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00:00Mr. Sakuma, Mr. Hazumi, I'm sorry for the complicated timing.
00:05No, I won't forgive you anymore.
00:08It's completely different from what I heard.
00:11That's right.
00:13That's right.
00:15It's like a trap.
00:16It's like a trap.
00:17It's at the level of a trap.
00:19In the middle of the day.
00:21I'm busy.
00:22Nagano and Iruma helped me a lot on my show.
00:29So I thought, if it's them, I'll do it.
00:31That's how I felt when I received the offer.
00:34About two days ago.
00:35Yes, that's right.
00:36I might be a substitute.
00:38Did you do that once?
00:39Did you do that once?
00:40Did you do that once?
00:41Invite me from here.
00:44That's right.
00:48This program is broadcast at Kanto Local from 1 o'clock at night on Wednesdays.
00:53It's called Hikkakari Nietzsche.
00:56I'll say it without choosing words.
00:58There's that guy.
01:00Yes.
01:01It's a special program in the 22nd generation.
01:03It's a special program in the 22nd generation.
01:04It's a special program in the 22nd generation.
01:05I've been working hard for about five months for a special program.
01:10I have so many things to do.
01:13That's right.
01:14I'll do my best for everyone.
01:15And then.
01:18That's a normal thing.
01:20That's right.
01:21We're two people.
01:22We'll do our best together.
01:23We'll do our best together.
01:24I'm writing too.
01:26That's right.
01:27I'm going to write Achikochi Odori.
01:29Really.
01:30Is that possible?
01:31Achikochi Odori is a special program.
01:35I'm doing two other programs.
01:38Is that so?
01:40I thought it was Luigi Talent.
01:44He was walking with an originality face.
01:47I thought it was Kai Ogan.
01:49It was Kei Jidousha.
01:51It was Kei Jidousha.
01:53This time, Mr. Nagano himself was caught by Mr. Sakuma.
01:56Everyone is drinking water.
01:58What is this?
02:00It's going to start.
02:02I thought it was going to start.
02:04This time, Mr. Nagano was caught by Mr. Sakuma.
02:09Do you get tired of having a variety of attitudes?
02:13I don't know what to say.
02:15I don't know what to say.
02:17It's not that I don't have a variety of attitudes.
02:19It's not that I don't have a variety of attitudes.
02:21I'm on Mr. Sakuma's side.
02:24I want Mr. Sakuma to be comfortable with this special.
02:29I want Mr. Sakuma to be comfortable with this special.
02:31Did you think it was hard?
02:33I saw it.
02:35I saw it.
02:37Last year, Mr. Sakuma was asked.
02:41Why does Mr. Sakuma appear on the show?
02:43I think he should be a comedian if he has a chance to appear.
02:49I was honest.
02:51I was honest.
02:53I think it's okay to say it.
02:55I think it's okay to say it.
02:57People around me say that, so I'm being influenced.
02:59People around me say that, so I'm being influenced.
03:01It's not a big deal.
03:02Yeah, I do that.
03:03At events and stuff.
03:04Yeah, I do that a lot.
03:05And as I was doing that,
03:07there was a moment where my love for him changed.
03:10All of a sudden?
03:11Yes.
03:12You know, Sakuma-san,
03:14you say you're a TV producer, right?
03:17Yes.
03:18When you come on the show.
03:19The title, right?
03:20The title.
03:21I was like,
03:22that's enough.
03:23What?
03:24Seriously.
03:25No, no, no.
03:26But you're a producer.
03:27That's right.
03:28Because,
03:29Terry Ito,
03:30like Genkiya Daily TV,
03:32and all the other producers,
03:34they all come out as Terry Ito.
03:37So I was like,
03:38what's with that backstory?
03:41No one would say that.
03:42That's true.
03:43Maybe they don't know.
03:44Yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:45Even if they don't know,
03:46as an existence,
03:47they know.
03:48Yes, they know Terry-san.
03:49They know him,
03:50and they're like,
03:51he's an amazing person.
03:52And they'll come back later.
03:53But,
03:54when you say you're a TV producer,
03:56I was like,
03:57then,
03:58why do you come out?
04:00I just thought that.
04:02And,
04:03Sakuma-san,
04:04you're doing your best,
04:06and you're making something amazing.
04:08So,
04:09you don't have to be on TV
04:11where there's a bunch of
04:12stupid people like this.
04:16So,
04:17that's an extra element.
04:19So,
04:20just say,
04:21I'm Sakuma.
04:22If you say,
04:23I'm Sakuma,
04:24I don't have to be on TV.
04:26That person,
04:27as a producer,
04:28is more amazing.
