are now seeing as to how Chief Minister of Uttar Pradesh Yogi Adityanath
11:28has come out in open support of a Waqf Amendment Bill.
11:31This has come at a time when the Union Government is all set to bring the Waqf Amendment Bill in Lok Sabha.
11:38Most likely tomorrow this bill will be brought for passing and discussion.
11:42Remember that Yogi Adityanath has also gone on to say that Waqf has become a den of loot.
11:49Through this, many government properties are being usurped.
11:53And it's very important to bring reforms.
11:56He's also saying that whenever anything good happens, the opposition parties oppose this.
12:02But it's very important to bring reforms so that the problems can be solved.
12:10He's also said that it is going to give benefit to a lot of poor Muslim women.
12:15People from the Muslim community are also going to be benefited if this Waqf Amendment Bill is passed.
12:21We'll have to wait and watch how the other opposition parties are going to react to this big statement
12:26coming in from Chief Minister of Uttar Pradesh Yogi Adityanath.
12:29Alright, I'm going to thank you for getting in those details as Piyush Mishra at this point in time
12:33about the statement of Yogi Adityanath on the Waqf Bill.
12:39Waqf War gets abusive and personal. Congress MP abuses Ajmer Dargah Chief.
12:53Ajmer Dargah head bats for Waqf reforms.
12:57Congress MP takes a Dalali jibe at Ajmer Dargah Chief.
13:01He faces abuse because of the position he had taken.
13:10Waqf War getting abusive and personal.
13:13Congress MP abusing the Ajmer Dargah Chief is spoken first to India today.
13:18And spoken about the fact that the Waqf Bill is in need of the hour.
13:23MP from the Congress has taken a Dalali jibe at Ajmer Dargah Chief.
13:29MP from the Congress party taking a Dalali jibe at Ajmer Dargah Chief.
13:59Apologies for that.
14:01The Dargah Chief had backed the Waqf Bill and is now facing abuses.
14:06While speaking to us he had said that this Bill is in need of the hour
14:12and it needs to be handled in a more professional fashion is what he had said.
14:19Waqf property needs to be handled more professionally
14:22and that corruption needs to be uprooted is what he had said.
14:26And that's the reason why there should be no opposition to the Waqf Bill
14:29is what the Dargah Chief had told us.
14:32However, the Congress MP there essentially getting upset
14:37with what had been said by Ajmer Dargah Chief
14:41talking about the fact that he is a middleman.
14:46Dalal is the word that he has used for him.
14:49The Congress MP taking a jibe.
14:52This is what Ajmer Dargah Chief had told us yesterday.
15:23Waqf is used in the name of Allah.
15:27If there is no Waqf, then this property should be used for the poor,
15:32orphans and for the upliftment of the community.
15:35Today, which Waqf Board is running a welfare scheme?
15:39Today, which Waqf Board is running a school?
15:41Today, which Waqf Board is running a college?
15:43Today, which Waqf Board is running a hospital?
15:45It's not running anywhere.
15:47So what does Waqf mean? Where is the money going?
15:49Some people have made a gang in the whole country
15:52and they are doing all the work.
15:54The employees of the Waqf Board are never transferred.
15:56You tell me, the state employees of the Waqf Board
15:59will stay in the same post all their life and will retire from there.
16:02There is no transferable post.
16:04So corruption will increase.
16:08Alright, you heard there from the Ajmer Dargah Chief
16:10they are talking about the fact that
16:12the Waqf Bill is in need of the hour.
16:15And that there needs to be a clean-up that has to be done.
16:18And that's the reason why this bill is important.
16:22The Congress has gone all guns blazing against him.
16:24The MP from the Congress Party from Saharanpur
16:27says that this is not right
16:29and the Dargah Chief is nothing but a Dalal, quote unquote.
16:34This is what he said.
16:38Ashutosh is with us for the very latest on that.
16:41Ashutosh, in fact, a voice of reason from a religious leader there
16:45talking about the fact that why not clean this up?
16:48Why isn't the bill important?
16:50Or why should the bill not be brought about?
