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00:00You
00:25Sorry, I gotta go
00:30DJ Hoyt, Kenta Hoi, and I'm Kenta Hoi
00:34I'm here.
00:36Why are we starting like this?
00:38The way you start is so unique.
00:40I've been doing YouTube for a year for this.
00:42You've been adjusting?
00:44I was doing it to get the best.
00:46I see.
00:48We're back to Goraku Gatari for the first time in a year.
00:50We're back.
00:52We submitted the project proposal for the trip.
00:54I see.
00:56I see.
00:59You didn't have to say that.
01:01There were a lot of things.
01:03It's been a year.
01:05You came back to this house.
01:07I was held back.
01:09That's not important.
01:11This is the sound.
01:13This is the sound.
01:15They're here.
01:17Welcome.
01:19It's been a while.
01:21They came together.
01:23Thank you for coming together.
01:25Please have a seat.
01:27Shikiru, shikiru.
01:29Go, shikiru.
01:31What kind of program is it?
01:33Kuruma-san, please explain.
01:35Today, we wanted to talk about
01:37the mysteries and questions
01:39about entertainment and culture.
01:41We read everything.
01:57In 2023 and 2024,
01:59the M-1 Grand Prix
02:01was held for the first time in a year.
02:03A sharp analysis of manzai
02:05is the focus of this program.
02:07This is Reiwa Roman-kun.
02:09In this program,
02:11we analyze the mysteries
02:13and questions of culture
02:15that have no answer
02:17and try to find an answer.
02:19We're back.
02:21We're back.
02:23We became M-1 champions.
02:26That's right.
02:28The recording was before the championship.
02:30That's right.
02:32So you were underestimating us.
02:34That's a good way to put it.
02:36I thought you were a comedian
02:38who would come back next time.
02:40You said everything.
02:42Mr. Shimizu.
02:44Nice to meet you.
02:46Nice to meet you.
02:48You're on Sasurai Laby's radio show.
02:50What?
02:52The first thing you say is weird.
02:54He's easy to understand.
02:56He's on Orai Papa.
02:58You like comedy, right?
03:00I'm nervous today.
03:02I thought I was wearing a kimono.
03:04What kind of comedy do you like?
03:06This year,
03:08I like Evers.
03:10This year?
03:12I like that kind of comedy.
03:14I went to the theater
03:16because of Evers.
03:18You went to the theater?
03:20I went to Jinbocho,
03:23but I don't go to the theater.
03:25I also went to the Jinbocho Bachi Bachi Live.
03:27Jinbocho Bachi Bachi Live?
03:29It's the most common live show.
03:31That's how much you like comedy.
03:33I'm looking forward to it.
03:35Nice to meet you.
03:37Mr. Shimizu.
03:39I'm nervous.
03:41It's easy to find out.
03:43Let's cheat a little more.
03:45Let's choose a topic.
03:47Yes.
03:49There are nine squares.
03:51There are a lot of topics
03:53to talk about with these members.
03:55That's right.
03:57Let's choose this one.
03:59Let's think about the shortest way
04:01to become a comedian in 2025.
04:03Let's do it.
04:05In the past,
04:07comedians often appeared
04:09on TV programs.
04:11However,
04:13these days,
04:15there are more opportunities
04:17to be a comedian
04:20in 2025.
04:22What should I do
04:24to become a comedian in 2025?
04:26Let's think about it.
04:28Bachin!
04:30I've been preparing a whiteboard
04:32for various shows
04:34for a year.
04:36I don't use it.
04:38I can talk.
04:40This is not a good idea.
04:42I want to visualize it once.
04:44I thought that
04:46the position would be established.
04:48That's the shortest way
04:50to become a comedian in 2025.
04:52You should create a position
04:54instead of something.
04:56That's what I thought.
04:58Create a position?
05:00I thought that
05:02it would be something like a military exercise.
05:04That's right.
05:06I think you should pick
05:08a topic and create a position
05:10for the community.
05:12Okay.
05:14You should find a topic
05:16I think that's the shortest way to sell it.
05:19I see.
05:20It's the same everywhere, on YouTube, and on TV.
05:23I think Suga-chan is definitely in a new position.
05:27How is Suga-chan new?
05:28Suga-chan is the best No.1.
05:30How is he new?
05:31Isn't Suga-chan a retro boom?
05:34Is Bertie-chan a retro boom?
05:36A revival?
05:37No, it's a revival.
05:38A revival?
05:39I think Bertie-chan is a revival.
05:42He's like a re-enactment of an old show.
05:45He's like a re-enactment of a new show.
05:48He's like a re-enactment of a new show.
05:50I think the people above him are also enjoying the show.
05:53Is Gun-Pi-san new?
05:55Gun-Pi-san is new.
05:57Even he can't be on TV.
06:01I think that the work ethic of Gun-Pi-san is new.
06:05That kind of work ethic.
06:06I used to appear on TV as an entertainer, but now I'm more of an entertainer.
06:15I think it was a new experience for me to create content by myself.
06:23You're the one who was interviewed first, but now you're doing your own content on YouTube.
06:28Who's the most popular entertainer this year?
06:32I don't know who's the most popular entertainer this year.
06:38I'd like to know the criteria.
06:39I think it depends on the person, but I think the most popular entertainer is the one who sells the product.
06:47If you don't have a part-time job, you're already popular.
