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00:00Good evening. Welcome to Hatsumimi Stairs.
00:02First, let's welcome the regulars.
00:04Thank you for having us.
00:08And today, we have a special guest.
00:11He's here for the second time in the studio.
00:13He's a champion.
00:15The winner of the Stairs Strongest Tournament 2022,
00:18Mr. Ryokichi Iyama.
00:20Thank you for having me.
00:22Let's talk more about Stairs.
00:25I really love Stairs.
00:27I love it.
00:28I've been talking about Stairs for a long time.
00:31My brother always tells me to shut up.
00:34Your real brother?
00:35Yes, he always sends me a message in the car.
00:38I talk about Stairs because I think it's good.
00:40I don't want to just send him a message.
00:43He says, you talk too much and it's annoying.
00:46In Yoshimoto's theater,
00:48when the cast wants to relax,
00:51Mr. Iyama always talks about Stairs.
00:54One or two people talk about it,
00:55and in the end, no one is there.
00:57When I hear that, I want to talk about it.
01:00You really love Stairs.
01:02There are a lot of people who talk about Stairs,
01:04but I think it's number one.
01:06Maybe.
01:08Now, let's move on to this segment.
01:10It's the Hatsumimi Idobata Conference.
01:12In this segment,
01:14we will talk about the topics
01:16that have been decided every week.
01:19On the 19th of March,
01:22we will talk about the day
01:24we recruited a new resident.
01:26What day is that?
01:28You must have run out of ideas.
01:32So, today's topic is
01:34Stairs.
01:36We have a lot of people here.
01:38There are a lot of people here.
01:40That's great.
01:42Everything looks interesting.
01:44One thing that caught my eye
01:46was
01:48Issei Rito.
01:50Issei Rito?
01:51It's not Stairs.
01:53It's me.
01:55About 10 years ago,
01:57I was a reporter
01:59for a TV program.
02:01There was an island.
02:03From that island,
02:05I went on a boat.
02:07There was a place called
02:09Senpuku Kirishitan.
02:11I really liked Christianity,
02:13but I shouldn't have said it.
02:15I was a believer,
02:17but I shouldn't have said it.
02:19There was an island there.
02:21There was a church
02:23that was used at that time.
02:25There was a village.
02:27There was a place
02:29like a house there.
02:31Everything was left there.
02:33I couldn't take it out.
02:35Because Issei Rito was held,
02:37I couldn't take it out,
02:39so I left a bowl and a tableware
02:41there.
02:43A lot of things happened
02:45before I left.
02:47I heard a loud noise
02:49from the island.
02:51I was surprised.
02:53There was only one person
02:55living on the island,
02:57but he was treated
02:59as if he was living
03:01to manage the island.
03:03I wondered what it was.
03:05When I turned around,
03:07I could see the inside
03:09from the veranda.
03:11Only the room where the streetlight
03:13was lit up
03:15had a blanket
03:17and I couldn't see
03:19the inside at all.
03:21To be honest,
03:23I didn't know
03:25what it was.
03:27It was creepy.
03:29The blanket was tight.
03:31That's right.
03:33I wonder if he was trying
03:35to hide something.
03:37I feel like there was
03:39something intentional.
03:41Islands have
03:43their own unique culture.
03:45Let's move on.
03:47Newspaper delivery.
03:49This is me.
03:51Let's say I'm T.
03:53When I was a student,
03:55T started a part-time job
03:57delivering newspapers.
03:59When he started his part-time job,
04:01he was assigned
04:03to deliver newspapers
04:05to a building.
04:07That building was
04:09a large building
04:11with 14 floors.
04:13First,
04:15he had to go up to the 14th floor
04:17by elevator.
04:19Then, he had to go down
04:21to the 13th floor
04:23and then to the 12th floor.
04:25A few months later,
04:27on a winter morning,
04:29he went to the building
04:31as usual.
04:33The elevator
04:35opened
04:37and he got on.
04:39It was early in the morning
04:41and there was no one there.
04:43He got on the elevator
04:45and was waiting
04:47with his eyes closed.