16:52He has listed various reasons when he spoke with us.
16:55But the Congress now is abusing him.
16:58Well, as we see the showdown between the opposition
17:01and the government particularly.
17:02Yesterday you heard Kiran Mir, you were saying
17:04the opposition is actually misguiding.
17:06Whereas what we are hearing, I just spoke to Imran Masood,
17:08he says that certain rights of the Muslim community
17:11have been protected by the constitution.
17:13Many provisions of the Bakht Bill Amendment
17:15are actually overlapping the constitution.
17:17Even he said that if it does not have a majority,
17:20we will fight out in the court.
17:22But taking on the statements that support the Bakht Board,
17:25which is Syed Nasruddin Chishti from Ajmer Dargah,
17:30he says that since it is being done after due deliberations,
17:34he supports this has literally broken up by the war of words
17:38when Imran Masood says that who is he, what stake he has,
17:41he is not representing the Muslim community.
17:43And at the extent that Imran Masood says,
17:45that he gets two crore rupees from the government
17:47and he is a BJP agent, he is a BJP Dalal.
17:49That kind of war of words on this particular issue.
17:52So clearly looks like the battle that is being drawn
17:55between the government and the opposition
17:57as far as the Bakht Amendment Bill is concerned.
17:59Subsequently, we have seen the Vishu Council from Kerala
18:01also supporting.
18:02That is also being questioned by certain politicians,
18:05including Imran Masood, who says that today it has happened
18:07with the Muslim community where the government is eyeing
18:09actually on the properties belonging to the religious bodies.
18:12So today it is with the Muslims,
18:13tomorrow it will be with the Catholics as well.
18:15And soon will be after the large temples,
18:18the renowned temples who also have a large chunk of the properties.
18:25Alright, Ashutosh Bishra getting in those details
18:28as far as the reaction there from the Congress Party
18:31and the politics over the Bakht Bill is concerned.
18:33Bakht Bill to be presented in Lok Sabha on the 2nd of April.
18:42The much anticipated Bakht Bill is set to be presented in Parliament
18:46marking a significant legislative development.
18:49It aims to reform the administration of Bakht properties,
18:52spark fierce debates.
18:53Uttar Pradesh CM, Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath
18:57slammed the Bakht Board.
18:58He said that the Bakht had done, not done
19:02any welfare to Muslims.
19:03It's a centre of personal selfishness.
19:05He said that Bakht was a medium to possibly occupy government property
19:09and reforms were needed at the earliest.
19:11Earlier on Monday, BJP accused some political parties
19:15and organisations of trying to create unrest
19:18and mislead the people about Bakht provisions.
19:21As per sources, senior BJP ministers are expected
19:24to hold discussions with India bloc leaders
19:27before the bill is presented in Parliament
19:29to ensure smooth passage.
19:30In spite of the government's assurances,
19:32opposition parties have vowed to resist the Bakht Bill
19:36calling it a direct attack on the constitution.
19:39Amit Desh, JDU has cautioned the centre
19:41against implementing the new law retrospectively
19:43stressing that existing mosques, dargahs
19:46and other Muslim religion sites should not be interfered with.
19:50Not just NDA, many MPs of Indi Ghatbandhan
19:57are asking me to bring the Bakht Bill soon.
20:00They have created a narrative.
20:02Some MPs are afraid of their leaders,
20:04so they are not saying anything.
20:06So, if mafia and some influential leaders
20:09have occupied the Bakht property,
20:12then everyone opposes it.
20:14That is why NDA and Indi Ghatbandhan are of no use.
20:18Everyone wants the Bakht Bill to be brought soon
20:22so that Muslims can benefit from it.
20:27Everyone wants it, not just a few political parties.
20:30In the past few days,
20:32I have received very disturbing news
20:35of misleading and spreading lies.
20:39Some of the specific things I want to tell
20:43that some people are saying
20:45that this Bakht Amendment Bill is unconstitutional.
20:48This Bakht rule, this Bakht provisions,
20:52these were in existence before independence.
20:56How can the Bakht Act be illegal
20:59if it was in existence before the independence?