04:29And,
04:30he's more delicious.
04:31I see.
04:32That's what I'm saying.
04:33So,
04:34when you come out,
04:35you come out as a talent.
04:36And,
04:37what you're making
04:38is more interesting.
04:39That's the effect.
04:40Yes, yes.
04:41Well,
04:42I see.
04:43But,
04:44in some of the stories,
04:45I want you to tell me
04:46in a good way,
04:47but,
04:48there are too many
04:49entertainers.
04:50Ah.
04:51For me,
04:52on TV,
04:53I want to be where
04:54there's a bunch of stupid people.
04:55I said this before,
04:56right?
04:57The same thing.
04:58Yes.
04:59See,
05:00that's why.
05:01This is...
05:02You don't have to
05:03be your own talent.
05:04No, no, no.
05:05I said it.
05:06Let's hear Sakuma's story.
05:07I said it.
05:08No, no, no.
05:09It's annoying.
05:10It's annoying.
05:11I didn't say that
05:12about the car.
05:13Hey,
05:14don't say that
05:15to a talent.
05:16Don't say that.
05:17Ah,
05:18I wish it was a car.
05:19I wish it was a car.
05:20Ah,
05:21he's different.
05:22I've actually
05:23argued about this
05:24with a car.
05:25What?
05:26When I was on
05:27a podcast about cars,
05:28a podcast about Reiwa,
05:29I said,
05:30well,
05:31please give us
05:32All Night Nippon
05:33with half of the movie.
05:34Ah,
05:35yes.
05:36When I said
05:37that the car
05:38will be the back story,
05:39I said the same thing.
05:40Yes.
05:41I said,
05:42wait a minute.
05:43All Night Nippon
05:44was originally
05:45done by
05:46Shouji Kougami
05:47and many other people
05:48who didn't know
05:49why.
05:50Yes.
05:51And then,
05:52I came across
05:53a variety of programs
05:54other than
05:55comedy.
05:56And I said,
05:57if you're a comedian,
05:58you have to do
05:59something funny.
06:00I hate
06:01that kind of program.
06:02Ah,
06:03that's great.
06:04That's how I
06:05talked with the car
06:06about the Reiwa Romance.
06:08And
06:09now you're
06:10saying
06:11exactly the same thing.
06:12Yes.
06:13I'm really
06:14on the same wavelength
06:15with you.
06:16Ah,
06:17you're really
06:18aiming for that.
06:19When I was a kid,
06:20There were a lot of people like that.
06:23There was a person who said, where did you come from?
06:26I like TV shows with people like that.
06:28There was no one who said, why can't you make a comedy out of that?
06:32There wasn't.
06:33No one.
06:34Well, comedy entertainers have become more interesting, so it can't be helped.
06:38But everything that has happened recently is because entertainers have sold too much.
06:45What people want is that if you're doing news, you can't do scandals.
06:50That's right.
06:51If you're doing commercials, you can't pretend.
06:54I think that's what it's become.
06:57But TV...
06:59I see.
07:01Then I'll accept it.
07:04I'm sorry.
07:07I've been thinking about it, but I've been accepting it for about five minutes.
07:12That's right.
07:14When I go back to this, I can understand what you're saying.
07:18I was told that I was a producer who had a sense of entertainment.
07:23Because I make a project by looking at people.
07:25I'm tired of that.
07:27In short, I've been thinking a lot about what entertainment is.
07:31Because if you think about the entertainer and prepare an environment that is easy to do,
07:37you won't be able to make a place where entertainers complain.
07:41Yes, yes, yes.
07:42And this is because I'm on my own show.
07:46There's a little bit of a bad word from the staff.
07:50I see.
07:51But I think there should be a place where the staff is saying bad things.
07:55I think that's where the story is born.
07:59What I mean is...
08:01I was the type of person who was trying to make a show full of love for entertainers.
08:05I think there's a place where it's getting wet.
08:08I don't think there are people who shine when they're treated more roughly.
08:11In the past, there were talents and stars.
08:14I was treated like a garbage entertainer.
08:17I was in my 20s.
08:19Damn it. Why do you treat entertainers like garbage?
08:22That's why I was making a show.
08:24There's no show that treats entertainers like garbage right now.
08:27It's full of love.
08:29I think it's too much love.
08:31But you made love.
08:33I think that's what you did.
08:35It's love, isn't it?
08:36It's like, I had a lot of fun on the third day of recording.
08:39That's right.
08:41It's similar, isn't it?
08:42You look like you're having a lot of fun.
08:44That's right.
08:45So I want you to change that.
08:48Are you trying to change what you've changed?
08:51That's right.
