Where will Shadeur play? Could Deion coach in NFL? Thoughts on Deion suggesting there are teams he won't "allow" his son to play for?
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00:00For me, it's very simple in terms of, you know, I look at Deion Sanders and what he's doing and
00:05we talk about nepotism and how it, you know, manifests itself in these sports and how it's
00:10covered when it's one of the Mannings or Deion's kid or whatever or LeBron. I just, I watch when
00:18you have an opportunity to put your name to something and you don't sign it, like, I'm sorry,
00:24when Bill Belichick was a GM and a player didn't sign a franchise tag, it wasn't just taking his
00:30word for it. You had to sign the actual contract. And the fact that he has, it is interesting to me,
00:35maybe 20% chance he goes to the NFL if an opportunity arises. And I think that there's no
00:41way that the Celtics would trade Jalen Brown to make the team more valuable. It just doesn't
00:47make sense. So I, if I had to pick one, I would go with the Lombardi one. I would also just say
00:54that if you had to pick which one would be more successful sooner, if they stay at their current
00:59job, Vrabel or Belichick, I think Belichick will have far more success if he sticks around at UNC
01:07in the first two to three years than Vrabel with the Patriots. Yeah, because it's a little bit easier
01:12to turn a college program around than it is. He'll be able to recruit. I mean, that's a destination
01:16now. Yeah, that's a destination because one thing that he has in his back pocket or in all,
01:24you know, we talk to Billy-O all the time. A lot of these kids, yeah, they got the money for the
01:28NILs. You know, they, they got the money. Maybe they don't have the type of money that an Alabama
01:33or Georgia has, but the one thing that they have that some of those other schools don't have
01:38is they can get their kids to the NFL a lot quicker and a lot easier just because of Bill
01:46Belichick's name and his relationship with whether it's, I mean, think about how many people
01:51are off his tree that are going to be coaching in the NFL. So having that type of, of, of
01:59credibility would, if I'm a kid, if I'm a kid or I'm a dad of a kid, I would say NIL is great,
02:07but this guy can get you to the NFL? We're going to UNC. Don't you think that Bill Belichick being
02:12the head coach, though, a lot of companies, brands are going to want to offer NIL deals
02:17to guys playing under him? But remember how NIL works. I don't think a lot of people understand
02:22it. And Dion explained it pretty good. NILs are basically name, image, and likeness, right?
02:31Or endorsements. Right, right. But most of these kids- That would be it. Right, but most of these
02:35kids are getting paid off of the collective. The collective is the money that the school gets.
02:42Right. Right? It's separate from the NILs. So the only real, because Dion said it this way,
02:48how many college football kids do you see doing commercials? Very little. How many college
02:54football kids, like if you- Wait, wait, wait, wait. In the markets, a lot. Like I'm sure in
02:58Tuscaloosa and in- No, no, no, but if you really look, Curtis, if you go, go to their social media
03:03pages, the NIL is, you know, you're getting maybe the Shadoors and the Travis Hunters,
03:10but a lot of these kids are getting the money through the collective. So like Carson Beck
03:19goes to Miami. There's a report out there that he got a $4 million deal. That is coming from
03:25the collective. That is the money that the school got, that the school was able to raise through
03:30boosters and everything else and saying, okay, if you come here, here's what we can pay you.
03:34We don't need, you don't need to go out and do social media because that's what the NIL was
03:40originally thought to be. Yeah. I just think of UNC like a BC where they have a lot of wealthy,
03:47affluent alum who are probably going to be putting a lot of money when it comes to the collective
03:53for Bill Belichick to get whoever he wants because he is the head coach.
03:56They have 20 million now. That's the report out of there. And it would be,
04:00and I know he would never tell us, but it would be interesting to see what BC's collective is.
04:05I'm sure that's gone up. Right. And so I think we actually just got to $25.
04:09So, and Curtis, but that's really the way that they're able to get some of these kids. And it's
04:14great that we talked to Billy Oh about it because you, if you go to a lot of these kids' social
04:19media, they're not promoting brands or promoting companies on their social media. Go, I'm telling
04:25you, go look and you'll see a lot of these kids don't do that because the money that they're
04:29getting is from the collective. And it's basically like, here's, here's 2 million.