21:02So, please don't mislead.
21:04It is welcome.
21:06Any sensible person or organization
21:09will understand that the Bakht Amendment Bill
21:12is going to worry the poor Muslims.
21:15It is going to worry the poor Muslim women,
21:18the poor Muslim children.
21:20Because of the Bakht Act,
21:23some people have occupied the Bakht property
21:26and are using it for their personal use
21:29or for their business.
21:31The government's intention is
21:33that the poor Muslims can benefit from it.
21:36They can use the money they get from it
21:39to help the poor.
21:41Can't the government see that
21:4499.9% of the Muslims in the country
21:47are opposing it?
21:49Can't the government see that
21:52the entire opposition is against it?
21:55Can't the government see that
21:58Muslims are continuously protesting?
22:01Do you want to prove that
22:04the Bakht Act you are bringing is correct?
22:09The Bakht Bill has so many contentious issues.
22:13Opposition parties are taking it up
22:16inside and outside parliament.
22:19The core purpose of this bill
22:23is to target the minority community.
22:27At this time, it is the Muslim minority.
22:32Of course, there are other issues
22:36with the Bakht property, land
22:39and people are staying there for years.
22:41Those things will have to be examined.
22:45Justice cannot be denied to anyone.
22:48Injustice cannot be done to anyone.
22:51The government is all set to table
22:53the Bakht Amendment Bill in Lok Sabha
22:55on the 2nd of April.
22:56With this, the government is also confident
22:58of numbers in Lok Sabha.
23:00However, the opposition,
23:01especially the Samajwadi Party,
23:03has said it will oppose the bill in Lok Sabha.
23:05Meanwhile, Ajmer Dargah Chief
23:07was batted for the Bakht Amendment Bill.
23:09It also has received support
23:11from the Kerala Catholic Bishops Council.
23:26Stage set for a mega showdown
23:28in parliament over the Bakht Bill.
23:30As the controversial Bakht Amendment Bill
23:33is all set to be tabled in Lok Sabha,
23:36the introduction of the bill,
23:38likely on Wednesday,
23:39will be a test of numbers for the centre.
23:42Since key NDA allies have assured
23:45the Muslim community
23:46that its interests will be safeguarded.
23:49The government claims that it is confident
23:52of the numbers in Lok Sabha,
23:54despite BJP lacking numbers on its own.
23:57In large numbers, the Maulana is also helping.
24:01The All India Muslim Personal Law Board
24:04has invited the entire country
24:06to wear a black band on Eid.
24:08Why?
24:09Eid means that we are all talking
24:11about the development of all.
24:15Opposition India Bloc has vowed
24:17to stall the Bakht Bill in parliament
24:19using all means.
24:21What is the stand of the TDP on the Bakht Bill?
24:24What is the stand of the JDU?
24:26Not just the Congress Party,
24:27but the Samajwadi, TMC,
24:28Aam Aadmi Party, Aam Panti,
24:29everyone is against it.
24:31Because the Waqf is a direct attack
24:33on our constitution.
24:36We will request Modi ji
24:38not to give any benefits to Muslims.
24:40The benefit will be that the rights
24:42that you have got in the constitution,
24:44the rights should be given to Muslims.
24:47The centre got some crucial minority
24:49backing for Waqf reforms.
24:52The Ajmer Dargachi battled for
24:54Waqf Amendment Bill,
24:56saying that the time has come for reforms.
24:59He said Waqf Board's functioning
25:01is no longer transparent.
25:04Waqf needs amendments.
25:06Waqf doesn't mean that people
25:08will say that mosques will be snatched,
25:10banks will be snatched,
25:11graveyard will be snatched.
25:12This is wrong.
25:13The government has given this bill
25:14to JPC.
25:15JPC has listened to everyone patiently.
25:16And after that,
25:17they will go to present this bill.
25:18I am sure that after this bill comes,
25:20transparency will come in the matter of Waqf
25:22and its property will be protected.
25:26The bill also received support
25:28from the Kerala Catholic Bishops' Council.