08:52It's not the flow I made.
08:55There are a lot of different flows.
08:58Don't hurt the entertainers.
09:01Don't make fun of laughter.
09:03That's what's going on.
09:06Other female talents who have stepped on it are getting angry.
09:09I see.
09:11You're making fun of the entertainers.
09:13That's what's going on.
09:15It's too pure.
09:17It's not a cold love for an entertainer.
09:21It's a love for an entertainer in front of you.
09:24That's what it's like.
09:26I don't say it in front of you.
09:28You've created an environment where you have to talk about yourself as a TV producer.
09:33I'm killing myself.
09:37I felt that way.
09:39That may be so.
09:40I worked with entertainers who wanted to sell.
09:43It's not just my power, but I was happy to see them sell.
09:47Of course, they're selling with their own power.
09:49I was happy to be with them.
09:52Then, every time they sell, a job comes to talk about their charm.
09:58Of course, it's a job to be happy and praised, so it's fun.
10:01While I was doing that, I was the one who made the entertainers too great.
10:05That's right.
10:06You made the TV full of entertainers.
10:09I'm telling you now that the TV is full of entertainers.
10:12It's your fault.
10:14I've been alone.
10:16I've been alone all the time.
10:18I made it alone.
10:20I've done too much.
10:22Of course, I think there's a show race.
10:25That's right.
10:27I think the influence of the show race is huge.
10:31Of course, that's true.
10:33But, depending on the variety of entertainment,
10:36I think the show race has permeated the viewers.
10:39I think so, too.
10:40I think it's a show to make the entertainers stand out.
10:43I wanted to have everyone's back view.
10:46It's all because of WACHIKOCHI ODORI.
10:49There are more shows that talk about the back side.
10:52I was a high school student at that time.
10:55It was so much fun that I couldn't help it.
10:57I learned a lot from the show.
10:59You learned a lot from the show.
11:01I want to say one thing.
11:04WACHIKOCHI ODORI is a show that talks about work theory.
11:08As a result of talking about work theory,
11:10the entertainers are talking about what they think.
11:13So, the back side of the show doesn't talk as much as the back side of the show.
11:17However, I think that's how the show is made.
11:21That's why I came here.
11:24The reason why WACHIKOCHI ODORI became such a show is because of KOUJI HIGASHINO.
11:34Is that so?
11:35At first, it was a show about work theory.
11:37But Mr. HIGASHINO misunderstood that it was a show that no one was watching.
11:40He thought I was on TV as a floor director.
11:44He thought I was a staff member.
11:46So I could hear everything that was difficult to hear.
11:49But the story was so interesting that I edited it.
11:54It's all your fault.
11:57It's all your fault.
11:58It's funny.
11:59All my stress in the past 10 years came from this person.
12:04It may have come from this person.
12:06It may have come from this person.
12:08That's why I want to kill him with love.
12:11I want to kill Mr. SAKUMA so far.
12:13Mr. SAKUMA didn't mean to do this, did he?
12:15The show I'm making is not a major show.
12:18I'm making this show with the intention of counterculture.
12:20I'm making this show with the intention of counterculture.
12:22I'm making this show with the intention of counterculture.
12:26The comedy itself has become too mainstream.
12:29It's no longer a counterculture.
12:32This is unexpected.
12:36When Mr. SAKUMA, the TV producer, was on the show,
12:39he was more of a counterculture.
12:43Maybe he was a little too popular.
12:47He was too popular.
12:49I'll go back to the topic.
12:51There are people who say that the comedian's words and the talk technique are not for comedians.
12:59There are people who say that the comedian's words and the talk technique are not for comedians.
13:03Yes.
13:04It's their fault.
13:07There are people who say that this is a business.
13:12They don't like comedians.
13:16There are people who say that this is a business.
13:20There are people who say that this is a business.
13:23As a result of raising the bar high, people have taken over the business.
13:26As a result of raising the bar high, people have taken over the business.
13:30They say that all the techniques are logic.
13:34Mr. Nagano is useless to society.
13:38They say that.
13:40I saw it on TV.
13:41I saw it on TV.
13:43Yeah!
13:45Really?
13:47I forgot what I was going to say.
13:49It's already been discussed.
13:51So what I want to say is
13:53you're going to be like that too.
13:55That's true.
13:57It's already started.
13:59I thought it was a counterculture.
14:01It's not going to be the main,
14:03but it's going to be a counterculture.
14:05That's because you're an old man.
14:07But you're going to be like that too.
14:09I'm going to change the topic.
14:11I understand that a little bit.
14:13When you're like that,
14:15you're very pure,
14:17but you make up a story on your own.
14:19That's right.
