‘90 Day Fiancé’_ Alex & Loren Talk Jasmine & Florian’s FIGHT _ Behind The Drama
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00:00If anybody was going to call me a dog, essentially, like,
00:03she's good.
00:04She's like, yeah, I am a chihuahua, and I yip,
00:06and that's it.
00:06Like, I love her.
00:08It was very funny.
00:09She handled it well.
00:10Welcome back to Behind the Drama,
00:12where we're breaking down everything
00:13that happened on last night's wild episode
00:16of 90 Day, The Last Resort.
00:18We're going to be getting into everything,
00:19from Florian getting mad over the lack of a party invite.
00:22Come on, sweetheart.
00:23Too late.
00:24Too late.
00:26I was under the impression that we
00:27were all invited as a group.
00:29I never hear nobody invite me.
00:31Natalie and Josh's problems.
00:33And I'm afraid, because I realize that Josh and I
00:36want different things.
00:38And now, I don't even know if he's at the resort anymore.
00:41And Jasmine and Florian's fight.
00:43Chihuahua, you want a treat?
00:44You want a treat?
00:45I just hope that Stacy lifts your ass.
00:51Today, we're joined by Alex and Lauren.
00:53How are you both feeling?
00:54Ready to get into the drama?
00:56Oh, yes.
00:57Always.
00:58OK.
00:58So first up, let's talk about the group therapy session
01:01that Rob and Sophie took part in.
01:03Sophie's environment growing up was not healthy for Sophie.
01:06Her mom was an addict.
01:08And her mom has not prioritized raising Sophie
01:12in a way that makes her a compassionate and considerate
01:16partner.
01:16She was just doing her.
01:18And Sophie and her grew up in a house together.
01:20And it's like, and I know that by the time I'm in the picture,
01:24all I am is the first thing that's really pulling Sophie
01:27away from this entire life that Sophie's had with her mom.
01:32He called out her mom.
01:33And she got really emotional.
01:34What were you both thinking while watching that?
01:36I didn't think it was the right place or the right time.
01:39Honestly, I think that's something
01:40that should have been talked about behind closed doors,
01:43honestly, without other people there.
01:46I mean, I like the idea of the scent.
01:48And I was thinking, what can I do?
01:50Like, I would be so bad at this.
01:54I had no imagination.
01:56But it was good therapy.
01:58And a lot of fans are thinking that maybe Rob and Sophie
02:02might not work things out while at the resort.
02:03What do you think while watching the season back?
02:05Yeah, no, I'm definitely in agreement.
02:08I felt them at the tell-all.
02:09Like, I tried to talk to them at the tell-all.
02:11We obviously know how that went.
02:13Here we are five minutes later.
02:15But I don't know.
02:16I think they're just very different.
02:17And the dynamic is off.
02:19During the exercise, Stacey revealed
02:21something pretty shocking.
02:23She recently said something to Florian.
02:25Like, what did she say?
02:27Why don't you tell her?
02:30Should be single.
02:31Yeah, told Florian.
02:33Deserve more.
02:33Yeah.
02:37Told you that you should be single?
02:39Yeah, said to Florian, you're better off single, basically.
02:49What sister does that?
02:50That's cold.
02:51Were you shocked by that?
02:52Because I was just like, why would your own sister do that?
02:56Yeah, I couldn't believe that.
02:57I don't know where it came from.
02:59Even if it was a fight, that's like not something you say.
03:02You can never take what you say back.
03:05Some of the other people at the resort
03:07were thinking that it's possible that Darcy
03:08might be into Florian.
03:10Were you thinking that watching that?
03:11Like, it was just such a strange thing.
03:13It's so wild what people think.
03:15And then it gets twisted.
03:17And then there's this article and that article.
03:19No, I don't think that at all.
03:20What do you think about while watching
03:22Stacey and Florian's dynamic this season?
03:24Like, sometimes I feel like they could work things out.
03:26And then sometimes I get worried about them,
03:28like in this episode.
03:30Note to self, if we ever have a party, we will call him.
03:33And invite him personally so he doesn't get so upset.
03:38Like, a personal invitation is like a big deal.
03:41It's a big deal in some places.
03:43But in this specific case, like she just
03:46yelled it out to everybody.
03:47So he should not get offended with that.
03:49I think he's still in a very immature phase of his life.
03:52He's not.
