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00:00Kureto!
00:02Wow!
00:04Matsutake!
00:06Wow!
00:08Look!
00:10Wow!
00:12It's huge!
00:14The diamond of the mountains!
00:16The high-class Matsutake is
00:18sparkling!
00:20At an altitude of 1,300 meters,
00:22deep in the mountains of Nagano Prefecture,
00:24the Matsutake hunter
00:26has arrived!
00:28It's pretty big.
00:30Isn't it too big?
00:34Wow, it's over there.
00:36This is the best.
00:38In just an hour,
00:40he caught an incredible amount!
00:42Who is it?
00:46Eh? Eh? Eh? Eh?
00:48It's a hunter, isn't it?
00:52In order to meet the great hunter,
00:54he went to
00:56Matsukawa City, Nagano Prefecture,
00:58a large mountainous area in Japan.
01:02He contacted the hunter in advance
01:04and waited for him
01:06at a height of 700 meters in the mountains.
01:10It took him 30 minutes to run along the mountain road.
01:16Even so,
01:18who is that?
01:20It's a monkey.
01:22There are a lot of monkeys.
01:24There he is.
01:26There he is.
01:28There are a lot of monkeys.
01:30There are a lot of monkeys over there, too.
01:32There are so many monkeys.
01:34The back is bright.
01:38He's climbing up.
01:40He's climbing up.
01:42He's doing well.
01:44He's doing well.
01:46He's carrying a gun.
01:48He's carrying a child.
01:50He's carrying a child.
01:52He's carrying a child.
01:56He continues to climb
01:58the mountain road
02:00where monkeys also appear.
02:04It's getting higher and higher.
02:06It's getting higher and higher.
02:10He has arrived
02:12at a mountainous area
02:14in the southern part of Nagano Prefecture,
02:16a height of about 700 meters.
02:19Excuse me.
02:27Excuse me.
02:29Hello.
02:31I'm from TV Tokyo.
02:33My name is Miyazaki.
02:35My name is Takeshi Matsushita.
02:37Takeshi Matsushita.
02:39It's a good name.
02:41In short, Matsutake.
02:43Matsutake.
02:45Isn't it too fateful?
02:47I was born for this.
02:49This is Takeshi Matsushita.
02:51This is Takeshi Matsushita.
02:53He's known as Mr. Matsutake.
02:55He's 55 years old.
02:57Every year,
02:59he catches hundreds of Matsutakes.
03:01He's been doing this for 45 years.
03:03He's a great hunter.
03:05He's a great hunter.
03:07He's a great hunter.
03:09Good morning.
03:11The next morning,
03:13he goes back to the meeting place.
03:15Nice to meet you.
03:17Who is he?
03:19He's my master.
03:21He's my master.
03:23He's my master.
03:25How old are you?
03:27How old are you?
03:29I'm 84 years old.
03:31I'm 84 years old.
03:33He's so young.
03:35Matsutake hunter,
03:37Matsutake hunter,
03:39Mr. Terasawa is 84 years old.
03:41Mr. Terasawa is 84 years old.
03:43He's going to a dangerous place
03:45with bears.
03:47It's dangerous to go there alone.
03:49He's going with 5 people.
03:51It's dangerous to go there alone.
03:53It's a cute T-shirt.
03:55The bear is running away.
03:57Hello.
03:59Nice to meet you.
04:01The bear is not running away.
04:03The bear is not running away.
04:05Cute.
04:07The bear is not running away.
04:09We're going to a dangerous place.
04:11We're going to a dangerous place.
04:17Here we are!
04:19He's going to a dangerous place
04:21where he can hopefully catch a lot of mosquitoes!
04:23Here we are!
04:25Where are we going next?
04:27Where are we going next?
04:29The altitude here is
04:31about 6 astonished.
04:33The altitude here is about 6 astonished.
04:35The altitude here is about 6 astonished.
04:37Over 1000?
04:39Are you going to get it by car?
04:41I'm going to go as far as I can by car.
04:43It's different from climbing, so there's no road.
04:45It might be even more difficult.
04:49Do you want to split up here?
04:51I'll turn this way.
04:53They split up with Shisho here.
04:56To the steep mountains.
05:00It's like a line and a cross.
05:02If you go through the tunnel, it's like...
05:04There's a different world.
05:07It's getting steeper.
05:12I can't see anything.
05:14What is this?
05:15It's scary.
05:18They continue to climb the steep mountain road.
05:25We'll stop here.
05:28We'll go up from there.
05:30That's the road.
05:32Thank you very much.
05:36They go up the steep mountain road.
05:43It's cute.
