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00:00This program is brought to you by DAREGA KAITON NEN, the book that changed the world in two days.
00:16So, which one are we going to start with today?
00:18This time, we are going to start with the book by Mr. Shobo Rokuichi in Jinbochou, Tokyo.
00:22Oh, Jinbochou.
00:23It's a nice place.
00:25It's like Jinbochou, right?
00:27This is a bookstore specializing in history and archaeology.
00:32They not only sell books, but also publish them.
00:35Publish them?
00:36That's rare.
00:37So, it's like a self-published book?
00:39That's right.
00:40So, a bookstore is built here?
00:41Yes.
00:42About 200,000 books are stored here.
00:45I see.
00:46They also sell stationery, hand-woven clothes, and tableware.
00:51I'm from Sakai, Osaka.
00:55I'm familiar with this place.
00:57It's called Zenpou Kouen-kun.
00:59What's on the right?
01:01On the right...
01:02There are a lot of those around Zenpou Kouen-kun.
01:09Isn't that a permanent badge?
01:11It's a permanent badge.
01:13Let's move on to the next one.
01:15Oh, nice.
01:16I can't get enough of this.
01:18That's true.
01:19This is cute.
01:20I think girls would like this too.
01:23It's nice.
01:24They don't make these goods.
01:28Instead, they sell what's left from the museum.
01:32What do you mean?
01:33They don't make these?
01:35No, they don't.
01:36They sell them?
01:38Of course, they sell them.
01:40They don't sell them at a high price.
01:41It's an interesting bookstore.
01:43I agree.
01:44It's interesting.
01:45Let's move on to this week's book.
01:47Oh, no.
01:48There's a connection.
01:50The story of a high school student being scared.
01:52Is this a self-published book?
01:54No, it's not.
01:56It's from a popular book store.
01:58Oh, it's from a popular book store.
01:59It's not from that book store.
02:01It's not from that book store.
02:02But it's related.
02:04It's a story of a high school student being scared while working or living abroad.
02:11I see.
02:12In our time, Sakuji Yoshimura was famous.
02:17I didn't know how much money he earned.
02:22I didn't know how he earned money.
02:27I didn't know if I could get money if I found something.
02:29I'm curious about many things.
02:31Let's move on to the next topic.
02:33I'm Kishinori Oshiro from Komazawa.
02:35Nice to meet you.
02:37Mr. Oshiro.
02:38I teach archaeology and history at Komazawa.
02:42I specialize in ancient Egyptian history.
02:45When you talk about archaeology, you think of Egypt, right?
02:48I don't think so.
02:49Egypt is a flower-shaped country.
02:52That's right.
02:53Many archaeologists around the world want to excavate Egypt.
02:56I see.
02:57Egypt has the most history.
03:00I think that's one of the reasons.
03:02It's easy to understand.
03:03There are pyramids, pyramids, and stonemasons.
03:07I see.
03:08Do you learn archaeology while teaching?
03:11Yes, I do.
03:12I excavate Egypt.
03:15Did you write this book with three people?
03:17Yes, I did.
03:18Did you write this book with three archaeologists?
03:21That's right.
03:22It's a great book.
03:26It's sold well.
03:27It's sold well.
03:30How did you get into Egypt?
03:33Well, there are many reasons.
03:36My father was a gold digger.
03:40He was a gold digger.
03:41He was on a TV show at that time.
03:44Tokugawa gold digger.
03:45I'm from Osaka, Kanazawa.
03:49I've been to places like Toyotomi Hideyoshi.
03:52Is there a gold digger in Toyotomi Hideyoshi?
03:54I was told there was one.
03:55If I find it, I won't be here.
03:57I was told there was one.
03:59I was told to come here on weekends.
04:02I was taken to the mountains by car.
04:05Did you go to find a gold digger?
04:07In a sense, yes.
04:08When I was in high school, I was looking for a place where I could be a gold digger.
04:11I went into a cave and did whatever I wanted.
04:13With your parents?
04:14Just the two of us.
04:16You were aiming for a gold digger.
04:18I was looking for a gold digger.
04:19I was looking for a gold digger.
04:20Dowsing?
04:21What?
04:22I didn't do dowsing.
04:23You didn't do dowsing.
04:24I didn't dig there.
04:25I remember looking for a gold digger and walking.
