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00:00I'm going to play a little bit of the music that I used to play when I was a kid.
00:30In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
00:38Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.
00:40Alhamdulillah, syukur kehadrat Allah swt.
00:42Meeting us again in Ruang Cerita Zayat.
00:45Alhamdulillah.
00:46With ABI and Ana Mazan.
00:48And this podcast is for us to inspire you to watch or listen.
00:52And also as a motivation for us to move in a better direction.
00:57That's right.
00:58That's our core.
00:59Inspiration, motivation, and everything else.
01:03Gossip, gossip, gossip.
01:04There's no such thing here.
01:06God willing, the good ones.
01:07The good ones.
01:08If gossip brings goodness, God willing, we will try to ask.
01:12Is there gossip for goodness?
01:13Yes.
01:14There is.
01:15Gossip is always news that we don't know if it's true or not.
01:19Is that right?
01:20Okay, okay.
01:21It's okay.
01:22The answer is very certain.
01:24We have to ask someone who knows more.
01:26But today's atmosphere is a bit different.
01:28Why?
01:29We will be with a very famous person.
01:32Why did you change the dialect?
01:35Because it's close to where I live.
01:38Oh, it's close.
01:39It's not that far.
01:40I was born in Tunjang.
01:43Tunjang.
01:44That's right.
01:45I was born in 2002.
01:46But I grew up in Seberanjaya.
01:49Oh, 2002.
01:50I don't know what year.
01:51It's okay.
01:52It's not far from Sungai Petani.
01:53Yes.
01:54It's in the north.
01:56If you go there, you have to mention a name.
01:59Everyone knows about it.
02:02Is he a singer or an actor?
02:04I don't know how to categorise him.
02:06But I took him as a role model.
02:10MashaAllah.
02:11We are with Al-Fadhil Ustaz Yaakub Yusra from Madad.
02:15Peace be upon you, Ustaz.
02:16Peace be upon you, too.
02:17MashaAllah.
02:18Ustaz, our introduction is a bit...
02:22Ustaz, are you okay?
02:23Are you okay?
02:24I'm okay.
02:25Are you all the way from Kedah?
02:27Yes, I'm from Kedah.
02:28Praise be to Allah.
02:29He's a great writer.
02:30He's a great writer.
02:31I like it when people from Kedah say that.
02:34But actually, Ustaz Yaakub Yusra was not born in Kedah.
02:39Yes, I was born in Terengganu.
02:41I'm 11 years old.
02:42One plus one is two.
02:45You're from Terengganu.
02:47Yes.
02:48But you've lived in Kedah for a long time.
02:49I've lived in Kedah for a long time.
02:50I've lived in Kedah for 12 years.
02:52Then I got married in Kedah.
02:54After I got married, I left Kedah.
02:56You left Kedah.
02:57Yes, I did.
02:58But look at his tongue.
03:00It's all locked in Kedah.
03:01It's all locked in Kedah.
03:02It's like a real person.
03:03Yes, I came back early.
03:04You came back early.
03:05But if you meet people from Terengganu, is it okay?
03:07Yes, we can talk.
03:08But we can't have a conversation.
03:09I try to come back every month.
03:13Usually, I come back there to have a monthly course.
03:17To have a conversation in Kedah.
03:19I try.
03:20I try to speak in Terengganu.
03:22But my voice sounds like a hooded person.
03:24Because there are a lot of words that I use wrongly.
03:29Maybe it's because I'm not used to it.
03:31You're not used to it.
03:32But if we have a conversation, it's okay.
03:34It's okay.
03:35It's okay.
03:36Yes, it's okay.
03:37There's no problem.
03:38Try to speak in Terengganu.
03:39How does your voice sound like?
03:41It's the same.
03:43It's the same.
03:44It's hard to change the speech.
03:47It's hard to change the speech.
03:49It's hard to change the speech.
03:51Before we get to know Ustaz Yaakob Yusrof...
03:56...who is known as the Antero of this planet...
04:01...who is Ustaz Yaakob Yusrof...
04:04...and we want to know before that...
04:06...did you study abroad?
04:09Can you tell us about it?
04:11I studied at Sekolah Agama Daris.
04:16I studied there for 12 years.
04:18It was a low school.
04:19It was a middle school.
04:20But the concept was like Pondok...
04:22...in the 90s.
04:25Then I finished my first degree...
04:28...at the University of National Defense of Malaysia.
04:29That's a bit strange.
04:30University?
04:31National Defense of Malaysia.
04:32UPNM.
04:33I was appointed as a young lieutenant...
04:36...in the Malaysian military.
04:39That's great.
04:40I was appointed in 2012.
04:42After I was appointed...
04:45...it was only for a short while...
04:47...because I was already married at that time.
04:50I was already married when I was appointed.
04:53My wife was in Azhar, Egypt.
04:56I was living far away for a year.
04:58Can you imagine?
04:59I was on a bus.
05:00I was a messenger in Yahoo.
05:01I was so happy.
05:02I had a headache.
05:04I was living far away for a year.
05:06I was a Negro.
05:08So I decided to change my uniform...
05:11...to the TTP uniform.
05:13I was discharged from the military in 5 years.
05:15I continued my master's degree in Masyarah.
05:19God willing.
05:20I was going to continue my studies.
05:21You were going to reunite with your wife.
05:23I was going to continue my studies.
05:25I was 80% going to stay with my wife.
05:27I decided to sacrifice...
05:29...to join the military...
05:32...to continue my studies.
05:35You were studying religious studies.
05:37Yes.
05:38I was studying Arabic.
05:41I was doing my master's degree.
05:45I was taking care of my children...
05:47...while I was studying.
05:49I didn't have a lot of time to study.
05:51I only had 3 years in Masyarah.
05:54You were studying.
05:55But you're a great man now.
05:57You were studying religious studies.
