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00:00Welcome to Sports Room, I am your host Najeeb Rasnain and as you know that Pakistan has made a formula
00:22on how to trap foreign teams on home soil and we were successful in that once again
00:28and in yesterday's match we were successful with 127 runs and got a 1-0 lead
00:33In this two match test series against West Indies, we have made many records
00:37In the studio with me is our sports correspondent Mr. Shahid Hashmi
00:40Mr. Shahid, Assalam-o-Alaikum, welcome to the show, success always feels good
00:43and another success for the Pakistan team, the match ended early, less than what we were expecting
00:49We thought we will complete it in three days, but if you look at the overs, it was 177.2
00:55which means we didn't even complete the match in two days
00:59So how do you see Pakistan's performance and spin on the teams?
01:05You will have to make different formulas against every team
01:09because West Indies don't play spinners that well
01:12We lost 3-0 to England in the last series in 2022, they made us flat pitches
01:18and we were whitewashed in the first series
01:22In the second series in 2024, we lost the first test on a flat wicket
01:27where we made a triple century, a double century, they thrived a lot in our bats
01:32Then we suddenly thought that we will make a recycle pitch, we will bring both spinners
01:37We will have to adopt different strategies to defeat the teams
01:41West Indies don't play spinners that well, they were inexperienced
01:45That's why you defeated them in 177.2 overs and won the test match
01:49Now for the next cycle, you will have to see, in the next cycle you have South Africa first
01:54You cannot make such pitches against them
01:57You will have to make a combined pitch, a mixed pitch
02:01which will help the fast bowlers and the spinners
02:04because they also have 2-3 good spinners, Maharaj's spinner is very good
02:08You won't be able to play him, so you will have to change your strategy
02:12Then we have New Zealand in that cycle, you can defeat New Zealand with such pitches
02:16Although they will also have Michael Centner, Glenn Phillips, Hijaz Patel
02:21So you will have to see that as well
02:23So you will have to have different strategies against each team
02:26What we are saying is that West Indies don't have that kind of spin power
02:29So they also took 60 wickets on your 48, right?
02:33In the first innings, the stand of Saud Shakeel and Rizwan was decisive
02:38Some of your players will be like that
02:41Like Saud Shakeel plays the spinners very well
02:43Rizwan plays very well
02:45Babar Azam is weak, Babar Azam flopped in both the innings
02:49In one inning, the fast bowler bowled out
02:51In one inning, Warriker bowled out
02:53So we will have to see, we will bring some players who play the spinners well
02:58Kamran also plays well
03:00But Kamran got run out in the mix-up
03:03And then Kamran himself got out
03:05So we will have to see that we will have to do our batting well
03:08India always won on this spin formula
03:11Because their batting was always good against the spinners
03:14Absolutely right
03:15Captain Shan Masood believes that individual doesn't matter
03:19It is very important for the team to win
03:21And he said that this is how we want to improve in the future
03:25And qualify for the WTC finals next time
03:29What did he have to say? Let's see
03:31Everything happens in every department
03:33Nothing is perfect
03:34If we put competition in our batting and bowling, it doesn't become a team
03:38Performance is not just 100 runs in some conditions
03:4120 runs, 15 runs extra, these things matter
03:44It is not that if we win, everything is fine
03:46We all hope that we come in the top positions in the World Test Championship
03:50So you have to win all the test matches of your home
03:52Personal achievement doesn't matter
03:54Pakistan's victory matters
03:56You have to make players
03:57Sometimes you have to take pain
03:59To improve things in the future
04:01You can't win Test cricket without taking 20 wickets
04:04As a team, we make it difficult for the other team
04:06And enjoy our company
04:08But Mr. Shahid, the debate that is going on right now
04:10The one that Shan said that we have to come in the top numbers
04:13You can't come in the top numbers with this formula
04:16In this, you will win your home matches
04:19You will control with your spin
04:21When you have given one fast bowler
04:23Khurram Shehzad has given one over
04:25How will your fast bowling be good?
04:27Our fast bowling is going backwards
04:29When the batsmen don't have runs in their home
04:31With what confidence will they go out and play?