04:28Have you ever found one?
04:29I can't say that.
04:30I can't say that.
04:31You can't say that?
04:32You can't say that?
04:33I can't say that.
04:34You can't say that.
04:35That's the best way to escape.
04:37That's the best way to escape.
04:39You can't say that.
04:40You can't say that.
04:41It's like you're being strangled.
04:43You can't say that if you're a gold digger.
04:46Did you go to university after that?
04:48That's right.
04:49I'm Egyptian, so I went to a teacher in the Egyptian city.
04:52I went to Kansai University.
04:54There was an Egyptian teacher there.
04:56Is that a little inferior to Mr. Yoshimura?
04:59No, it's the opposite.
05:01That's amazing.
05:02It's the opposite.
05:03That's amazing.
05:04That's amazing.
05:05It was like a teacher.
05:08You said it clearly.
05:09It's a teacher.
05:10He said that.
05:11I knew Mr. Yoshimura was an icon.
05:15That's right.
05:16That's right.
05:17He said it very clearly.
05:18He's a great icon.
05:19We were so blessed.
05:21We got a job because of him.
05:23His profession is in economics.
05:26Especially in Egypt.
05:27I'm still doing it.
05:28I met him in May of this year.
05:30He is still doing well and doing his best.
05:34My sensei is a very knowledgeable person.
05:36Yes, yes, yes.
05:38No, no, no. It's hard to talk about.
05:40Well, well, well. We're not acquaintances, so it's fine.
05:42So, what kind of job do most people get from there?
05:46In Japan, you get a job at a cultural heritage center.
05:50Cultural heritage? What?
05:51A cultural heritage center.
05:52A cultural heritage center?
05:53There are a lot of cultural heritage centers in Shichoso, Japan.
05:55Oh, I see.
05:56If you excavate it, you'll find it.
05:58Oh, it's a research center, right?
05:59It's both a research center and an excavation center.
06:01So that's your job?
06:02It is.
06:03Most people get a job at a cultural heritage center.
06:05We don't have a job in Egypt.
06:07Oh, really?
06:08If it's something related to Japan, we do.
06:10If you want to get a job, you need to be able to read and write.
06:13You don't need to be able to read and write in Egypt.
06:16Oh, I see. You don't have an Egyptian document.
06:18No, we don't. It doesn't come out.
06:19So what do you do?
06:20You have to go to college.
06:22Oh, so you go to the U.S.A.L. side.
06:24That's right.
06:25It's a very small country, but it's very lucrative.
06:29You've been to Egypt many times.
06:31Yes, I have.
06:32Do you get your money from college?
06:34It depends. I don't get a lot of money from college.
06:36I get money from the government.
06:38In the case of the U.S.A.L., there's a lot of TV and media.
06:41So I got a lot of money from that.
06:43It was a good time.
06:44Oh, I see. The TV was pretty rich.
06:46It was the bubble era.
06:47It was a good time to go to Egypt.
06:49No, it wasn't.
06:50It wasn't?
06:51Yes.
06:52It was quite difficult.
06:54Do you make a lot of money?
06:55I don't make a lot of money.
06:56You don't?
06:59I don't make a lot of money.
07:01I'm just a salaryman.
07:04That's how much I get paid.
07:06And I have a lot of money.
07:08I have a lot of books.
07:10It's a good thing.
07:12It's a good thing.
07:14By the way, how many books do you have?
07:16I have about 20 books.
07:19What?
07:20That's amazing.
07:21I have about 10 books.
07:23You don't make a lot of money.
07:25You're desperate.
07:26You don't publish books.
07:28That's right.
07:29I only have 30,000 yen from my wife.
07:33I don't know.
07:34I don't know.
07:35I don't know.
07:36How can I appeal to my wife?
07:38How can I appeal to my wife?
07:40All high school students are like that.
07:42That's right.
07:43That's why I have to work part-time.
07:45You don't have to work part-time.
07:48You don't have to work part-time for high school.
07:51That's how hard it is.
07:53How many times have you been to Egypt?
07:56I don't know. Maybe 20 or 30 times.
07:58That's amazing.
07:59You take good pictures around the pyramids.
08:03But there's a McDonald's right next to it.
08:05Yes, there is.
08:08It's a tourist attraction.
08:09It's a tourist attraction.
