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00:00I'm not sitting here telling you that you're not allowed to win games when your best player is out
00:05But I am here to tell you that their expectations for any team missing their best player should change
00:11They absolutely should I'm not offering that just to the Warriors. I'm offering that to everybody
00:17Absolutely, everybody
00:19Steph Curry is not there
00:21That is automatically a worse team. Yo kitch is not there. That is automatically a lesser team. They're allowed to win games
00:28They just did they came in here and whipped the Warriors without Nicola. Yo kitch
00:33LeBron James is out. That's a worse team. Jaron Jackson is out
00:36It's a worse team Kawhi Leonard is out worse team. You get the idea
00:41so I
00:43Guess today for me dibs is a little bit of a combo platter. It's not a panic
00:49I'm not gonna panic when Steph Curry has only played three of the last 16 quarters for the Warriors
00:55There's no panic, but there's plenty of frustration
00:59There's plenty of frustration and pointing out where this conversation started a week ago
01:05Which is that I am having a hard time buying that the Warriors are Steve Wilkes built for this
01:12Depends on if he is built for this and Jimmy Butler in his comments last night
01:16we need 30 back and
01:18Steve Kerr earlier this week when we had him on the show and I asked him about the warrior culture and he said
01:24Steph Curry is the warrior culture and then he went into more detail about what the exact culture is
01:30and I'm in the midst mark of breaking down the non Steph games this year and
01:36How they win because we know that the Warriors this year
01:39I believe are seven and five when he doesn't play is that where it's I think that's the number
01:43Okay, cuz Steph Curry is correct 34 and 26. So they're seven and five without Steph and I'm just going through
01:51Three point percentages in the games when Steph didn't play first game. He missed against New Orleans. They won
01:58They went 21 of 46 from 3
02:0221 of 46
02:05That was the Lindy Waters game if you remember, oh
02:09That was the one that led to my take that they should they should want Lindy Waters in there more than D
02:14Anthony Melton, right? I did that for a day and they ended up trading both of them
02:19That one aged, okay, not really, but anyway, go ahead they beat New Orleans again two nights later
02:24Yep, they went 13 to 38, which is right about their season average and they got a win
02:29I won't run through all of it
02:30But I'll tell you a couple one they beat Houston in overtime and they were 15 of 32 from 3
02:37They lost to the Clippers without Steph. They were 7 of 38 from 3, which is an 18.4%
02:44They beat Memphis by 8 they were 23 of 43
02:49No Steph from 3 so it kind of leads to my earlier point of Steph or no Steph
02:55They shoot almost more threes than anyone other than Boston
02:58And if they make their threes without Steph, they're gonna win if they don't make the threes
03:05Without Steph you're getting hammered
03:07There is a piece of this that almost feels like the curtain is getting pulled back on the Wizard of Oz
03:13This is not great for the drama of the league for the intrigue of the league or the ratings of 95-7 the game
03:21Because everybody wants more analysis than that. They want more opinion than that
03:26But that is what you just said is a reality. It is an unfortunate reality of today's NBA
03:34people fire up crap loads of threes and
03:39If a decent north of 40% of them go in you win
03:44yep, and if less than 30% of them go in you lose and
03:50It's somewhere in the middle where the clutch game happens
03:55That's the deal
03:56That's the deal and I know that that robs us of our heroes
04:01Okay, but I still think that thought that you can tuck into that the presence of Steph Curry because he is a star player
04:09And oh, by the way, he's also their best three-point shooter
04:12So all of those aspects they become tougher your best three-point shooter is not there and your spacing gets messed up
04:19When Steph Curry's not out there because they get to guard you more because when Steph's on the court, they don't guard you, right?
04:26Moses can just stand by himself in the corner and nobody cares Draymond your threes couldn't be more wide open, right?
04:33So that's that's the trickle-down effect. So it's a little of both. But what you're saying is is reality, right?
04:39It's just reality. They just they have not made their three-point attempts on this road trip
04:44They shot 26% in a game without Steph 10 of 38
04:4926% you think they won that game? No, no, they lost by 12 to Indiana. They shot
04:5532% against Houston and one that was the 99 93
05:00Funky game 30% something. That's the middle ground. That's where the close games come
05:05That's one coming escorting at then a career-high like 30. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, they were 16 of 50 against
05:11Okay, see 32% they lost by four loss, but it's a clutch a close to your point
05:16And not to bury everyone with numbers, but I was just looking at the stats for the entire league
05:2342% of all field goal attempts in the association are threes
05:3042% so we talked about it being a make-or-miss league
05:33It's become such a make-or-miss league so as to become a little bit mundane
05:39And that is something that Adam silver and company I do think have to fix because I'm all for the three
05:45But it's become just the three its drive to the hoop and who can I kick it out to and then it's
05:52Another kick out another kick. Yeah, that's a piece of it
05:54Like I've reasoned with all the three-point shooting
05:57but there's about two or three possessions a game that that do feel frustrating where somebody literally drives inside and
06:05and seemingly has a
06:07Layup or or really high percentage look and they kick it back out, right?