03:52In some countries, also in Israel,
03:54it's very important to invite in person and blah, blah, blah
03:57and make an effort.
03:58It is in person.
03:59I know.
03:59But in this case, like I said, it wasn't to nobody.
04:03It was just yelling out this moment.
04:04Speaking of the party, it was in Brandon and Julia's honeymoon
04:07suite.
04:08Brandon's been feeling like he has a lack of intimacy
04:11with Julia.
04:11Do you think maybe he's more into her than she is into him?
04:15That's kind of what some of the other people this season
04:17have said on Behind the Drama.
04:19Here's the thing.
04:20Married couples go through phases, right?
04:22Obviously, we don't go through phases.
04:28Couples do go through phases where
04:30they don't want to be intimate or they're too stressed
04:32or whatever.
04:34I don't know.
04:35They are the couple that I least understand.
04:38To me, they are so OK, so perfect for each other,
04:42but they're never in a good place.
04:43I don't know what's going on with them.
04:45Also, if we were in a honeymoon suite
04:47and we didn't honeymoon first, we
04:51wouldn't be staying in the honeymoon suite.
04:53I don't know what's going on with that couple.
04:55That's the one that I don't understand the most.
04:58I also don't know if I would be wanting to have a party.
05:00I think I would just want to be relaxing in the honeymoon suite
05:02personally.
05:03I'd be like, I don't know.
05:04I think Julia is avoiding him by all costs, all means.
05:10Yes, she's avoiding.
05:13He did try to win her over with some of his unique dance moves.
05:16Do you think they'll be able to work things out
05:18while at the resort?
05:20I mean, listen, we always hope for the best
05:22and wish the best to everybody.
05:24But there needs to be, what is it, give and take?
05:29There needs to be when you guys are on the same level.
05:32Again, couples go through it.
05:33We met them in person.
05:34They seemed fine.
05:35They seemed so good on this resort.
05:38They're like, what's in a different place?
05:39They're so related and hyper and energetic.
05:42And they seemed very balanced.
05:44You're right.
05:45Yeah, I've thought the same thing.
05:46They seem like they really love each other.
05:48So I'm rooting for them.
05:50I really hope that they work things out while at the resort
05:53because they seem like a really sweet pair.
05:55Now, jumping back to Florian, I know
05:56we touched briefly on his dramatic reaction
06:00to not being invited to the party.
06:01Should we invite everybody?
06:05Or are you going to invite everybody?
06:06Everybody invites.
06:07She's inviting you right now.
06:08No, but right now we're playing.
06:10What the f***?
06:10Not really.
06:11No, it just started.
06:12No, it started.
06:13No, no, no, no, no, no.
06:15I was under the impression that we were all invited as a group,
06:20but I just feel like he is taking it too far.
06:24You want to respect yourself, you know?
06:26Next time he's going to invite you every time half-assed,
06:28basically.
06:29You go one time, oh, these people don't care.
06:31I'm going to invite again last second.
06:35Were you shocked when he kind of was losing his temper over that?
06:38I was not expecting such an over-the-top reaction.
06:42I think he didn't want to go to the party from the get-go.
06:45I think he doesn't like Jasmine from the get-go.
06:48So this whole thing was all, you know, boiling over from before.
06:52It wasn't just because of this invite, not invite.
06:55Yeah, that could be the case.
06:56It could be the straw that broke the camel's back, as they say.
06:59Stacey was really mad at him.
07:01Do you think the difference in their maturity levels
07:03could be contributing to their relationship issues?
07:06Yeah, I don't think it's even like a cultural thing at this point.
07:09I definitely, there is a big age difference
07:11and she's older, and I think there is a maturity difference.
07:16But he's just like so extra over it.
07:18But he's not a kid.
07:19He's like over his 30s, right?
07:21He's in his 30s.
07:22So it's just-
07:23Is he?
07:23I think it's like in his late 20s.
07:25Regardless, he's just acting so immature, right?
07:29But Florian, it wasn't just Stacey that he's been having issues with.
07:32He's also been having some issues with Jasmine this season.
07:35Shut the f*** up!
07:36Shut your f***ing mouth!
07:38What the f***?
07:38Tell my f***ing respect!
07:40Shut the f*** up!
07:41You are the f***ing respectful, fair, f***ing owner!
07:44There you go!
07:45Shut up!