05:45Do you put the bamboo in it?
05:47If it doesn't fit, I'll put it in Ryu's bag.
05:53I think it's going to be full.
05:57It's amazing.
05:59Can you get that much?
06:03There's a bomb on your head.
06:05It's an insect repellent.
06:07An insect repellent?
06:09Is that an insect repellent?
06:11It's the strongest insect.
06:13If you see this, everyone will run away.
06:16I see.
06:19They set up their equipment and set off.
06:26It's a bell.
06:28Is this the place?
06:35We'll turn from here.
06:37This is...
06:39It's tough.
06:41The camera is moving well.
06:45It's steep.
06:47Are you okay?
06:49Be careful.
06:51There's no way out.
06:53Don't focus on turning the camera.
06:56Be careful.
06:59It's scary.
07:01You'll fall.
07:03It's going to be tough.
07:05It's going to be tough.
07:09How long will it take to get the bamboo?
07:12It's going to be tough.
07:14It's only 30 minutes from here.
07:1830 minutes?
07:20You can do it.
07:22It's going to be tough.
07:24It's only 30 minutes to get the bamboo.
07:34Walk along the rocks.
07:38It's a narrow path.
07:44It's scary.
07:45I don't think there's a rope.
07:48It's dangerous.
07:51If you fall, you'll die.
07:54While walking up the steep slope,
07:57they carefully climb up the dangerous mountain path.
08:05Finally, they arrive at the military base of the Matsutake family.
08:10It's growing from here.
08:14It's going to come out from here.
08:16Let's take a look.
08:18It's growing.
08:22It's growing from the middle.
08:27It's growing.
08:29There's one here.
08:30Already?
08:31There's one?
08:33They found the first one in just a minute.
08:37It's fast.
08:43There it is.
08:45It's big.
08:47It's big.
08:53It's big.
08:55It looks delicious.
08:58It's big.
09:00It's growing.
09:02I smelled it.
09:04You smelled it?
09:06I'm curious.
09:08Show me.
09:10You're excited.
09:12It's going to come out.
09:14There's one here.
09:16It's scary.
09:19They continue to find the second one.
09:23This is...
09:24It's the ice we saw earlier.
09:26It's the ice.
09:28Which one tastes better?
09:29This one.
09:30This one tastes better.
09:31The one with the roots tastes better.
09:33You have to put it back.
09:35What happens if you put it back?
09:37There's another one there.
09:42What's over there?
09:44Matsutake.
09:45This is bad.
09:47This is bad.
09:48He's excited.
09:50It's amazing.
09:51Where is it?
09:55It's growing so fast.
09:57It's a treasure trove.
09:59It's amazing.
10:02It feels good.
10:04It's big.
10:07What is this?
10:16It's big, isn't it?
10:18It's amazing.
10:22It's amazing.
10:26This is the biggest one we've seen so far.
10:29While they're looking for the fifth Matsutake...
10:32Do you see that tree over there?
10:35That's Matsutake, right?
10:37Let's go get it.
10:39They found the sixth one.
10:43According to the program,
10:45in Toyosu City, Tokyo,
10:47there are more than 70,000 yen worth of high-class Matsutake trees.
10:51There are a lot of them.
10:53It's fun.
10:55Shake it a little.
10:57It'll come through.
10:59It's amazing.
11:06This is a good Matsutake.
11:08It's the best to eat.
11:11It just came out today.
11:13Before it rained.
11:15Does it come out in a day?
11:17Yes, it does.
11:21It's amazing.
11:23It's a good time.
11:25It takes about 10 minutes to walk.
11:27It's almost full.
11:29It's amazing.
11:31Matsutake comes in groups.
11:33If there's one, there are two.
11:35If there are three,
11:37you have to go in groups.
11:39I see.
11:41I see.
11:43When you go in groups, you can see other castles.
11:45Do you see that tree over there?
11:47That's Matsutake, right?
11:49Yes.
11:51Matsutake can be grown like this.
11:54Matsutake, which forms the root of the Akamatsu tree,
11:59is nourished and grows.
12:02This is called a castle.
12:06Five years have passed since then.
12:10Matsutake.
12:14Once the white root is formed,
12:16it is easy for bacteria to form.
12:19There are a lot of Matsutake around it.
12:25That's why hunters pay special attention to the area where they harvest.
12:31There it is.
12:35They try not to let Matsutake, which grows in groups, escape.
12:41It's only been three minutes.
12:45You can see the Hattao on the ground.
12:48You can get it so easily.
12:50It crawls on the ground and hunts.
12:57This year, we didn't get a lot of Hattao.