04:49Suddenly,
04:51the elevator stopped.
04:53When he opened his eyes,
04:55he saw the 8th floor.
04:57He wondered why it stopped
04:59and looked down.
05:01There was a boy
05:03in the elevator.
05:05He was half-sleeved
05:07and half-pants.
05:09He wondered
05:11what the boy was doing.
05:13The door opened
05:15and the boy came out.
05:17There was no one there.
05:19He wondered
05:21what he had seen.
05:23He was scared.
05:25But he had to work
05:27so he got on the elevator
05:29and started delivering newspapers.
05:31He was delivering in order.
05:33Finally,
05:35the boy got off
05:37and there was an iron door
05:39in the corridor.
05:41He opened the door
05:43and something
05:45hit him.
05:47He opened the door
05:49and saw
05:51the boy
05:53who was half-sleeved.
05:55He realized
05:57he was not alive.
05:59He was half-sleeved.
06:01He laughed
06:03and opened the door
06:05and saw the boy
06:07who was half-sleeved.
06:09He laughed
06:11and wondered
06:13what he should do.
06:15He wanted to run away
06:17but he had to deliver newspapers.
06:19He opened the door
06:21and there was no one there.
06:23He delivered newspapers
06:25and came back.
06:27He apologized
06:29to the boy.
06:31He said
06:33his boss
06:35finally saw him.
06:37But he was told
06:39he was the tallest.
06:41He started working there
06:43and he was in charge
06:45of the company.
06:47He worked there for a week
06:49and saw the boy.
06:51There are many interesting stories
06:53about the company.
06:55Let's talk about another one.
06:57Do you have any title you are interested in?
06:59I was interested in Harmonica
07:01I will draw a picture of the wall.
07:05Senka-san?
07:07It's a house in Kansai.
07:09My family moved in there.
07:11As soon as I entered,
07:13I started using it
07:15as a children's room.
07:17I was so curious
07:19about this room.
07:21I didn't want to enter.
07:23One day,
07:25I noticed
07:27there was a picture
07:29of a little girl
07:31on the wall.
07:33It was beautiful
07:35but it was a picture
07:37of a little girl
07:39in the first grade.
07:41I said,
07:43don't scribble.
07:45But it wasn't me.
07:47It wasn't a first grader.
07:49It was a picture
07:51of a little girl
07:53like a flower.
07:55I didn't know what it was.
07:57I said it wasn't me.
07:59I started crying.
08:01I realized it wasn't me.
08:03As soon as I saw the picture,
08:05I realized
08:07it was a picture of a little girl.
08:09When I was sleeping in the bedroom,
08:11I could hear someone
08:13walking in the hallway.
08:17I didn't know what it was
08:19but I could hear someone
08:21coming closer.
08:23A black person
08:25often happens.
08:27I thought
08:29it was strange.
08:31I realized
08:33that the picture
08:35was different.
08:37It was different from
08:39the picture I had drawn.
08:41I was talking to
08:43an experienced person on the phone.
08:45I heard a voice
08:47saying,
08:49Mom,
08:51I'm talking to
08:53a girl
08:55on the stairs.
08:59The girl said,
09:01I saw a boy
09:03sitting on his knees
09:05when I moved in here.
09:07She said that
09:09on the phone.
09:11Something strange
09:13had been going on
09:15since I moved in here.
09:17She said
09:19it wasn't me.
09:23I was worried
09:25because I had seen
09:27a boy sitting on his knees.
09:29Maybe the boy
09:31was drawing a picture.
09:33If so,
09:35I would say
09:37the boy changed his drawing.
09:39But I don't remember
09:41the boy was drawing a picture.
09:43I see.
09:45So,
09:47the girl
09:49was drawing a picture
09:51when she realized
09:53that the boy
09:55was drawing a picture.
09:57I thought so.
09:59I was wondering
10:01if it was okay
10:03to keep living there.
10:07Let's move on to the next segment.
10:09It's called Short Stairs.