04:34You will have to increase
04:36In those countries where you can win with fast bowling
04:39Where you will get different conditions
04:41There you will have to send Shaheen
04:43You will have to send B team
04:45So that your boys can be groomed
04:47If you can win like this at home
04:49If this is your winning recipe
04:51Then you will have to make this
04:53You will have to put a balance somewhere
04:55Mr. Shahid, you are with big teams
04:57With whom you have no competition
04:59Against England, against Australia
05:01You do this, you understand
05:03Against West Indies, give a little margin
05:05So that from the third day, the spin starts
05:07But such a team that is at 8th number
05:09It will be in danger that it will come to 9th number
05:11It can never do that
05:13We people will be criticizing
05:15That you have given such a pitch to West Indies
05:17Whose batsmen have made double 100
05:19So to win
05:21You will have to sacrifice something
05:23Shaheen is absolutely right
05:25But when you go out
05:27You will have to struggle
05:29But then you will make your strength through your B team
05:31That those fast bowlers
05:33Who can do well in those countries
05:35You send them with B team
05:37Now you have to play a series in England in 2026
05:39Obviously you can't win with a spinner
05:41You will win with a fast bowler
05:43So don't welcome your A team in 2025
05:45And send one ECB
05:47Or in 2026
05:49Send one month before the series
05:51The press conference that Rizwan did
05:53In that he said
05:55Australia does this, England does this
05:57South Africa had to give us 4 pacer
05:59India also does this
06:01But look
06:03You have taken the names of 3 countries
06:052 are playing WTC final
06:07And one has been missed in the end
06:09So they are winning outside too
06:11It's not like they do it at home
06:13Most of the teams
06:15Win away test matches
06:17So you will have to make your strategy
06:19You will have to keep some players
06:21Fast bowlers who can go out
06:23And make you successful
06:25You have the first test match
06:27You had trapped them well
06:29If you had won that test match
06:31You would have drawn the 1-1 series
06:33But you also get a little bad luck
06:35The opposing team also plays well
06:37Tail enders played South Africa in both the innings
06:39And we couldn't out the tail enders
06:41So you will have to make the planning
06:43And you make that planning
06:45India, Australia, England
06:47They all make it from their B-team
06:49My second question is
06:51We always say that Australia's condition
06:53Doesn't suit us
06:55Australia's condition is very tough for us
06:57Pacers get a lot of advantage there
06:59So don't you make double centuries there?
07:01Don't you make double centuries in South Africa?
07:03Does India make a rank turner?
07:05Don't you make it there?
07:07Here neither you are able to play
07:09Neither they are able to play
07:11Their fast bowlers scored 3 wickets
07:13Your fast bowlers scored 1 over
07:15We scored 1 over because we had 3 spinners
07:17What I mean to say is
07:19We are only playing with spinners
07:21And no one else can do anything
07:23If you were playing fast bowlers
07:25You would have under bowled
07:271 fast bowler would have scored 3 over
07:29So you will have to make your strategy
07:31By looking at your opponents
07:33And this is the right strategy
07:35There should be a right balance
07:37If this fast bowler would have scored 3-4 over
07:39He would have got some practice
07:41In a difficult situation
07:43At the cost of win
07:45You can't give practice
07:47You would have lost
07:49And you would have scored 19-20 over
07:51But this 2-2.5 in match
07:53And only spinners ruling
07:55How is this?
07:57No one is able to bat
07:59This is the amazing thing
08:01If you make 2-3 pitches like this
08:03In domestic
08:05You will have good batsmen
08:07You will have spinners
08:09And fast bowlers will be gone
08:11You will have fast bowlers
08:13And if you make such pitches in domestic
08:15You will have a right balance
08:17But where you will bring international teams
08:19You will have to change your strategy
08:21According to
08:23As Shahan Masood is saying
08:25If you want 20 wickets
08:27You will make such pitches
08:29Can't it be like
08:31West Indies was a weak team
08:33If you make a supporting wicket
08:35You will get a chance
08:37For fast bowlers and batters
08:39If you lose 1-1
08:41You will have to do something different
08:43Or else you will hide the pitch like a bride
08:45Put fans inside
08:47And feed spinners
08:49Isn't India doing this?
08:51They have brought black soil
08:53They have made the world cup
08:55But they also make runs
08:57You will have to improve your batting
08:59Your first batting was
09:01You should have made 350 runs
09:03Babar Azam failed
09:05Shahan didn't score
09:07Horera is a good opener
09:09He scored in his first 2-3 seasons
09:11And showed us
09:13That he has a bright future
09:15If these players would have made 350 runs
09:17We would have said
09:19Our batting was bad
09:21But
09:23How will you judge a debutant on such a pitch?
