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00:00Now speaking of free agents that we have have been hoping the Patriots would pursue or that
00:05the Patriots may currently be pursuing, as we teased moments ago, Andy, our pal Karen Garigian,
00:11formerly of the Herald, now at MassLive, just published an article no more than 20 minutes ago
00:17with the headline, Patriots are definitely among Cooper Cup suitors.
00:22Comma.
00:23Among.
00:24But with a caveat.
00:25I don't like caveats.
00:26Here we go again.
00:27Here we go.
00:28Now, I got to tell you, Stan.
00:29The interest is, I'm going to tell you right now, I'm about to get out there in the streets of
00:34Chelsea slash Everett slash wherever it is you're calling home these days, and I am going to bang
00:39that trash can yelling, don't be cheap because here's what here's what you're getting.
00:44According to a source, the Patriots are currently interested in bringing in the veteran wide
00:49out aboard.
00:50However, Cups asking price at the moment is a bit too steep.
00:55Of course it is.
00:56It's certainly possible another team, and there are reportedly five in the mix,
00:59will meet the former Super Bowl MVP is contract demands.
01:02For now, the Patriots are content to see if Cup alters his stance.
01:06Full stop editorial note.
01:08See a cup.
01:09I bet you one of those other five teams went to the playoffs last year or maybe a top ten
01:14contender for the Super Bowl and didn't finish four and 13.
01:18It isn't in such dire, desperate need of a wide receiver.
01:21Holy smokes.
01:22Does somebody down there not realize how badly they need a grown up wide receiver one slash
01:28former wide receiver one to come and take targets and to come drag coverage away from
01:33these kids and also teach them how to play the position properly and be a thunder buddy
01:37to Drake may do not cheap out on this.
01:40Patriots spend the money overpay.
01:42You're not in a position to demand his salary needs.
01:45Pay the man his money.
01:46I'm losing my breath.
01:47It also says in there they already cheaped out that the reason they didn't pursue him
01:51via trade was that the contract was too big.
01:53The contract wasn't too big for a team with 130 million dollars in the on the cap at the
01:58time.
01:58Let me and I'm a fan of a Cooper Cup, but I'm going to do what you do is just push back
02:02because you have fun pushing back.
02:04Yeah.
02:04So they signed Carlton Davis, who's going into his eighth year in the league.
02:10They signed Morgan Moses, who's going into his 12th year in the league.
02:14They signed Matt Collins, who's going into his ninth year.
02:17Josh Dobbs going into his seventh year.
02:19Robert Spillane going into seventh year.
02:20Harold Landry going into his seventh year.
02:22Do you know the Patriots roster is the oldest roster in the NFL as of today?
02:26OK, the oldest roster.
02:27No, no ish.
02:28So my and there's going to there's a lot of people that would say, well, they overpaid
02:32for a lot of those guys, which who cares?
02:35I don't care.
02:35It's not my money.
02:36Also, I have a type that I could see them looking at this and going, our team's just
02:42getting older and older.
02:43I mean, you got Cooper Cup is going into his ninth year.
02:46He's played eight years and you have to severely overpay for, again, a guy who's aging out.
02:53This is the oldest roster in the NFL right now.
02:55My part of maybe what I think they're probably thinking is they got to get younger if they
03:00can't get younger.
03:02But I'm not saying you do it with this guy.
03:03But my feeling is they're a little bit nervous when they look down and they see the average
03:07age of their current roster.
03:09But isn't wide receiver one of their youngest spots with Jalen Polk, Javon Baker?
03:14I'm one of them.
03:15I'm trying to tell you what I think they're thinking.
03:17I think you keep saying the word, the adult in the room thing.
03:19It's you can be the adult in the wide receiver room where you said the is most needed.
03:24If there's one room, you want an adult and don't want them just screwing around and having
03:27fun.
03:28We learned last year.
03:29That's what I always say.
03:30Yes.
03:30Adult in the room has been the has been the predominant theory or rather the overriding
03:35theory the entire offseason.
03:36Now let's go to another update on Cooper Cup.
03:38Oh, no, he already signed with somebody else.
03:40No, because I would have had Stiz play the Price is Right losing horns if he had.
03:44Uh, this from your boy Giardi, who, by the way, sends his love and says you stink for
03:50picking the Celtics and losing last night.
03:52Sorry, I'm an optimist.
03:54Per Mike Giardi, the Patriots have, quote, reached out to Cooper Cup and believe he prefers
03:58to stay on the West Coast.
04:00The Patriots have not been ruled out just yet, so they're going to have to overpay.
04:05Yeah, so he's he just led us to they're going to be ruled out at some point.
04:09Oh, so help me God.
04:10And they're already making the excuse to the West Coast.
04:13It's already the excuse.
04:14They're laying.
04:15This is like, you know, it's like the girlfriend go to the playoffs in Seattle and Ridley's
04:19girlfriend didn't want to come here.
04:21Then there was this.
04:22It's taxes.
04:23It's the West Coast.
04:24There's always an excuse.
04:25There's the excuse.
04:26Karen just I believe Karen.
04:28Karen is the best ever.
04:29And one thing I like about Mike Vrabel is he's decided Karen gets the first press conference
04:33question.
04:33He even started today before Stacey James was ready.