06:51I see.
06:52This product is popular.
06:54On top of that, there's someone who's really popular.
06:58I'm popular, but I'm popular on TV.
07:03And then there's Tsukasa-doru.
07:06Tsukasa-doru.
07:08He's on the MC side.
07:10In this case, I'd like to know who's the most popular entertainer.
07:14That's right.
07:15Who's the most popular entertainer?
07:18It's really hard for you to be the most popular entertainer.
07:22I'm not that popular. I'm very popular.
07:25I think Anno-chan was popular this year.
07:31That's the criteria.
07:33But Yasuko-san is really popular.
07:36Yasuko-san is really popular.
07:39Yasuko-san is very popular.
07:41Yasuko-san is definitely popular.
07:43Yasuko-san is definitely popular.
07:45But I'm not that popular.
07:47Suga-chan, you're also popular.
07:49But you're not the type to be on a certain show.
07:53You're not the type to be on a certain show.
07:55If I'm not that popular, I'd like to be on a show like Hyoroku-san.
07:59That's right.
08:01Aoki Macho is also popular.
08:03It's a matter of whether you're popular or not.
08:06I see.
08:07If I'm not that popular, I'd like to be on a show like Hyoroku-san.
08:12Sarabaru and...
08:15If I'm not that popular, I'd like to be on a show like Hyoroku-san.
08:19Ariyoshi-san.
08:23Kawashima-san.
08:24Rabbit.
08:27The variety show is a group.
08:31I want to be on a show like Sui-da-U.
08:33Let's make it a show.
08:35Sui-da-U.
08:37Kabe?
08:38But the wall is not a hook-up program, is it?
08:41There are quite a few people who come out.
08:43But it's like landing from the wall and flapping.
08:47It's funny.
08:49It's funny.
08:50It used to be funny.
08:52It's funny on this wall.
08:54It's funny in the sub.
08:56There's Tarius, right?
08:57In the sense of Nittere.
08:59Can you hold it in Nittere?
09:01What is the TBS toy?
09:03It's a bad way to say it.
09:05There are two kinds of toys.
09:06It's a toy you want.
09:09Sometimes, that guy looks confused.
09:12I think that's a danger.
09:15I'm a big fan.
09:18It's not a good way to go.
09:20It's a way to show that you can go on.
09:22Oh, yeah.
09:24It's not a way to go.
09:26It's a way to show the rest.
09:28Yes, yes, yes.
09:29I see.
09:30If you compare it to the waterfall,
09:32I think it's easier for people who are confused to go on.
09:35For example, Hyoroku and...
09:37It doesn't have to be someone who's been on recently.
09:40Kuritani is on a lot, too.
09:41Yes, Kuritani.
09:43I think it's better to think of a way to sell as much as Hyoroku.
09:46So, it's a way to show that you can go on.
09:48It's a way to show that you can go on.
09:49It's a way to show that you can go on.
09:50It's a way to show that you can go on.
09:51This year, Evers...
09:53He's not on this year.
09:55What's the reason?
09:57I think the story was pure and interesting in the last qualifier.
10:02It's a pure and simple story.
10:04It's a pure and simple story.
10:05Is Evers popular among Shimizu-san?
10:07Well, I think...
10:09It's popular.
10:10If I say it's a theater show, I think it's popular.
10:12Don't you think it's a theater show?
10:14I don't think so.
10:16I don't think it's a theater show.
10:17I don't think it's a theater show.
10:18I don't think it's a theater show.
10:20If you say it's a theater show,
10:21Miscat Brothers will be disbanded this month.
10:23It's okay.
10:24I'm putting all my money in my manager's account to pay off my debt.
10:27I'm putting all my money in my manager's account to pay off my debt.
10:28Do you know Evers?
10:29I know.
10:30I know.
10:31It's a M-1 qualifier.
10:33I think it's a hot topic.
10:36All the finalists are going to the final this year.
10:38I'm told a lot that I'm going to the final this year.
10:40I'm told a lot that I'm going to the final this year.
10:42If you were told by Anon, it would be popular.
10:47Wow.
10:49It's not that Shimizu-san is not happy.
10:53He knows the details.
10:55He knows the details of the actors.
10:58I thought it was amazing.
11:00He's an expert.
11:02He knows the famous people.
11:05He's a fan of celebrities.
11:07He's the least famous celebrity.
11:13Who do you think it is?
11:14The least famous?
11:15M-1 qualifier.
11:17There were 19 people in the last qualifier.
11:2019 people?
11:2119? Do you know 19 people?
11:2419 people?
11:26Are 19 people popular?
11:27No, they're not.
11:28They're not?
11:29Maybe they are.
11:30Is that all?
11:31M1...
11:32M1 is too big?
11:34We'll come back to that.
11:35Well, that's...
11:37That's what it is.
11:39The shortest M1.
11:40The shortest M1.
11:42No, it's not.
11:44You're not in a position to say no.
11:46That's true.
11:47I'm the successful one.
11:49M1?
11:50It's not M1.
11:51If you think about it,
11:52M1 doesn't get all the attention.
11:55So I'll start from zero.
11:56I'll start with the shortest one.
11:58I'll make a joke that will make people laugh.
12:03That's what La Parfait was all about.
12:06That's right.
12:07That's...
12:08La Parfait is a show about our impersonations.
12:13It's not a joke.
12:14There are people who get excited about this.