14:21Also, Hatsumi...
14:23You were going to say a car.
14:25I was about to cry.
14:27I was about to say a car.
14:29Forget it for now.
14:31I feel sorry for you.
14:33I thought it wasn't a car.
14:35You...
14:37You're watching a man's performance.
14:41I feel sorry for you.
14:43I love you now.
14:45There's always a car on my left side.
14:49It's different.
14:51It's beautiful, but...
14:55What were you talking about?
14:57When I'm talking, I'm pure.
14:59I don't think about that.
15:01You don't think about it,
15:03but as Hatsumi said,
15:05you're a bit hurt.
15:07You don't fit in.
15:09You're just doing it with all your energy.
15:11You think everything is going to work
15:13for your business and the general public.
15:15It's a big mistake.
15:17The reason why Nagano-san recovered
15:19is because Nagano-san recovered.
15:21That's all.
15:23If someone does what Nagano-san says,
15:25it will work out.
15:27But Sakuma-san's variety
15:29is a little bit
15:31of that.
15:33I think the root of it
15:35is the weakening of the TV.
15:37The TV's value
15:39and budget are going down.
15:41The way to fight like me
15:43is in the middle.
15:45You don't have to spend money.
15:47You have to fight with an angle.
15:49Or you have to talk
15:51naked on the street.
15:53That's because there was a
15:55glittering talk variety,
15:57so it was a counter.
15:59The TV has been weakened
16:01by the counter.
16:03You can't put it in.
16:05As a result,
16:07there are more talk programs
16:09like Audrey.
16:11This is a weakening of the main culture.
16:13As a result,
16:15the way I fight
16:17might be more efficient.
16:19I might be able to get results
16:21without spending money.
16:23I don't think it's a good thing
16:25to be brought to the center.
16:27That's why you're using your business.
16:29It's the same in Japan.
16:31That's why it's a weakening.
16:33I was in a talk survival program.
16:35At that time,
16:37the story of Aima
16:39was amazing.
16:41There was a story.
16:43It was like a movie.
16:45The people who were shooting
16:47were serious.
16:49I was watching how they spent time.
16:51I really wanted to shoot a movie.
16:53The part we talked about
16:55in the talk survival program
16:57is actually
16:59not necessary.
17:01It's just a part of the story.
17:03It's just a part of the story.
17:05I want to release it.
17:07I've been in the movie industry
17:09for a long time.
17:11I want to go straight to the movie industry.
17:13I want to say
17:15it's okay.
17:17Is that a gradation?
17:19It's a gradation called variety love.
17:21On the way?
17:23It's a way to be a drama producer.
17:25There are both ways.
17:27I want you to say that.
17:29I want to see it.
17:31I want to see your normal movie.
17:33That's why I'm pulling my legs.
17:35That's a TV producer.
17:37That's a variety love.
17:39I have a lot of feelings
17:41about TV.
17:43I want people to think
17:45that a TV producer can make
17:47such an interesting thing.
17:49I think the TV producer
17:51and TV director
17:53are interesting.
17:55However, there is a trend
17:57that TV is being made fun of.
17:59I want people to think
18:01that TV producers
18:03and TV directors
18:05are interesting.
18:07I want people to think that.
18:09I see.
18:11It's a misunderstanding.
18:13All of it.
18:15Maybe you three think so,
18:17but I only did radio at first.
18:19Radio is not misunderstood.
18:21Most people know
18:23who I am.
18:25I only did radio,
18:27but people know
18:29what kind of person I am.
18:31When I appeared on TV,
18:33many people didn't know
18:35that I had been doing
18:37AD for a long time.
18:39They misunderstood me.
18:41I realized that
18:43talent is painful.
18:45Do you misunderstand
18:47without knowing the context?
18:49I thought it was your fault.
18:51Do you still think so?
18:53It's a misunderstanding.
18:55It's a misunderstanding.
18:57It's a misunderstanding.
18:59Mr. Sakuma,
19:01I have a question.
19:03There is a talk show
19:05about entertainers.
19:07Some people say
19:09that entertainers are not good.
19:11However, the talk show
19:13that Mr. Sakuma and
19:15other cultural people
19:17usually watch
19:19is not good.
19:21When I watch a talk show,
19:23I feel tired.
19:25It's not because of me.
19:27It's because of
19:29Mr. Matsumoto.
19:31It's a story that can't be told.
19:33It's a great word.
19:35It's a story that can't be told.
19:37It's a great word.
19:39It's a story that can't be told.
19:41It's a great word.
19:43I like that kind of talk show.
19:45I saw a talk show
19:47where Mr. Takeshi
19:49and Mr. Sakamoto
19:51smoked together.