07:47What the f***?
07:47Someone's screaming.
07:49I just hope that Stacey left your ass!
07:53You don't deserve a woman like-
07:55Shut the f*** up!
07:55You don't deserve a woman like her!
07:58She won't!
07:58You f***ing stop it!
07:59I'm gonna f***ing leave!
08:00I'm leaving!
08:01You don't stop!
08:02F***ing idiot!
08:02Shut the f*** up!
08:03To hell, mother f***er!
08:05Chihuahua, are you on the tree?
08:06You on the tree?
08:07F***ing son of a b***h!
08:08You know how f***ing f***ing f***ing I am!
08:11I'm not f***ing Stacey, okay?
08:13Yeah, f*** down!
08:16I'm f***ing Jasmine and I'm crazy, dude!
08:18F***ing Chihuahua!
08:20Shut the f*** up!
08:23He ended up calling her a Chihuahua,
08:25which I was like, what is going on?
08:28Yeah, no, that's so well.
08:29Like, if anybody was gonna call me a dog,
08:32essentially, like, she's good.
08:34She's like, yeah, I am a Chihuahua, and I yip,
08:35and that's it.
08:36Like, I love her.
08:38It was very funny.
08:38She handled it well.
08:50Yeah, I thought her reaction,
08:51I was like laughing out loud when she was like,
08:54yeah, I am a Chihuahua.
08:54What's wrong with Chihuahuas?
08:56I like them.
08:56I was like, that is so funny.
08:58I feel bad for her, though, on this.
09:00Like, because when we saw them at the tell-all,
09:05like, all these years,
09:07like, we all thought Jasmine's crazy, right?
09:09And she is, and I love her for it.
09:11But Gino, like, really,
09:13it's like the quiet ones you have to watch out for.
09:15And he is, like, basically saying,
09:17I don't want you without saying it.
09:19Like, she loves him.
09:21All she wants is love, and affection,
09:22and attention from him.
09:24And I do.
09:25I feel bad.
09:26It's, like, embarrassing.
09:27He needs a quiet, peaceful room without cameras,
09:32without nothing.
09:33Then he might, you know, do something.
09:37Otherwise, he's not.
09:38Otherwise, so.
09:40Yeah, it's difficult, you know.
09:41Like, sometimes she can be fun and happy,
09:44and she has a great personality at times.
09:46And then, and then it's, like, Jekyll and Hyde,
09:49and then she can instantly turn into the devil.
09:52Wow.
09:56After this big fight this morning,
09:58I don't really want to go to the party right now
10:02and see Jasmine and get in another fight.
10:05So I'm good where I'm at, chilling in the hot tub.
10:08I told her I need consecutive days in a row
10:11that things are good between us.
10:13One day is not enough.
10:14And we have seen him, like, rejecting her this season,
10:18which has been hard to watch, I feel like, as a viewer,
10:20because it's just, I feel really bad for her.
10:22Like, it must be really sad, too,
10:23as, like, a wife, like, getting rejected
10:25by her husband repeatedly, and on TV on top of that.
10:29Where do they go from here?
10:30Do you think there's any repairing this relationship?
10:34Jasmine needs to go, like, above and beyond,
10:37and he just needs to go away.
10:40Brandon is getting rejected all the time, too.
10:42So men get rejected, too, and get offended.
10:45Like, for literally, for years,
10:49and, and, like, so public for so long,
10:52and, and, and everybody, again,
10:54always thought it was Jasmine is the reason.
10:58I know.
10:59So she has been talking a lot
11:00about the idea of an open relationship.
11:04I hope this could help, because I don't know if this,
11:06I don't know about that idea.
11:08It doesn't work for us, I'll tell you that much.
11:11It wouldn't work for anybody, I don't think.
11:13Like, it needs to be a very, very specific type
11:16that goes through that kind of route,
11:19and both partners need to be on board,
11:21and that's not gonna work.
11:22And I'm afraid, because I realize
11:25that Josh and I want different things.
11:27And now I don't even know if he's at the resort anymore.
11:31Do you feel like if you called Josh right now,
11:32he would pick up?
11:33Let's try.
11:49You see, we're talking about relationship.
11:51What is it?
11:52I cannot even, and it's constantly,
11:54we cannot talk, because he's always like that.
11:56And finally, we do have to talk about Natalie and Josh,
11:59or should I say the lack of Josh this episode?