06:12They kick it back out for a three, you know, maybe that's analytics. Maybe it's habit. Maybe it's some of both
06:19I don't know, but it's analytics. Yeah, it's not great
06:23Well in the league wide even if the league shoots 33% and if you shoot
06:2843 is a game and you shoot 33%
06:31That's you know, basically 13 makes and if you shoot 52s and you shoot 50% on those
06:38That's 25 makes so you probably get more bang for your buck on the three
06:42Based on how many you're gonna take and look at Boston
06:44They shoot about 54% of their shots from three really good at it though, right?
06:48Well, they have like everybody can shoot it
06:50Yeah
06:50They surround the three-point arc with a lot of people who make a lot of shots the weird thing about Boston
06:56You watch a game
06:58Everybody's sort of like the perception that's like oh, it's Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown and then you know
07:04They got Derek White out there. Maybe sprinkle in a little bit of Al Horford. That's Boston. They bring in a second unit
07:10It's like literally a bunch of white dudes
07:13You've never heard of and they're out there just crushing threes
07:16Like they I don't even know who half those dudes are and they will just kill you with the three-point shot
07:25It's all they do. Yeah, that's it. And they're out there winning championships
07:29Yeah, so, you know a piece of it is that the Warriors just missed all their shots on these two games so far
07:35Let's go to Debra in San Leandro. Hi Debra, and we're asking callers. What's bugging you?
07:41What is bothering you most about the Warriors right now Debra? Thank you for the call. What's up?
07:45All right. Thank you guys. Look I won't take up your whole show because I could but let me tell you
07:50I
07:52Was really high I'm saying, okay
07:53we have the potential yeah, we could if we get in a seven game series because of our experience and
07:58Because our guys think the game our main guys we could win a series or two, right? And then I'm looking at them playing
08:08Atlanta and I'm looking at them playing the heat and I'm saying they're missing they don't have it
08:12I don't feel they have what it takes to win it all now
08:15I felt they had it, but I don't because I don't want to hear about like you said
08:19We're not up for the game that has nothing to do with your defense
08:23You play defense. They're not playing defense. They're making awful passes and
08:29It's a mental thing. Not a physical thing. It's a mental thing to me. And that's what I have a problem with. I
08:36Totally agree Debra. That's why I said what I said 15 minutes ago
08:40If it like I get it
08:43This is media speak from a lot of these
08:45These guys after games and that's the way you have to handle it
08:48You have to say what you have to say and it has to be kind of honest
08:51But not brutally honest like it's a little game that everybody plays
08:56But if this was all totally factual then the Warriors need therapy
09:01I give if you literally are having a hard time getting ready to play if you're literally having a hard time
09:09Putting out effort in
09:11Moments like these if the other team quote wants it more right all of these cliches if that were actually
09:18Totally true, then yes, I wouldn't I wouldn't look to acquire Jimmy Butler. I'd look to acquire a
09:25psychologist
09:27Because that's crazy
09:28You can't tell me that a team that is supposedly made up of champions who are as we've been told
09:36obsessed
09:38Obsessed with a fifth ring for Steph Curry. Do they look obsessed to you? I
09:45And by the way, I think they are I think they are it but so it's not a matter of them not being ready
09:51It's a matter of they've got some holes. They're not a great team. They're a good team. They're not a great team, but
09:59They have got to make shots number one and they have to be whole
10:03That's just how I feel. I think the Warriors can
10:07Possibly maneuver in the playoffs, but they've got to be whole agreed
10:10but in the meantime when you're not whole you've got to show more in the effort category than you did the last two games and
10:17It hasn't totally shaken me off of the idea that I think that they should
10:22Be able to get into a second series
10:24But the last two losses have shaken me and you and I joked before the show
10:28You're like, why don't you ask me the question?