06:00Who encouraged you to become a preacher?
06:03Not everyone can be a preacher.
06:07I think it was because of the transaction.
06:11Transition.
06:12Transaction.
06:13It's like sending money.
06:16The transition was like this.
06:18After 12 years in Pondok...
06:20...I joined the UPNM.
06:22It was a rare turning point.
06:25It was eye-opening.
06:26In the past, the UPNM...
06:30...was number one in the UPU.
06:32There were 8 choices.
06:34IPTA, for example.
06:36UPNM was the first choice.
06:38Only straight-A students could apply.
06:40It was very difficult at the time.
06:45Because they were selected.
06:48I was interviewed at the lowest camp.
06:53There were about 8,000 people.
06:55They wanted to hire only 400 people.
06:59So, they just fired people.
07:01They even had to remove the long hair.
07:04They even had to remove the one-second delay.
07:06One-second delay?
07:07Imagine playing all the way from Manahala.
07:10They didn't care.
07:11One-second delay?
07:12Go home and pack your stuff.
07:14They didn't care.
07:15They just wanted to fire people.
07:16Imagine how many thousands of people...
07:19...were selected.
07:21I was the only one in Pondok.
07:24I was an SPM.
07:25I was just a passenger.
07:26I was willing to take the job.
07:27But, thank God, I was lucky.
07:29My brain was a bit damaged.
07:31Maybe because I ate raisins.
07:33My brain was damaged.
07:34But, it was okay.
07:35I got a good result.
07:37Out of thousands of people,
07:39I was the only one in Pondok.
07:41I was the only one.
07:42I didn't see anyone in the data.
07:43I didn't see anyone who was an SPP.
07:44I didn't see anyone who was an SPM.
07:45I didn't see anyone who was a high school student.
07:47I didn't see anyone who was a high school student.
07:49When I joined UPNM,
07:51I was like,
07:52why am I here?
07:53I didn't feel like I belonged here.
07:57Okay.
07:58I'll tell you the story.
07:59The story of how I joined UPNM.
08:00Firstly,
08:01I wasn't interested in the name Suhaskar.
08:04I accompanied a friend of mine.
08:07My friend got a straight A SPM.
08:09I didn't get a straight A SPM.
08:10He got a straight A.
08:11I accompanied him to BSN.
08:14I bought a pin code for the UPU registration.
08:19When I bought it,
08:20he bought two.
08:22I bought two,
08:23so I had to fill in the name.
08:24He asked me,
08:26why do I have to fill in the name?
08:27I said, I don't know.
08:28I registered for STEM.
08:29I didn't want to go to university.
08:31Okay.
08:32I had planned my career.
08:34At that time,
08:35I already had a crush on my wife.
08:37We had an aim.
08:39You can't fall in love.
08:40But I already had a crush on her.
08:42I didn't want to get married.
08:43I said,
08:44my wife will definitely get married.
08:46Because we knew that
08:48if we wanted to have a child,
08:49we would let our mother get married.
08:50If we didn't want to get married,
08:51our mother wouldn't get married.
08:52Our child would leave our family.
08:54So,
08:55at that time,
08:56I already had a target.
08:57I went to meet her father.
08:58I didn't fall in love,
08:59but I went to meet her father.
09:00Did you talk to him?
09:01I didn't dare to.
09:02I was afraid.
09:03Okay.
09:04You couldn't.
09:05I was afraid.
09:06So,
09:07at that time,
09:08I was like,
09:09I had a crush on him.
09:11I had registered for STEM.
09:13I had registered for STEM.
09:15I bought two pin codes for the UPU registration.
09:17Me and him.
09:19At that time,
09:20he asked me to fill in the name.
09:21I didn't know at all.
09:22I didn't know what UPNM was.
09:24I didn't know what a soldier was.
09:26I was confused.
09:28When we were young,
09:29we had a book called Biadota.
09:31Food,
09:32color,
09:33and stories.
09:35I wrote down the stories that I didn't want to write.
09:38I wrote two things.
09:39One was that I didn't want to be a police officer.
09:40The other was that I didn't want to be a soldier.
09:41I took the book and put it on my face.
09:42You were already in the book.
09:44I was already in the book.
09:45I was already in the book.
09:46But,
09:47that's how it was.
09:48God destined it.
09:49I understood it
09:50when I was about to be a soldier.
09:51So,
09:52when I joined UPNM,
09:54in the first year,
09:55Alhamdulillah,
09:56I got 10 best students.
09:58I got a scholarship.
09:59But,
10:00at that time,
10:01I was too busy.
10:02I wanted to go out.
10:03I went to Masjid.
10:05We were in Malaysia.
10:06So, I was busy.
10:08I was busy not because I couldn't study.
10:10I was busy because
10:11I wanted to study in Masjid.
10:13So,
10:14I asked my father
10:15who asked me to go out.
10:17My father
10:18left me with a saying.
10:20He said,
10:21why among thousands of people,
10:23Allah chose
10:25Isra to be in UPNM?
10:28I heard that saying.
10:30I was shocked.
10:31Among thousands of people,
10:32from the interview,
10:34from the request,
10:35I couldn't get my best friend.
10:36I suddenly got it.
10:37When I got it,
10:38I felt guilty.
10:39I even called the UPU.
10:41Can I change my friend?
10:43But, I didn't want to go in.
10:44I didn't have any intention to go in.
10:47My father's mother is an officer.
10:50And,
10:51in her room,
10:52all the posters are officers.
10:54We didn't know each other.
10:56Before,
10:57we didn't know
10:58which uniform Nefah wore.
11:00You didn't want to go in?
11:01No, I didn't want to go in.
11:02When you didn't get it,
11:03how did you respond?
11:05The UPU sent me a message.
11:07I was at the clinic.
