Bushra Bibi said she wasn't sure about the Singjani matter... Salman Akram Raja's major revelati
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00:00When it comes to behind-the-door contacts, your party reacts very strongly, there is no such thing.
00:09Iberisha Saif has himself made two explosions, listen to what he says.
00:16Khan sir has said a couple of times that he has been in contact with me,
00:19and different people come and go who meet him,
00:22there are contacts with his establishment, so they go and give messages to Khan sir,
00:26and Khan sir said a couple of times in the media
00:29When I and Barrister Gauhar met, we told Khan sir that
00:34we have been told that instead of D-Chowk, you should go to some other place,
00:38for this meeting and protest.
00:40Khan sir finally said that fine, you can do it in Sangjani.
00:43I conveyed this message to Ali Ameen Gandapur sir as well.
00:47But later, Gandapur sir later said that
00:52his wife is saying that I don't agree with this.
00:58There are two things.
00:59One, we thought that whatever Khan sir says is the last word.
01:03It is the absolute last word.
01:05Iberisha Saif himself is saying that he conveyed the message,
01:08his wife said that she doesn't agree.
01:10Then he said that people are meeting Khan sir,
01:13there are contacts.
01:15So, if there are contacts, and his wife didn't agree to such a big thing,
01:20then it is not possible that the news that his wife is trying to get rid of him,
01:26and Khan sir has said on the record that whatever his wife is doing,
01:29she is doing it for him.
01:31So, it means that there are contacts.
01:33People are meeting Khan sir,
01:36whether he agrees or not is obviously a different matter.
01:39And if his wife didn't agree to such a big thing,
01:42then it means that there is honesty in the news about their meeting.
01:45He is still on a roll.
01:49Look, it is not like that.
01:51Khan sir has also said that the incident of not agreeing to Sangjani,
01:57his wife said that I don't believe that Khan sir has said this.
02:02I want to talk to him directly.
02:04She didn't reject Khan sir's words.
02:06So, don't take any impression.
02:08She just didn't believe that this was a message from him or not.
02:11Whether it was conveyed to him properly or not.
02:15As far as new contacts are concerned,
02:18Is this your analysis or did you talk to Bushra exactly on this issue?
02:24Yes, exactly.
02:26This is exactly what happened.
02:28She didn't say that I won't agree to Khan sir's orders.
02:30This didn't happen.
02:32She just didn't believe that this was her message.
02:35So, for her, Barista Saif and Ali Ameen Ghindapur are not credible people
02:39that she doesn't trust their words.
02:41Is their loyalty doubtful?
02:44After all, there is a Chief Minister and a Spokesperson.
02:47Ali Ameen was not there.
02:49Barista Saif and Barista Gohar met.
02:52So, she doesn't trust both of them.
02:55After that, it's not a matter of trust.
02:58She thought that the atmosphere was not good enough to communicate to Khan sir.
03:03She wanted to talk to him directly.
03:06I am sorry for pestering you on this.
03:09But what is the confusion in this?
03:11A person comes and says that Khan sir has said this.
03:14What kind of complicated communication is this?
03:17I am just trying to tell you whether you will trust me or not.
03:24In that atmosphere, she thought that she should talk to him directly.
03:28She tried to talk to him, but it didn't work out.
03:32So, let's leave it at that.
03:34As far as the meetings are concerned, people meet each other.
03:38There is a time for direct meetings.
03:41There is a time for meeting friends and political colleagues.
03:46So, if someone talks to him and says that this is a possibility,
03:52if you say so, I will talk to him.
03:55So, this kind of thing happens with Khan sir.
03:58But he does not talk at all.
04:01He says that I am standing on my principle.
04:04If I have to be released, then it should be according to the law.
04:07I should be released or given bail.
04:10I will not make any deal.
04:11Last question.
04:12You are talking about relations.
04:15Last question.
04:16We have run out of time.
04:17Very quickly.
04:18Now, you people have said that if he does not agree to the commission in the Friday meeting,
04:24then this is the end of the conversation.
04:26Dialogue is over.
04:27He says that he is waiting.
04:29Will you bring all the TORs?
04:31Who will be in the commission?
04:32How will it be?
04:33What will be the TORs?
04:34Are you taking a complete roadmap with TORs?
04:40Or will you simply give two demands that these are our demands?
04:44Are you taking a complete paperwork?
04:47No, we have not received any such information that we have to give TORs.
04:51If they agree that yes, they can do it and draft TORs, then it can be done at that time.
04:58But they are not taking it.
05:00But there will not be TORs, there will be two or three sentences.
05:03We write petitions daily.
05:05It is not difficult to write four sentences in an hour.
05:09I will be there.
05:10I will write if TORs are asked.
05:12Salman, thank you very much.
05:14The audience listened to the talks.
05:16It is still going on.
05:17The government has repeatedly said that we need a detailed roadmap.
05:23Otherwise, these talks cannot end that day.
05:26Now, if the PTI is serious at the deadline of 31 January,
05:30then we would hope that they take a complete roadmap.
05:34Otherwise, the situation is such that this negotiation is a stillborn child.
05:38It may have died before it was born.