Mumbai: In an exclusive interview with IANS on her birthday (14th February), Madhur Bhushan, the sister of the legendary actress Madhubala, opened up about her late sister's legacy and the long-awaited film based on her life. Reflecting on her memories of Dilip Kumar, who had a close relationship with Madhubala, she expressed her admiration for the iconic actor. Madhur also discussed the lack of progress on the film, revealing the challenges and hurdles that have led to delays, while remaining hopeful that the project will eventually come to fruition.
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00:00So ma'am, Madhubala ma'am's 92nd birthday is on the 14th, so can you share some of your memories with Madhubala ma'am?
00:11Memories are also an account, it will never end, because I have, I'm much younger than her, she's number 5 and I'm number 10.
00:22So naturally, but whatever I remember of her is that first of all, she was a very beautiful girl, very talented, very hardworking and a very obedient daughter to my father Mr. Attaullah Khan.
00:38And she looked after us like a mother can look after, she looked after the entire family.
00:46Yes, ma'am. Ma'am, you just said that you were much younger than her, so how much was the age difference between you and Madhubala ma'am?
00:55About 14 years.
00:56Oh, that's a big difference. But then you must be having some faint memories. Did it ever happen that, you know, coming back from shoot, she used to bring chocolates for you?
01:07No, she used to go for shooting at 9 in the morning, she used to come back at 6 or 6.30 in the evening, and then go to bed early, that's what my father said.
01:16Have your dinner and go to bed early. We were all told to go to bed early.
01:21Then we used to go to school, she used to leave before that, so we used to meet in the evening, or if it was a Sunday, then we would meet her.
01:32Her memories are all very beautiful memories. The best is that she's very beautiful, extremely talented.
01:48I'm not challenging anybody. There's no end to beauty, but I don't see so many years have passed. It's almost 57-80 years she's expired, but nobody has forgotten her.
02:01Oh, absolutely, ma'am. This is like 100% true, that a beautiful and talented person like her, who is a perfect combination, at least in the film industry, we have not seen after her.
02:14There are a lot of challenges. She does a lot of hard work. She's beautiful too. But I don't know why God made her different.
02:25Ma'am, do you have memories of her shooting on the set?
02:30No, no, no. We were not allowed to go because we were school-going children. I went only once on Mughal-e-Azam set.
02:37Because it was so beautiful, our father was giving us permission to see it once.
02:43The Mughal-e-Azam palace was so beautiful. We loved it so much. We only went to see it for 15 minutes and then we left.
02:52My other sister used to go to some other place. Because we were in school, we didn't even get time from school.
03:00Okay, so do you have any memories of visiting Mughal-e-Azam set?
03:04We must be having, but they're not here.
03:08But if I ask you, what did you see there? Who did you meet? And small anecdotes about yourself?
03:15See, I only saw Dilip sir, Prithviraj ji, and I saw Madhu Apa's dance. I fell in love with her.
03:24And the glass on the walls, and how they were shooting. I think we didn't sit for more than an hour.
03:33And since we are talking about Madhubala ma'am and Dilip Kumar sir.
03:39And Madhubala ma'am's birthday falls on 14th January, that is Valentine's Day.
03:44So somewhere, all those memories come alive again.
03:50Madhubala ji's unbreakable love for Dilip sir. And you have also spoken about it many times.
03:57So we would like to know something more about it.
04:00See, it is true that it was a very beautiful love.
04:08But whatever the master has written, it is his will.
04:13And no one can go beyond his will in this world.
04:17We wanted, Yusuf bhai was also very good. Madhu Apa is an American Idol.
04:23But okay, whatever happened, it was good in their fate.
04:27And whatever happened with Madhu Apa, it was destined.
04:31Ma'am, but you were very young when you met him.
04:36So I am sure he would have never shared or discussed with you.
04:39Because the age difference between you and Madhubala ma'am was very big.
04:43But did he ever discuss anything with his close friend or any of your siblings who were younger than him?
04:55He must have done, I don't know.
04:57But we were not in it.
05:00Because we used to go to school.
05:02The rest of the children never went to school.
05:05Madhu Apa also did not go.
05:06One was me and my sister, Shahida, we used to go.
05:09So what must have been discussed?
05:12In the old days, you know, children used to talk like children.
05:17And when elders used to talk something personal, they used to say, you go and play.
05:21This was very normal at that time.
05:24So I don't think we ever participated in any of the conversations regarding her life.