11:08I got a congratulatory message
11:09to call for an interview
11:10to the National University of Malaysia.
11:12When I got the message,
11:13I was like,
11:14oh, I got the BNF.
11:15You didn't want to go in?
11:16No, I didn't want to go in.
11:17You didn't want to go in?
11:18No, I didn't want to go in.
11:19Suddenly, he called.
11:20He said,
11:21I got a message from the UPU.
11:23I got the message.
11:24But, I asked him,
11:25did you get it?
11:26He said,
11:27I didn't get it yet.
11:28I was like,
11:29I don't know.
11:30Because, I was like,
11:31you wanted to cover it up.
11:32Yes, I wanted to cover it up.
11:33Then,
11:34I felt bad.
11:35I was like,
11:36let him get the message.
11:37Then, I hugged him.
11:38No.
11:39It's wrong.
11:40Yes, it's wrong.
11:41When I got the message,
11:42I said,
11:43he didn't get it.
11:44He didn't get it.
11:45He didn't get it.
11:46I hugged him.
11:47So,
11:48I called the UPU.
11:50I asked,
11:51can you give me my number?
11:53I explained it to the UPU.
11:55Actually,
11:56he wanted to be a soldier.
11:57I didn't want to be a soldier.
11:58I was happy.
11:59You couldn't do it, right?
12:00Oh,
12:01what did you think?
12:02You were happy.
12:03Yes,
12:04I was happy.
12:05At least, he accepted it.
12:06At least, he accepted it.
12:07At least, he helped me.
12:08At least, he helped me.
12:09How to go to the interview.
12:10How to go to the interview.
12:11But,
12:12I saw,
12:14Allah Almighty had chosen me from there.
12:15Allah Almighty had chosen me from there.
12:16I was the only one
12:17from religious school.
12:18I was the only one
12:19from religious school.
12:20The lads,
12:21and the students of Tafeez
12:22have attended PNM.
12:23So, there were things that
12:24Allah Almighty had chosen.
12:25That's where this preaching began.
12:26That's where this preaching began.
12:27Masha'Allah.
12:28So,
12:29in my first year,
12:30Allah Almighty had chosen me
12:31as the head of the college.
12:32He didn't have to
12:33choose me.
12:34But,
12:35I was in the community.
12:36I told you,
12:37I had one teacher,
12:38but he chose Tafeez
12:39as the head of the college.
12:40It made me confused at that time.
12:41What is it?
12:42You were the head of the college, right?
12:43I think that was the time you broke your character
12:45Yeah, I just broke my character
12:46Before that, I didn't have it
12:48Because they say that there's no forte in leadership
12:52I'm the most cowardly person
12:54If I was to be asked to speak in the middle of the school, I'd spit out my spit
12:59No, it's not funny
13:01If I was asked to speak in the middle of the school, I'd get sick
13:03Of course not
13:04I never did
13:06I was a teacher at school
13:08But if I was asked to speak in the middle of the school, I'd spit out my spit
13:15You'd get sick
13:16Yeah, I'd get sick
13:17I'd get sick
13:18So, I was in the PNM
13:20I couldn't speak in the middle of the school
13:24It was so hot that I had to iron my shirt
13:27So, when I ironed my shirt, I didn't have to go to school
13:30Because I knew I had to speak
13:32I didn't have to speak in the middle of the school
13:34So, I became the head of the school
13:36That's all
13:40But I couldn't go to school
13:42If I wanted to go to school, I'd have to die
13:44When did you become the head of the school?
13:46That's when I learned how to lead people
13:51So, our school was the best school in PNM
13:56Because it was very active
13:58I taught our students
14:00All the students
14:02Every week, there was a tournament
14:04I did a game tournament
14:06I did Counter-Strike
14:08We also played games
14:10So, we made a program
14:12So, there was a connection between the students
14:15Usually, it was just the students in the school
14:20But every week, there was a program
14:22CSR program
14:26So, the Chancellor was surprised
14:30Why was the school so active
14:32Even though there was no budget
14:34So, that's when we started to manage
14:36Until the second year, HCP asked
14:38To make a tournament
14:40To compete as a school
14:42I knew this was a joke
14:44A joke?
14:46How do you translate a joke?
14:48A joke is a joke
14:50That's a problem
14:52The school already held the YDP college
14:54To compete
14:56So, I said
14:58It's okay, Ustaz
15:00From the title, Ustaz
15:02It's okay, Ustaz
15:04The students rarely won
15:06Of course, they won
15:08Here and there
15:10We were so angry
15:12They gave me a fake hope
15:14It's okay, Ustaz
15:16It's okay, Ustaz
15:18At least, it was an experience
15:20I didn't even put up a poster
15:22Because I was going to the campaign
15:24I didn't want to do that
15:26I didn't want to put up a poster
15:28I said, let me lose
15:30I saw the majority won
15:32In the UPNM
15:34They saw it
15:36I didn't even know
15:38I think they
15:44I laughed
15:46I said, is this a joke?