10:30Asked me about over under playoff wins do it
10:33You've been under four and a half playoff wins for the Warriors meaning
10:37You don't think that they're gonna win a series and I told you before the show
10:40I'm not gonna ask you because after these last two games
10:43Why would your answer change it wouldn't it's even more you put even a little bit more cemented in the reality not
10:49Convinced they're gonna get a series, right? So that's not saying they can't that's me
10:55Tell him he's saying that if you want me to bet my money right now on that
11:00That's clearly the favorite that's clearly where the odds would would go
11:04Which is the Warriors not winning one playoff series because they haven't even they haven't even secured a series yet
11:10Not right close
11:12Well, and if you wind up in the play-in and you wind up as the eighth seed and you get Oklahoma City
11:17Who still has a chance to win 70 games? They're 60 and 12
11:21I doubt they'll push for that. But if you look at the list of teams who have won
11:2665 or more games
11:28there's a large percentage of them who go on to win the NBA championship and I mentioned this before about their
11:34Their plus-minus point differential their number one all time right now
11:39I'll say it again their point differential is number one all
11:44time
11:4512.9 right now, right and teams that are 2 3 4 5 & 6 all went on to win the championship in that season where they
11:52Were among this elite group. So yeah, count me out on the Warriors being able to upset
11:58OKC, can you get the six and get a favorable matchup against the three?
12:03Sure, are you still able to write the ship after these two bad losses? Of course, but what you said about them being whole
12:11Absolutely whole well, and I don't think you need to be whole against New Orleans or San Antonio
12:16But I do well, no matter what what you don't want to show more effort
12:20What what well, but again, I don't like I don't want to fall into
12:24Oh, if they're playing bad, that must mean that they're not trying they are trying
12:30This is their best on some nights
12:32If that's not good, well, exactly
12:36Exactly, and I don't know if that's their best
12:38I mean, this is what they've got right now if Steph's not there and the role players aren't hitting shots
12:43This is what it looks like fair enough
12:46Well, this is it. This isn't a poor effort or a weird night. This is it
12:51That's a night where shots aren't falling for role players. That's what it looks like
12:55It's not a very good team
12:57Even when shots are falling for role players and I'm gonna go to the next game on my list you shot 16 of 38
13:0442% from 3 without Steph
13:07You lost to Atlanta by 9 you gave up a buck 24
13:11So that game right now on my list of non Steph games is the outlier you shot it really well 42% from 3
13:1816 makes
13:20Atlanta shot it better your defense stunk and you know Draymond talked about it being a bad loss and this can't happen and this and
13:27That so that's the one that kind of stings because yeah last night you shot it terribly you lost no Steph
13:34That's predictable and I should share this pattern with everyone
13:38Through some social media because other than the Atlanta game no Steph Curry you shoot it
13:44Less than average you lose you shoot it better than average you win. Yeah
13:49The Atlanta game though is the weird one because you did shoot 42% from 3 and you still lost by almost double digits
13:55Yeah, they kept chasing him like I will give him that in the Atlanta game. That was a much more entertaining game
14:00Yeah, than the one last night because they kept chasing him like they kept coming they get like, okay
14:06We're good. We got behind but we're gonna make a run. We're gonna make a run
14:09They kept coming and staying in the game, but they just couldn't get stops
14:13They could not get stops
14:15So they lose that game last night as I said last night was something that happens
14:20Every July 4th for people who love to have that little party on their driveway. Just one out of every nine fireworks just
14:29Total dud total duh, I couldn't believe that that was last night's game after all that excitement
14:36That was what they had for the world. I
14:40Couldn't believe it. Yeah
14:42The fans there didn't even care. Well, they were booing him early
14:46Mustard up some booze, you know, whatever have a couple drinks
14:50But like Steve said it after the game is like yeah, it was not a that was not an intense environment at all
14:57Nothing. Well, the Warriors didn't allow it to get intense
15:00You go down by 17 at the half and just looking at the Atlanta game
15:05You are minus 17 after the opening 12 minutes
15:08So as much as you shot it
15:09well
15:10You dug such a hole and that's been a big part of this and you know
15:13We can listen to all the sound bites about you know, we didn't come ready to play and whatnot
15:17It's been the first quarter marked. It's been for me and I'll go through the non Steph games and see what their first quarter
15:25differential is but it really feels like
15:28Even when he's out there a lot of the time they're just not a good first quarter team
15:32Here's what Steve Kerr said last night when he was asked about the environment
15:36I didn't know what was going on pregame because there was a video with no sound