08:10It's less than 100 meters from Sphinx.
08:12It's already like that.
08:14For people who take pictures of Egypt,
08:16pyramids and Sphinx are not a big deal, right?
08:19No, there is pride.
08:21It's our culture.
08:23It's absolutely there.
08:24I don't know.
08:25It's there, but you don't have to go to McDonald's or the police station.
08:29That's right.
08:30The pyramids are separated by a wall.
08:33It's outside the wall.
08:35There's no stall inside.
08:37It's outside.
08:39I see.
08:41It's a theme park.
08:43Do you have a theme every time you go there?
08:46Like, I'm going to look into this.
08:47Of course.
08:48Which one was the most interesting?
08:50It's interesting to explore.
08:52There are a lot of things.
08:54Can I touch it?
08:56If you have permission.
08:57Where can I get permission?
08:58You can get permission from Egypt's police station.
09:02And you can get permission from the army.
09:04You can't dig it unless you have these three.
09:06I see.
09:07It's hard.
09:08You have to have a clear background.
09:09That's right.
09:10That's why the university professors are strong.
09:12They teach you.
09:13Because they know it well.
09:14They have a clear background.
09:15Speaking of pyramids,
09:18many high school students go there.
09:20They look into many things.
09:22What do they do?
09:24They don't come out anymore.
09:25They don't say,
09:26it's okay.
09:27They haven't dug it yet.
09:28What?
09:29They haven't dug it yet.
09:30I see.
09:31About 70% of them don't know.
09:32Only 30% of them don't know.
09:34Why is that?
09:35Why?
09:36It's better to do it right away.
09:38It costs money.
09:39I see.
09:40It's not that easy.
09:41For example,
09:42if you clean a grave,
09:44it costs about 5 million yen.
09:46What?
09:47It's a lot of sand.
09:49That's where you start.
09:51So you haven't found it yet?
09:53Not yet.
09:54I see.
09:55Because Egypt is full of ruins.
09:57I see.
09:58If you think about it,
09:59there are no pyramids.
10:00How many pyramids do we have?
10:04About 90.
10:05I see.
10:06They are different in size.
10:08Some of them don't have the top part.
10:10Did you dig it yourself?
10:12Yes, I did.
10:13Did you discover it?
10:16I did, but I can't tell you.
10:17Why?
10:18Because I don't have a factory.
10:19What?
10:20I don't have a factory.
10:21You don't have one yet?
10:22No, I don't.
10:23Why not?
10:24I don't have time.
10:25You don't have time?
10:26I'm busy.
10:27I usually have classes.
10:29I have 10 classes a week.
10:31Oh, you're busy.
10:32And my biggest title is
10:35the president of the soccer club in Komazawa.
10:37What?
10:38Soccer club?
10:39I'm the president of the soccer club.
10:40No way.
10:41I'm very busy.
10:42The president is...
10:43The president is...
10:44The president is...
10:45When people gather,
10:46he just says a lot of things.
10:48He says good things.
10:49He says,
10:50good luck,
10:51you won,
10:52you lost,
10:53comfort them.
10:54That's what he does.
10:55You shouldn't leave it to someone else.
10:58No, no.
10:59He's a very strict person.
11:01He's the president of the soccer club.
11:03The president of the soccer club?
11:05He's just strict.
11:06Does he have a manager?
11:08No, he doesn't.
11:09He just goes out.
11:10So, he's not able to announce his future plans?
11:14He's busy, that's all.
11:16No, no.
11:18I wish he invited the other two.
11:21The other two are not the president.
11:23He's not the president.
11:25The other two are not the president.
11:27The other two are not the president.
11:30I'm sure this title is a little scary.
11:34In a way,
11:35it's a little scary,
11:37but I'm still alive.
11:39I want to hear that story.
11:41It's a scary story.
11:42Please listen to it.
11:43I'm still alive.
11:44There are a lot of stories.
11:46Yes, there are.
11:47It's an experience.
11:48The three brothers' human bones.
11:50Is it scary?
11:51It's not that scary.
11:53What do you mean, it's not that scary?
11:55You shouldn't publish a book that's not scary.
11:57With this title.
11:58The three brothers' human bones.
12:00Are you going to do that?
12:01Yes.
12:02Which one are you confident in?
12:05I'm confident in any of them.