04:34You don't have to do anything, but we're able to kind of raise this money and that,
04:39but Belichick will have the ability to do that. But Bill having the ability to sit in the kid's
04:44house and say, I can get you to the NFL. I mean, that's priceless. I would ask you this weeks as
04:51someone who knows Bill better than any of us. If he was given truth serum today and asked if
04:58he would rather be coaching the saints or North Carolina, what would he say?
05:03Saints.
05:04Right. So, and that's going to exist as long as he is this close to breaking that record.
05:11As long as there still is that bad blood with the Robert Kraft treatment of him on the way
05:15out the door and everything else, there will be a desire. And candidly, I'm always called the
05:20Belichick hater. I think it's obscene that Nick Sirianni is coaching the Eagles right now.
05:26That is the dumbest waste of talent. Nick Sirianni seems like a very nice guy,
05:30a great daddy brings them on the, you know, to the press conference when he has a bad game,
05:35but you are not doing everything in your power to win. If you have a roster that is as talented
05:41as the Eagles is, and you have a guy in Nick Sirianni operating it at this time of the year.
05:45And let me just say, Carson Beck has a big deal with Chipotle, as it looks on Instagram. So
05:51it seems like he's doing just fine.
05:52I am shocked that BC basketball doesn't have a good Chipotle deal.
05:56Yeah, but if you really look, if you go to, you know, Cam Ward, if you really look and you go to
06:01their social media pages, a lot of these. Yeah, they don't have ads every day, but they probably,
06:05that ad, that Chipotle ad is probably worth, you know, over a million dollars, like.
06:10But the majority of them are getting the money from the, and it, you know, we'll interview,
06:14and you know, I think this is a great question to ask. We'll ask Billy-O next week. But the
06:18majority of these kids are getting the money through the collective. And usually that's why
06:23there was just this thing on one of these college football shows, and Trent Dilfer was on there
06:33talking, he coaches for UAB. And he's in the AAC, and he was talking about how other schools,
06:41there's a couple schools in the AAC, which I believe it's probably like Memphis,
06:45and I can't remember who the, maybe Tulane, are able to outbid guys on their roster because they
06:54have more money in the collective to say, okay, you're a starter on our roster at UAB, come to
07:01Tulane, we'll give you 50,000. You might be a backup, but you're getting more money than UAB's
07:08able to offer. So they're stealing some of these starters, and they're just using them as backup
07:13because of the collective. And that's the where, that's the majority of where these kids are making
07:18their money from. So if you're like Belichick, you're able to go out and get those boosters and,
07:25you know, former alumni people that are able to get those players to come in. That's what Portnoy
07:31did with the kid Bryce Underwood. He was able to get the lady's husband, who's that rich dude,
07:37to say, hey, we'll give you what you want. Yeah, speaking of sponsors, I feel like Wiggy
07:41and the Woman should get a sponsor pretty soon, looking at those numbers before Christmas break.
07:46Sheesh, Wiggy and the Woman with Razor? We need to get an NIL or some collective over here.
07:53I think that that should be its own brand entirely, separate from the Greg Hill Show. It
07:58should be like an understudy. I don't know if there's going to be a big pushback against this.
08:05I'm sure the conversations will build as the draft approaches and Deion's there. I know we
08:11have a caller. Is it Tim in Hanover who wanted to talk about the nepotism before we get to the
08:14break? Tim, you there? Yeah. Yeah. Real quick, guys. I just wanted to bring up the point that,
08:20you know what, this nepotism thing with the coaches, that's half the battle. The other
08:25battle is if you get a team that has horrible talent to it, that quarterback goes on there,
08:31that also ruins them because, you know what, that team isn't able to show this quarterback
08:36his abilities. And then what happens is that kid gets blamed for half of the problem.
08:40I got two quarterbacks. I just want to make this real quick. Two quarterbacks have been following
08:45since college. One of them was Riley Leonard. This kid's going to be a stud. I compared him with
08:52Josh Allen, and I got the other one that we have. Unfortunately, hopefully he gets shown.