15:48They gave me a manifesto
15:50I didn't have a manifesto
15:52So, at that time
15:54All of this
15:56I was already in the YDP college
15:58I was the head of the body of God
16:00It was crazy
16:02The majority won
16:04At that time, I requested
16:06I didn't want to be a YDP
16:08For the first year
16:10Suddenly, I wanted to be a YDP
16:12I think it was
16:14Very disrespectful
16:16To the seniors
16:18So, I requested
16:20I wanted to hold the portfolio
16:22And the Bible
16:24So, that's where I did my studies
16:26Until today
16:28As long as the UPNM exists
16:30I want to study in the mosque
16:32I can walk every day
16:34Even though I graduated
16:3612 years ago
16:38But the paperwork is still
16:40So, I put the kids
16:42Have to pray, pray
16:44And of course
16:46There are cases
16:48We don't deny the existence
16:50Which is lacking
16:52The head of the body of God
16:54Others went up
16:56But it's okay
16:58I'm okay
17:00Because
17:02I want to do what I can
17:04If YDP
17:06We have to rotate
17:08Overall
17:10Rather than doing things
17:12I think there will be limitations
17:14I focus on my portfolio
17:16And the portfolio is the most
17:18Alhamdulillah
17:20Until now
17:22Okay, as long as
17:24Ustaz has been a preacher
17:26From studying
17:28Studying, studying
17:30Until now
17:32What is the most difficult
17:34Being a preacher
17:36What is so difficult
17:38Perception
17:40Want to change people's perspective
17:42I think because
17:44As I said earlier
17:46I'm not a person
17:48Since childhood
17:50People have to play games
17:52I was 7-8 years old
17:54I played for Malaysia
17:56So, the kids
17:58Play games
18:00This game is great
18:02Everything is great
18:04Great religion
18:06Play games
18:08I don't know if I can
18:10At the age of 11
18:12I made a server game
18:14My mother passed away
18:16When I was young
18:18The only way I had
18:20I have to find
18:22Sustainability myself
18:24That's why I made a game
18:26If you want to find money
18:28In the game, you have to look for me
18:30I set up a board
18:32Every PC
18:34If I open 24 hours
18:3610 PCs are mine
18:38I don't play, I set up a board
18:40There was coding
18:421 PC runs 10 boards
18:441 board gets 1 million zeny
18:461 million zeny converts to
18:4810 Malaysian Ringgit
18:50Imagine 10 PCs in 100 boards
18:52In a day, you can make
18:5450 million to 100 million
18:56So, the kids will come
18:58He has a strategy
19:00For business
19:02Because
19:04When I was young, I didn't have a choice
19:06I didn't have money to play games
19:08Who did you learn from?
19:10From the internet
19:12How to set up a board
19:14How to
19:16How to
19:18Control a big computer
19:20Is that right?
19:22More or less
19:24From my experience
19:26How to
19:28Organize a college
19:30Right?
19:32The only active college
19:34C4
19:36The best college
19:38Because
19:40They know where to study
19:42Because
19:44When I was in school
19:46Allah taught me
19:48When my late mother passed away
19:50My father was a mosque imam
19:52Now
19:54The imam grades
19:5641-44
19:58I used to think
20:00My father was an imam
20:02He got a placard
20:04A month's allowance
20:06For my siblings
20:08It was a difficult category
20:12Self-sustaining
20:14I remember
20:16When I was 13
20:18I never asked for money
20:20My father's school
20:22I used to pay for my siblings
20:24So, in school
20:26What I did
20:28For example, playing games
20:30There was a team
20:32They paid us to play games
20:34There was an esports team
20:36We played DotA
20:40So, that was my journey
20:42So, imagine
20:44If people call it a tech game
20:46Suddenly
20:48They want to be titled
20:50As an ustad
20:52It's difficult
20:54It's a concept
20:56That's the most difficult
20:58For people to accept
21:00You as an imam
21:02When I watch your speeches
21:04A lot of people
21:06Your character is very interesting
21:08Like this
21:10It's different
21:12Your speech
21:14It's like
21:16Your lectures
21:18It's unique and interesting
21:20Your influence
21:22Maybe from
21:24Other asatizahs
21:26Or I saw
21:28Your influence in comedy
21:30That's your character
21:32I think
21:34If I
21:38I think it's just me
21:40We tried it
21:42In the beginning
21:44Speaking is
21:46A bit weird
21:48I met
21:50Pak Mentor
21:52Pak Mentor is a motivator
21:54So, it's good
21:56I will bring his approach
21:58Hopefully
22:00So, he's my friend
22:02He's not like
22:04He doesn't reject
22:06But he educates us
22:08He motivates us
22:10For example
22:12Tomorrow
22:14Let's have lunch
22:16He asked me to be his imam
22:18I went home and he was wearing a hijab
22:20He said, I'm wearing a hijab
22:22He has a shrimp
22:24So, I became his imam
22:26He said, Assalamualaikum
22:28So, I didn't
22:30I'm not afraid
22:32He's smart
22:342-3 months before Ramadhan
22:36He said, come to Bukalpasa
22:38I didn't see him as an imam
22:40But he taught me
22:42That's the ultimate
22:44Pak Mentor
22:46He's a motivator
22:48He's a speaker
22:50He's a speaker
22:52He's a speaker
22:54He said
22:56He went to me
22:58He asked me to help him
23:00He asked me to help him
23:02I asked him to help
23:04At Surau Taman Rejaya
23:06I went to help him
23:08He's a speaker
23:10From
23:12Mula Kenai
23:14He didn't approve as a son-in-law
23:16But he taught us
23:18At school
23:20He's a teacher
23:22He's a teacher
23:24He's a teacher
23:26He's a teacher
23:28I asked him to help me
23:30He said, I'm not feeling well
23:32I went to Surau Taman Rejaya
23:34Surau Al-Fateh
23:36I went to Surau Na'im
23:38Surau Taman Rejaya
23:40I didn't know what to say
23:42He put me down
23:44I thought, I'm dead
23:46I thought, I'm dead
23:48That's the first time
23:50That's the first time
23:52I've spoken in front of many people
23:54That's why you threw yourself in the water
23:56You swam
23:58I was worried
24:00If I didn't go
24:02I would have been rejected
24:04I couldn't
24:06It was a big deal
24:08It was a big deal
24:10The request
24:12I searched on YouTube
24:14I searched on YouTube
24:16I searched on YouTube
24:18I wanted to give a speech
24:20I wanted to give a speech
24:22But I was in a hurry
24:24But I was in a hurry
24:26I wanted to give a speech
24:28I didn't know where to start
24:30I didn't know where to start
24:32I didn't know how
24:34I rested for half a day
24:36I rested for half a day
24:38My son-in-law called
24:40To ask if I was going to do maghrib
24:42It was a tough day in my life
24:44It was a tough day in my life
24:46I went to Surau and sat in front of the mosque for 20 minutes
24:53Like a Sudanese
24:55Yes, like a Sudanese
24:57I didn't know where I was
24:59I didn't know where I was
25:01I didn't know where I was
25:03I said, I've been in Surau for a long time
25:05I sat in front of the mosque
25:07But that night
25:09I don't know
25:11I don't know
25:13I had to go
25:15This is not a question
25:17It's a competition
25:19It's a girl, Marko
25:21Yes
25:23I can see the love
25:25Yes
25:27She was holding the mic
25:29She was fluent
25:31She could speak
25:33She could speak
25:35There was no problem
25:37It was okay
25:39We never had a problem
25:41She asked, Ustaz
25:43What is this?