12:07You can't even deliver that luggage.
12:11It's just an airport trouble.
12:13That's not true.
12:15That's not true.
12:16The three brothers' human bones.
12:19This is a national treasure.
12:21When I was young,
12:23I did a research on these ruins.
12:25I found it.
12:27I found it in a grave in the basement.
12:29This is the image.
12:31This is the image.
12:33I can't show you properly.
12:35I can't show you.
12:36First of all, it's an image of a dead body.
12:39I went into such a place and did a research.
12:41One day, I went into a place like this.
12:44I went into a place like this.
12:46I went into a place like this.
12:48I was digging in that image.
12:50Human bones came out.
12:52White things came out.
12:53Is that normal?
12:54I'm digging a grave.
12:55I don't want you to come out.
12:57It's a hassle.
12:58It's a hassle.
12:59After that, I have to clean it all up.
13:01After that, I have to clean it all up.
13:03You don't have to take responsibility for that.
13:05That's a huge trash.
13:08At first, it wasn't serious, it was a lie.
13:10When you start digging,
13:12When you start digging,
13:14you'll start digging with human bones.
13:16You're digging while expecting them to come out.
13:18When you start digging,
13:20you'll start digging with human bones.
13:22That's a hassle.
13:23You can't do that.
13:25You can't do that as the wife of your parents.
13:27It's impossible to do that.
13:29You can only do it if you have the power of a researcher.
13:30Human bones came out.
13:32I was digging like this.
13:34I dug it out and thought, oh, there it is.
13:36But when I looked at it again,
13:38there it was again.
13:40It was white again.
13:42And when I dug a little more,
13:44there it was again.
13:46So there were three of them.
13:48It's rare to see three of them.
13:50Yes, it's rare.
13:52And it looked like the neck and the torso were apart.
13:54In ancient times,
13:56not only in Egypt and Syria,
13:58they would cut off the neck
14:00to prevent them from coming back to life.
14:02Oh, I see.
14:04They would cut off the legs and arms.
14:06That's what I thought.
14:08So on that day,
14:10I went home from work.
14:12And I had a dream at night.
14:14It was a battle scene.
14:16Everyone was fighting.
14:18Like a war?
14:20Yes, like a war.
14:22There was smoke and fire.
14:24And people were running towards me.
14:26I was looking at them.
14:28You were looking at them.
14:30I was looking at them.
14:32And I saw them cut off my neck.
14:34Your teacher?
14:36No, in front of me.
14:38And I collapsed.
14:40And I woke up.
14:42You don't hate it, do you?
14:44It's a scary dream story.
14:46I was dead.
14:48And?
14:50And that was the end.
14:52How did you know it was the three brothers?
14:54I saw three of them.
14:56In your dream?
14:58Three of them were killed.
15:00So I thought
15:02there was a possibility.
15:04You should invite
15:06the other two.
15:08One of them
15:10might not be in Japan right now.
15:12You're the only one who's free today.
15:14I'm the only one who's free.
15:16I see.
15:18It's not a mistake.
15:20It's a big deal.
15:24One of my friends
15:26works at a ham company.
15:28A ham company?
15:30He's a salesman at a ham company.
15:32He sent me a ham or sausage
15:34that was about to expire.
15:36I was a college student.
15:38When I went to investigate,
15:40he sent me a big cardboard box
15:42with a ham sausage.
15:44He sent it to me.
15:46But
15:48it didn't arrive.
15:50It has nothing to do with high school.
15:52Hey.
15:54What is high school?
15:58You didn't think it was a ham, did you?
16:00No.
16:02You didn't think your luggage would arrive.
16:04Why didn't it arrive?
16:06It happens a lot.
16:08You can open it.
16:10It happens a lot.
16:12But this time,
16:14a year later, when I went to investigate,
16:16it arrived.
16:18A year later.
16:20It's sold well.
16:22It's sold well.
16:24It's sold well.
16:28It's a toilet.
16:30Is it a toilet?
16:32It's an ancient Egyptian toilet.
16:34It's a recent toilet.
16:36It's like this.
16:38It's like a private toilet.
16:40We flush the toilet.
16:42But in Egypt and other countries,
16:44they don't flush the toilet.
16:46They flush the water.
16:48I forgot to flush the toilet.
16:50So, I flushed the toilet.