12:02Apparently she couldn't find him
12:03after their big blow-up argument last episode.
12:06What do you make about how he's handling
12:07these types of situations?
12:09I think you're at the last resort for a reason.
12:12So man up and be there
12:15if you wanna work on this relationship.
12:16And if not, then just leave.
12:19Like, what's the point?
12:20I don't understand.
12:21She said three years they've been together.
12:23Yeah, on and off though, they always have, like.
12:26But you're there, you're at the last resort,
12:28not for a vacation, but to work on your relationship.
12:30And if you're not there, then just peace the out.
12:34And why do you think Josh is there?
12:35Like, what do you think he wants out of this?
12:37Because he doesn't appear to even want
12:39to put a label on their relationship after three years.
12:42Like, he doesn't even want that.
12:43Like, every time he's been approached
12:44by both the therapists and Natalie,
12:47he really just shuts down
12:48and doesn't want anything serious, it seems like.
12:51It's like some people say, he just wants the exposure.
12:54I was just gonna say,
12:55some people take advantage of 90 Day Fiancé,
12:58whatever show it is, and use it to their leverage.
13:01And it's really important.
13:03We don't know.
13:03Because we've never seen him.
13:06Natalie is, you know, not easy to deal with.
13:10So I don't know.
13:11Maybe he knows if he starts talking,
13:13he's gonna turn crazy.
13:14Even though Natalie has some over-the-top reactions,
13:16I do feel bad for her in a way,
13:18because it does seem like she really wants
13:21a serious relationship
13:22and maybe just doesn't know how to approach things
13:26in the most mature way.
13:27So I do feel for her in that sense
13:30after watching the season so far.
13:31Everybody wants love, even if they say they don't.
13:35Everybody wants love.
13:37Some people are content being by themselves
13:40and everybody wants love.
13:42And I think, I agree, I think that she maybe
13:44doesn't know how to approach it the right way
13:47with this person, anyway.
13:49Now, you obviously both have such a strong relationship.
13:52Fans love your relationship.
13:53You've been together for so many years.
13:56Honey, it doesn't work out as much.
13:58Look at these muscles, okay?
14:00That's why you're so strong.
14:03What advice would you give to the couples this season,
14:06just in general, on The Last Resort
14:08as a couple who's made it together for so long?
14:11Alex is always right.
14:15Both sides are always right.
14:17Just try to see it from their side.
14:20That's good, try and see it from their side.
14:23Unless you really think that this person is not in it
14:25for the right reasons, then just cut your losses.
14:29And accept red flags.
14:30I hate when people know that there are red flags,
14:33but avoid that.
14:35If there are red flags, just trust your gut.
14:40But there's so many cool therapies.
14:43Also take advantage of it.
14:44Just use it.
14:45Even if you don't believe in it, just go with it.
14:48You're not going to believe it, are you?
14:50No.
14:51We do this every year.
14:51Don't even bring that up to the world.
14:54Yeah, your advice is a lot better than mine.
14:57My advice to everyone is always just dump them.
14:59Just break up.
15:01I don't have the best advice.
15:03I think that's what's the problem in today's society
15:07in general, is that couples face problems.
15:11And instead of working through them,
15:14they just go their separate ways.
15:16And we've had our ups and downs,
15:18and we've worked through them.
15:19And I think that's why you go to the last resort,
15:22is to work through your problems.
15:23And if you can't, then that's it.
15:25Personally, after watching the season so far,
15:27which couples do you think have the best likelihood
15:29of working things out?
15:30And which couples do you think maybe aren't going
15:32to make it through the last resort?
15:34I don't think Jasmine and Gina are going to make it
15:36because I think she's going to be over it.
15:38Like, I think she's just fed up.
15:40Yeah, but we thought that many years.
15:42I think Brandon and Julia will have the best chances.
15:45But you never know.
15:49I do think that Stacey and Florian are going to make it.
15:55But I think she needs to accept that he's immature.
15:59And that's it.
16:00And if she wants to deal with it as her husband
16:02and not like a kid, then that's on her.
16:06But I think that they will make it.
16:08Thank you so much for tuning in to Behind the Drama.
16:10Make sure to check back every week
16:12for more with your reality TV faves.
16:14And make sure to tune into 90 Day The Last Resort
16:17Monday nights on TLC.