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00:00Let's talk about the theme of the show, Eien no Tema!
00:06I heard it was a big hit last time.
00:09This is the second time.
00:11I saw it.
00:13When Yuzuru-san said it was better to be ugly,
00:16I was so mad.
00:18I was so mad.
00:21There are various entertainers,
00:23but the answer to this is the real answer of the entertainment world.
00:28That's all.
00:30Somehow, comedy is a Kansai dialect.
00:33It's old.
00:34Let me do it! Let me do it!
00:36Let me do it!
00:37That's how it was born.
00:41A huge debate on the theme of Eien no Tema.
00:44A talk special about comedy.
00:50I wrote my name on the translation notice,
00:52and Seki said,
00:54I'm so mad.
00:57What would you do if I wrote my name on the translation notice?
01:00I would...
01:01I would...
01:02I would...
01:03I would...
01:04I would...
01:05I would...
01:06I would...
01:07I would...
01:08I would...
01:09This time, we're going to talk about the theme of Eien no Tema.
01:16Let's get started.
01:17The first theme is...
01:19As an entertainer, what is marriage?
01:21A plus.
01:22B minus.
01:23Marriage is...
01:24This is hard.
01:25Let's start with the first impression.
01:27For now, the bride and groom are...
01:30Kin-chan and Saiki Moriyama.
01:33They're newlyweds.
01:35That's right.
01:37Now, let's go with intuition.
01:39One, two...
01:45As you can see, the six people chose intuition.
01:48Let's start the talk from here.
01:51Harada and I think it's a minus.
01:54Yes.
01:55We're rivals.
01:57We're VG talents.
01:59We're not VG talents.
02:00We're rivals.
02:01We're not friends.
02:02I'm a member of VG.
02:05What do you think about this?
02:06The bride and groom are...
02:08Kin-chan and Saiki.
02:09I think it's definitely not a minus for me.
02:14And I can't live alone because I have a family.
02:19I see.
02:20I have a daughter, but I want to do my best.
02:24I don't think it's a minus for me.
02:27I see.
02:28It's not a plus, but it's not a minus.
02:29There's only good things.
02:30I've been in the entertainment industry for a long time.
02:33There's a mental sport.
02:34Yes.
02:35What comforts me the most at that time is marriage and family.
02:38Family.
02:39Yes.
02:40I can rely on that.
02:41Yes.
02:42I think it's great to talk about family.
02:44That's right.
02:45We can talk a lot.
02:47Yes.
02:48I told my mom.
02:50Your mom?
02:51What?
02:52Your mom?
02:53I call my wife my mom.
02:54You call your wife your mom?
02:55I thought it would be nice to see your wife.
02:57You have a house.
02:59You have a mom.
03:00I thought I could do something like this.
03:03Of course.
03:04I see.
03:05I called my wife my mom.
03:07I changed a lot.
03:08I think it's definitely a plus for me.
03:11Yes.
03:12It's a good story.
03:13Yes.
03:14You might lose one of your children.
03:17The child of an entertainer.
03:19For example, if you are bullied a lot,
03:25and your child is in puberty, what will you do?
03:29It's hard.
03:31Nadal is a character like that.
03:34I was bullied because my real name was changed in the theater.
03:40After I had a child, my real name was changed.
03:44Nadal was bullied on TV.
03:47When I was in puberty, I thought I would change my real name.
03:52He is a good father.
03:54He is a very good father.
03:56He is a nice father.
03:57You have to take care of your family.
03:59He forgave me.
04:01You have to be grateful to your wife.
04:03I announced it on the radio once.
04:06I said I looked like professional wrestler Tetsuya Naito.
04:09It was a top news article.
04:12I said I would marry Tetsuya Naito.
04:16Your wife was very happy.
04:18That's right.
04:20I don't know why I didn't do it.
04:23When a variety show comes out,
04:25there are times when I say too much and I'm not a person.
04:28I run to a strange person.
04:31At that time, I don't know if I can get married.
04:34I don't know if I can live up to it.
04:36I think it's easier for people who have something to change.
04:40Even if the world hates you, you can protect yourself.
04:43When you have someone to protect, you can be strong.
04:47That's right.
