Naldy trabajaba en el rubro educacional.
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00:00We need to hear Naldi's testimony. You were talking to her, and of course, she also has a lot to contribute in this conversation, right?
00:12Yes, well, Naldi had the courage that I didn't have, because Naldi finally reported.
00:17When I had the opportunity to report, I couldn't, I didn't have the guts.
00:22Because I knew they were going to put everyone against me. In the end, I said, no, bye, I prefer to get out of there.
00:27But Naldi, now it's your story, not mine. Tell us a little bit, tell La Prilla, the people who are watching us now, where did you work? How does your work start?
00:39Well, first of all, good afternoon, and thank you for the opportunity. In fact, very few people dare to do this en masse and report.
00:47From the beginning, I reported with a lot of fear, but it was at the end of the year, which corresponds to the month of December.
00:54Of course, the issue of the witnesses was key.
00:57First, it is not necessary for you to say the name of the company, but in what field did you work?
01:02In a school environment. I was already engaged in my profession. Yes, I am a social worker.
01:09And indeed, of course, what this job entails is the fulfillment of certain norms within this place.
01:17Interviewed, empowered, working as a team with teachers and students.
01:22Well, this person started constant investigation. I was forbidden to talk to teachers, I was forbidden to have access to certain meetings.
01:30We had meetings with multidisciplinary external teams.
01:33Indeed, he constantly controlled me, he called me.
01:40Wait a minute, it seems to me that your cell phone is ringing.
01:44Let's continue.
01:46We are live, please, we are live, do not interrupt her.
01:48Indeed, I ...
01:51Yes.
01:54And unfortunately, of course, this exhaustion began.
02:00He constantly called me on the phone, even on weekends, my phone was at her disposal.
02:05To all this, I fell with a heavy, great stress.
02:08Well, unfortunately, I was with a psychiatric psychologist, where my diagnosis had to be revealed due to the obligation that she subjected me at that time.
02:16So not only did she know my diagnosis, but the whole environment.
02:21So it was complicated, at some point I had a panic attack caused by her inside the workplace too.
02:27Unfortunately, many were witnesses, but not everyone dares to say it.
02:32Many people were also fired, those people who did lend me a testimony at that time.
02:37And in the end, this is borrowed for vulnerability.
02:40It's terrible because no one understands how one feels.
02:42I used to smoke 20 cigarettes a day.
02:45From 6 in the morning to 8 in the morning, I only smoked 4 cigarettes.
02:49On the way, because I said, what is going to happen to me today?
02:52What am I going to go through today?
02:54At that time I had maternity leave, I had special permits.
02:57She did not let me go out before school to go get my baby.
03:01So, unfortunately, I had to rely on external resources to make the withdrawal of my baby.
03:05And also a mishap, I was pregnant at that time.
03:08And unfortunately, in the face of all this situation, I was constantly taking painkillers.
03:14So, indeed, it was bad for my baby and everything.
03:17And at that time I had a very strong sentence that they tell me.
03:22Can I say it?
03:24Without fear.
03:26They tell me, what does it feel like to be drunk and high?
03:32An anxiolytic for the state of stress that I was in, not only being high.
03:35But also being high.
03:37It was a help for me to be there.
03:39They completely canceled my work functions.
03:42They exposed me more than necessary.
03:44My office was in a corner of this place.
03:46It was not visible to anyone, at all.
03:49So, it's very sad to live it.
03:51And today, well, I've been in treatment for two years.
03:53I love my psychologist.
03:55She helped me get ahead and overcome this.
03:57And for that reason, I am happy to share my experience and that people also dare.
04:01Let's say, there is the obvious fear, because we run the risk of being fired.
04:05Who sees our mental health?
04:07Who sees our family?
04:09If my husband had a very bad time because he was a witness.
04:11My baby too.
04:13And my family environment.
04:15I often cried in the morning and my husband had to get me out of bed so I could go to work.
04:19Because he was not able to go to work.
04:21So, try to make this not happen again.
04:25And that people who are witnesses, do not normalize it.
04:29Because unfortunately they say, yes, it's the boss.
04:31Yes, it's the one who has authority over you.
04:33But it's not like that.
04:35But I also have my private life.
04:37And that happened to her many times.
04:40Many times.
04:42My medical licenses were never respected.
04:44She always made me the harassment.
04:46That I needed this, I needed the other.
04:48When I came back, what do I really have?
04:50So that they had to know the general part of the school.
04:52So ...
04:54I want to take advantage of our specialists too.
04:56It's legal if they want to call you during half of your medical license.
05:01That they ask you for work things during the license.
05:03Or they force you to report the diagnosis.
05:06Yes, the truth is that not at all.
05:08The employer's obligation is obviously to present to his employer within the term of the medical license.
05:13Which is the notification by which the employer knows and knows that the employer is going to be absent.