25:45What is this?
25:47What is this?
25:49That was the beginning
25:51I didn't know
25:53I didn't know
25:55We tried
25:57We improvised
25:59We tried
26:01At first, I tried to imitate
26:03Ustaz Shamshuri
26:05The teachers that we enjoyed
26:07When we listened to their lectures
26:09But when we imitated
26:11It wasn't genuine
26:13It wasn't genuine
26:15People didn't like it
26:17We thought it was fun
26:19We tried to be like Ustaz Shamshuri
26:21Actually, he already had
26:23His personality
26:25His personality
26:27Suddenly, he wanted to be
26:29Version 2.0
26:31He couldn't do it
26:33So I was like, I'll be myself
26:35Even if people didn't like it
26:37We improvised
26:39It wasn't funny
26:41It wasn't funny
26:43It wasn't funny
26:45It wasn't funny
26:47It wasn't funny
26:49I said it
26:51I said it
26:53Okay, don't laugh
26:55It was very natural
26:57It just came out naturally
26:59But for serious people
27:01It's funny
27:03It's funny
27:05It's funny
27:07It's not that I laughed
27:09I mean, did you feel sad
27:11I mean, did you feel sad
27:13Or depressed
27:15Ustaz, did you?
27:17I'm a human
27:19Of course, there are ups and downs
27:21When I was young
27:23I grew up in
27:25A cybercafe
27:27A cybercafe
27:29It's not a good place
27:31Back then, when I heard
27:33Cybercafe kids, I was worried
27:35There were drugs
27:37People didn't pray
27:39People didn't have a good life
27:41It was a bad game
27:43I remember
27:45Alhamdulillah, Allah blessed me
27:47And my brother
27:49My brother is also an imam
27:51Then
27:53We prayed
27:55Almarhum?
27:57Ustaz Mutarrar didn't play games
27:59He played music
28:01My brother
28:03Ustaz
28:05And imam
28:07We were sitting
28:09My mother told us
28:11It's okay to go there
28:13My mother didn't get angry
28:15She told me
28:17But don't pray there
28:19We went there to do sejahdah
28:21It's rare
28:23But it's good
28:25When we went there to do sejahdah
28:27Other people also prayed
28:29Chinese people
28:31In the CC
28:33There was a surau
28:35I don't think there was a surau in Malaysia
28:37In the CC
28:39My brother and I
28:41Went there to pray
28:43He said it's okay
28:45Under the stairs
28:47There was a surau
28:49People in the CC
28:51Can also pray
28:53Others didn't
28:55I think it's a blessing
28:57Imagine
28:5999% of people in the CC
29:01Can pray
29:03When we play a game
29:05The rest of the time
29:07They go to the pub
29:09My brother and I
29:11Go to the pub
29:13We just sit there
29:15In the CC
29:17You can pray
29:19But in the CC
29:21You can't pray
29:23In the past
29:25There was a snooker
29:27In the CC
29:29It's like a new thing
29:31People like to hang out
29:33In the CC
29:35It's weird
29:37People who make weird stories
29:39It's normal
29:41But
29:43We don't know
29:45Who's prayer
29:47Allah accepted
29:49Even though we grew up in that environment
29:51But
29:53We're still the same
29:55It's not about women
29:57It's not about
29:59Drugs
30:01Snooker
30:03It's not weird
30:05If I got caught
30:07Playing a game
30:09Under the stairs
30:11I got caught
30:13I got caught
30:15The police said
30:17I was playing
30:19I was playing
30:21They said don't be so honest
30:23I was being honest
30:25I was playing
30:27My mother was not angry
30:29She got caught
30:31But it's not a school test
30:33It's not a school test
30:35But in the CC
30:37You can't go under the stairs
30:39There's no PC in the house
30:41My mother doesn't have money
30:43So
30:45We grew up in that environment
30:47Until today
30:49I can sit with the naughty kids
30:51In the CC
30:53There's a class for the elders
30:55For the naughty kids
30:57For the kids who play games
30:59I just held a tournament
31:01With FIFA Online
31:03So the kids
31:05I'm involved in e-sports development in Malaysia
31:07For Homeboys, Vemos
31:09I'm involved in the same
31:11For e-sports development
31:13In Malaysia
31:15Even though I don't play MLBB
31:17I don't play PUBG
31:19I don't play mobile games
31:21I play with a computer
31:23But we understand
31:25The conditions
31:27In the game
31:29We hold the philosophy
31:31When we cannot beat them
31:33We try to join them
31:35We don't want to fight
31:37Why not we be friends
31:39So when you and I came
31:41In Madak
31:43We made an e-sports stadium
31:45I spent 6 million
31:47Just now you came
31:49So it grew with the mosque
31:51So imagine the gaming center
31:53Near the mosque
31:55But we made
31:57400-500 people came to play
31:59They prayed, that's the best
32:01Because
32:05So
32:07We try to connect the dots
32:09I think today's generation
32:11Can't deny
32:13They must live in a group
32:15In this era
32:17So when I hold the philosophy
32:19I make friends with them
32:21And they feel comfortable
32:23Every program we host
32:25They become the supporters
32:27Madak itself
32:29Everyday is full
32:31How many buses are there?