19:53I saw that.
19:55I saw that.
19:57I saw that.
19:59I saw that.
20:01Culture is important too.
20:03Culture is important too.
20:05They do it in front of the actor.
20:07They do it in front of the actor.
20:09It's like a culture in front of the actor.
20:11It's like a culture in front of the actor.
20:13It's too amazing!
20:15It's like,
20:17when you say,
20:19you've crossed the line,
20:21it's like,
20:23you just need to get along with people.
20:25There are some comedians
20:27who just make a song,
20:29but when you go to Sakamoto,
20:31don't you go too far with the pillow?
20:33The pillow before going to the main stage.
20:35It's easy to talk when it's bright red.
20:37It's bright red and the surroundings are...
20:39Isn't it the most embarrassing
20:41I've ever seen?
20:43I'm glad you're still in the culture.
20:45I'm glad I'm still in the culture.
20:47I'm still in the culture.
20:49I hid my forehead because
20:51I wanted to carry the culture of Tokyo.
20:53Comedians are told to show their foreheads.
20:55If I show my forehead,
20:57I can't carry the culture anymore.
20:59I want to regain the culture
21:01of that time on TV.
21:03I think it's okay to meet.
21:05I said it's Sakuma's fault,
21:07but now I'm really looking forward to Sakuma,
21:09who is a comedian.
21:11I'm scared of him because he's not a comedian.
21:15I realize he's a terrible person.
21:17I'll do my best.
21:19Isn't it too late?
21:21It's too late.
21:23He's a scary woman played by Miki Nakatani.
21:27I'm happy to hear that her name is Miki Nakatani.
21:29I haven't heard the rest.
21:31I'm Miki Nakatani.
21:35What kind of person is she?
21:37I'm still the same.
21:39As an announcer, it's easier for people like Sakuma-san to speak.
21:44People who watch TV don't look at me coldly, so I'm looking forward to it.
21:48But that's...
21:49The way you look at an announcer is...
21:51The image is shaped by the direction of the activities of the first seniors who quit being an announcer.
21:58Rather than me.
21:59That's why...
22:00If people like Kasumi Mori and Sumi continue to act as talents,
22:06Leave that aside.
22:08I think announcers want to be talents.
22:11I think so, too.
22:12It depends on how the line-up goes.
22:16That's right.
22:17I have no choice but to make myself bloom.
22:21Are you made to feel that way by education?
22:24I've been being trained for about a year since I finished the employment exam.
22:28At that time, I was like,
22:30I was like,
22:32I was told to change everything from the basics.
22:35Does that mean you're going to show your personality?
22:38Did you get rid of it once?
22:39I got rid of it once.
22:41It depends on the era.
22:43The current era is an era of personality.
22:46Suddenly, I was told to show my personality.
22:49At that company.
22:50If I express it like this now, the viewers don't know it.
22:54He's a songstress, but he talks a lot.
22:56I see.
22:57Everyone, notice it.
23:00The flow.
23:01The flow.
23:02It's like a Japanese society's homework.
23:04That's right.
23:05And he talks like,
23:07Is it okay to say this?
23:09It's not something to talk about here.
23:11Mr. Nagano, are you satisfied with this?
23:13Yes.
23:14I'll go to various people.
23:16To people who misunderstand.
23:18Mr. Sakumura.
23:19I'm sure it's okay now.
23:21I'll explain to people who are still messing around there.
23:26I'm a little surprised.
23:27I didn't expect you to talk so much about one theme.
23:30Did you notice that?
23:31That's right.
23:32This program is amazing.
23:34This program is amazing.
23:35It doesn't end with a scream.
23:37It doesn't end when you're exhausted.
23:40It's more like squeezing out as much as you can.
23:43I'm sorry.
23:45Mr. Nagano, when you're about to die.
23:47You sometimes speed up a lot.
23:49That's right.
23:50It's emotional.
23:51If the scene isn't exciting, I'll do my best.
23:55I think this is like an outro.
23:58What do you mean by an outro?
24:00I'm going to use an outro.
24:02Mr. Sakuma, you can't do that.
24:04This TV is new.
24:06Are you going to use an outro?
24:07This program is new.
24:09It's a sub-script era, but you're going to use an outro.
24:12Mr. Sakuma, you should get along with Akiyama.
24:16I'm going to use an outro.
24:17It's not your era.
24:19That man.
24:20I'm sorry.
24:24Next, I heard that Mr. Sakuma is attracted to Mr. Nagano.
24:29Here it is.
24:30What do you think about this era where you have to get along with each other?
24:34You've already hurt a lot of people.
