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00:00Hello and welcome to Sports Room. I am your host, Najeeb Ulhasnain.
00:17And everyone has the same question in their minds. Will there be a Champions Trophy in Pakistan?
00:23Or will a hybrid model be accepted?
00:26Today was a very important meeting.
00:28And it was going on for a long time.
00:30After this, we will know who will win.
00:33But this meeting ended as soon as it started.
00:36Now it is being said that the next 24 to 48 hours are very important.
00:40After that, we will know what the decision is.
00:43And the venue date is casual.
00:45Broadcasters are very worried about this.
00:48We will talk about this.
00:50Let's take a break here.
00:52We will come back from the break.
00:53We will continue the discussion.
00:55Former Chairman Khalid Mehmood will be with us.
00:58And Shahid Hashmi is in the studio.
01:00We will talk about this in detail.
01:02Let's take a break here.
01:07Glad to have you back once again to Sports Room.
01:09Today is a very important discussion.
01:11Former Chairman Khalid Mehmood is with us.
01:13Shahid is also in the studio.
01:15Khalid, first of all, I come to you.
01:17Tell me, today it seemed that something would be known.
01:22What will happen?
01:23And in this 10-minute meeting, I think it must have been introduced.
01:26So the meeting went ahead.
01:28So how will it go ahead?
01:30How will it reach a concrete decision?
01:33What is the future of the Champions Trophy?
01:39Thank you very much.
01:40You are really getting a lot of time to discuss this topic.
01:45And it is also true that everyone thought that the meeting would take place.
01:50And the way the decision will be made, it will be decided.
01:53But this meeting is also not a good omen in my opinion.
01:59Because this 24-hour or 48-hour meeting will be held.
02:04The representatives of the cricket boarders of India will talk to people in full detail.
02:12That this is the benefit of it.
02:14If it happens like this, we will be able to give you this benefit.
02:19So I don't know the details on what basis this meeting has been held.
02:25But I have an idea that this will also be done by India.
02:29That we consult each other.
02:32Then we will come to you with a unanimous decision.
02:36So what is left to happen?
02:39I have said it many times and I repeat it again.
02:42What will happen is what India wants.
02:45What kind of formula will it accept?
02:48The ICC will also advance the same formula.
02:51They will not be offended in any way.
02:54As far as our position is concerned, it is correct.
02:57The whole country knows.
02:59All people have said it.
03:01But I find one thing very strange and very scary.
03:05That if your position is ethical and moral.
03:09And all this is there.
03:11Then why are you sitting so silent for so long?
03:14Look, you know.
03:15Cricket journalists know.
03:17For about 4-5 months.
03:19This kind of news was coming from the Indian media.
03:24That the Indian team will not go to Pakistan without the permission of the government.
03:34It was clear that we are not saying anything about it now.
03:37So at that time, no kind of agreement came from the Pakistan Cricket Board.
03:43No kind of effort was made.
03:45They did not discuss any reason.
03:48There were very strange reactions.
03:50When it was said that their media is saying this.
03:54So the answer from here was that the tournament will be brought by the same team.
03:59That is, the ICC team will bring it.
04:01I feel that the one who said this.
04:04That maybe there is no idea.
04:06How does world cricket run?
04:09How big is the ICC?
04:11And what is the role of the big countries in it?
04:14So talking about this kind of thing was very meaningless and useless.
04:18After that, when news started coming that India will not come here to play.
04:25And we are talking about the hybrid model.
04:27So it was delayed at that time too.
04:29The cricket board said quietly.
04:31We will sit quietly until we get information from the government.
04:37So what I mean to say is that the situation was right.
04:41But no effort was made to convince the world.
04:46Absolutely, Khalid sir. I agree.
04:48Khalid sir has raised a very good point.
04:52Khalid sir is saying that this has been going on for 4-5 months.
04:56I know that this has been going on since 2008-2009.
05:00We always get the lollipop of government approval subject to government approval.
05:06The problem is that when the Champions Trophy was won, Rameez Raja was the chairman.
05:11He thought that he would raise this point.
05:13But he was released in December 2022.
05:16Then Najam Sethi came.
05:17He adopted the hybrid model at the Asia Cup.
05:20Pakistan was forced to go to the hybrid model.
05:23After that, they were going to talk about what will happen next.
05:27India will come to us next.
05:30We are hybrid.
05:31They were removed.
05:32Zaka Ashraf came.
05:33Zaka Ashraf proudly said that the hybrid model was made by the PCB.
05:37This hybrid model is ours.
05:38And that is why the Indian media and officials are saying that
05:41when they were appreciating the hybrid model, why aren't they taking it again?
05:45But now, one thing should be decided.
05:48If this time also the hybrid model, as Khalid Mahbub sir said,
05:51will be the one that India wants.
05:53If the hybrid model will be there,
05:55and India's match will be on the hybrid model,
05:58then in the next event, Pakistan should say
06:00that we want to play on the hybrid model from India.
06:03We will not go to India.
06:04Why double standard?
06:05You are not ready to come to us.
06:07But you are ready to call us.
06:09But the thing is that we cannot blame anyone else in this, Khalid sir.
06:12Because when we have shown this way earlier,
06:15that it is an ACC event, so let's do hybrid.