13:00When you look up,
13:05you can see it crawling at an angle.
13:08It's crawling.
13:11There's another one over there.
13:13We keep finding them.
13:15This one.
13:18This is Matsutake.
13:20It doesn't show its face yet.
13:22Which one is it?
13:24Where is it?
13:27I don't know.
13:29I have no idea.
13:32Where is it?
13:34There it is.
13:36There it is.
13:38I thought it was gone.
13:42Even if it's hidden by grass or leaves,
13:45they won't let it go.
13:49It's so big.
13:51There are 27 and 28 of them.
13:57This is the 33rd one.
13:59This is the 40th and 41st one.
14:04In less than an hour,
14:06they caught 50 of them.
14:10They caught so many.
14:12Matsutake is a gamble.
14:15You should think you're lucky if you get one.
14:19You should eat it as your main dish.
14:22I have other main dishes.
14:26Matsushita's main dish is
14:28the president of a manufacturing company.
14:34It's so strong.
14:37Matsutake is not a gamble.
14:43Then why is the president of a manufacturing company
14:47a Matsutake hunter?
14:51Now we know the surprising reason.
14:59This is a good one.
15:01But all the deer ate it.
15:03All the deer ate it.
15:05Only the head is gone.
15:07This is Matsutake.
15:09But all the deer ate the head.
15:11Matsutake is edible.
15:14It's a luxury.
15:16Matsutake doesn't have a head.
15:19It's a cat.
15:21They are so greedy.
15:24Matsutake is a favorite
15:26of Matsutake hunters.
15:28They ate the delicious part
15:30and only the base is left.
15:37What are you doing?
15:39I'm making a fire.
15:41A fire?
15:42I'll make a fire
15:44and avoid the animals.
15:48When there's smoke,
15:50it smells like gunpowder.
15:52It's good for deer and animals.
16:08It's a dinosaur.
16:16It's a lion.
16:18A lion.
16:23Matsutake's master came from a different route.
16:27He met Terasawa, who is 84 years old.
16:32There's a lot of meat.
16:37How was it?
16:38There was.
16:40A lot.
16:42A lot of meat?
16:43There's a lot of meat.
16:45There's a lot here, too.
16:47He got a lot of salt, too.
16:50He's a master.
16:52He's a master.
16:55He walked on a steep mountain road
16:58at the age of 84.
17:02I found it.
17:03Did you find it?
17:04Come here.
17:08It's true.
17:10He got high-class matsutake one after another.
17:16It's big.
17:20There's a lot here, too.
17:22I'm tired.
17:25You caught a lot.
17:26This year is the best.
17:31He climbed the mountain in about 3 hours.
17:38The spear is strong.
17:43How is it?
17:45He measured the weight of the matsutake Matsushita caught.
17:51It's 6,500 grams.
17:536,500 grams.
17:55He caught 6 kilograms.
17:58Matsutake hunter, Sugowo Sasugawa.
18:01He caught 6.5 kilograms of matsutake, which is more than 70,000 yen per kilogram in the Toyosu market in Tokyo.
18:10In addition, if you add the weight of the master and the other three,
18:15it's 20 kilograms.
18:19All of these are more than 1.4 million yen.
18:29But do you sell all of these matsutake?
18:37Even if we catch them,
18:39if there are no mushrooms in the store,
18:41we leave the ones we caught.
18:43Even if we do that,
18:46I want them to stay here.
18:49In this area of Nagano prefecture,
18:51the population is declining due to the pace of the climate change.
18:57In the meantime,
18:58the place where Matsushita and the others gathered
19:01is a place for lodging such as glamping and cottages.
19:07It is a facility built as part of the revitalization of the city,
19:10where the great nature can be enjoyed.
19:13However...
19:15In the past, two companies had gone bankrupt.
19:19But we raised our hands and said we would do it.
19:22It was amazing.
19:25So the locals and I got serious and cooperated.
19:32In the past, two other companies were operating,
19:37but they withdrew due to the red tide.
19:41In the meantime, Matsushita-san raised his hand
19:46and said he wanted to liven up the city.
19:51That's where it all began.
19:54He wanted to appeal to the public
19:56that matsutake, which can be caught a lot,
19:58was a specialty product of the city.
20:01It's cheap.
20:05He sold the matsutake he caught,
20:08as well as as a tribute to his hometown farmers.
20:15However, in order to catch a lot of matsutake,
20:19he had to walk a very difficult path.
20:24Speaking of difficulty,
20:26Miyori Sakimoto also had a very difficult time
20:29with her debut film.
20:33We went to a deserted island called Tomogashima in Wakayama Prefecture.