10:11The staff actually waited
10:13and gathered the stairs
10:15from the public
10:17and introduced the short stairs
10:19to the audience.
10:21Let's take a look at the short stairs.
10:23Hatsumimi Short Stairs.
10:29There is a place
10:31called Shiga Castle
10:33where people say
10:35they were hanged.
10:37When I was a student,
10:39I tried on a kimono
10:41with my friends here.
10:43We were eating sweets
10:45and someone said
10:47to me,
10:49please don't do that.
10:51What?
10:53There were dried leaves
10:55around the place.
10:57When someone came close,
10:59I heard a noise.
11:01I ran away in a hurry.
11:03When I got a sheet,
11:05there was a word
11:07written in red
11:09and I was surprised.
11:11Half a year later,
11:13my friend's house
11:15was burned down.
11:17I was convinced that
11:19it was the curse of that time
11:21because I saw a word
11:23that said
11:25to stop.
11:27That's scary.
11:29To stop means
11:31to stop, right?
11:33I wonder what it means.
11:35But if the word
11:37was written
11:39on the sheet,
11:41it would be connected
11:43to the curse of that time.
11:45At the execution ground,
11:47the deceased
11:49was a criminal.
11:51He was a criminal
11:53and he was arrested
11:55and killed.
11:57He wanted to live
11:59but he couldn't.
12:01In the past,
12:03there were a lot of crimes.
12:05I think it's okay
12:07to have a grudge.
12:09No discrimination.
12:11To stop means
12:13to make a grudge.
12:15I think it's like that.
12:17To stop the other side.
12:19The word
12:21to stop means
12:23to hate indiscriminately.
12:25It's usually just a name.
12:27To stop means
12:29to make a grudge.
12:31For example,
12:33to stop the island.
12:35Stop it.
12:37Then,
12:39I'll make a grudge.
12:41I don't care who it is.
12:43Execution is not an individual thing.
12:45It's scary.
12:47At that time,
12:49I did my best.
12:51I was angry and I was robbed.
12:53This is the translation app.
12:57Let's move on
12:59to the next corner.
13:01It's the first take.
13:03From now on,
13:05we will show you
13:07the first take.
13:09Today's performer is
13:11Ryokichi Iyama.
13:15I'm shaking.
13:17I'm the most nervous
13:19among all the performers.
13:21I'm scared.
13:23It's not easy
13:25to be alone on the stage.
13:27That's right.
13:29I want to see her
13:31as a princess.
13:33Today,
13:35we will show you the first take.
13:37Ryokichi Iyama,
13:39thank you.
13:41It was a few years ago.
13:43I talked to
13:45a manager of a restaurant.
13:47He said
13:49that the part-time job
13:51at a restaurant
13:53is quite expensive in spring.
13:55People who have been working for a long time
13:57go to a new school
13:59or get a job
14:01in spring.
14:03Many people gather
14:05to fill the gap.
14:07That's why it's expensive in spring.
14:09One year,
14:11a lot of people
14:13quit their jobs
14:15at a restaurant.
14:17Three people
14:19got a part-time job.
14:21One of them
14:23is an Asian foreigner.
14:25The other two
14:27are Japanese.
14:29Asian foreigners
14:31work in a kitchen.
14:33They don't have a job.
14:35But they use a translation app
14:37to translate
14:39words that don't come out.
14:41After hiring these three people,
14:43there are
14:45a lot of cash outages.
14:47It's definitely a minus.
14:49I thought
14:51there was such a thing,
14:53but the amount of minus
14:55is increasing.
14:57I thought
14:59there was such a thing.
15:01The amount of minus
15:03is increasing.
15:05It's definitely a thief.
15:07I thought
15:09these three people
15:11were suspects
15:13because they got angry
15:15after hiring these three people.
15:17One of them
15:19was a Japanese newcomer
15:21with a bad personality.
15:23I thought he was the one,
15:25but I wasn't sure.
15:27An Asian foreigner
15:29who didn't speak Japanese
15:31yelled at the manager.
15:33I didn't know what he was saying.