06:18So now there will be pressure on us.
06:21But the good thing is that we are seeing for the first time
06:24that the Pakistan Cricket Board and especially Chairman Mohsin Naqvi
06:27are standing on a strong stand.
06:30But your point is also valid that the stance is strong,
06:33but what are you doing for it?
06:35And in the same stance, when I asked PCB in the beginning,
06:38in today's meeting, they said that our stance has been done,
06:41so now there was a bit of fun.
06:43There was a bit of fun, and then they cancelled it.
06:46Yes, Khalid sir, what will you say on this?
06:49Yes, I absolutely agree that the Pakistan Cricket Board
06:54must have done all this.
06:57But you also see what is its background.
07:00When the Big Three formula came,
07:03at that time also we had a stance, a very valid stance,
07:06that this is a game of equality,
07:09it is not that where more money is coming from,
07:12more money should be given to it.
07:14And we adopted a very strict stance on our part
07:17that we will not let this happen.
07:19And what happened after that?
07:21Our representatives at that time
07:23spoke to the Indian Cricket Board,
07:26and if you come back and check the records,
07:29a very interesting statement was given after coming back,
07:32that we have won, we have achieved a lot,
07:35we have accepted the Big Three formula,
07:38but in return we will get six series from India.
07:42Six series.
07:43You know that one series is very beneficial,
07:46so we will get six.
07:48Tell me, where are those six series,
07:50which you played a big drum for?
07:52So the thing is that
07:54it is a very good thing to follow the principles,
07:57but along with that,
07:59keeping in mind the international factors,
08:02the issues,
08:04then you should make a way for yourself,
08:07and you should make such a way
08:09that you do not have any weakness,
08:12no shame.
08:13Now the situation is that we have said,
08:16if you do it, they do not agree,
08:18that if you want to do hybrid,
08:20then what will you do?
08:22We will have two options,
08:24that either we will play in this,
08:26or we will play,
08:28what else can we do?
08:30So that is a very strict option,
08:32which I think should not come.
08:35Okay, let's take a break here,
08:37we will come back from the break,
08:39and then the second thing about Pakistan is that
08:41if this does not happen,
08:42then we will not play a match with India,
08:44and we will talk about what will happen,
08:46on the other side of this break.
08:50Glad to have you back once again to Sports Room,
08:52and now once again,
08:54let's go to Khalid Mehmood.
08:56Mr. Khalid, tell me,
08:58if Pakistan comes to the conclusion that
09:00even if there is a hybrid,
09:02then we will not play with India,
09:04and if we go to India,
09:06then we will also never play.
09:08So this is also a big loss for the broadcasters,
09:10there will be a lot of pressure on the ICC,
09:12Yes, you are absolutely right,
09:14in fact,
09:16the value of the India-Pakistan match is very high,
09:18that is,
09:20by now your listeners
09:22must know,
09:24that on one side,
09:26there is a majority of matches,
09:28and on the other side,
09:30the majority of Pakistan-India matches are almost equal,
09:32so this is a very big loss.
09:34But the question is,
09:36will India be concerned about this loss?
09:38India does not care,
09:40India will not care,
09:42India will not care,
09:44because their board is so happy,
09:46their corporate sector
09:48is very strong,
09:50it supports cricket very much,
09:52they will not care,
09:54it is such a rich board.
09:56Yes, the people who had to care,
09:58they are West Indies,
10:00who have a shortage of funds,
10:02South Africa is also there,
10:04Sri Lanka is there, Bangladesh is there,
10:06Zimbabwe is there,
10:08they will be affected,
10:10because if the profit of the tournament
10:12is less,
10:14then obviously they will get very little share.
10:16So these were the people
10:18with whom we should have lobbied,
10:20we should have talked to them,
10:22we should have explained this to them.
10:24Anyway,
10:26we have wasted that opportunity now.
10:28So what is left is that
10:30if Pakistan says
10:32that if we want to play hybrid,
10:34then we will not play with India,
10:36then it is not possible,
10:38because if you are a member of the ICC,
10:40then on what basis will you say
10:42that we will not play with India,
10:44if you are ready to play
10:46even if you go abroad.
10:48My opinion is that
10:50if any reasonable demand of Pakistan
10:52can be understood,
10:54then it will be that
10:56okay, if the hybrid model
10:58has to be run,
11:00then it will be in every tournament,
11:02whenever there will be a match,
11:04if there will be a tournament
11:06in India,
11:08then Pakistan will not play with them,
11:10they will play in some other country.
11:12We can argue on this
11:14as much as possible.
11:16Okay, Mr. Shahid,
11:18the time for closing has come,
11:20just tell me that
11:22now we should not stay on the hope
11:24of any false promise,
11:26we have made many false promises before.
11:28Pakistan should take a stand,
11:30but take a written confirmation
11:32that if any knockout match
11:34happens in India,
11:36then it will be in a neutral venue.
11:38Okay, thank you very much,
11:40Mr. Khalid Behmood,
11:42Mr. Shahid Hashmi,
11:44and obviously,
11:46we have already told you
11:48that in about 24-48 hours,
11:50we will know,
11:52when the second meeting will take place,
11:54then we will know
11:56where this situation is going.
11:58That's all for now,