20:38In the past, the Japanese army used to live there.
20:42That's right.
20:43That's right.
20:45There were cannons and so on.
20:48There weren't enough toilets,
20:51so we had to use a truck to get to the toilet.
20:54That's a tough place.
20:56Yes, we had to walk a lot.
20:58There was only one inn.
21:00It was like a homestay.
21:02We couldn't get hot water.
21:04It took a long time.
21:06I think I even took a shower in the water.
21:11That's a sudden story.
21:13It's not over yet.
21:14It's not over yet.
21:15It's not over yet.
21:16It's not over yet.
21:17It's not over yet.
21:18It's not over yet.
21:19It's not over yet.
21:21This is in the mountains of Nagano Prefecture.
21:25Matsutake hunter Matsushita
21:27wants to liven up the city of Kasoka.
21:32He sells a lot of Matsutake
21:35as a specialty product
21:38and as a tribute to his hometown farmers.
21:43Matsutake is in season now,
21:47so you can eat it fresh.
21:51I can get Matsutake right away.
21:55Wow!
21:57There's a lot of people coming to see Matsutake.
22:01There's a cafeteria in this facility.
22:05Matsushita offers Matsutake he caught.
22:11You can get a full course of Matsutake
22:14that's been used for four years
22:17for free of charge.
22:25There are five types of Matsutake.
22:30Matsutake pickled in miso.
22:34Matsutake sushi lightly grilled and placed on rice.
22:39There's also grilled chestnuts,
22:42black leather grated soy sauce,
22:46sakura shimeji, kuritake,
22:49and shungiku ohitashi.
22:51There's also a lot of Yamanomegumi
22:54that he caught in his hometown.
22:59This is grilled Matsutake
23:02with a whole piece of Matsutake.
23:09This has to be good.
23:12It looks good.
23:16I wonder if it's ready.
23:18It looks good.
23:20He doesn't use any other ingredients
23:23like shrimp or ginkgo.
23:26He simply uses Matsutake.
23:31Matsutake chawanmushi?
23:34That's so extravagant.
23:39Matsutake and vegetable tempura.
23:45And of course, the classic Dobin-mushi.
23:50The aroma and umami of Matsutake
23:53spreads in your mouth.
23:57Which one?
23:59This one.
24:01It's so concentrated.
24:03And the main dish is Matsutake shio-nabe.
24:11He wants you to fully enjoy the aroma and flavor of Matsutake.
24:16He's obsessed with the flavor of the dashi.
24:24The Matsutake smells so good.
24:29It's the best.
24:30This is the best.
24:32The Matsutake is the best.
24:34Matsutake shio-nabe is going to be so good.
24:38I'm so hungry.
24:40This is the finishing touch.
24:42Matsutake rice.
24:47If you eat Matsutake in Tokyo,
24:49it costs more than 40,000 yen.
24:51It's a full course meal with all 8 ingredients.
24:53The price was surprising.
24:57It's too cheap.
24:59There's so much Matsutake.
25:04I'll have another one.
25:16700 meters above sea level,
25:18in the mountains of southern Nagano prefecture.
25:21This is the best.
25:23This looks the best.
25:25Matsutake costs more than 70,000 yen per kilogram.
25:28The Matsutake hunter Takeshi Matsushita
25:34wants to liven up Kasoka.
25:38Grilled Matsutake.
25:41Matsutake shio-nabe with dashi.
25:45Matsutake rice.
25:49He offers the best food in the world.
25:56This is so good.
25:58It's so rich.
26:01Four pieces of Matsutake per person.
26:05A full course meal with all 8 ingredients.
26:08If you eat Matsutake in Tokyo,
26:10it costs more than 40,000 yen.
26:14But here, it's all 15,000 yen.
26:20It's too cheap.
26:22There's so much Matsutake.
26:24It's less than half price.
26:26Where are you from?
26:28Mie prefecture.
26:30Mie prefecture?
26:32How long did it take to get here from Mie?
26:35About two and a half hours.
26:37Two and a half hours?
26:38It's worth it.
26:41How did you know this place?
26:43I read about it in the newspaper.
26:47It took two and a half hours to get here from Mie prefecture.
26:53That's why...
26:56Matsutake that Mr. Matsushita caught.
27:02He's been running this place for three years.
27:06He's a manager at Kurojie Tenkan.
27:09He's playing a big role in starting this place.
27:13Matsutake, as the name suggests.
27:16I'm going to do this for the rest of my life.
27:19I'm going to make this my life.
27:22Look.
27:26The car is falling.
27:28Is this okay?
27:31Seriously?
