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00:00If I lose my current speed, I'll retire.
00:04It's no fun.
00:07Ando Tadao is a Japanese architect.
00:11He was born and raised in Osaka.
00:15He always surprises people with innovative ideas.
00:19He is still making his name known from Osaka to the world.
00:25His life span is 100 years.
00:27He lives his youth like an unripe apple.
00:30Mr. Ando, who has a life of his own,
00:32talks to the top of the world.
00:35This is Ando Tadao's youth talk.
00:39Today's guest is a photographer and film director,
00:43Mikasa Minagawa.
00:46I'm so excited to be an architect.
00:52I'm so excited.
00:56I feel like I've seen a great movie.
00:59Mr. Ando and his friends will talk to each other
01:02and send an email to you, who lives a life span of 100 years.
01:23Today's guest is a photographer and film director,
01:27Mikasa Minagawa.
01:29She is an artist with many talents,
01:32including art, design, and other activities.
01:38I know my father well.
01:41He passed away in 2016.
01:45Before that,
01:47I don't know why I'm here today.
01:52Three of us got the Literature Award together.
01:58In 1997,
02:02we built a house in Awajishima.
02:06Mr. Minagawa and I decided to have a talk.
02:12We had a talk,
02:15and I wondered why my father had passed away.
02:19I still have a long way to go.
02:23I'd like to ask you, Mr. Ando,
02:26why you continue to build your house so energetically.
02:32I think it's because of your father.
02:36He was always looking forward.
02:39My father was like a young boy.
02:45Do you often feel the same way?
02:49I often went to see his plays in Osaka.
02:58The most memorable scene for me was
03:04the scene in which he sang to us.
03:13Mr. Minagawa is always moving,
03:17and he always has someone to talk to.
03:20It's difficult.
03:22He's a young boy.
03:25I'm looking at your photos now,
03:32and I think it's natural.
03:34It's different every time.
03:36I think it's amazing.
03:40I wonder where it comes from.
03:50Kyoto Art Museum is quite big.
03:54It's surprisingly big.
03:56I think it's amazing that you can have a conversation
04:02without being overwhelmed by the big museum.
04:08I'm very nervous now.
04:11I love Mr. Ando's architecture.
04:14I've been to see some of his works.
04:18I've heard a lot about him from my father.
04:21I've been wanting to go there for about three years.
04:24It's a dramatic space.
04:27Mr. Ando's architecture is so different from
04:31the architecture I saw before and after I came here.
04:34It's so different.
04:36I feel like my life has changed.
04:41It's like I'm growing up in a theater.
04:44It's like a real theater.
04:47I really love it.
04:50I wanted to tell you that.
04:52I think it's different from architecture.
04:55It's alive.
04:59I think he's telling us to look at what's beyond the picture.
05:06I think we should look at these pictures
05:11and think more carefully.
05:16I think what I'm taking isn't something special.
05:22I think it's an angle that cuts through the world.
05:26As Mr. Ando said,
05:29I think it's important to look at the beauty
05:32that's hidden behind the beauty.
05:35I think it's important to pick up the beauty
05:38that's hidden behind the beauty.
05:43I think the world is interesting
05:46because there's a sense of justice behind it.
05:49I think it's interesting.
05:52I believe that there is beauty
05:55wherever you look.
05:58That's why I take pictures every day.
06:01The amount of passion I have for photography
06:04is increasing day by day.
06:07I'm taking a lot of pictures.
06:10I can't get enough of it.
06:13Even now,
06:15there are so many wonderful things happening here and there.
06:18I'm nervous.
06:21It's a world that transcends everyday life.
06:28People who make interesting things
06:31try to make things they've never seen before.
06:35But it's not like that.
06:37It's something that's beyond everyday life.
06:40I think young people should take a step forward
06:45when they look at this world.
06:49That's what I want to say.
06:56When you're making something,
06:59what's the most interesting moment for you?
07:03When I'm making something,
07:06I think about myself,
07:09the economy,
07:12and the conversation I have with others.
07:16I've been working on five magazines this morning.
07:21The cover is like this.
07:24The cover is like this.
07:27You've worked on all the details.
07:30The cover is like this.
07:33Make it a little brighter.
07:36It won't be bright.
07:39The photographer said,
07:42Oh, no.
07:45It's hard.
07:46Where does that energy come from?
07:49That's what life is about.
07:51You have to keep making things.
07:54Photographers have to take pictures of the moment.
08:02It's wonderful because you're putting your life into the moment.
08:05The moment is art.
08:07I can't put it all together.
08:10I can't put it all together.
08:13When I'm shooting,
08:16I can see 360 degrees.
08:19I can see 360 degrees.
08:22It's different from usual.
08:25It's different from usual.
08:28I'm putting my life into that moment.
08:31I'm putting my life into that moment.
08:34That's a little scary.
08:36We need energy.
08:38When I look at cheers,
08:40I need to work harder.
08:43I want to create a place that people have never seen
08:48I want to create a space that people have never seen
08:53But it's bouncing.
08:56The architecture...
08:59I'm thrilled.
09:02It's like watching a really good movie.
09:05It's like watching a really energetic play.
09:08It's like experiencing a life-changing experience.
09:10That's what I do when I go around Ando-san's buildings.
09:20This photographic art is...
09:23It's going all over the world on time.
09:25It's going all over the world on time.
09:27It's not just going on the internet.
09:31Everyone understands it in an instant.
09:34Everyone thinks,
09:36This is amazing. Where is this photographer?
09:40There are 85 of them now.
09:43Everyone is looking at it.
09:45India, Sri Lanka, Malaysia.
09:50Everyone is looking.
09:52She's sending it to the world in an instant.
09:56It's a terrible thing.
09:59That's why there are people from India at the Kyoto Exhibition.
10:04There are Chinese people, too.
10:06There are people like that.
10:08It's a hard job to appeal to people.
10:15It's a hard job.
10:17I want to get that appreciation and sell it to people.
10:26In the end, art is...
10:29It's important to people all over the world who have a high sensibility.
10:51Next week, we'll continue with Mika Ninagawa.
10:55It's a battle from 60 to 85.
11:01That's a very reassuring word.
11:03It's up to 85, up to 90.
11:06For women, that's the problem.
11:11Ando Tadaten Youth Open!
11:15It's an exhibition where you can see the vision of the future from the miracle of the challenge from Osaka to the world.
11:23Tickets are on sale!