16:52The hotel was flooded.
16:54It's a story about a year ago.
16:56It's a story about a year ago.
16:58It's a story about a year ago.
17:00The smell at that time
17:02was like the smell
17:04of a new mirror.
17:06I can feel it.
17:08You put your poop and mirror together.
17:10It's just the smell of sewage.
17:12It was written in a book.
17:14It was written in a book.
17:16It was written in a book.
17:18I see.
17:20Do you want to go to Omiya?
17:22We still have time.
17:24We still have time.
17:30You go to Omiya
17:32for 3 months
17:34to explore.
17:36How much does it cost?
17:38It's about 500,000 yen per person
17:40for a month.
17:42It's cheap.
17:44It's not expensive.
17:46It's not expensive.
17:48It's like that.
17:50In your case,
17:52you graduated from a university.
17:54Do you have to find something
17:56after visiting Omiya?
17:58Of course, I do.
18:00Do you feel the pressure?
18:02I'm looking forward to it.
18:04I don't feel any pressure.
18:06I can't help it.
18:08I'm looking forward to it.
18:10Do you feel like
18:12you have to find something?
18:14Of course, I do.
18:16After visiting Omiya for 3 months.
18:18I'm not sure if I will find something
18:20after visiting it for 3 months.
18:22There was a research in Italy
18:24which showed that
18:26there is a gate in that place
18:28for 2000 years.
18:30In ancient cities,
18:32people built a wall
18:34and built a gate.
18:36A gate has a map
18:38with one place that hasn't been explored yet.
18:40It's been on the map for 2,000 years, so I dug it up.
18:43I dug it up for about 10 years, but it wasn't there.
18:46What? What's that?
18:49I still don't know why.
18:51What did you say when you searched for 10 years and it wasn't there?
18:53I'm glad it wasn't there.
18:55You're glad it wasn't there?
18:56Because I knew it wasn't there.
18:59That's how you found it?
19:00I see.
19:01Because everyone thought it was there for 2,000 years.
19:03It was written on the map and in the book, but it wasn't there.
19:06It's a nuisance, right?
19:07Yeah, it's a nuisance.
19:09So you published it?
19:09Yeah, I did.
19:10But it was a good academic result.
19:11What's the sense of accomplishment when it's not there?
19:15It wasn't there!
19:16I don't know.
19:16It's a big discovery!
19:17If we had this mindset, we could have become archaeologists.
19:21Yeah, it's not there.
19:22Let's go look for Tokugawa's buried gold.
19:24It says it's here.
19:26Let's look for it.
19:27It's not there.
19:30Everyone, it's not here.
19:32It's a great job.
19:34Looking for something that's not there.
19:35You can feel the sense of accomplishment even if it's not there, right?
19:39It's my first time feeling it.
19:41It's interesting, isn't it?
19:42We, who were looking for the teacher, were a little sloppy.
19:46There's nothing sloppy about it.
19:48Is there such a thing as a high school student?
19:50It's just me, isn't it?
19:51It doesn't matter to others.
19:52Then ask someone else!
19:54Ask someone else.
19:54Then ask the other two!
19:59What do you want to convey in this book?
20:01It's difficult.
20:03Well, I want you to read it.
20:06At first, I want young people to read it.
20:10People who are lost.
20:11I want you to think about it a little bit.
20:13High school.
20:13High school is a subject.
20:16In the end, it's okay even if it doesn't come out.
20:20That's learning.
20:21That's good, isn't it?
20:24It's okay even if it doesn't come out.
20:27That's the best mindset.
20:29That's good.
20:32That's true.
20:32We're not investigating.
20:34That's what it is, isn't it?
20:36It's not a talk show.
20:37It's not a treasure hunter.
20:39I want you to understand that.
20:41Tell the truth.
20:42That's right.
20:43I'm going to tell you the truth.
20:45That's what I'm confessing.
20:46That's what it is, isn't it?
20:49Yes.
20:50After listening to the teacher's story, I thought of this book.
20:54There are 246 pages in this book.
20:57Please skip the 82 pages of one-third of them.
21:01The teacher's part?
21:03Morita, what do you think?
21:05I heard you were a great teacher.
21:07It wasn't great.
21:09But that's good.
21:10It wasn't great.
21:12It's good to know that.
21:16I know it's not great.
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