12:17It's not a joke.
12:18Why don't you get excited?
12:20There are people who think we should win.
12:23I don't think so.
12:24I don't think so.
12:25But when it comes to social media,
12:28the shortest route is to get three votes.
12:31That's right.
12:32It's a hot topic now.
12:34Even if you don't get three or four votes,
12:37people will still find it funny.
12:39So it doesn't matter.
12:41Getting three votes is a trend.
12:44It's a trend.
12:46Getting three votes is a trend.
12:48It's a trend that X recommends.
12:51I know that.
12:52People will look at it when they hear a name they don't know.
12:55If we can make a joke that makes people laugh,
12:58we can make a joke that will make people laugh.
13:03We can make a joke that will make fans laugh.
13:07We can make a joke that will make people laugh.
13:11I think it's better to watch Champions in M1.
13:14That's right.
13:15I think it's better to watch Champions in M1.
13:16Dark Horse Tare?
13:18That's right.
13:19Dark Horse Tare.
13:21Dark Horse Tare.
13:22Tare.
13:23Tare.
13:24Who was the most successful player?
13:27When it comes to characters,
13:29Pekopa was the most popular character in M1.
13:34That's right.
13:35Until then, he wore roller skates.
13:37That's right.
13:38He wore roller skates and appeared in Ali G.
13:41I forgot everything.
13:43I think he was the most successful player in M1.
13:48Pekopa and Sue.
13:50Sue Hirogarizu.
13:52Sue Hirogarizu has been active for a long time.
13:54She was active for a long time.
13:55She went to the final in M1 suddenly.
13:57The judges changed.
13:58The atmosphere was like,
13:59Can I raise the bar suddenly?
14:00I see.
14:01If she went to the final suddenly,
14:02she was already successful.
14:03That's important.
14:04She was already successful.
14:06She finished the character in one shot.
14:08She finished the character in one shot and won M1.
14:11That's true.
14:13I'm wondering how entertainers think about the way to cut the line.
14:19It's hard.
14:20That's right.
14:21Do you mean that's how you can sell?
14:22I think so.
14:23As you get more popular, you get more popular.
14:25If you get more popular, you can be more popular on TV.
14:29I think entertainers are far from the essence of entertainment.
14:34That's right.
14:35I'm wondering how much you pay attention to that.
14:38I'm wondering if it will change if you pay attention to that.
14:40I see.
14:41If the amount of exposure is the most important thing,
14:47the person who can cut the line is the strongest.
14:51Cut the line?
14:52That's a word I don't know.
14:54That's a word I don't know.
14:55That's true.
14:56Cut the line.
14:57It's a hack to cut the line.
14:59Mr. Kuruma is like that.
15:00He's like a linguist.
15:04He's like a copywriter.
15:07Everyone is competing for the clarity of the lines.
15:12That's true.
15:13It's all in one frame, so it goes around.
15:17That's true.
15:18The program I'm doing with Mr. Nagano...
15:23It goes around unbelievably.
15:25I've never thought it was going around or selling.
15:28Does it go around in the world?
15:30I watch a lot of TikTok.
15:33I see.
15:34Mr. Taira hasn't given up on TikTok.
15:36I haven't given up.
15:38Mr. Taira hasn't given up on TikTok.
15:40He uses TikTok like Google.
15:44Really?
15:45I use it for searching.
15:46He uses it as a search engine.
15:48Why?
15:49I don't think there are many people in this age.
15:51I'm 30 years old and I think I'm the only one.
15:53I can still see it on Instagram.
15:54I also search for a restaurant on TikTok.
15:57I feel that shortness is important every year.
16:02There are many people who can't stand being young for a long time.
16:10When I see TikTok, I can see what they are doing.
16:15I can make them understand.
16:17It's like calling a fool.
16:20If you had to choose a word, which one would it be?
16:24Why did you get a weapon out of your pocket at the end?
16:27It's like calling a fool.
16:29That's right.
16:31There is a lot of horror content these days.
16:36There is a real event called Yukue Fumeiten.
16:41It was a big hit.
16:4360% of the survey was about TikTok.
16:48You can't ignore the number of people who come to the concert from TikTok.
16:53I think so.
16:55No matter how popular it is on Twitter, people don't come to the concert.
17:02It's just popular on Twitter.
17:05People who come to the concert can't pay.
17:07They can't pay.
17:09They can't pay.
17:12I think that's true.
17:14People think that TikTok is less popular, but that's not true.
17:19I see.
17:20No one does that.
17:22Comedians don't do comedy on TikTok.
17:25They don't perform on stage.
17:27That's right.
17:28There are a lot of people.
17:30Yes.
17:31Excuse me.
17:33What's wrong?
17:35I was nervous.
17:38Is it easy to find out?
17:40I want you to cheat a little more.
17:42You should make it look like a multi-tap.
17:44It's a tape measure.
17:46It's the cheapest tape measure.
17:48Excuse me.
17:49What's wrong?
17:50Can I explain this?
17:52I understand that it sells at the shortest route.
17:56But there's also happiness.
17:59Yes.
18:00People who sell at the shortest route...
18:04I talked about this with my car before.
18:06It's just tough.
18:10It's just tough.
18:12I wonder if people who watch it every day are happy.
18:16I see.
18:18My image is that it sells at the shortest route.
18:21There's no happiness.