15:35I told him to calm down
15:37and speak in Japanese.
15:39I told him to speak in a translation app.
15:41Apparently,
15:43a wallet was stolen
15:45from an Asian locker.
15:47He was angry.
15:49I thought,
15:51he was also stolen.
15:53I thought,
15:55he was also stolen.
15:57I thought,
15:59he was also stolen.
16:01I thought,
16:03he was also stolen.
16:05That's when
16:07he started having a bad mood.
16:09He started having a bad mood.
16:11His manager asked,
16:13if he was okay.
16:15He was fine.
16:17He was fine.
16:19He was fine.
16:21He was fine.
16:23Even if I told him to take a day off, he wouldn't listen.
16:26I went to the hospital, but he wouldn't understand.
16:28He was in such a state that he kept going to work.
16:31When I thought something was wrong,
16:33he finally asked his manager,
16:35if he could have a little time.
16:37I asked him what happened.
16:39He said, in fact, I had stolen all the cash.
16:43I had stolen all the wallets in the locker.
16:48He confessed.
16:50Of course, I went to the police.
16:52There was a lot of compensation.
16:54I thought it was strange.
16:58Because there was no evidence.
17:02He should have been able to escape.
17:04He should have been able to escape if he had resigned
17:08because he was in a bad condition.
17:10But for some reason, he kept working.
17:12At this timing, he confessed.
17:15I thought something was wrong.
17:18I thought it was okay because it was solved.
17:21After that, he died.
17:23He was the culprit.
17:26Two or three years later,
17:28he graduated from an Asian foreign university in the spring.
17:33At this time, he was already fluent in Japanese.
17:37He hardly used a translation app.
17:39His manager was talking.
17:41Thank you for the past few years.
17:43Thank you very much.
17:45When you came in, there was a lot going on.
17:48Did you get robbed?
17:50That's right.
17:52He said, I did my best at that time.
17:56What did you do?
17:58I did my best at that time.
18:00I was irritated, so I was robbed.
18:03What did you do your best?
18:07I wondered what to say.
18:10After a long time, a foreign woman
18:12released a translation app.
18:14It was written as a curse.
18:17I was cursed.
18:19No matter what kind of curse it was,
18:21I laughed and answered.
18:23But I continued to work hard.
18:26I cursed like I was losing weight.
18:30My manager said,
18:33You were one of the suspects at that time.
18:36I've been pretty strict with you.
18:40The curse wasn't on me.
18:44He said,
18:46You looked good and laughed.
18:49You should be kind to people.
18:53Thank you very much.
19:01I think it's a curse that affects people's guilt.
19:07Guilt?
19:11It was a bad story.
19:15I don't know when people will resent me.
19:20I'm curious about where foreigners are from.
19:26I think the type of curse will change depending on the country.
19:31I was even more curious about what kind of curse they used.
19:38I'm curious about what kind of curse they used.
19:42I'm sorry.
19:43It's just my imagination.
19:45My boss said,
19:47You cursed me and laughed.
19:49You laughed at the end.
19:51But my boss wasn't aware of it.
19:54He was fine.
19:56He said, Did you curse me at that time?
19:58I'm sorry.
19:59It's just my imagination.
20:01I think it's a curse that affects people's guilt.
20:06Guilt?
20:07He confessed at the end.
20:09He knew he was cursed.
20:15I'm curious about what kind of curse they used.
20:19I'm curious, too.
20:20I think that kind of curse goes beyond the country.
20:26I think that kind of curse goes beyond the country.
20:33I think I've learned a new kind of fear.
20:39In Japan, it's very difficult to get rid of a curse.
20:45I'm afraid of people who use such a curse.
20:51Many foreigners are coming to Japan.
20:54I think it's scary to curse someone who is not from Japan.
21:03I think it's scary to curse someone who is not from Japan.
21:09I agree.
21:10To be continued.
21:12How was it?
21:14We're always looking for new experiences.
21:18We have a lot of unique stories.
21:22Today's guest was Ryokichi Iyama.
21:25Thank you very much.

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