25:30The body asked MPs from Kerala
25:32to vote in favour of the Waqf Bill,
25:34saying Christians are also victims
25:36of Waqf land grab.
25:39BJP hailed the Catholic body.
25:42This is a very big thing.
25:43Because the Catholic Council studied it well.
25:46Some MPs, some political parties,
25:48like the Congress Party and some people,
25:50want to mislead Muslims
25:52and make them vote bank.
25:54That's why they are opposing.
25:57In Kerala,
25:58in a place called Munambam near Cochin,
26:00hundreds of families,
26:02poor families,
26:04are having the threat of their land
26:06being seized by the Waqf hang on their heads.
26:08The MPs of Kerala
26:10did what is their duty to do,
26:12which is to help people who are in trouble,
26:14help people and solve their problems
26:16rather than only play appeasement politics.
26:20Meanwhile, Muslim Namazis
26:22during Eid prayers in Delhi and Bhopal
26:24wore black armbands
26:26to register protest
26:28against the Waqf Bill.
26:30If they enter the government,
26:32then they will enter the state government.
26:34Then they can do anything
26:36about the land.
26:38That's why we are opposing this bill.
26:40This is our peaceful protest against the bill.
26:42This is a religious attack.
26:44It is a conspiracy to seize their property.
26:46That's why people are considering it
26:48a black law.
26:50We are protesting against it.
26:52We want it back.
26:54There should be no change
26:56in our Waqf.
27:00Stand by allies like TDP and JDU
27:02may seal the bill's fate in Parliament.
27:04With Piyush Mishra,
27:06Bureau Report, India Today.
27:20I was picked as
27:22Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister by the BJP.
27:24I am a Yogi.
27:26Politics is not my full-time job.
27:28Time limit for me in politics.
27:30Yogi has spoken
27:32on the clamour for him to succeed
27:34Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
27:50Politics is not my full-time job.
27:56We are working here.
27:58But I am a Yogi.
28:04We are working
28:06as long as we can.
28:10How long will you work?
28:12There will be a time limit.
28:14You answered my previous question
28:16that this is not my full-time job.
28:18That is why I said so.
28:48Yogi should lead from the front
28:50and become the face of the Prime Minister.
28:52That is why this question
28:54has come to the fore.
28:56He was asked about
28:58his Prime Minister ambitions.
29:00He has made it very clear
29:02that he is going to fulfil his duty
29:04as the Chief Minister of Uttar Pradesh.
29:06At the same time,
29:08Yogi has gone on to say
29:10that there is a limit to everything.
29:12At the end of the day,
29:14he is a Yogi.
29:16He is not saying anything
29:18about his Prime Minister ambitions.
29:20But yes, there is a growing clamour
29:22within the party where
29:24multiple voices have emerged
29:26that Yogi should go to Delhi
29:28a couple of days back.
29:30BJP's own MLA
29:32in front of Keshav Prasad Maurya
29:34said that Yogi should go to Delhi
29:36and Keshav Prasad Maurya
29:38should lead the party
29:40in Uttar Pradesh.
29:42On these voices,
29:44those have come out.
29:46On that particular front,
29:48Yogi has responded
29:50saying that there is always
29:52a time limit to something
29:54because at the end of the day
29:56he is a Yogi.
29:58But as of now,
30:00he has been given the responsibility
30:02of Chief Minister of Uttar Pradesh
30:04which he is fulfilling.
30:12As far as Prime Minister Modi is concerned,
30:14he has clarified on what his
30:16political ambitions are.
30:18Essentially, he is saying that these are
30:20limited is what he said.
30:22It's time for a quick break but we are leaving you
30:24with this report on Anand Ambani.
30:26On a Padyatra of faith,
30:28son of business tycoon
30:30Mukesh Ambani, on a foot march
30:32of 140 km to reach
30:34Dwarkadheesh temple from Jamnagar
30:36to celebrate his birthday at the temple.
30:38Today marks the fourth day
30:40of his journey. Ambani chanting
30:42Ambe Gauri as he walks to the
30:44Dwarkadheesh temple.