04:50It depends on the person.
04:52It's a plus for me.
04:55Kawai and Moriyama are handsome.
04:58I'm handsome.
05:00It's a popular business.
05:02Why is Moriyama a plus?
05:04I've been married for a few months.
05:06I was surprised.
05:08I started laughing because I wasn't popular.
05:11When I was ugly and handsome.
05:13I started laughing because I wasn't popular.
05:18I changed my name to Seki.
05:21I wrote my name as Seki.
05:23When I wrote my name as Seki,
05:25I lost my sexual desire.
05:28I was surprised at this phenomenon.
05:31What if I broke my butthole?
05:36I'll be the one to take care of it.
05:39I'll take care of it.
05:42I'll be the one to take care of it.
05:44I'll be the one to take care of it.
05:46I didn't say that.
05:48I'll come in from the next door.
05:51I didn't say that.
05:55What is that?
05:58Your sexual desire is gone now.
06:01Is that true, Gin-chan?
06:02Yes.
06:04It depends on the timing.
06:06I want to be popular.
06:09However, I think I'm a minus in the present.
06:14I want to be popular.
06:17I'm praised for that.
06:19You're also praised for being a perfectionist.
06:21I had a hard time.
06:23You're not a perfectionist.
06:26I don't do TV.
06:28I don't do TV.
06:30I can't stay quiet.
06:32What if the other person is a colleague?
06:34What if they are an actress or a talent?
06:36Is it difficult to work together?
06:38I don't want to leave it to them.
06:40Do you want to live together?
06:42Yes, we share our work.
06:44I see.
06:46I want to share the pain and sadness.
06:48I want to share the pain and sadness.
06:50I want to share the pain and sadness.
06:52I want to share the pain and sadness.
06:54How about you, Harada?
06:56For me,
06:58I didn't like the crisis.
07:00I have heard that you may get married
07:02when you have no saved money.
07:04I was really worried.
07:06I also want to find someone
07:08to marry you
07:10but I was worried
07:12about you as an actor.
07:14I care
07:16how you can relax with your work.
07:18I understand.
07:20They tell you to give me money
07:21before meeting me again.
07:23But if you think about it, it's like a kid's birthday or something like that.
07:27It's close to Christmas.
07:29I think that's still a little bit strong.
07:32Of course, but as a human being, I don't think it's a plus.
07:38As an entertainer, I think it's a little bit of a minus.
07:42If you say minus, there's a lot of nonsense.
07:44I think there's a little bit of a catch.
07:47In that sense, I'm also B.
07:49I don't think I'm a decent person.
07:54That's true.
07:55That's true.
07:57I've become like this myself.
07:59I can't be fast.
08:02You have a desire.
08:03I'm 45 years old.
08:06I see.
08:08Are you really 45 years old?
08:10This year?
08:11There was a special vtr of the Shinkansen.
08:14At that time, it took more than four hours to get from Osaka to Tokyo.
08:18He said,
08:19I'm sorry.
08:23I know it as a knowledge.
08:25That's about it.
08:2770, 80.
08:28I'm saying that.
08:30I'll make it more of an episode.
08:33You have a desire to get married, right?
08:35I don't know if I have a desire to get married.
08:37I don't know if I'm going to call my partner.
08:38Shut up.
08:39What's the number now?
08:42I don't use it on TV.
08:44Snap.
08:45I'll let you hear the snap.
08:46I don't know.
08:47Isn't it better to get married in Harada?
08:49In terms of money.
08:52The house is like a garbage house in Osaka.
08:55Isn't that a loss for one person?
08:57That's right.
08:58Well, I lost.
09:01You lost.
09:03You lost.
09:04You lost.
09:05That's amazing.
09:06I thought about it, but I lost by saying only the above.
09:12I lost.
09:13I lost.
09:14I want Lily and Einstein to get married.
09:17I want to do that.
09:19Let me do it, too.
09:21What are you doing alone?
09:24As a result of the discussion, which one will the six choose?
09:29This is difficult.
09:31Let's go to the final judgment.
09:33Do you want to get married as an entertainer?
09:35Plus or minus.
09:36One, two.
09:37Plus or minus.
09:38One, two.