32:33I think in a month there are 400 buses
32:35In a month
32:37400 buses
32:39Can you tell us a bit about Madak?
32:41I've asked this
32:43I don't know
32:45Ustaz
32:47I don't build Madak with my eyes
32:49But I build Madak with my soul
32:53Madak itself
32:55One
32:57One effort
32:59That I don't think
33:01In my life
33:03Before managing Madak
33:05I live in a comfortable situation
33:07I have as an advisor
33:09For 5 companies
33:11I think my income
33:13At the age of 20
33:15I'm a millionaire
33:17I live in a modern house
33:19I have a company
33:21G7 for contractors
33:23I'm a millionaire
33:25So
33:27My income is around
33:29RM40,000-30,000 a month
33:31Back then I didn't take money
33:33But now
33:35I don't need to pay anything
33:37Because I have income in my business
33:39That's great
33:41But I feel
33:43It's not about giving back
33:45It's a responsibility
33:47Not the source of income
33:49If I want to talk for a long time
33:51If I want to give RM10,000
33:53I can't afford it
33:55In my head
33:57Who's going to give more
33:59I feel
34:01For me
34:03It's a burden
34:05I'm not denying
34:07It's up to you
34:11For me
34:13I will focus on my business
34:15It's not a new business
34:17Since I was 12
34:19I have a server game
34:21Fundamental business
34:23When I joined UPNM
34:25I did business
34:27The best thing about UPNM
34:29They know me
34:31One UPNM I supplied
34:33Wow
34:35I don't need money
34:37I want to get married
34:39Those things
34:41I have to
34:43He's smart
34:45He won't sit still
34:47When it comes to business
34:49Because of Almarhum
34:51In 2012-2017
34:53He messaged me at night
34:55He asked me to meet
34:57At 11pm
34:59I said
35:01Let's meet tomorrow
35:03In the middle of the night
35:05He said
35:07I can't make it
35:09I can't make it
35:11I can't make it
35:13It's expensive
35:15I can't make it
35:17Did he think of anything?
35:19No
35:21He didn't
35:23He just asked
35:25When you heard him
35:27Did you think of anything?
35:29No
35:31I was 30
35:33I didn't think of anything
35:35He was a speaker
35:37He was a speaker
35:39We were friends
35:41We were friends
35:43When he messaged
35:45I went to meet him
35:47When I arrived
35:49He didn't say much
35:51He said
35:53Let's make a surau
35:55For free
35:57He said
35:59He said
36:01We have to make it fast
36:03He said
36:05I can't make it
36:07We had a fight
36:09I was mad at him
36:11He sold his shop
36:13He sold his land
36:15He sold his land
36:17I said
36:19Relax
36:21We do it slowly
36:23Every month
36:25I give him 5-10 thousand
36:27I put it in my account
36:29To make a surau
36:31We have a target
36:33We do it slowly
36:35We have 20 thousand
36:37We make 20 thousand
36:39He was so drastic
36:41In 2017
36:45That night
36:47We had a fight
36:49He quit his job
36:51He wanted to be a PA
36:53Without payment
36:55He wanted to be a PA
36:57In the north
36:59Without payment
37:01He quit his job
37:03Even if it's bad
37:05Even if it's bad
37:07At least his family can get some
37:09Money
37:11So he quit
37:13On the spot
37:15He just wanted to be a PA
37:17Without any benefit
37:19I told him
37:21If anything happens to you
37:23He said
37:25Don't worry
37:27Allah will take care of you
37:29He said that
37:31We had a fight
37:33I didn't agree
37:35We had a surau
37:373 days later
37:39The next day
37:41He flew to Indonesia
37:43With Ustaz Wadi Anwar, Ustaz Ambali and Ayah
37:45I was supposed to go with him
37:47But I was called by the government
37:49For the New Year's greetings
37:51For the New Year's greetings
37:53So I decided
37:55To go with him
37:57I went to Terengganu
37:59I went to Terengganu
38:013 months later
38:03Ustaz Wadi was in a coma
38:05For 10 days
38:07And I
38:09For 10 days
38:11I stayed at the hospital
38:13He took care of him
38:15Every time I talked about
38:17His aspirations
38:19To build a mosque
38:21To build a mosque
38:23There was a response
38:25When a person is in a coma
38:27When we talk about something
38:29The doctor may hear
38:31But he can't respond
38:33But every time I talk about it
38:35His heart rate will increase
38:37There is a response through the unconscious mind
38:39So the doctor said
38:41At that time I said
38:43He invited Bang Guna
38:45Let's do it together
38:47That was the last thing we talked about
38:49About Madad
38:51So
38:53May Allah bless him
39:01Until he was about to die
39:03So on the 13th of January
39:05Allah has decreed
39:07That he was diagnosed with pulmonary encephalitis
39:09Then the tumor was removed
39:11There were many complications
39:13Happening to his body
39:15His body
39:17So he died
39:19So what made me
39:21I resigned
39:23Imagine
39:25At the age of 26
39:27At the age of 25
39:29I made a resignation letter
39:31For all companies
39:33Because I said
39:35If I play a game, I will play it
39:37If I do business, I will do business
39:39If I preach, I will
39:41I won't do anything
39:43Without my authority
39:45If I hold a college
39:47I hold it all
39:49How to make it all out
39:51I won't make a mess
39:53So
39:55It's the same when you want to hold
39:57To manage Madad
39:59The first thing I did
40:01I left everything
40:03I didn't even go anywhere
40:05How long did it take to prepare?
40:07How long?
