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00:00But I think the most important thing really for the Europeans is that in these peace negotiations
00:07there is a guarantee of longer-term sustainable sovereignty for Ukraine, whatever that territorial
00:14boundaries of Ukraine turn out to be at the end of the negotiations, that they have freedom of
00:20choice of their future policy, and that they have guaranteed security arrangements that will sustain
00:29that sovereignty. And at the moment I have to say that I think that would be very difficult
00:35to do without some form of American involvement.