09:39I'm the most satisfied.
09:42I was impressed by Kin-chan's persuasive ability.
09:46I was talking.
09:48You were talking.
09:49I was unconsciously talking.
09:50I was told that I was actually like that.
09:52That's right.
09:53I was told that I was actually like that.
09:54I've been getting better since I got married.
09:57I don't want to deny my wife and my marriage life.
10:01Plus or minus.
10:04I lost.
10:08The next topic is...
10:11Is it better for an entertainer to start from Kansai or from Kanto?
10:21I'd like to know what everyone thinks.
10:23What do you think?
10:24This is difficult.
10:26It's really difficult.
10:28Which one is it?
10:30It's difficult.
10:31Let's go.
10:32One, two.
10:35It's difficult.
10:39There are a lot of great entertainers in Kansai.
10:42Yes, there are.
10:43Chidori.
10:44Kamaitachi.
10:45Einstein.
10:46You can compare them.
10:47It's like a Kansai dialect.
10:49You can definitely compare them to Kusuo.
10:51But there are no great entertainers in Kanto.
10:54So, I think it's cool.
10:56I envy people in New York.
10:59When we go to Osaka, we don't feel that way.
11:03But when we go to Osaka, people say,
11:05It's Osaka.
11:07Don't go to Osaka.
11:09They say that a lot.
11:11It's really embarrassing.
11:14That's true.
11:15It's embarrassing.
11:19I understand that.
11:20Anyway, people in Kansai laugh a lot.
11:23Suddenly.
11:24It's old-fashioned.
11:27People in Kansai say,
11:28It's old-fashioned.
11:30It's old-fashioned.
11:31It's amazing.
11:32Kansai is conservative.
11:34It's all about comedy.
11:36It's all about manzai.
11:38They do everything but comedy.
11:40Entertainers sing songs.
11:42Entertainers do apparel.
11:44They do nothing but manzai.
11:46Who is that?
11:47Who is that?
11:48Who is that?
11:50Kansai is amazing.
11:51I have this image.
11:52But,
11:53Kansai has a deep bond.
11:55That's right.
11:56Osaka Yoshimoto.
11:57That's right.
11:58Of course, Kansai has a deep bond.
12:00That's right.
12:01That's why people say,
12:03Let me do it.
12:04Let me do it.
12:05Let me do it.
12:06That's why people say that.
12:07Let me do it.
12:08Let me do it.
12:09That's right.
12:10That's right.
12:11If I were asked which is better,
12:13I would choose Kansai.
12:15But,
12:16If I were asked which is better,
12:18I would choose Kansai.
12:20There is a possibility that Kansai will become a program.
12:23That's right.
12:24I feel that Kansai will become a program.
12:28The story is...
12:30The story is...
12:32I think Kansai is a program with a deep bond.
12:34Osaka Yoshimoto has been invited to a concert in Tokyo.
12:40When I did a concert in Tokyo,
12:42I felt that Kansai is doing something that is very similar to TV.
12:47I felt that Kansai is doing something that is very similar to TV.
12:53I think so too.
12:55That's why I think Tokyo's Omonoikou is amazing.
12:59It's really amazing.
13:01There are a lot of show races.
13:03Well, there are a lot of young people's show races.
13:05I see.
13:06The winning of the show race is never going to disappear.
13:11If the show is gone, it's not going to be a title.
13:15I see.
13:16In that sense, I think it's a benefit.
13:18Personally, I think Osaka people have a great relationship with the upper and lower classes.
13:23Because they are raised in a teacher-student culture.
13:25When I went to Tokyo, I didn't think so.
13:27Ota from Jumpoke told Jiro, who is the descendant of my senior,
13:31Jiro, what are you doing today?
13:33I think it's good that Tokyo can be so frank.
13:38I think the Kansai area taught me a lot about the relationship between the upper and lower classes.
13:41That's right.
13:42He taught me a lot about it.
13:44Did he really teach you?
13:46I didn't know that.
13:48I'm sorry. I made a mistake.
13:49I was surprised.
13:50In Kansai, I have an image.
13:52Yuzuru and Moriyama are the same.
13:54I think Binta is the most interesting.