05:29Absolutely, ma'am.
05:31But ma'am, you know, you also belong to the same industry.
05:35But did you ever meet Dilip sir after years?
05:38Did you ever have a conversation?
05:40I met him.
05:41It was not that small.
05:42It was not two or three years.
05:44He used to come and talk to you a lot.
05:47My name is Zahida, by the way.
05:51But always and Zahida said yes.
05:54I said, brother, why do you say that?
05:57We are very small in front of you.
05:59He said, no, our elders have taught us to be polite.
06:02Talk to the children politely.
06:04So he used to talk to you.
06:07It was very sweet, very nice.
06:09Yes, ma'am.
06:10Ma'am, we have heard a lot about Madhubala ma'am's film.
06:15But there is no news yet.
06:17Will you tell us something about it?
06:19See what to tell?
06:20When the makers are taking so much time.
06:24What are their hurdles?
06:26Or what difficulties are coming in front of them?
06:28We don't know all this at all.
06:30To be very honest.
06:31But almost I think it's been a year and a half.
06:34We are endlessly waiting and waiting and waiting.
06:37There seems to be no response from them.
06:39Now we don't know what happened.
06:41Because they were very excited to make it.
06:44And they are nice people.
06:45There is no such thing.
06:46But at times it hurts us.
06:48Because time is flying.
06:50And it's being wasted literally.
06:54So I think if they do something.
06:58Then we will be very happy.
07:00But now it's up to them.
07:02Ma'am, you said it's been a year and a half.
07:05Has there been any communication from them?
07:07No, no one.
07:09What do you know what has happened?
07:11What hasn't happened?
07:13We can't interfere in anyone's business.
07:17Some people have resigned.
07:20There have been a lot of hurdles.
07:22And in big businesses.
07:25And especially those who are divided.
07:28In LA and India.
07:30This usually happens with them.
07:33So I leave it to God.
07:35And I leave it to them.
07:36To please hurry up with the film.
07:38So that we can fulfil our dreams.
07:41Just a thought from my side.
07:43Because one very very important thing you said.
07:46Time is flying.
07:47So it's true.
07:49Sometimes it's very important to tell the whole story.
07:54And in your presence.
07:55Those who have family members.
07:57So in their presence.
07:58If this film is made.
08:00Then it will be very good.
08:02But have you ever thought of contacting someone else?
08:04Because there are a lot of people in the industry.
08:06Who are interested in making a film on Madhubala's story.
08:10Yes, there are a lot of people.
08:14But we think we have made a commitment.
08:17So we should fulfil it.
08:19Now what response do they give?
08:21What are their intentions?
08:23How much more time do they take?
08:25We are waiting for them to give an answer.
08:28And tell us what is going to happen.
08:31Ma'am, recently you must have read a post on Instagram.
08:36And there was some news like this.
08:38Babul Supriyo, the singer.
08:40He wrote a post on Instagram about your statement.
08:45Probably it was about Madhubala ma'am and Kishore Kumar sir.
08:50How was the relationship between them in the last phase?
08:53You have read that.
08:54What is your reaction to that?
08:56To be honest, I have not read any interview of Babul Supriyo.
09:01But yes.
09:02A person who has left the world.
09:05And my sister also left.
09:07Yusuf sir also left.
09:09Now those who have left.
09:11Bringing them in the foreground.
09:14And discussing them.
09:17I don't think it's a very good thing.
09:19Whatever was destined to happen, happened.
09:21Yes, yes.
09:22The interview he wrote on Instagram.
09:26He wrote about one of your interviews.
09:29In that interview, someone asked you about Madhubala ma'am and Kishore Kumar sir.
09:35He wrote about that.
09:37So probably in their last phase.
09:40About their house.
09:41That she used to live in a separate house.
09:43He wrote about all these things.
09:46Not in a separate house.
09:48She was with us.
09:49Yes, yes.
09:50Because Kishore was very busy.
09:52He used to go to shows.
09:53The songs and playbacks were at the top.
09:55So maybe he didn't get time to see a sick girl.
09:59Nothing else.
10:00There is no such thing.
10:01He used to come and see her, meet her.
10:03Whenever she was available.
10:05You know people who go to shows.
10:07How busy their schedule is.
10:09I don't blame him for that.
10:11How frequently could he visit Madhubala ma'am?
10:15How many times?
10:16He used to come every 8-10 days.