27:34The shocking sight is next.
27:38I'm going to fill up on gas.
27:40Gas?
27:42Is this a gas station?
27:46Wow.
27:51Wow.
27:53The way they fill up is amazing.
27:56Wow.
27:58They're using it.
28:00Is this a gas station?
28:03No, it's a fake gas station.
28:06It's a fake gas station.
28:08What's going on?
28:11In a rural area in Africa,
28:14there are not many gas stations.
28:19There is also a personal shop that sells gasoline on the street.
28:23Is that gasoline?
28:25That's amazing.
28:27It took two and a half hours to get here from the city.
28:31We've arrived in a rural area.
28:36This is amazing.
28:39It's an amazing place.
28:43The horizon is clear.
28:46That's amazing.
28:49Excuse me.
28:53Hello.
28:55Are you Japanese?
28:57Yes.
29:00Hello.
29:02I'm from TV Tokyo.
29:04Nice to meet you.
29:06Nice to meet you, too.
29:08I'm Kinoshita from TV Tokyo.
29:10I'm Eke Yoko.
29:12Eke Yoko.
29:14Nice to meet you.
29:16I'm from Japan.
29:18Thank you for coming all the way from Japan.
29:22This is Eke Yoko,
29:24a Japanese who came to a country in West Africa for a reason.
29:28Eke Yoko is 46 years old.
29:33Two people have come.
29:36We have two children.
29:38Hello.
29:40What's your name?
29:42I'm Seza.
29:44Oh, in Japanese.
29:46His mother is teaching him.
29:49His eldest son, Seza, is 6 years old.
29:52He is a first-year elementary school student.
29:54He has curly hair.
29:56Hello.
29:58What's your name?
30:02I'm Jinan.
30:04What's your name?
30:06I'm Miku.
30:08I'm Timeo.
30:11Jinan's Timeo is 4 years old.
30:15Actually,
30:20Yoko's family is here.
30:24What's this?
30:27It's Benin, a country in West Africa,
30:31about 13,500 km from Japan.
30:37It's about one-third of Japan.
30:40There are 14 million people living there,
30:43almost the same as Tokyo.
30:47The average monthly income is about 50,000 yen.
30:51He used to live in France,
30:54and he was born in France.
30:57He is the father of Hachimura,
30:59who is an NBA player in the United States.
31:04I didn't know that.
31:07It's been five years.
31:10Why did Japanese people come back to Japan?
31:15It's been a long time.
31:17I'm looking forward to it.
31:20Yoko lives in Benin,
31:22a country in West Africa,
31:24about 13,500 km from Japan.
31:32There are many things that can't be imagined in Japan.
31:39I was born in Ippuda.
31:41I'm the second generation.
31:44It's a great culture.
31:47There is no concept of Ippuda.
31:51Yoko is the second generation.
31:55In the countryside of Benin,
31:57there is still Ippuda,
31:59where one man has two wives at the same time.
32:05Yoko is the second generation of Ippuda.
32:11Do you live here?
32:14Yes, I live here.
32:18Is this your shop?
32:20Yes.
32:22I also have a fish shop.
32:24Do you have a fish shop?
32:26Yes, here.
32:28This?
32:33This is a fish shop.
32:35It's very simple.
32:37What kind of fish do you sell?
32:39The fish we sell in Benin is milk.
32:46It's milk fish,
32:49so it's easy to sell.
32:52It looks like this.
32:56This is a frozen fish.
32:58It's a fish called Sylvie.
33:01I see.
33:07I want one.
33:09Who is it?
33:11It's a neighbor's child.
33:14For some reason, she takes a neighbor's child to her house.
33:18Hello.
33:20How much milk do you want?
33:22This much.
33:25What is it?
33:27It's a big fish.
33:30It's a big house.
33:38Is this ice?
33:40Yes, it's ice.
33:43We sell ice in the refrigerator.
33:49People around here don't have a refrigerator at home,
33:53so they need a refrigerator.
33:57It's a refrigerator.
33:59I see.
34:03This is vinyl ice.
34:07While raising two children in Benin, West Africa,
34:12Yoko runs a fish shop and an ice shop,
34:17but she doesn't see her husband.
34:20She says he doesn't go to her first wife,
34:26but when she asked her why, she was shocked.
34:31Where is your husband?
34:33He is...
34:35He is...
34:42I'd buy it if I could.
34:45She is a kind woman.
34:51How is it?
34:52It's good.
34:57I feel sorry for him.
35:01After this,
35:03the reason why she was shocked
35:06by her second wife is revealed.
35:11I'm sorry.
35:13What?