13:56I have a sense of culture.
13:58It's like a laugh of the era.
14:01I think so, too.
14:02I'm going to call him Binta from now on.
14:04I'm sorry.
14:05After this, you will be called behind my back.
14:09That may be the case.
14:10After all, I will laugh when I get a kiss.
14:12That's right.
14:13You will laugh when you get a kiss in Kansai, right?
14:15That's right.
14:16I'm more attracted to him than I thought.
14:18In the movie, he suddenly called me to the theater.
14:22He said,
14:23Ina-chan, Tokyo will be attracted to you soon.
14:25He said,
14:26If you say poop, I'll be attracted to you.
14:27He said,
14:28Ina-chan, be careful.
14:31Did he say that?
14:32Poop?
14:33Did he say that?
14:34He said,
14:35Poop?
14:36I said,
14:37Ina-chan, what?
14:38He praised your tie.
14:40Wespi and Akira 100% have ties.
14:45Ina-chan has a tie, too.
14:47That's very good.
14:48If you tie a tie to a funny thing,
14:50you won't be attracted to it.
14:53Is that true?
14:54Is that true?
14:55Ina-chan thinks you are a poop.
15:00As a result of the discussion,
15:02which one did the six choose?
15:05If you want to start being an entertainer,
15:07how old are you?
15:09If you want to start being an entertainer,
15:10how old are you?
15:11Let's see.
15:16I'm the only one.
15:17Riri is the only one.
15:20Did you draw this?
15:22Yes.
15:23Why did you draw this?
15:24I'm here because of Osaka.
15:28Looking back,
15:29I think I had a good experience.
15:31To be honest,
15:32I don't know if it's good or not.
15:35Biscuit Brothers started from Kanto.
15:38I thought it was impossible.
15:40They are not smart.
15:43So, we had a show race.
15:45We went to Osaka.
15:47We went to Kinko-koto.
15:48When we were called by people like us,
15:51I thought Kansai would be better.
15:53If it was people like us,
15:54it would have been better.
15:55It would have been better.
15:57Maybe you should have teamed up with someone else.
15:59Maybe you should have teamed up with someone else.
16:00Maybe you should have teamed up with someone else.
16:01You guys...
16:02I don't think I can answer both questions.
16:04How about this?
16:06You are young and you are a member of NSC.
16:08You are young and you are a member of NSC.
16:09You are in your first year.
16:10You don't really talk about TV.
16:14Yes.
16:15If you do,
16:16you can join Kansai.
16:18Oh, I see.
16:19I heard that you have more ideas.
16:22That's a different story.
16:25What?
16:26It's a different story.
16:27Thank you for the meal.
16:29Thank you for the meal.
16:31I'm not jealous.
16:32Why don't you guys team up?
16:33I don't know.
16:34I don't know.
16:36Next question.
16:38What is the last part of your ideal?
16:40The last part?
16:41A. I want to be healthy until I die.
16:43B. I want to be sick.
16:45This is hard.
16:47What should I do?
16:49Ideal?
16:50Ideal.
16:51Ideal.
16:52Yes.
16:53One, two, three.
16:57Kin-chan, you have A.
16:59Midorizu, B.
17:00So, we have A and B.
17:02Based on our intuition,
17:04we can make a clear decision.
17:08If B is not ideal,
17:10B is possible.
17:11Yes.
17:12So, if it's ideal,
17:14A is possible.
17:16There are people who have been in
17:18Manzai or Shinkieki until recently.
17:20Yes.
17:21I think that's really cool.
17:22Yes.
17:23It's like being on a board
17:25and waiting for the end.
17:26But,
17:27the ending is the most important.
17:29That's right.
17:30No matter how cool an actor is,
17:32if the ending is not good,
17:34it's not good.
17:35Yes.
17:36If the ending is bad,
17:37it's not good.
17:38If so,
17:39I think it's best to quit
17:41when you are satisfied.
17:42Of course,
17:43many people say that,
17:44but I think it's best to quit
17:46when you are satisfied.
17:47That's right.
17:48I was like that when I was a kid.
17:50Yes.
17:51I thought,
17:52why should I quit?
17:53Yes.