10:18As soon as he landed, he used to come to the shows.
10:22Okay.
10:23Ma'am, when Madhubala ma'am was struggling with health.
10:26Who else used to come to visit her in the industry?
10:32No, no.
10:33She herself didn't want anyone to come to meet her.
10:35Because she was so weak.
10:37And she didn't even get proper food.
10:40Because she had a hole in the heart.
10:42That's why she told my father.
10:45That I don't want to discuss my past.
10:49And I don't want to ask the wrong questions.
10:52I am very hurt in life.
10:53I only pray to God that he cures me.
10:56And she wanted me to pray to God.
10:58I wish God would heal me.
11:00And cure my heart.
11:03This is all she used to say.
11:05She never wanted to meet anybody.
11:07Not that we stopped it.
11:08It was not her wish.
11:10So, we will listen to a sick person.
11:13Yes, yes.
11:14And in the last few months, last few years.
11:19Did Dilip Kumar sir communicate with anyone in the family?
11:24No, Dilip sir didn't come.
11:26He got married when we didn't meet.
11:30Yes, he came to the graveyard later.
11:32We were kids.
11:34We didn't go.
11:35My father went.
11:36And someone else must have gone.
11:38But we were kids.
11:40So, the graveyard people didn't let us come.
11:42You know, Muslims have a lot of restrictions.
11:45Young girls, young women.
11:48If they don't come, it's better.
11:50Because it's Madhubala ma'am's birthday on the 14th.
11:52And you will be very young.
11:54Do you have any memories of celebration?
11:56Did you ever celebrate at home?
11:58No, my father didn't like it.
12:00To do functions, parties.
12:02To invite people.
12:04Worship at home.
12:06Everyone used to cut the cake at home.
12:08He didn't like all this.
12:12To go to the function and meet people.
12:15Because he used to say, you will become very common.
12:18And don't do this.
12:20You have come up with a lot of difficulties.
12:22So, most people don't remember her.
12:25Because they hardly got to meet her.
12:27Yes, ma'am.
12:29And you just said, compare.
12:33Which was like, even I tried this.
12:35Still, if I ask you.
12:37Because you are Madhubala's sister.
12:40And also you have seen Bollywood very closely.
12:43But if you can say one or two.
12:46Close to her, if there is such an actress.
12:50Who would you like to take her name?
12:52I am sorry, I cannot say about this.
12:55Because she never met anybody.
12:57Because you have to reach the studio at 9 in the morning.
13:00And you have to come back at 6 in the evening.
13:02And my father, in premieres, functions.
13:05In interviews.
13:07And with journalists.
13:09She was not allowed.
13:11So, who will she meet?
13:13Where will she go?
13:14From home to shooting, from shooting to home.
13:17So, obviously.
13:19You must be doing something in her memory every year.
13:22She is your sister.
13:23Yes, we go to the graveyard.
13:25We are not allowed to go inside.
13:27Only flowers from the door.
13:29And in Muslims, you have heard.
13:31We make Fatiha for the deceased.
13:33For forgiveness.
13:35So, we do that every year.
13:37Her death anniversary, 30th.
13:39Sorry, 23rd.
13:41In the same month.
13:42After 9 days, she expired.
13:4423rd is her birthday.
13:45And 23rd is her death anniversary.
13:47So, we offer flowers to both of them.
13:49The elders of our house go to their graves.
13:53Or some imam goes.
13:56But we ladies are not allowed to go to the graveyard.
14:00Yes, yes.
14:02You said that Madhubala ma'am did not get time.
14:05And now you were saying.
14:06What?
14:07She did not get time for parties and other things.
14:10But how?
14:11No, no.
14:12There is no question of time.
14:13My father was a very disciplined man.
14:17He did not want our daughters to be ordinary.
14:20And go to parties.
14:23Where there are drinks.
14:25Not that he looked down upon anybody.
14:27It was just.
14:29He is a Pathan.
14:31So, his way of thinking is different.
14:33He did not look at others with contempt.
14:37Or think bad about them.
14:39There was nothing like that.
14:40He was a very.
14:41He was not a very educated man.
14:43But lived a very ordinary life.
14:45He never pretended that.
14:47I am Attaullah Khan.
14:48I am Madhubala's father.
14:49He is a very nice person.
14:51Very, very nice person.
14:53What she was.
14:54And how she is remembered in date.
14:56Is only due to God.
14:58And my father.
14:59Yes, yes.
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