24:37It's not about Mr. Nagano's character.
24:41It's also a problem as a creator.
24:43Now, you don't know what TV is on at what time.
24:48I don't know.
24:49As a result, you will watch it on the Internet.
24:53If you do that, the number of views of TV will increase.
25:02As a result, there will be more talk shows that are close to mouth-to-mouth.
25:09I'm not saying this for a particular program.
25:12I'm also making God Town.
25:14There are a lot of content-related programs.
25:19In the past few years, there have been a lot of mouth-to-mouth programs.
25:26That's fast.
25:27Minamikawa and Kusarigeirin's talk show.
25:38It's a little different from other programs.
25:41Is it that different?
25:43The number of programs where you have to learn the rules and the number of programs where you have to watch the story in the play is lower than before.
25:51That's why you can see what's going on.
25:53It's a variety show with a lot of momentum and firepower.
25:56It's the same with Barabara Daisakusen.
25:58There's also Iguchi's and Kubota's.
26:01There's also Hikkakari Nii-chan.
26:02Mitorizu's program is also the main one.
26:06As a result of saying it in a low voice, Hasumi-kun gets angry.
26:12Hasumi-kun.
26:13I can't say it in a cross.
26:15I was pretty depressed.
26:17It's not a low voice.
26:20In the past, it was done only in the box office.
26:26Now it's like a box-office battle on TV.
26:30Everyone thinks it's a waste.
26:34I don't want to get on it completely.
26:36I have to change it gradually while facing these rules.
26:39I'm wondering what to do.
26:41I see.
26:42I feel like I'm already addicted to this.
26:46I used to love bad words.
26:51It's persuasive that I'm saying it at my age.
26:55I feel like I was saved because I'm going to receive it.
26:59I understand.
27:00Nagano-san is the master of this era.
27:03It's natural.
27:05I feel like I'm in a bad place in an era that doesn't hurt each other.
27:13When I think about this era, I don't think America is good.
27:20Recently, Kendrick Lamar's song, Not Like Us, won the Grammy.
27:26He disses Drake.
27:29He just disses him.
27:31He was dissing him at the Super Bowl halftime show.
27:37But that's not good in Japan.
27:40He disses one person and bullies him.
27:45In other words, there are more amazing things happening outside of our country.
27:51I don't think we can go back to the past.
27:56I don't think so.
27:58I want Nagano-san to be a Kendrick Lamar.
28:04I want him to be so bad that it's not funny.
28:08I see.
28:10I see.
28:12I understand.
28:14It's the same in every show.
28:16I want Nagano-san to be a bad person.
28:23I want him to be a bad person.
28:27I see.
28:29I want him to be a Kendrick Lamar or die with his bad words.
28:33I know.
28:35Not Like Us.
28:37Not Like Us.
28:39I know what you mean.
28:43There are a lot of people who say,
28:45How dare you say that?
28:49You're just a bad person.
28:51You're just hurting people.
28:54Isn't that a lot?
28:56Nagano-san, you said you were hurt.
28:58No, I didn't.
29:00That's why you say that.
29:01After the recording, I went home crying.
29:04It wasn't fun at all.
29:07I hurt people.
29:09I felt like I was carrying karma.
29:11It was dark.
29:13But it was right.
29:15I understand.
29:17How can I say?
29:18It's the same in every era.
29:20There are a lot of bad words.
29:22I agree.
29:23It's not scary to see a person with a clear face on TV.
29:28That's right.
29:29It's creepy.
29:30Everyone is watching it.
29:31It's going around.
29:32It's going around.
29:34Maybe they want to be below them.
29:38Everyone has a feeling of being a victim.
29:41But when children see it on TV,
29:44It's hard to think that it's okay to hurt people.
29:49There are people like Nagano-san who don't seem to be happy.
29:56I'm really like that.
29:59I'm really happy.
30:00You're not happy?
30:02I want to ask you about that.
30:05If you sit down and say,
30:08Well, let's go.
30:09If you're a talent,
30:11I'm really like this.
30:13I have no salvation.
30:15It's like a self-inflicted injury.
30:19I'm not tired.
30:21I want to be tired, but I'm on fire.
30:24It's not fun at all, but people laugh at it.
30:27I'm the victim.
30:29Everyone is laughing with their mouths, but they're crying.
30:33But it's because I'm like this.
30:35I'm sitting here in a happy family life.
30:39If you say you're dissatisfied, I'll kick you out.
30:43I don't think you're dissatisfied.
30:45What do you think about this?
30:47Do you think it doesn't matter when you see people of this generation talking?
30:52Or do you think, I'll do something.
30:54Which one do you go to?