17:54Of course,
17:55an actor is cool until he dies.
17:57Yes.
17:58Of course.
17:59Now,
18:00I don't know how old I am
18:02when I want to quit.
18:04Yes.
18:05But,
18:06many people push me to quit.
18:08Yes.
18:09I want to be told,
18:10I want to quit
18:11in a year.
18:12Yes.
18:13I want to be told that.
18:15Later.
18:16Yes.
18:17People's memories
18:18will be beautified
18:19by people who are B.
18:20That's right.
18:21It will be inherited
18:22as a legend
18:23and as electricity.
18:24The reason why I chose A
18:26is that
18:27if I didn't do it,
18:28I would be an old man.
18:30I see.
18:31I wouldn't use my brain.
18:32Yes.
18:33I wouldn't be conscious.
18:34I see.
18:35Then,
18:36I would be just
18:37an old man.
18:38An old man.
18:39An old man.
18:40An old man.
18:41If you retire,
18:42you will disappear.
18:43You will disappear.
18:44You will disappear.
18:45But,
18:46I don't want to show
18:47my old face to my juniors.
18:48I understand.
18:49For example,
18:50when I was in my 60s,
18:51I was in my 20s.
18:52I was in my prime.
18:53I said,
18:54Mr. Moriyama,
18:55I don't know anything.
18:56I should not be a comedian
18:57if I did that.
18:58I should not be a comedian
18:59if I did that.
19:00There are many masters
19:01who are made fun of
19:02as if they are laughed at.
19:03Yes.
19:04I think that is
19:05very cool.
19:06That's amazing.
19:07The masters of justice
19:08are amazing.
19:09They are amazing.
19:10The cool ones are very cool.
19:11They are cool.
19:12I see.
19:13I think I can
19:14be one of them.
19:15I think I can be one of them.
19:16Yes.
19:17Like that great master,
19:18I will be on the stage
19:19until the end.
19:20I will be on the stage
19:21until the end.
19:22Of course,
19:23I will be cool.
19:24But,
19:25I am not sure
19:26about the results.
19:27I am just in a good place.
19:28I want to be told
19:29about this
19:30after retiring.
19:31I see.
19:32I thought
19:33about it
19:34after retiring.
19:35I thought about it
19:36after retiring.
19:37Of course,
19:38I have a question.
19:39Of course,
19:40I have a question.
19:41It's normal.
19:42I think both are
19:43ideal.
19:44I agree.
19:45I think both are
19:46ideal.
19:47It's a luxurious problem.
19:48It's a luxurious problem.
19:49It's a luxury.
19:50It's a luxury.
19:51It's a luxury.
19:52I think it's fine
19:53to decide if you can continue.
19:54How would you like to be paid for 15 years, from 60 to 75, or 60 for 15 years?
20:07I'd like to be paid for 15 years.
20:09I'd like to retire as soon as possible.
20:11That's true.
20:13But if you think about the ideal,
20:15I'd like to go to a foreign country.
20:17That's not what I meant.
20:19You said it.
20:21It sounds like I'm the one who's crazy.
20:23I'd like to be paid for 15 years.
20:25That's not what I meant.
20:27You said it.
20:29You said it.
20:31That's not what I meant.
20:33What's the difference?
20:35I'd like to go to a foreign country.
20:37You can't go back to your hometown.
20:39You can't go back to your hometown.
20:41I'd like to go back to my hometown.
20:43I'd like to go back to my hometown.
20:45I'm 80 years old.
20:47I'm 80 years old.
20:49I'm 80 years old.
20:51You're a dragon.
20:53You're a dragon.
20:55You're a dragon.
20:57I'm not a dragon.
20:59You're a dragon.
21:01That's not funny.
21:05Who will be chosen by the six people?
21:09Who will be chosen by the six people?
21:11Who will be chosen by the six people?
21:13It doesn't matter.
21:15It doesn't matter.
21:17It's all right.
21:19That's true, that's true.
21:21They all have their own coolness.
21:23In 10 years' time, their opinions will be completely different.
21:25That's possible.
21:27It's also possible that we, who are 90 years old, will be doing manzai.
21:29It's also possible that we won't be popular.
21:31Just retire.