05:18For such and such reason.
05:20And he will know what the cause is.
05:22What catches my attention, Clarissa, in this.
05:24What is the reason why Naldi was mistreated by her employer?
05:28What did she say to him?
05:30Or what does she know about that situation?
05:31Because that's what catches my attention.
05:33She, let's say ...
05:35Yes, it was personal.
05:37She had a moral issue.
05:39We all know that education has to be light.
05:42So she ...
05:44She exposed her rules.
05:46So when certain things did not seem to her ...
05:48Well, unfortunately things happened.
05:50They made us shut up.
05:52If we had a meeting with X people, we were forbidden to ask.
05:56Because the whole team was her accomplice.
05:58I want to highlight something.
05:59She was against everything that is sexual diversity in trans children.
06:03And all that.
06:05So when she went to Orlando Ximena to present her project.
06:07And everything that means school inclusion and everything with this topic.
06:11She hides this document.
06:13She does not make it visible.
06:15So I also made a complaint for discrimination.
06:17Because she did not ...
06:19That's where the game started.
06:21Exactly.
06:23So I had a meeting with such an organization.
06:25She called me.
06:27But you got together.
06:29And I, of course, came to my house and said,
06:31I talked to this person.
06:33But I did not talk to her.
06:35But what happens?
06:37Am I wrong?
06:39Because in the end one begins to question.
06:41It's like this.
06:43This happened.
06:45So in the end there was so much interrogation towards myself.
06:47That at one point a friend tells me,
06:49No, stop.
06:51This is not normal.
06:53And she always ...
06:55This is a very clear phrase.
06:57I love you very much.
06:59She trusted me.
07:01She got me up and put me to bed.
07:03There came a time when I slept an hour a day.
07:05The anguish.
07:07The panic.
07:09And no one fixes that.
07:11Unfortunately, I had to use personal networks.
07:14I invested in a good psychologist, psychiatrist.
07:17Well, the inspection of the job.
07:19I was even afraid to report.
07:21Because she told me that I had so much power in this place.
07:23That I could fire anyone.
07:25So it was constant.
07:27I did not dare to speak anything.
07:29My witnesses probably got off.
07:31For fear of what the future firing was.
07:34And having so much power can also make the person who is
07:37testify whatever it is about you.
07:39They can make up anything.
07:41I did.
07:43Yes, indeed.
07:45I can have all the evidence.
07:47But they also have the right to defend themselves when we present ourselves to an audience,
07:49to a labor trial.
07:51So it has been super complex to bring this to an end.
07:53Naldi, I imagine the process is very complex.
07:55It can even be distressing, painful.
07:57It generates more insecurities for you.
07:59What happened to your case?
08:01What was left of all this?
08:03And what is your current situation?
08:05Currently, I'm still working.
08:09But I was fired from my job.
08:12Was it you who fired her?
08:14That was one of the first conditions I had.
08:16Me.
08:18I was fired from my job.
08:20I was fired.
08:22Not her.
08:24I don't know if it was luck, for her, I don't know.
08:26But not her.
08:27Knowing that everything we were going through at that time,
08:29that what she said was true,
08:31nothing.
08:33Currently, I also have a psychological treatment
08:36because this is not getting over it.
08:38It's complex.
08:40Because, in fact, when I remember it,
08:42it still gives me a lot of pain, anguish.
08:44I don't want anyone else to go through it again.
08:46And I don't deserve to go through it either.
08:48Naldi, at some point, of course, you said,
08:50I need psychological support.
08:52What triggered that?
08:54How did you feel personally?
08:55We also incorporated Barbara
08:57to help us understand your case.
08:59Because, until now,
09:01you are still under psychological treatment.
09:04Indeed, yes.
09:06What happened to you?
09:08I'm not high.
09:10Well, all this started.
09:12It was a questioning.
09:14First of all, I started to question myself.
09:16Is what I'm doing correct?
09:18Is she right?
09:20Maybe she really wants to take care of these people.
09:22Then, my insomnia was constant.
09:25I couldn't sleep.
09:27I had nothing.
09:29I started to lose a lot of weight constantly.
09:31Didn't you get hungry?
09:33I didn't have the strength to get up.
09:35It was crying.
09:37No.
09:39I cried in the bathroom of this workplace where I worked.
09:41I cried for hours.
09:43I could be there for an hour.
09:45I was there for an hour because I didn't want to go there.
09:47And then I started to lose my appetite.
09:49My anxiety about smoking was constant.
09:51That's what struck me the most because my chest started to hurt a lot.
09:53Of course, if I'm smoking 20 cigarettes a day,
09:55we all have a limit.
09:57And once my husband told me,
09:59I want my wife alive.
10:01My daughter wants to have her mother.
10:03That struck me and it was so strong that I said,
10:05no, this has to be reported.
10:07This is not normal.