08:59It's going to be the kid that came from Tennessee. He's sitting in our pocket. We got two
09:04great quarterbacks right now, which is Milton. I compared him to Cam Newton when he had a good arm
09:11with Carolina, one of his last year at Carolina. All right. The Riley Leonard kid, I mean, I
09:16watched him play. I don't know, Tim, if I would put him in the Josh Allen category. He's a good
09:22runner, but I don't know if he throws the ball. He has the accuracy that Josh Allen has.
09:30To me, that's going to be the biggest, you know, when you look at the game,
09:34Notre Dame versus Ohio State. That's why I said it's going to come down to the play of
09:37those two quarterbacks, Riley Leonard versus Will Howard. One quick comment off of that,
09:42Whit. You're right, but you know what? They projected when he went to Notre Dame,
09:48Notre Dame did not have the same line they had the following year. And if he gets a solid
09:54offensive line around him, this kid's going to show his ability of just not running. He's a
10:00smart runner along with a good runner, and he does have a strong arm. And Milton, he's got a killer
10:05arm, and this kid can run like Cam Newton. And I'll tell you what, he's a hidden prospect that
10:11we're blessed to have two great quarterbacks right now in our organization, and they got to develop
10:17them and get everything they need for these guys, and then we could have a solid team.
10:21The worst thing that happened at the end of the season was not that the Patriots won and took the
10:29number one pick away. It's that the Joe Milton nuts were given an offseason to talk about how
10:34the guy is a hidden jewel who's the next coming of Cam Newton. I like Joe Milton, though. I think
10:39here's what I would do with Joe Milton, though. I mean, I don't know if he's going to be the next
10:44Cam Newton, but his physical traits remind you of Cam Newton because he's big, he's athletic,
10:50he can run. I would play him a lot in the preseason, highlight him, highlight him, and
10:58then see if you can get a third or fourth round pick for him because when did you draft him in
11:03the sixth round? I would keep him as a backup, man. This kid could be a quality backup.
11:09Jackson, I said thank you to him like 16 times. Okay, I know he's a quality backup.
11:14I know that Joe Milton was great when he was here. There is a, I would say, probably unlucky
11:22you're going to find two Hall of Fame or MVP quarterbacks if he's Cam Newton in the sixth
11:27round of the draft as the same organization. Just slightly unlikely. I hope he is. He seems like a
11:32great guy. I mean, the way he talked about Drake May after that game, the final game of the season,
11:36he seems like a guy you can easily root for, but let's not get ahead of ourselves a little much.
11:40No, but you would say he, I mean, we don't know what he could be, but you would say just
11:45watching him play, and we do it with guys in the preseason. We get overly excited.
11:49I would just say his skill set has you to go, okay, let's give this kid some more opportunity
11:55and see if we can trade him for something because obviously you're not going to keep him as a backup
12:01because you have Drake May. Unless you decide, oh, he played well, we're going to keep him around
12:05and see if we can continue to raise his trade value. But his skill set makes you go, all right,
12:12I'd like to see a little bit more of him and what he could potentially be as a-
12:16Do you remember who was the most electrifying guy on the Patriots preseason roster last season?
12:22Last season? Jesus, last-
12:25Malik Mania. Malik Cunningham.
12:28Malik Mania.
12:28Do you remember? How could they cut Malik Cunningham? What are they doing?
12:33And now I don't even know. Is he even in the league anymore? I have no idea.
12:36I'm not sure. I mean, that's-
12:37Joe Milton seems great. I don't think he's going to be out of the league,
12:40but there are people that think he's a great quarterback or could be great,
12:43I think, are losing their mind.
12:45Malik Cunningham is with the Ravens.
12:47All right. Still with the Ravens then. Okay, he's been with them for a minute.
12:51Did he play this year?
12:52No, no, he's not going to play behind Lamar Jackson unless it's-
12:56I mean, I don't know, in any capacity.
12:57They have him as a wide receiver though.
12:59Oh, okay. Do they? All right, so maybe they moved him.
13:02Yeah.
13:02Is Zay Flowers in or out? I don't know what's going on with that.
13:04I think he's still out. I saw something based on the injury that he got. It would take him even-
13:11He missed practice again.
13:12Yeah.
13:13They said that injury would take normally three to four weeks. So, yeah.
13:18All right. Well, too bad for Zay Flowers, a guy that the Patriots had in their backyard and failed to draft.