30:56I started on TV recently.
31:00I've only been on TV since this happened.
31:04So when I'm on TV, I think I have to do this.
31:08It's a project like this, but if I don't say something sharp, it won't work.
31:15No, that's...
31:17You're looking down on this show.
31:19It's different here.
31:21It's different here.
31:23Listen to me.
31:25Nakano-san, listen to me.
31:29I'm sorry.
31:33I don't know what I'm doing.
31:36He's cheeky.
31:38He's young.
31:39He's not ugly at all.
31:41He's a subtle guy.
31:43I don't think you should mess with him.
31:45I know.
31:46I totally understand.
31:48Nakano-san, from the first meeting,
31:50He said, I really like a group like you.
31:53You said a group.
31:57I'm a group of victims of Maruti.
32:01Really.
32:02Look at him.
32:04He has a straight face.
32:06That's right.
32:07Like Uehara-kun.
32:09He looks like a victim of Maruti.
32:11Nakano-san and Masaguma-san,
32:14It's good to be in front of people who understand you.
32:17But if you're angry,
32:20If you don't have the motivation to make a big firework,
32:24It's not helpful.
32:26You have to think about it.
32:28He said,
32:30If you have more audience in the theater, that's fine.
32:34I see.
32:35Don't you do this on TV?
32:37I don't do this on TV.
32:39What?
32:41I thought it wasn't suitable.
32:43No way.
32:45At that time, I was looking down on TV.
32:47I thought I could be popular in the theater even if I didn't appear on TV.
32:50But the more I appeared on TV, the more audience I had in the theater.
32:54Did you appear on TV?
32:56When I appeared on TV, I was caught.
32:59Please help me.
33:01But the amount of audience is important.
33:04Did I appear on TV because I was pulled by you?
33:07There was a part where you pulled me to the TV.
33:10I didn't raise my hand.
33:12I said, Come on.
33:14I see.
33:16But I didn't look down on TV at all.
33:18But you appeared on TV.
33:20That's your position.
33:22I should have been on TV if I had a better career.
33:25I should have been on TV if I had a better career.
33:30I should have been on TV if I had a better career.
33:36I think you should be on TV.
33:38I think the next story is close to the current story.
33:43I will talk to you about the next story.
33:49This is the story that SAKUMA was caught by HASUMI.
33:53He said, I've been irritated for the past six months.
33:58This is love.
34:01I was always worried about this.
34:03First of all, HASUMI loves comedy.
34:05But I didn't think I could be a comedian.
34:08So I formed a troupe.
34:10It was fun to act.
34:11I was evaluated by both.
34:13I was absorbed in acting.
34:15I was pulled to the TV.
34:17I was misunderstood.
34:21I was looked down on.
34:23It was difficult to meet an adult who understood my interest.
34:29I don't know about this.
34:31I was conscious of eight people, comedy, and variety.
34:34All of them had the same face.
34:39It was that face.
34:42I didn't have anything to give back.
34:44I was judged by all of them.
34:46I was disappointed.
34:48Among the three, I gave up on my relationship with the members.
34:54I like comedy.
34:56All seven of us are actors.
34:59I realized that there are people in this world who don't want to make others laugh.
35:06I wasn't me.
35:08I wondered why I was slacking off.
35:10I wasn't slacking off.
35:12I was just living a normal life.
35:14Actors are normal, aren't they?
35:16That's right.
35:18I can't believe it.
35:20I'm dressed like this.
35:23But I'm talking about buying a new jacket in front of them.
35:29Recently, a bra boom has started among girls.
35:32Don't start it in front of me.
35:34Actors are full of hate.
35:37The second difference is...
35:39Sakuma-san.
35:41You found Da-Woo.
35:44That's the second difference.
35:46I'm Sakuma.
35:48There are more and more differences.
35:50I'm getting closer to Sakuma-san.
35:52I'm getting closer to Sakuma-san.
35:54That's the reason.
35:56This is different.
35:58He got tired of us quickly.
36:01He got lost.
36:03No, no.
36:05He was like a single screen.
36:07He was like a single screen.
36:09He said he liked comedy.
36:11He said he liked comedy.
36:13He didn't want to debut as a movie maker.
36:18So he made a work of art.
36:20But he got tired of it.
36:22So you made it.
36:24He was pulled by the crowd.
36:28But Sakuma-san was not there.
36:30He was alone.
36:32He was doing an event.
36:35Can I say something?
36:37Sakuma-san.
36:39You are not a senior.
36:41That's rude.
36:43I think it was normal.
36:45I don't want you to misunderstand.
36:47I think Sakuma-san is sensitive.
36:49I think Sakuma-san is sensitive.