04:36He's like, Karen, go ahead.
04:37He went.
04:38I love that about Mike Vrabel and his respect for Karen, but she said it.
04:41They're not willing to meet the price.
04:43She didn't mention West Coast, did she at all in her story?
04:46They're already giving us Stizz's interest King excuse.
04:51Oh, he wanted to stay on the West Coast.
04:53It just so happens they paid more than you on the West Coast.
04:56Thank God they didn't give up that seventh round pick to avoid all.
04:59Right, right, right.
05:00Thank God.
05:01They still have that piece to get that massive to get that two of them to seven.
05:06Well, you might even be able to create one Cooper Cup out of those picks.
05:09My God.
05:09No, he had that massive $19 million contract.
05:12$19 million for a wide receiver is nothing in the NFL.
05:16Are we really spending money?
05:17I don't know.
05:18No, we're not.
05:19Joe, we just got the answer right there.
05:20And that is so funny because yesterday I played that same drop and you're like,
05:23we are we are spending money.
05:25Well, we are spending money.
05:26We're just not spending it where we want them to spend the money right now.
05:29And that's with Cooper Cup.
05:30Let's go back to the phone line.
05:31617-779-7937.
05:34Tim in Hanover.
05:35I think he has a comment on this Cooper Cup situation.
05:40100%.
05:41Let me tell you right now, Mike Brable, if you're listening, Mike, you need to get this guy.
05:47He is the key piece for this team going forward because he's going to be a great slot guy
05:53to middle receiver.
05:54You can get a great receiver coming out one of the top five in the draft pick
05:59at number four, and they can go deep for you.
06:02They're young.
06:02They got the speed being Henry or whoever.
06:05I mean, Travis Hunter or whoever it might be.
06:08Take this kid and then work for your alignment and everybody else after that.
06:12Otherwise, you're totally foolish.
06:15Thanks for the call, Tim.
06:16I'm curious what the term is.
06:17I'm curious how many years he wants.
06:18Is that a sticking point?
06:19You know, maybe not just the salary per season, but just, you know, does he want a long deal?
06:25And the Patriots are willing to give him a one year deal or, you know, a two year deal
06:31or one year deal with an option for a second year, that kind of thing.
06:34How long did Tim Brown play for?
06:36He played probably 12 to his middle thirties, right?
06:40So Cooper Cup's 32 years old.
06:41Yes, I understand that's old.
06:42Yes, he would be the oldest receiver.
06:44Yes, the team is older, Ted.
06:46But again, you're trying to create this new culture of leadership.
06:49There's not been a single bad word ever muttered, uttered, printed, blogged about Cooper Cup.
06:54Like he is exactly what you need in terms of prep on field practice Sundays, Mondays,
07:00Thursdays, as Morgan Moses clearly outlined for us.
07:03Can I put it to you this way?
07:04Because we talked about Chris Godwin, you know, Chris Godwin didn't want to come up
07:08here and the Patriots were willing to pay him.
07:10I've heard reports anywhere from four to $10 million more a year than what Tampa Bay was
07:16offering, but he didn't want to come here.
07:19Cooper Cup's from Washington.
07:20He's played his whole career with the ramps.
07:23I mean, it's possible no matter how much money you throw at the guy, he doesn't want to come
07:28here.
07:28Well, so my first, what I want to argue on that is he has to move because the team
07:33cut him that he's on.
07:33So he's going to move somewhere, but then he doesn't actually have to move because you
07:37know who else needs a wide receiver?
07:38Oh, the team that shares a stadium with the Rams.
07:42Oh, the Chargers.
07:42They just re-signed Mike Williams this morning.
07:44Yeah.
07:44I'm just, I'm just saying that's the one thing.
07:47I think he could probably just stay in LA and go to the Chargers.
07:49And then he's on the West coast.
07:50He doesn't have to move, but if he, I'm going to tell you, if I hear like, oh, he signed
07:55with the, uh, the Panthers, it's like, uh, that's not, that's not the West coast.
08:01And because I do think if they have options and they want to go places that it was for
08:07even less money, places that they like places, they feel like they can win places that were
08:11the quality of life is more in line with what they want.
08:14Didn't think about the Chargers.
08:15That makes too much sense.
08:16And he doesn't have to literally doesn't have to move.
08:18He could keep the same apartment or move down the way.
08:22And don't you think that he would be, you line him up?
08:25Yes.
08:25Oh my gosh.
08:26Him and McConkie, it's going to be my receiver dream.
08:29Move kids out here, new schools all the way across country.
08:32It's a pain in the balls, man.
08:33Just like Mike Hampton took all that money because he wanted to bring his kids to school
08:36in Colorado.
08:37So I'll give him the out.
08:38If he goes to the Chargers, I'll just say it was a, a legit veteran.
08:43Didn't want to move.
08:44But if he goes somewhere else, if he moves halfway across the country to the South, to
08:47the East, to the somewhere, I'm not buying any of that crap.
08:50And then I'm going to say the Patriots were cheap and should have just traded for him
08:52and made him get his ass.
08:53Especially if he goes to, if he goes to the bills on like, let's say it's two for 25,
08:57Josh Allen's fun though.
08:58He is.
09:00He didn't take that extra 5 million because he wanted to be able to sign other players.