09:25Whether Horera played well or not
09:27Horera
09:29Horera was out on a fast bowler
09:31Not on a spinner
09:33He was out on a fast bowler
09:35And played a wrong shot
09:37Horera should have made 70-80 runs
09:39On his potential
09:41He would have made good runs
09:43This is what you have to develop
09:45If you want to make a spin pitch
09:47In your first innings
09:49You will have to make 300-350 runs
09:51And feed the batsmen
09:53Agar Salman
09:55He was out on both innings
09:57He is a much better player
09:59No matter what we say
10:01The credit that Sajid Khan
10:03Gave to Horera
10:05And with 9 wickets
10:07He became the best player
10:09What a character
10:11What a body language
10:13You didn't take him to South Africa
10:15It was so disappointing
10:17Because
10:19Our condition is such
10:21That you can't take him there
10:23He has a great passion
10:25The way he threatens
10:27With his body language
10:29He has a great passion
10:31It would have been better
10:33But if you see
10:35In Cape Town and Centurion
10:37In the top 14 bowlers
10:39There was only one spinner
10:41And that was Paul Harris
10:43Horses for Courses
10:45If he would have taken him
10:47He would have had the experience
10:49Of South Africa
10:51And in the second test
10:53We should have let him play
10:55And the performance of Maharaj
10:57Was not good
10:59His stats are not good
11:01In Cape Town
11:03But he did it
11:05This is the thing
11:07When you prove data and history
11:09Wrong
11:11Data shows
11:13If a left handed batsman is playing
11:15We don't let a left arm bowler play
11:17We should prove it wrong
11:19There should be a challenge
11:21We will take a short break
11:23We will be right back
11:29Glad to have you back
11:31To Sports Room
11:33Before the break
11:35We were talking about yesterday's match
11:37Now let's talk about the Champions Trophy
11:39All the teams around the world
11:41Have announced their squad
11:43Why is the Pakistan team waiting
11:45What is the PCB thinking
11:47The selectors might be busy
11:49They might be thinking about
11:51Saim Ayub's injury
11:53Different reports are coming
11:55They might not play the Tri Series
11:57After the Tri Series
11:59The Champions Trophy
12:01And he needs to be fit
12:03Like he was in the group
12:05He played well in South Africa
12:07He played well in Zimbabwe
12:09He played well in Australia
12:11As soon as he came to Wanda
12:13He completed the T20
12:15In Wanda
12:17Although he is a better player
12:19In a shorter format
12:21They must be waiting
12:23If not this week
12:25The team will be announced soon
12:27There is the Tri Series
12:29You are allowed to change
12:31The squad for a week
12:33Like India has announced
12:35Everyone is expecting
12:37Harshit Rana will replace Bumrah
12:39In the first two matches
12:41Against England
12:43Harshit Rana will play
12:45In the third match
12:47They will check Bumrah
12:49If he is fit
12:51He is such a good bowler
12:53He will add colour to the Champions Trophy
12:55If he plays against Pakistan
12:57It will be better
12:59If he doesn't play
13:01It will be a good competition
13:03Bumrah is a big player
13:05They have seen him
13:07In the home series
13:09Pakistan should also
13:11Play in the next few days
13:13They must be watching
13:15Fakhar should be in the team
13:17They must be watching
13:19Imam's record
13:21Very good
13:23As far as the Champions Trophy is concerned
13:25Will the ground be ready
13:27Because the upgradation
13:29Is in the last stages
13:31Our representative
13:33Shahzad Malik
13:35Is with the director of PCB
13:37Kazi Jawad
13:39What is happening?
13:41The upgradation work
13:43Is in the last stages
13:45We have with us
13:47The director of PCB
13:49Kazi Jawad
13:51Let's talk to him
13:53Tell us
13:55How far is the work?
13:57The work is
13:59In the initial stages
14:01The lights
14:03And screens
14:05Will be ready in 2-3 days
14:07We are installing the seats
14:09The ground floor
14:11Will be ready in 2-3 days
14:13We will go up
14:15Till 27th January
14:17We will complete everything
14:19Inside and outside
14:21Our primary work
14:23Is to improve the access
14:25To the stadium
14:27There was a single road
14:29Now there is a double road
14:31We are installing
14:33The road furniture
14:35We are improving the approach
14:37We are improving the periphery
14:39We are doing horticulture
14:41We will plant trees
14:43It will be a good value addition
14:45In the Lahore infrastructure
14:47Kazi Jawad was with us
14:49He said that between 25th and 27th January
14:51The upgradation work
14:53Will be completed
14:55The outside work
14:57Will give a beautiful view
14:59It is a great work
15:01We always say
15:03That we don't have international level stadiums
15:05It is taking time
15:07But things are getting better
15:09If you get an event in any country
15:11The infrastructure changes
15:13Pakistan didn't get an event for a long time
15:15In 1996 we saw that stadiums were upgraded
15:17There were some
15:19But not like this
15:21May Allah make it complete on time
15:23And show the world
15:25How good our stadiums are
15:27How good our hospitality is
15:29Let's talk about Karachi
15:31Ali Hassan was with us
15:33The work was going on fast
15:35The main thing is
15:37The person sitting up there
15:39Mohsin Naqvi
15:41He didn't see the time
15:43And did the work fast
15:45It shows
15:47His resolve
15:49That all stadiums
15:51Will be ready on time
15:53Insha Allah
15:55It will be a state of the art facility
15:57It will be fun
15:59Fans used to complain
16:01But it will be gone
16:03Thank you Mr. Ashmi
16:05That's all for today
16:07Take care
16:09Allah Hafiz