30:46Devotees and local residents have gathered
30:48security personnel ensuring a smooth passage
30:50for Ambani on his journey.
31:10Ambani chanting
31:12Ambani chanting
31:14Ambani chanting
31:16Ambani chanting
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36:18bought the land and for the last 35 years with all the records, with all the documents, with all the
36:25tax, everything given they were, they had the title of it and for the last three years
36:32they are no more able to exercise their revenue rights and they are suffering a lot. 610
36:42families are suffering just because of the claim made by the WACF board based on the WACF Act.
36:55For certain the land is theirs but you see in 2009 the WACF board ordered it to be the land of
37:10WACF and in 2019 it was taken into the registry of the WACF and in 2022
37:21they were deprived of their revenue rights without giving them any notice,
37:29without any prior information, without asking their opinion, without asking
37:38them to show their documents. They all have perfect documents which the government has provided
37:45and they are being paying taxes. This situation is disgusting, this situation is really pitiful
37:56and that too based on a legislation done in 1995 and the amendment added to it, I mean done to it
38:06in 2013. What do you have to say father? I want to ask you, you spoke about the fact that how even
38:13people in Kerala not belonging to the Islam religion, you know Christians essentially or
38:19Catholics are also suffering in this fashion given that land is taken away and claimed as
38:25part of the WACF property. But there are political parties, for example just now the Samajwadi party
38:31has said there will be bloodshed, there will be murders, there is so much disgruntlement
38:35that Muslims will be coming out on the streets. You know there is fear-mongering though the
38:40government has said that this is a democracy. We will discuss the bill threadbare, opposition will
38:45be allowed to speak as well. How do you look at these statements coming in, inflammatory in nature?
38:52See madam, actually here the issue is basically the issue of constitution. You see we have a
39:00constitution, Indian constitution. When anti-constitutional or non-constitutional
39:06legislations are passed in the parliament, how can the people live here in this country?
39:12What can we do? So what should the politicians do? First of all they should recognize the issues,
39:19the constitutional issues involved in the matter. You see it is very easy to actually, you see
39:27though I am represented here, I am representing the people in Monambam, actually 610 families
39:34are not just Christians. You know there are only 400 families, Christian families. Then almost 200
39:41families are of various groups, the SNDP, DIVERA, then Kudumbichema. So actually we are here not
39:53simply to speak about Christian rights. No, we are speaking about the rights of the Indian
40:01citizens. Please do not misunderstand the involvement of the KCBC or CBCI as if their
40:10plan is to speak for the Christians. I understand that you say you are representing
40:15a people of an area and they are not necessarily Christians. They are people from all religions.
40:20But talk to us, you know in the past also, the kind of disadvantage that people had to face,
40:25the problems that people had to face because of land grabbing essentially.
40:32Yes, the issue is this is a kind of legalized land grabbing. This is the issue. You see how can
40:42that happen in a country where there is a constitution, in a secularist country.
40:53Suppose you see Christians have also the custom of offering their property to the church for
41:02example. And a lot of properties have been taken over by a lot of people. If we are asking for
41:13the taking back of all these lands and we ask for a law, a legislation, the parliament,
41:24can that be done there? Which goes above, you see the Wakaf act numbers, 40 is really
41:37detrimental to the peaceful move of the society. 83, the Wakaf Tribunal, 107 which waives the
41:51the limitation act, 108A which makes it above all the other existing laws in the country.
42:01So, all these are to be amended. We are not asking that the whole laws or the amendments
42:10which the government, the BJP government has brought should be passed. That's not what we
42:14are asking. At least let us be just and impartial in finding out which are real issues and which
42:28process are problematic and find solution to that. This is what the BBC and KCBC have
42:37asked. And of course, that is quite logical. Quite okay, that is what I say. And the political
42:45parties should be willing to take up those issues. Just turning a blind eye on these issues will
42:56accelerate the issues actually. So, better have a right politics now, not a politics of appeasement
43:10or politics of blindness. That is not. Understood. Thank you. Thank you so much for joining in.