36:51I think Sakuma-san is sensitive.
36:53I see.
36:54I don't want to say that I raised him.
36:56I don't want to say that I raised him.
36:58When I was about to say that,
37:00he pulled me.
37:02That's...
37:04That's really rude.
37:06That's really rude.
37:08If he was an entertainer,
37:10he could have been with me.
37:12Because it's a comedy.
37:14But he is like Mitani-san or Kudo-san.
37:17But he is like Mitani-san or Kudo-san.
37:20Then, he should have met a better producer than me.
37:24Then, he should have met a better producer than me.
37:26He doesn't know where he wants to go.
37:28He doesn't know where he wants to go.
37:30Then, he started to work with entertainers.
37:33Then, he started to work with entertainers.
37:35If he wanted to do comedy, he could have done it with me.
37:38He is not a good comedian.
37:40He is not a good comedian.
37:42He is a bad comedian.
37:44He wants to go to a drama.
37:46I see.
37:48I see.
37:50I see.
37:52You are like Nakodo.
37:54You are like Nakodo.
37:56You are like Nakodo.
37:58You are like Nakodo.
38:00You are like Nakodo.
38:02You are like Nakodo.
38:04You are like Nakodo.
38:06You are like Nakodo.
38:08You are like Nakodo.
38:10You are like Nakodo.
38:12You are like Nakodo.
38:14You are like Nakodo.
38:16You are like Nakodo.
38:18You are like Nakodo.
38:20You are like Nakodo.
38:22You are like Nakodo.
38:24You are like Nakodo.
38:26She is cute, isn't she?
38:28She is cute.
38:30She is beautiful.
38:32She is good.
38:36It's getting excited.
38:38Mr. Ohsaka, please tell us about this meeting.
38:40Like the great philosopher Nietzsche,
38:42I want you to summarize this meeting in one word.
38:46It's Mr. Sakuma, right?
38:48I want to summarize each of them.
38:50Mr. Nagano has decided to be a kendori crammer.
38:52I want to summarize each of them.
38:54What I thought today was that Nagano-san wants the world to be a cool place
39:00as a result of pushing his way as Nagano-san.
39:04Of course, Hasumi-kun has a role to play in each show,
39:09but I want him to be more like Hasumi.
39:12I'm a TV producer, but I don't want to be a TV producer,
39:17I want to be more like Sakuma.
39:20It's like Yazawa.
39:22Nagano is Nagano.
39:24Hasumi is Hasumi.
39:26Sakuma is Sakuma.
39:28That's what I thought.
39:31Then let's do that.
39:33Mitani-san, too.
39:35Mitani-san doesn't want to be unique.
39:38He wants to show more of himself.
39:41He wants to show more of his ugly side.
39:45Mitani is Mitani.
39:47Mitani is Mitani.
39:48Nagano is Nagano.
39:49Hasumi is Hasumi.
39:50Sakuma, let's go with this.
39:53It's quite philosophical.
39:55It's philosophical.
39:56It's like a group of people who really like themselves.
40:01It's embarrassing.
40:03It's embarrassing.
40:04It's embarrassing.
40:05It really doesn't matter.
40:07Can I have a minute?
40:08Sakuma-san, can I ask you for advice?
40:11I'm sorry.
40:12You want to be a Kendrick Lamar.
40:14On the other hand, people want you to be more balanced and soft.
40:22Sakuma-san, you want to be a Kendrick Lamar, right?
40:25I want Nagano to be a Kendrick Lamar.
40:28I think people will say kindness on their own.
40:33Like, this person is kind.
40:35So Nagano doesn't have to go there.
40:39He doesn't have to go there.
40:41He doesn't have to go there.
40:43He doesn't have to go there.
40:46But people will say it.
40:48Sorry, it's my personal opinion.
40:51I'm a bit embarrassed to hear that.
41:00It's warm in here.
41:02It's time to find a balance with the main work.
41:06Wow, it doesn't hurt at all.
41:10It's so big.
41:12It's a corn snake.
41:14I can understand why so many people like it.
41:17It's so cool.
41:21I'm scared.
41:24I'm scared.
41:25What? Now?
41:27Oh, it's over.
41:29It's over.
41:30Oh, it's over because it ate me.
41:32What?
41:33Wait a minute.
41:36I'll make it come out.
41:37Oh, no.
41:39I'm scared.
41:40I'm scared.
41:41I'm scared.
41:42I'm scared.
41:43I'm scared.
41:44I'm scared.
41:45Wait a minute.
41:46Wait a minute.
41:47Wait a minute.
41:52There is such a way of thinking.
41:54Please watch the video.