Imran Khan Ki Rihai Kay Liye US Ka Pressure? - Experts' Analysis

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00:00Now, Mr. Afaaz, I will come to my next question from here, I will ask you the next question first.

00:03As a result of American pressure or any other factor,

00:06Mr. Imran Khan's release from jail this whole year,

00:10what percentage do you think is the probability of this?

00:14Look, in light of the last press conference of DGI SPR,

00:19it has become absolutely clear that we are not seeing any hesitation from there.

00:23And the way in which the establishment and Mr. Khan have come together,

00:28whether it is through negotiations with the government or not,

00:32we are not seeing any hesitation.

00:33So, in my opinion, Mr. Faiz Hameed's trial in the military courts,

00:38until the case of May 9th does not reach a logical conclusion with respect to Mr. Faiz Hameed

00:43and related to Mr. Imran Khan,

00:45till then I do not see any such way that Mr. Khan comes out in any way.

00:52When these decisions will come,

00:54then it will be clear whether they have involved Mr. Khan in it or not.

00:59If not, and if the government backs away from trying him in military courts,

01:03then in my opinion, it is possible that there may be a way out.

01:08But I do not see such a thing happening in the short term.

01:12So, as we speak, do you think that there is no chance that he will come out of jail this year?

01:19I will not be able to say the whole year,

01:21but I will say that in the near future,

01:23that is, in the next 2-4 months, I do not know.

01:26Mr. Malik?

01:30Look, our politics is very trigger-based politics.

01:36Many events trigger things.

01:38Right.

01:39As I said earlier,

01:41this trial of Mr. Imran Khan can be seen,

01:44it is written on the wall that he will do it

01:46unless there is a strong American involvement.

01:49If Imran Khan's military trial takes place,

01:51then the punishment is also certain.

01:53And if the punishment is given,

01:55then what can be the trigger of a new movement?

01:59Because there are no such events at the moment.

02:01Right.

02:02So, that will be an interesting point to see.

02:06Apart from that, one thing is very clear to me.

02:10Look, as long as the existing military leadership exists,

02:13I do not see any kind of turbulence.

02:17There is also the Guardian Naught.

02:19Now, if two children fight,

02:22if two strong people fight,

02:24then a third person has to enter the fight and be released.

02:28Yes.

02:29If someone releases him, let him be released.

02:31These two people are not going to step back one step.

02:35So, I see a very bad lock-jam.

02:39And that is why the American angle is very important.

02:42It is possible that where they are talking about reconciliation,

02:45about salvation,

02:46a compromise may develop there.

02:48In which, again, like Mian Sahib was involved,

02:52Saudi Arabia, America, Israel should also be involved.

02:55And a compromise solution should come out a little.

02:58Otherwise, I see strictness increasing.

03:01And Mr. Malik, I will try not to deviate from the topic,

03:05but I will still ask this question quickly.

03:07This is also how we differentiate

03:10from the past scenario.

03:12When people say,

03:13Oh, look, Mian Sahib and Bajaj Sahib were also involved.

03:15Look, then the whole matter was settled.

03:17So, is this an insult that the matter has gone too far here?

03:20Look, look at Mr. Khan.

03:21Mr. Khan also had a double whammy.

03:24The Chief Justice became the one whom he had talked about releasing.

03:28He became the Chief Justice.

03:30The one whom he fired from a critical job

03:34and then he also talked about not becoming the Chief.

03:37He became the Army Chief.

03:39So, this is how a person's circle of circumstances works.

03:44Now, in my opinion, the mistrust,

03:48when you talk to people in institutions,

03:50Waseem categorically says that

03:53we have seen it by doing work.

03:55When I talk,

03:56that man, there is so much mistrust.

03:58Why can't people talk to each other?

04:00He says, we know better than you.

04:03We have seen it by doing work.

04:05So, don't tell us what mistrust is and how to trust.

04:08So, the answer of the question is,

04:10you will be very surprised.

04:12If there is a big unusual event, it is a different matter.

04:14Otherwise, in today's date,

04:15you have a 100% chance that

04:17he may not be able to come out of jail this year.

04:19Am I right, Mr. Malik?

04:20If something big happens, it will happen.

04:22Otherwise, I don't think he will come out.

04:24So, Mr. Lodhai,

04:25Mr. Khan's coming out of jail.

04:27How less is the possibility of this in 2025?

04:30I think that

04:32there is a 40% chance

04:36that he will come out.

04:38But there is only one condition for that.

04:40That he should accept the establishment's decision

04:43that I will sit at home quietly

04:46and he should accept this government and this system.

04:50So, this means that

04:51my next innocent question is that

04:53you think that 40% chance

04:55that he will let this system run

04:57and will accept this government.

05:00Yes, yes.

05:02And isn't this against his temperament?

05:23Okay.

05:24The next question is that

05:25suppose he agrees to this

05:27and he also assures this.

05:29The deficit, the trust deficit

05:31which Mr. Malik was also talking about.

05:33Won't he have a problem

05:34that no one will be ready to believe him?

05:36Everyone will think that

05:37if there is a little space here,

05:39then the road will heat up again

05:41and then the whole system will shake.

05:44I think he will ensure it.

05:46Because there is definitely a trust deficit.

05:49And he will ensure that

05:51Mr. Imran Khan does not go against it.

05:53And if he does go against it,

05:55then he will make some arrangement

05:57and we will see what will happen as a result.

06:01And usually,

06:02obviously, Pakistan has a long history.

06:04So, usually,

06:05when there is a trust deficit on this level,

06:07then only an international guarantor

06:09can be used.

06:10Only an international guarantor can be used.

06:13It is not in Pakistan.

06:14As you know,

06:15in Saudi Arabia,

06:16there was also a guarantor

06:18in the 70-year election agreement

06:20of the National Unity.

06:22Mr. Riaz-ul-Khatib used to be the speaker.

06:25When Nawaz Sharif went abroad,

06:27there was also a guarantor in Saudi Arabia.

06:30When Respected Benazir Bhutto came back,

06:32the United States and Britain were guarantors.

06:35The UAE was also a guarantor.

06:37Then when Nawaz Sharif returned from Jeddah,

06:40Saudi Arabia was still a guarantor.

06:43So, these things continue to happen in our country.

06:46But the question is that

06:48both of them,

06:50Respected Benazir Bhutto,

06:52and Mr. Riaz-ul-Khatib,

06:54were very close to Western countries.

06:56That is why they were involved.

06:58The UAE was also involved.

07:00Mr. Nawaz Sharif had very good relations

07:02with Saudi Arabia.

07:04He had very good relations with the people of Lebanon.

07:06That is why they were involved.

07:08Mr. Imran Khan's associates

07:10had very good relations with Trump.

07:12But I think that

07:14Mr. Imran Khan had no direct relations

07:16with any Arab country,

07:18nor with any Western country.

07:20The allies of the PTI there

07:22certainly had good relations with President Trump.

07:24And they will try to

07:26make him lose weight.

07:28But I am telling them that

07:30this is a two-edged sword.

07:32It can be beneficial or harmful.

07:34Right. So you said,

07:36let's go Mr. Imran Khan.

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