40:09A year
40:11I don't know
40:13I want to focus
40:15On Madad
40:17It's a new center
40:19Established in 2018
40:21Today is 2025
40:236-7 years
40:25Alhamdulillah
40:27We have managed
40:29To prepare
40:31Mosque, cat house
40:33Wedding house
40:35We have a food house
40:37We have a horse academy
40:39We have a badminton academy
40:41We won the badminton
40:43In Bukit Jalil
40:45Under 13 years
40:47We won the Sudan Mizan Cup
40:49We won the national police chief's trophy
40:51Last two weeks
40:53We don't want to talk about achievements
40:55But we are serious on what we are doing
40:57We don't want to get into
40:59Data Ustaz
41:01We are serious
41:03We are serious
41:05On what we are doing
41:07That's the inspiration
41:09From Abang Ustaz
41:11Madad was not built
41:13On desire
41:15But on sacrifice
41:17And not
41:19Just because
41:21When we started
41:23It was like a test
41:25Like magic
41:27I got magic
41:29Until I wrote a book
41:31How to treat magic
41:33I remember my wife
41:35Imagine in the house
41:37There are two of us
41:39I broke my leg
41:41My hand, my head
41:43That's because of the scratch
41:45It's not a scratch
41:47It's a scratch
41:49I remember
41:51They made plastic
41:53I thought it was a nail
41:55It's the same face
41:57I did it for style
41:59The accident
42:01My driver got hit
42:03In the dash cam
42:05We stopped for 5-10 minutes
42:07Stopped drinking
42:09Stopped
42:11For human logic
42:13We stopped
42:15Refresh
42:17But if you look at the accident
42:19If you look at Facebook or social media
42:21They said it was an accident
42:23The car was totally destroyed
42:25Our car was the one that hit the trailer
42:27Not the trailer that hit us
42:29Intentionally hit
42:31My driver was blind
42:33When he was driving
42:35He didn't see anything
42:37When he checked with the eye specialist
42:39He said this is not his field
42:41He was hit while driving
42:43To kill
42:45The driver was blind
42:47My car was totally destroyed
42:49I broke my leg
42:51My hand, my head
42:5333 stitches
42:55Imagine when the accident happened
42:57He was blind
42:59So
43:01This was when you were in the middle of the process
43:03Yes
43:05The process
43:07That's when we realized
43:09Not everyone likes what we do
43:11Not only that
43:13When I was recovering
43:15I couldn't sleep for 2 months
43:17Every night I felt like my leg was burned
43:19I couldn't sleep
43:21It was as thin as a shotgun
43:23I think I was around 60 kg
43:25Yes
43:27Now I'm 85 kg
43:29I used to feel like I was going for a urine test
43:31Because I couldn't sleep
43:33I couldn't eat
43:35I couldn't do anything
43:37Every night I would dream
43:39Until I was in the top
43:41I studied Islam
43:43Until I became a ghostbuster
43:47To figure out what's going on
43:49Yes
43:51To figure out what's going on
43:53Do you know who did it?
43:55I don't know
43:57I don't know
43:59But there were a lot
44:01We knew the enemies
44:03But to figure out
44:05What broke our hearts
44:07I prayed
44:09May Allah give us strength
44:11Hopefully it didn't happen
44:13But it didn't stop me
44:15My family, my father
44:17My children
44:19Every night at 3 am
44:21There was a friend
44:23In the lake
44:25My son was playing hide and seek
44:27He was wearing hijab
44:29He was disturbing my family
44:31Imagine at home
44:33You were talking
44:35My legs were broken
44:37I couldn't walk
44:39I was lying on my bed
44:41He was talking
44:43I was in the room for 10 minutes
44:45He went outside
44:47I was in front of the TV
44:49I was alone
44:51He was out for an hour
44:53He broke the door
44:55But there was no one
44:57Which door?
44:59The one outside
45:01He was talking
45:03He was disturbing
45:05I didn't know he could talk
45:07I didn't know he could talk
45:09I didn't know he could talk
45:11Allah said in the Quran
45:13Believe in Allah
45:15But Allah didn't show it
45:17Even to the staff
45:19They were disturbed
45:21It was the same dream
45:23It was like an Astro channel
45:25All channels
45:27The same
45:29Astro Real
45:31It was the same
45:33I never asked
45:35After I was disturbed
45:37In 2019
45:39One of my staff passed away
45:41I was alone
45:43I didn't have an office
45:45Usually there's a CEO's office
45:47I didn't have one
45:49I didn't have to sit in the CEO's office
45:51I was eating
45:53I was eating
45:55I didn't have to sit in the office
45:57If I sat in the office
45:59I would get a stroke
46:01So what happened
46:03There was a guy
46:05He passed away
46:07I didn't have a place in the office
46:09I told him to sit in front of me
46:11He sat in front of the CEO
46:13I told him to sit in front of the CEO
46:15I told him to sit in front of the CEO
46:17So
46:19At that time
46:21I didn't know
46:23The magic was placed in the office
46:25Allah
46:27How could I know
46:29I didn't know
46:31Maybe he heard
46:33His journey
46:35He went to my office
46:37In Madad
46:39He was disturbed
46:41He told his mother
46:43So he told his mother
46:45Allah bless him
46:47His mother asked him many times
46:49If he was disturbed
46:51He would go to the Ustaz
46:53He said
46:55He would do it to me
46:57But I was busy
46:59I had a program in KL
47:01So he messaged me
47:03He said he wanted to talk to me
47:05I was like
47:07So
47:09He passed away
47:11Allah
47:13So I went to the Ustaz
47:15His mother told me
47:17He couldn't sleep for 3 weeks
47:19He had nightmares
47:21He was disturbed
47:23So
47:25I asked one of his teachers
47:27Can you do a clearing in the office
47:29After he passed away
47:31I called the staff
47:33We did a survey
47:35They planted a plastic
47:37Inside
47:39There were human bones
47:41Bones
47:43Magic stuff
47:45It was impossible