15:40So I I was wondering what was happening, you know, Miami is it's a great place to live
15:47So people don't ever seem too amped up around here. They're living the good life. So it really wasn't that
15:54Rabbit of an environment it was
15:57Typical Miami. I think the main part of Jimmy's return is that the heat were ready and then Spoh had him ready
16:03And I mean you shoot 17 for 25 from 3
16:08You're gonna win, but I thought it was how hard they played how well they competed. They took it to us tonight
16:13It's kind of an interesting comment in there somewhere tucked in there
16:16It sounds like Steve Kerr is insinuating that you only are able to muster up
16:22Big time
16:24hardcore kind of controversial environments at a sports a
16:28Sporting event if you you live in a place where people have a hard time enjoying their lives
16:35It I do think that it's somewhat of a fair comp
16:38I mean, it's not yeah, like not a hundred percent of the time. He's like, yeah people don't get amped up out here
16:43California has the exact same reputation right like Giants games until 10 12 and 14
16:49You were hard-pressed to really find a
16:52Jacked up crowd and I remember the early days of
16:55Pac-bell Park when it opened now Oracle Park where a lot of people were critical of all these new fans
17:01And they're not like the candlestick fans that were so hardcore and you know
17:054,700 fans at candlestick and we got after it and these fans are different
17:09And well when you win it gets loud and it gets crazy out here
17:13And I think it's the same for Miami where Miami right now
17:16They're the 10 seed and you traded away your star who was somebody you could kind of root for and are we gonna get
17:23Crazy for Tyler hero and Duncan, right?
17:25I don't know
17:26But I mean, it's like I didn't know this about Miami
17:29But I heard it a bunch yesterday because of the whole Jimmy Butler thing and people wanted to know what the reaction would be
17:34But everyone said in Miami the crowd always arrives really really late
17:37And I think about how when the Warriors are in the playoffs
17:41Literally the Warriors like Steve Kerr will publicly at press conferences like games start early
17:46Could you please all be in your seat at the start of the game?
17:49We don't want tip-off to happen with a building. That's three-quarters full. You don't have to do those things in, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
17:56You don't have to do that. You don't have to do that in Cleveland. What do you got in Oklahoma City, right, right?
18:02You're there three o'clock for a seven o'clock game
18:05Yeah, and especially though because it's like super fresh and new and I remember the first warrior championship run at Oracle where you'd have
18:13Let's go warrior chance 45 minutes before tip because it was something that we had never seen exactly
18:19it was something special in the first time and you had
18:2198% of fans wearing the t-shirt that they would give you and and that happens right like I what you know what if the Giants
18:28went to the
18:30World Series again this year, you know, they're allowed to if the Giants went to the World Series
18:36Would Oracle Park be as loud as it was 15 years ago?
18:41Probably not. Yeah, I'd argue no
18:43Kind of like Red Sox. There's just like well, I wonder about Cleveland this year
18:47Like if Cleveland goes on a run will they be?
18:50As loud and as wild as they were the first time LeBron got it done or the first time LeBron brought them to it
18:55Good question. I wonder I don't know. I don't know, you know
18:59I've never even been to Cleveland. It's a great question either
19:02I don't know, but I do think when a city has had that long long long angst and then it happens
19:09Well, it's like okay now we've got it
19:12You know what? I mean? Like I don't think that the Cubs if they go to the World Series that would be
19:18huge and the fan base would be crazy, but you'd be missing that like I am about to cry
19:27Heavy tears if they win the World Series, you would just be like, let's get drunk
19:32They're gonna win the World Series
19:34But a few years ago was like I'm gonna cry like my grandpa wanted to see this and never saw
19:40Yeah, like that thing great. Let's go and 2010 for Giants fans. I know it did for me
19:46It had some of that dude. I was I was I bawled when they won the 2010 World Series
19:51I didn't when they won in 12 and 14, right?
19:54Cuz you've been there done that and it's in different cities or you know have different responses like, Arizona
20:01Phoenix is not, you know, a super passionate sports town either
20:05But you know when they like when the Diamondbacks won it they didn't really have that long history of pain and angst
20:11I don't think it was the same level of tears. Some of it is just the cold. I
20:14Think it's just the weather which is a weird thing to say
20:18But I really do think that that's it like if you think about if Buffalo ever wins the Super Bowl
20:22I you want to talk about like weeping. That's it
20:26Done. Yeah, shut the place down for a day. You can move to Siberia now. That's it. That's it
20:32We don't need anything else in life. That's it. But when it's warm
20:37People are just like we're good
20:39Good with whatever happens to be nice like we're into it. But you know, it's warm
20:44So it's fine and I think that's kind of it sounds to me like that's that's what Miami's like