18:24So what you want is to sell at the shortest route.
18:28It's okay to sell at the shortest route, right?
18:32There are two types.
18:36But it's easier to sell at the shortest route.
18:46I see.
18:47I don't think we have a good conversation.
18:49What do you mean?
18:51I'm sorry.
18:52I just wanted to make sure.
18:54We need romance.
18:56Romance?
18:58This is just selling.
19:01It's okay.
19:03Don't you have a dream?
19:05What kind of dream do you have?
19:07I want to be like Anno-chan.
19:09Like Anno-chan?
19:11He's very busy.
19:13He needs physical strength.
19:14He's tough.
19:15But Anno-chan has a sad face sometimes.
19:19What's that?
19:21What's that supposed to mean?
19:24That's the feeling of the viewer.
19:27That's the feeling of the viewer.
19:29He's not trying to make a sad face.
19:33I think Anno-chan and I are similar.
19:36Not at all.
19:38Not at all.
19:40I think the opposite of that is romance.
19:43The opposite of Anno-chan?
19:45I'll tell you what's amazing about romance.
19:47We've been talking about it for a long time.
19:51We even published a book.
19:53We've crushed the meta.
19:58We've become young and popular.
20:00I said that, but I don't feel like I've fallen in love with it.
20:05I said that, but I don't feel like I've fallen in love with it.
20:08I feel like I'm loved.
20:10We're in bad terms.
20:11That's what I think.
20:12But Anno-chan and I...
20:15What?
20:17That's not true.
20:19Nagano-san, what do you think?
20:21Well, the two of them...
20:23The two of them...
20:24I don't think they wanted to...
20:26I think they were just doing what they wanted to do.
20:28Yes.
20:28Ano-chan and I.
20:29Yes, yes.
20:29We wanted to be famous.
20:31But we were like,
20:32we've become so famous.
20:34Sometimes, Ano-chan and I
20:35look like we're confused.
20:37Like,
20:38we're like,
20:39dangerous.
20:40We're big fans.
20:41We're big fans.
20:42That's what I think.
20:43And Ano-chan and I,
20:44we're like,
20:45we're brave people.
20:46Brave people.
20:47The genre is brave people.
20:48We're 50 years old,
20:50and she came out,
20:51and she said,
20:52I was like,
20:53what's with this girl?
20:55At first,
20:56I was like,
20:57it's me!
20:58I'm going to raise her!
21:00That's what I thought.
21:01And I was like,
21:03you know,
21:04I've been through a lot.
21:05Yes.
21:06Until now,
21:07I've had a few problems.
21:08A few problems.
21:09Yes, a few.
21:10But,
21:11I was so surprised,
21:12and I was so depressed.
21:13Yes.
21:14It's like,
21:15there's a bit of humanity
21:16in that.
21:17There's a gap.
21:18It's not perfect.
21:19Yes, yes, yes.
21:20I think that's why
21:21she's stuck in her teens.
21:23She's stuck in her teens.
21:25She's stuck.
21:26But isn't that not happiness?
21:28I don't think it's happiness.
21:30It's not happiness.
21:31I don't know either.
21:32Then what is romance?
21:33That's what romance is.
21:35Romantic people.
21:36Yes.
21:37Ano-chan and I,
21:38we're like,
21:39we're like,
21:40we're like,
21:41we're like,
21:42we're like,
21:43we're like,
21:44we're like,
21:45we're like,
21:46we're like,
21:47we're like,
21:48we're like,
21:49we're like,
21:50we're like,
21:51we're like,
21:52we're like,
21:53we're like,
21:54we're like,
21:56I heard a romance.
21:58What she said earlier,
21:59was that
22:00you get more of a feeling
22:01about romance
22:02when you're in to it.
22:03BOOMMM!
22:04That's what I wanted to say.
22:05A lot of people watching were saying,
22:06Because she's so smart.
22:07Oh,
22:08you guys did something with this,
22:09so that's awesome,
22:10the other one got hit with that.
22:11And,
22:13they made their eye soll face
22:14but they didn't get to know
22:16I didn't understand the meaning of it.
22:18I was like, what the hell is this?
22:20But I understood the meaning of it.
22:24So, which one do you want to go with?
22:26If you were my partner, Ano-chan,
22:28I would teach you.
22:32That's the shortest answer.
22:34How do you feel, Ano-san?
22:36I'm sorry.
22:38Do you think it's similar?
22:40It's exactly the same.
22:42You're lying.
22:44You're trying to make me laugh.
22:46It's exactly the same.
22:48Why do you think you two are popular?
22:50Why do you think you two are popular?
22:52I think it's because of their talent to surpass it.
22:54So, it's charisma.
22:56There are some parts that you don't like
22:58or some parts that you don't want to change,
23:00but you have a huge talent
23:02that's only under that.
23:04But you didn't bend yourself
23:06and you became popular,
23:08so you're on the happy side,
23:10in your opinion.
23:12I bent myself a lot.
23:14You bent yourself,
23:16and then you became popular.
23:18I thought I failed.
23:20I broke in the last game,
23:22but I was treated
23:24in a way I didn't expect.
23:26So, I made the shortest route
23:28when I got older.
23:30I really went for the shortest route.
23:32You did it with that in mind, right?
23:34You wanted to get the shortest route in the last game.
23:36I made it in a very creative way.
23:38So, the return was crazy.
23:40Nagano-san, you did this
23:42and then you reflected on it.
23:44I see.
23:46How did you become popular, Nagano-san?
23:48I became popular fast.
23:50I'm sorry.
23:52I'm sorry.
23:54It's just that Downtown was popular.
23:56I'm sorry.
23:58What are you sorry for?
24:00You don't have to apologize
24:02for Downtown being popular.
24:04It's just that Downtown was popular.
24:06You don't have to go that far.
24:08You're the same as everyone else.
24:10Make a gloomy face.
24:12Make a gloomy face.
24:14Like Seiko-chan.
24:16I'm sorry.
24:18I'm leaving.
24:20Why are you leaving?
24:22Don't leave.
24:24I'm not leaving.
24:26I'm not leaving.
24:28See you.
24:30I knew it!
24:32It started!
24:34I did it!
24:36I knew it!
24:38I did it!
24:42So, Kuruma-san,
24:44can you tell us the answer?
24:46The shortest way
24:48an entertainer can become popular
24:50in 2025 is
24:52when you're overjoyed.
24:54For the time being,
24:56you have to put in a catchy format
24:58and endure the desire to show off.
25:00The most influential content
25:02at that time
25:04will be released at once
25:06for the M-1 Grand Prix.
25:08After that,
25:10you have to show off
25:12your original comedy
25:14to the media.
25:16However,
25:18if you have a huge talent,
25:20you can just go ahead
25:22and become Nakano-san.
25:24It's a long conclusion.
25:26This is the conclusion.
25:28It's a long conclusion.
25:30Today's Tomasson
25:34Tomasson is
25:36a mysterious door
25:38on the second floor
25:40of a building.
25:42It's a staircase
25:44with nothing at the top.
25:46It's a part of a building
25:48that has become
25:50an intangible property
25:52while being integrated with real estate.
25:54There's a lot of ceiling light.
25:56Yes.
25:58Ah.
26:00It's Tomasson.
26:04Tomasson appears
26:06in the middle of a passage
26:08that goes up to the ground.
26:10What is this mysterious
26:12Tomasson that jumps out
26:14of the wall?
26:16I think it was this shape.
26:18Isn't there something protruding?
26:20Isn't there a continuation of this?
26:22I think so.
26:24I thought it was filled with statues.
26:26Ah.
26:28Like feet.
26:30It's filled with statues.
26:32This is Asakusa.
26:34It's like Kanameishi.
26:36That's possible.
26:38It's a religious building,
26:40so I think there's something
26:42that can't be moved.
26:44There's a barrier.
26:46It's like a barrier.
26:48I think it's a barrier.
26:50Barrier?
26:52What is the identity of this Tomasson?
26:54This rock
26:56is an old staircase.
26:58An old staircase?
27:00There used to be a souvenir shop
27:02on this rock.
27:04The end of this wall was
27:06a staircase that led to the shop.
27:08However, the souvenir shop
27:10closed down,
27:12so the staircase was demolished.
27:14However, it could have been demolished
27:16to make the road wider.
27:18However, if you cut this part,
27:20there is a pipe underneath.
27:22If you cut it,
27:24the pipe will be exposed.
27:26So, this was left as a pipe cover.
27:28This rock was cut
27:30at the last minute.
27:32I see.
27:34It was cut to this size.
27:36If it was a normal staircase,
27:38it would have been better.
27:40I don't know that.
27:42What's that face?
27:44What kind of expression is that?
27:46I don't know.
27:48Today's Tomasson.
27:50Next, we may visit
27:52Tomasson in your town.
27:54You'll get hurt.
27:56Stop it.
27:58Let's choose a topic.
28:00It's divided into 9 topics.
28:02Let's choose this one.
28:04Why can't people
28:06live without thinking?
28:08This is...
28:10I really want to go there.
28:12Over the past few years,
28:14there have been a lot of
28:16entertainment such as comics,
28:18dramas, anime, and novels.
28:20It's a popular topic on SNS.
28:22Let's think about
28:24why people like it so much.
28:26You are a person
28:28who thinks too much about comedy.
28:30Why am I doing it, too?
28:32Why am I doing it, too?
28:34Why am I doing it, too?
28:36I published a book about it.
28:38It's written here.
28:40Why am I doing it, too?
28:42Do you know why you are doing it?
28:44I don't know.
28:46Why am I doing it?
28:48Why is it so popular?
28:50It's very popular.
28:52I want everyone
28:54to think about it.
28:56That's a good idea.
28:58There are a lot of topics.
29:00Dramas.
29:02Dramas are easy to understand.
29:04Dramas and comics.
29:06Dramas and comics.
29:08One Piece.
29:10There are a lot of comments
29:12about the last episode.
29:14There are a lot of comments
29:16about the last episode.
29:18There are a lot of comments
29:20about the last episode.
29:22They even have comments
29:24about the episode
29:26where guard Tsuda
29:28was scattered.
29:30The episode was released
29:32in the mystery episode.
29:34They even had
29:36spoilers for the episode.
29:38So many people
29:40had ideas like this.
29:42So many people
29:44had ideas like this.
29:46So many people
29:48I did it! I did it!
29:50It's a conjecture! I did it! I did it!
29:52I like conjecture.
29:54I like it.
29:56Kouki Mitani, who made 13 of Kamakura Dono,
29:59didn't intend to make it a conjecture,
30:01but there was a conjecture on SNS every week,
30:03and he was surprised to hear that it was a plot.
30:07There is such a pattern.
30:08I'm sure there is an unintentional one.
30:10It may be the result of going too far.
30:12That's right.
30:13He saw it as a conjecture.
30:15He made a conjecture of nothing.
30:18It means that there are more people who want to sell their ideas.
30:20What's wrong with you?
30:22Don't stab me.
30:24It doesn't mean that there are more people who want to stand out
30:26when they say their ideas.
30:29Conjecture is a word that doesn't usually include
30:31your own opinion.
30:33That's right.
30:35It's based on facts,
30:37but it's obviously trying to make a different conjecture.
30:41That's right.
30:43It's a bit off.
30:45He found the corner of the box.
30:47That's right.
30:49Originally, it was the writer's idea.
30:51It's the same on Wednesday.
30:52It means that there is an answer.
30:53It's a conjecture to solve the problem.
30:55But there are a lot of ideas that aren't.
30:57There are ideas with impressions.
30:59These days,
31:01it's not just about enjoying the work,
31:05but by putting a conjecture on it,
31:07the reward for your impressions will increase.
31:11It's not just about impressions,
31:13but by putting a conjecture on it,
31:15I feel like it's a more fun experience.
31:17I want to be rewarded.
31:18I feel like the reward for my impressions will increase.
31:20I see.
31:21There's an answer.
31:23It was written in Miyake-san's book.
31:25It's difficult to express what you like.
31:28It's difficult to sympathize with each other's impressions.
31:32If you put a conjecture in the middle,
31:34it's easy to share.
31:36Rather than saying,
31:39It's better to say,
31:44It's a fact.
31:46It may not be a fact,
31:48but it's a sense of security that it's a fact.
31:51If you say,
31:53it's hard to be criticized.
31:57I see.
32:00I want to be rewarded.
32:02It's not just about reading my impressions.
32:04I want to be rewarded for being able to tell people.
32:06There's something called a hyper.
32:08I want to raise the hyper.
32:10If you don't get something,
32:12you won't be satisfied.
32:14If it was fun, you don't want to end it.
32:16In order to raise the hyper,
32:18you have to be optimistic.
32:20If there's nothing to gain at the end,
32:22you don't want to see it.
32:26There are times when YouTube thumbnails
32:28are optimistic.
32:30It's easy to see because it's optimistic.
32:32I see.
32:34That's exactly what Oshinoko said.
32:36That's right.
32:38We've been thinking about it so much.
32:40At the end,
32:42he said,
32:44I don't know.
32:46I said,
32:48I don't know.
32:50But in the first place,
32:52what made you think about it?
32:56I thought it was because
32:58I was on the side of someone
33:00who was watching a love reality show.
33:02From a love reality show?
33:04There's always someone you like.
33:06So, I was thinking about
33:08who I would date.
33:10I think you're thinking about
33:12what you're doing right now.
33:14I watched the drama in the same way.
33:16And there was a scene
33:18where you said,
33:20it's your turn.
33:22So, I was thinking about
33:24what I would do.
33:26I see.
33:28Before that,
33:30I was thinking about
33:32who would win the AKB election.
33:34I was thinking about it a lot.
33:36I think I'm feeling the same way
33:38when I watch dramas and anime.
33:40I'm calm when I watch idol dramas.
33:42Are you thinking about
33:44being an idol?
33:46I want to think about being an idol
33:48in a positive way,
33:50not just as a fan.
33:52I'm the only one who knows.
33:54I'm the only one who feels.
33:56It's like,
33:58I'm on the other side.
34:00You're on the other side.
34:02Some people say,
34:04it's not like this.
34:06Some people say,
34:08it doesn't matter what people think.
34:10I see.
34:12Some people say,
34:14it's not like this.
34:16Some people can't stand it.
34:18I see.
34:20I think it's similar.
34:22I see.
34:24Some people want to be
34:26the leader of AKB.
34:28I think so too.
34:30I agree with you.
34:32It's like being a fan.
34:34Being a fan is
34:36something I recommend.
34:38I have a feeling
34:40that I want to say something.
34:42It's like recommending someone.
34:44You're thinking a lot about marriage.
34:46You're very surprised.
34:48Really?
34:50I don't like it.
34:52That's why I get angry.
34:54But if a person who looks like he's going to stick to it is going to stick to it, it's going to feel like a congratulations.
34:59Even if it's an idol.
35:01That's just like a theory.
35:04So in the end, there's a lot of desire in that theory.
35:09I see.
35:10I want it to be like this.
35:12How far should we pay attention to what the actors and the people who write the work think?
35:18Should we not care at all?
35:20Should we care?
35:21But you know, manga artists tend to go in a different direction when it comes to thinking.
35:28Well, it works.
35:29It works.
35:30I see.
35:31I think we're all making that kind of work.
35:34That's right.
35:35That's why I was wondering why you were rejecting it.
35:37That's right.
35:38You were originally bent.
35:40I don't know how ONE PIECE will end.
35:42Everyone is worried.
35:44If you think about it, he's never finished a story.
35:47That's right.
35:48It's his first work.
35:50He hasn't done a long series either.
35:52Also, there aren't many manga that start with SNS in the middle.
35:55I see.
35:56It's been too long.
35:57He started to think about it in the middle.
35:59So there's a possibility that he's never finished a story.
36:02That's possible.
36:03What if he's in a hurry?
36:05That's bad.
36:06Isn't he in a hurry?
36:07Internet?
36:09He's writing a lot.
36:11He's writing more than 100 volumes.
36:13Internet?
36:14Thinking?
36:15That's right.
36:16When will he finish?
36:17He's looking at the Internet.
36:19That's bad.
36:20It's going to be hard for everyone to praise him.
36:24It's hard.
36:25Do you want to be a writer?
36:28Or do you want to influence the writer?
36:31I don't want to be a writer.
36:33There are people who want to be a writer.
36:35I'm sure there are people who want to be a writer.
36:37It's the same as a second-hand work.
36:40I see.
36:42Second-hand works don't pay for the first-hand work.
36:46Second-hand works pay for the first-hand work.
36:49I don't think it's a good idea to pay for the consideration.
36:52But...
36:53I think criticism is different from the writer's opinion.
36:57I think it's money because it's the reader's opinion.
37:00It's different.
37:02But the consideration may be the end.
37:05I think it's the writer's opinion.
37:08So I don't think it's a good idea to do business with it.
37:11It's not a good idea to do business with other people's money.
37:13That's right.
37:15I see.
37:16It's different from criticism.
37:18I think it's the reader's opinion.
37:20I think so, too.
37:21Words are not good.
37:22I think so, too.
37:24Words are cool.
37:25Words are cool.
37:26Words are cool.
37:27That's why it's popular.
37:28The book is too cool.
37:31The book is cool.
37:32That's the reason.
37:34The book is not cool.
37:36The book is too cool.
37:39I think so, too.
37:41I think so, too.
37:42I think so, too.
37:43I think so, too.
37:44I think so, too.
37:45I think so, too.
37:46I think so, too.
37:47I think so, too.
37:48I think so, too.
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38:00I think so, too.
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38:19I think so, too.
38:20I think so, too.
38:21I think so, too.
38:22I think so, too.
38:23I think so, too.
38:24I think so, too.
38:25I think so, too.
38:26I think so, too.
38:27I think so, too.
38:28I think so, too.
38:29I think so, too.
38:30I think so, too.
38:31I think so, too.
38:32I think so, too.
38:33I think so, too.
38:34I think so, too.
38:35I feel so cool when I see your face.
38:59But this, I just thought it can't be helped.
39:05It can't be helped.
39:07I know that.
39:09You can't say that.
39:11It can't be helped.
39:13We are upset.
39:15Before you were born, we went back in time.
39:20Now I understand.
39:22It's baseball.
39:24Baseball?
39:25In the past, there was a trend to sell a lot of baseball.
39:32I was shocked when I was a kid.
39:36ID baseball.
39:38At that time, I analyzed baseball as ID baseball.
39:44Until then, you took the data with glasses.
39:49At that time, everyone felt an allergy.
39:53It was like, stop it.
39:56Baseball is not like that.
39:59I think the time of baseball is 30 years from now.
40:05So, it can't be helped.
40:08I think the connection between baseball and manga is AKB.
40:13Mr. Akematsu of AKB said that he made AKB by imitating baseball.
40:23So, he made baseball in the countryside.
40:26He made a theater.
40:28He made a cheerleader.
40:31That's how AKB and Oshi culture was born.
40:35At the same time, baseball and idol culture were born.
40:39And Otaku culture was born.
40:43So, it's all connected.
40:46I thought you were going to embarrass me.
40:49No, no, no.
40:51You were allergic.
40:52Why?
40:53Why?
40:54Why?
40:55Because it's pale.
40:57Because it's pale.
40:59It's poisonous.
41:01It's an enemy.
41:03I think it's better for the creator to do it as if they were playing baseball.
41:07I've never heard of a baseball player changing the batting form because he was told to.
41:13No, no, no.
41:14I don't know what's going to happen.
41:16The story is like this.
41:17It's decided like this.
41:18It's interpreted like this.
41:19On the contrary, if the creator understands too much and doesn't narrow it down,
41:25I don't know what's going to happen.
41:26I don't know what kind of ball will be thrown.
41:28If the creator doesn't know what kind of batting form will be used,
41:31the story will continue.
41:33Maybe.
41:34Oda Ichiro said,
41:35I don't know what Luffy is going to do after this.
41:38He should have said that.
41:40But he said, he'll start moving on his own.
41:42It's amazing.
41:43It's not affected that such a person is doing well.
41:46It's like a sport.
41:48It's going on.
41:49I'm sure he's confident.
41:50By making people think,
41:52SNS buzzes,
41:53and you can watch more dramas and mangas.
41:56Yes, yes.
41:57What should I do to spread the work to the world in other ways?
42:02I see.
42:03Even if I don't make people think,
42:04I can make a good work.
42:07I see.
42:08But I dare to release a work that makes people think.
42:13I see.
42:14That's the main strategy.
42:15I might say something sad,
42:17but I might be parasitic.
42:19Parasitic?
42:20Parasitic?
42:21Japanese.
42:22Japanese?
42:23XO.
42:24Ah, XO.
42:25XO.
42:26A lot of people have XO.
42:27Yes.
42:28I'm going to take it up.
42:29You're going to take it up?
42:30Wow, this is...
42:31In the end, there will be something that will get through it.
42:35But...
42:36In the end, everyone will do it in Loft Plus version.
42:39At the end, it will be there.
42:41But there, a new power will be born.
42:45Ah, that one?
42:46Yes.
42:47Then, is there any other way?
42:49It's the opposite.
42:50It's the opposite.
42:51If everyone does what everyone thinks,
42:54it will be really boring.
42:56That's true.
42:57But that's what I thought when I wrote the book.
42:59About comedy.
43:00I put out all the conclusions.
43:03I see.
43:04Only about M-1.
43:05And it's a book that I won't quit.
43:07At the end.
43:08And I want people to imitate my book.
43:11People who read my book.
43:13People who want to be like that.
43:15I want people to say,
43:17I saw it in a car book.
43:19I see.
43:20I want people to say,
43:21I saw it in a car book.
43:22I want people to say,
43:23I saw it in a car book.
43:24I want people to say,
43:25I saw it in a car book.
43:26I want people to say,
43:27I saw it in a car book.
43:28I want people to say,
43:29I saw it in a car book.
43:30I want people to say,
43:31I saw it in a car book.
43:32I want people to say,
43:33I saw it in a car book.
43:34I want people to say,
43:35I saw it in a car book.
43:36I want people to say,
43:37I saw it in a car book.
43:38I want people to say,
43:39I saw it in a car book.
43:40I want people to say,
43:41I saw it in a car book.
43:42I want people to say,
43:43I saw it in a car book.
43:45In summary,
43:46It is the law of other worlds,
43:47I see.
43:48When the law of other worlds
43:49comes into being,
43:50I see.
43:51we have to end
43:52one by one.
43:53That's right.
43:54We should end everything.
43:55Yes.
43:55If we win the M-1
43:57in the year 2024,
43:58we have to end it
43:59in a second.
44:00It doesn't have to be long.
44:01When we win,
44:02We have to end it
44:03in a second.
44:04It doesn't have to be long.
44:05We have to end it
44:06in a second.
44:07There could be no such thing.
44:08If you're talking about this,
44:09do you want to finish the analysis?
44:12That's why I'm trying to make the most of it.
44:16So you're trying to make it end, but you're halfway there.
44:18That's what's not good about this.
44:20The producers are a little influenced.
44:22On the contrary, people who want to enjoy it honestly
44:24I wonder if it's better to think about it.
44:26The other people who are thinking about it
44:28It's a situation where it's noisy.
44:30That's when it's the most stressful.
44:32There are people who think about it as a matter of course.
44:34Oh, this person is the one who thinks about it.
44:36I don't do it.
44:37The one who's watching is fine.
44:38And the one who's doing it.
44:39Oh, this is going to be considered.
44:41I've come to a healthy state that I remember.
44:43But right before you get to the happy end.
44:46There's always a time when it's super boring to laugh.
44:49That's what happens for a moment.
44:51It's too scary.
44:53I don't have any money.
44:55There's a little bit of a zone where it's like, which one is it?
44:58That's the M1 of 2024.
45:01If we can win the championship.
45:03In an instant.
45:04You can go.
45:06You can't tell.
45:08If it's M1, it's going to be really bad.
45:11I see.
45:12It's because laughter is so popular right now.
45:14You can hit a punch that makes you weak.
45:16You're too ambitious.
45:18You think that far?
45:20If you're weak, I'll finish you off.
45:22I'll finish you off.
45:23It's now.
45:24There's only a chance now.
45:25There's no choice but to win.
45:26There's only a chance now.
45:27I want you to win.
45:29It's supposed to be a disaster.
45:31That's right.
45:32If you win, it's supposed to be a disaster.
45:34There's no one who made it a disaster, right?
45:37That's right.
45:38It's just a drama.
45:39But now, I can stand it.
45:41It's a cheerful thing.
45:43I'm energetic now, so I can stand it.
45:44I have money.
45:45Then I'll leave it to you.
45:46It's about time.
45:47Did you say too much?
45:48What are you doing?
45:49No, no, no.
45:50I was a little surprised at first, but Miyake's eyes are a little...
45:55I think I'm going to like it.
45:56I don't know what you mean.
45:57There's a small part.
45:58I don't know what you mean.
45:59Nagano-san, there's this part.
46:01I can't speak.
46:02I was surprised, but I wanted to say something.
46:04Miyake-san is laughing without any reaction.
46:06When I think of Miyake-san, I'm a little nervous.
46:09I was born in the 80s.
46:12I was born in 1994.
46:13I'm sorry.
46:14I'm going home.
46:15Please go home.
46:16It's like asking for the name of the person below.
46:17It's like asking for the name of the person below.
46:18It's like asking for the name of the person below.
46:19What kind of weapon is that?
46:20I'm scared.
46:21There's a moment like that.
46:22Even for Mitani.
46:23Then, can you summarize why you can't stay without thinking?
46:27Summary?
46:28Why can't you stay without thinking?
46:30Oh, that's right.
46:31Why is that?
46:34There's something that's popular, and if you try to say what you like about it,
46:39it's the coolest way to say what you like about it.
46:46Because it's cool.
46:48Because it's cool.
46:49That's true.
46:50I'll do it.
46:51There's no risk.
46:52It can't be helped.
46:53It can't be helped.
46:54There's no need to stop it.
46:55Because Satsu is too cool.
46:57Because Satsu is cool.
46:58Because Satsu is cool.