47:47It was possible
47:49It was all magic
47:51Like a statue
47:53When I checked
47:55The magic was done to me
47:57I was supposed to sit there
47:59But I didn't
48:01I didn't want to camp
48:03I didn't want to go to the office
48:05I was afraid of the magic
48:07But it was there
48:09I wrote a book
48:11About how to take care
48:13From being disturbed
48:15From the magic
48:17I didn't sell the book
48:19You can get it for free
48:21There were 160 books
48:23We prepared
48:25If you open it
48:27On the page
48:29We didn't charge
48:31I wrote the book
48:33I didn't want to sell it
48:35I wanted people to read it
48:37I wrote a lot of books
48:39To be hung
48:41To be proud
48:43In the book
48:45We wrote
48:47The same story
48:49The publisher
48:51Was big in Malaysia
48:53So
48:55I wanted to print the book
48:57I wanted the same story
48:59I didn't take any royalty
49:01For me
49:03I didn't want people to go through
49:05What I went through
49:07It was painful
49:09My family
49:11My children
49:13My wife
49:15I think with my age
49:17We shouldn't face it
49:19We should enjoy
49:21And I thought
49:23The message of Dawah
49:25Must be smooth
49:27But no
49:29It's not fair
49:31People report the SPRM
49:33People accuse us of lying
49:35We are the only Dawah center
49:37In 2020-2021
49:39We got a special award
49:41Integrity
49:43Because
49:45We didn't charge
49:47I didn't charge
49:49If there was a charge
49:51I would give it back
49:53Since 2018
49:55I didn't charge
49:57I didn't charge
49:59I didn't ask for commission
50:01I didn't ask for it
50:03I went to
50:05The SPRM office
50:07The director was Dato' Sharum
50:09I said I wanted to
50:11Report on Muhammad Yusra
50:13I went to the IC
50:15He said Yusra is you
50:17I said I wanted to report on myself
50:19It was confusing
50:21He opened the case
50:23We did the report
50:25We didn't charge
50:27If there was a charge
50:29It wasn't me
50:31When the SPRM came in
50:33We did the report
50:35It was proven
50:37We sent an audit report
50:39To the SPRM
50:41To the
50:43LJDN
50:45To the religious office
50:47To the authority
50:49To the religious office
50:51To the SPRM
50:53For strategic and integrity
50:552020-2021
50:57So when someone accused us
50:59We lost it
51:01Who was brave enough
51:03To do it
51:05He accused us
51:07We didn't pay attention
51:09Are you happy with
51:11What you have achieved
51:13Or is there anything else?
51:15Honestly
51:17We are not finished
51:19With what we are doing
51:21There are a few more things that we are still trying to do
51:24For example, we want to build an old-age home, a hospitality
51:28I dream of building a hospitality for old-age people
51:30Meaning people who are not around, family, etc.
51:34Come, I have a doctor, I have a nurse
51:36Because now we already have an ambulance, we have an ambulance, we have a washing machine
51:40All of this is for free service
51:42If you come that day, for example, the death statistics
51:46Our ambulance, this ambulance manages the funeral for free
51:49I think more than 3,000 funerals have been managed for free
51:52We don't have a license to take
51:54But one thing I think
51:57These things, Allah willing
52:00How do I, who wants to sustain
52:03If Allah doesn't want me to die, who wants to manage
52:05Then I want these old people to come
52:07So they come and donate for free
52:09But they help manage the funerals
52:11At that age, the best chance is that we are close
52:13Because death is
52:14It's hard for everyone to be a funeral
52:17But for them, there can be a CSR too
52:19Even though it's not easy, they can help manage it
52:21But now it's easier
52:23So there are staff who are still in charge of the funerals
52:27The washing machine, the cat house, the horse house
52:30Like a cat, there are 200
52:31There are 16 staff
52:33No payment
52:34If you come to see, you want to pee in that place
52:37No payment or anything
52:38So the one and only thing we have to fight and struggle
52:42Is to sustain
52:44That's why up until now, my Master's and PhD
52:46I've been writing about the sustainability of death
52:49How is it that death
52:51Brother, if I don't write, if I don't prove it in academics
52:55Then what we do might only succeed for us
52:57People can't follow
52:59So I have to prove it in academics
53:01With data, with statistics
53:03With proven methods of research
53:08So that if Allah doesn't want me to die
53:10So people can go and look for that research
53:13To make it back
53:15Build it like that
53:16Masjid, surau, or da'wah centers
53:18Because now, the majority of da'wah centers
53:20To be honest
53:23Depends on crowdfunding
53:25We have to
53:28So it's an alternative
53:29For me, we don't depend on any
53:33Papua-Megaholding company
53:37Or the government
53:39It means it can sustain by itself
53:42That's the point we want
53:44It's really amazing
53:45Actually, we have a lot more to talk about
53:46From Ustaz Yaakob Yusra
53:47This is only 10% of the story from Ustaz
53:51Ustaz, if we can have the second part
53:53InshaAllah, Ustaz
53:54So this is a chance for us
53:55But it's Ustaz's time
53:57Ya Allah, I want to go to another place
53:58Look at that, that's all
53:59Wait, wait, wait, Ustaz
54:00I'm a bit late
54:02Anyway, thank you very much
54:03Once again, Ustaz
54:04Because of being able to be with our podcast
54:07In Zahyan's story space
54:09Okay, Ustaz?
54:10Look, he wants to answer
54:11We're actually busy
54:15Thank you, Ustaz
54:16All the best
54:17We hope MADAT will be an example
54:20For others to build the same place
54:24InshaAllah, to help the community
54:26Assalamualaikum
54:27Assalamualaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh