👉 Bárzola estaba realizando tareas de pulido en los pisos de la casa de la familia Dalmasso. Durante el juicio había dado declaraciones a la prensa donde daba detalles sobre sus tareas. Se espera más información del Ministerio Público Fiscal de Córdoba y del Centro de Genética Forense.
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00:00Almaso and Marcelo Macarrón?
00:02No, no, nothing.
00:03Nothing, because I never saw anything.
00:06Is it true that your boss told you that
00:09they thought that the journalists were at home that Sunday
00:13because Macarrón had won a golf tournament?
00:16Yes, yes.
00:18Are you following the trial?
00:20No, no, I work in the field, so I don't know.
00:24How many workers were working at Almaso's house?
00:26It was like this in the morning.
00:28Did the police interrogate you?
00:30They came to your house, they called you on the phone.
00:32Were you afraid of having some kind of accusation against you, for example?
00:37No, no.
00:38Were you calm?
00:39Calm, yes.
00:40Sometimes a little nervous, but...
00:42But did you think about it?
00:43Because that's how a painter was impeached.
00:45Yes, but no.
00:46I was always calm because I knew I hadn't done anything.
00:49Did they make a single search of your house?
00:51Yes, a single search.
00:52And what were they looking for?
00:54A phone.
00:55Did the police ever press you to testify?
00:57No, no, it was normal.
00:58I mean, no pressure, but yes, yes.
01:02That Saturday, how long did you have to wait for González?
01:05Ten minutes.
01:06Did you ring the doorbell at any time?
01:08No, I didn't want to be late.
01:11So you waited at the door of the house for a few minutes and then you left.
01:15Yes.
01:16Did you declare that you rang the doorbell to meet with your boss?
01:19Of course.
01:20Yes.
01:21As if there was no one.
01:23I already had half the day paid.
01:25Were you surprised that they impeached a painter, in this case Gastón Sarte?
01:29The truth is that I don't know, because I didn't know if I knew him at the time I was there.
01:34I never wanted to know either.
01:37Did you have to go back to work at the house later?
01:39Yes.
01:40Yes, we came back later.
01:41And how was that moment?
01:43Normal, normal work.
01:45When and how did you find out about Nora's crime?
01:48My boss told me.
01:49What was Nora like?
01:51No, I don't know.
01:52I saw her once there.
01:53But how did she treat you?
01:55She didn't treat us.
01:57My boss always talked to Marcelo.
02:00Only that time she blamed you for the dust.
02:02For the dust, yes.
02:04But nothing else.
02:05But she told you well.
02:06Yes, yes, because there was no other way to do it.
02:10But nothing else.
02:14Well, thank you very much.
02:15The floor cleaner ends up being pointed out by the prosecutor, the sixth in the case,
02:20as the alleged murderer, El Barbijo,
02:23to remind us that once the world was in a pandemic,
02:27a cold look and an explanation,
02:31if you want, convincing on the part of this man
02:34who declared the cause six times as a witness.
02:38There is only one thing that Bárcola never denied,
02:42which is that he was at the door of the house on November 25th.
02:46In fact, now we can say that he was not at the door,
02:50but that he was inside.
02:53But of course, one finds it incredible in these times
02:56where everything is recorded in security cameras.
02:58But it was in 2006.
03:00Technology has advanced a lot.
03:02Although there was already technology, of course,
03:05of security cameras, the ones they usually have,
03:08he never denied going that day.
03:11But he said that he had been in the house,
03:13that he rang the bell, that there was no one,
03:15that he waited 15, 10 minutes,
03:17that he already had paid for the work day,
03:19because the employer or the man who had called him,
03:23the boss had paid him,
03:26but everything indicates that this man was inside, not outside the house.
03:30Where did they find the samples?
03:32On the floor and in his clothes.
03:35In the tie of the robe,
03:37the robe that ends up becoming the murder weapon.
03:42In a veil of her hair.
03:44Also a hair.
03:46Yes, a public veil.
03:48But more than anything, a trace, obviously.
03:51Now, what did the parker have to do with the robe?
03:55I don't know.
03:56He's going to have to explain that.
03:58He's going to have to explain it.
03:59How a trace of his could have reached the tie of the robe.
04:03If we often talk about perfect crime,
04:06this situation that we are seeing in the description.
04:09Well, a presumptuous.
04:11No, no, I tell you because it is a reality that many think.
04:14Perfect crime does not exist, there are bad investigations.
04:18Now, it is rare for so long and that it cannot be discovered.
04:22We are not talking about an ultra-powerful man
04:25who can generate the whole issue and clean up all the traces.
04:31And on the other hand, another question.
04:33You are talking about an agreement with a university in Florida.
04:37What would be the change or technological leap
04:40that would allow this to be discovered now and not before?
04:44It's a question.
04:45Maybe there is an answer.
04:46No, to have been able to isolate the trace in the tie of the robe.
04:50But you couldn't do that before.
04:52Prepare me, I ask our producer Noe,
04:54the statement of the Prosecutor's Office of Cordoba
04:57to review it because there are interesting elements there.
05:01We tell you that this is happening practically live.
05:06We came to a pre-party program, pre-Christmas.
05:09Now we are going to show you how the movement is in the city of Buenos Aires,
05:14at the exit of the city of Buenos Aires, in Aeroparque.
05:17But this really surprised us.
05:20We are talking about a crime that would be a criminal action,
05:25to be more precise, that would be prescribed by the passage of time.
05:29So, if it is determined that Bárcela actually commits homicide,
05:34the justice will not be able to punish him,
05:39he would not go to prison because the crime is prescribed by the passage of time,
05:44unless the Prosecutor's Office can discover that Bárcela committed another crime.
05:51That would interrupt the period of prescription.
05:56If it is prescribed, it cannot be judged.
05:59It cannot be judged.
06:01A case that has already been judged, Javi.
06:03Yes, because the husband of Marcelo Macarrón was impeached.
06:11Do you remember the case of Jay Mamon?
06:13Yes.
06:14Luca Benvenuto.
06:15The same.
06:16Benvenuto told the media what had happened.
06:20There was a cause, but it never progressed and was left in the dark.
06:23Why? Because he prescribed.
06:25Bye.
06:26There is no turning back.
06:27He is not guilty because the person denounced,
06:30because an investigation cannot be done.
06:33I give you, Mechi.
06:34I insist with the statement.
06:36Wait for me to have it there prepared.
06:38I listen to Mechi and we put it.
06:39Because in the statement there is already talk of a citation to declare.
06:43There is already talk of an imputation in the file.
06:46There is already talk of a defender designated by Bárcela.
06:51Now I want to go to the statement.
06:53Which one?
06:54Now.
06:55Now.
06:56So when this investigation continues,
06:58which summons a lawyer and others,
07:00and it is already cited,
07:01is it a circus or is it really worth moving forward?
07:04Because if we are saying it is prescribed
07:06and nothing is going to be able to be done,
07:08why move forward?
07:09Give me the file.
07:10Give me the statement of the Public Prosecutor's Office
07:13to be able to understand it.
07:15We are reading it.
07:16I ask Mechi or Pablo for a hand.
07:18You decide.
07:20Let's see, Mechi, what does he say?
07:23Case Dalmasso.
07:24Report from the Cordoban Public Prosecutor's Office.
07:26In the case of Dalmasso,
07:27genetic traces of a male person were found
07:30compatible with the evidence collected in the robe
07:33and in the victim's body.
07:35It has a date of December 23, 2024,
07:37within the framework of the investigation
07:39started on October 15, 2022,
07:41to identify participants in the crime
07:43dated November 25, 2006,
07:46in which Nora Raquel Dalmasso,
07:49the acting Special Prosecutor's Office
07:52in the city of Río Cuarto,
07:54reports that a male person
07:57appears as a contributor
07:58compatible with the genetic traces
08:00collected in the robe
08:03that was located
08:05knotted in the victim's neck
08:07and beautifully kidnapped
08:08in the inguinal area of it.
08:10Wait there.
08:11Look at the part that the Public Prosecutor's Office
08:15decides to put in black and highlight.
08:17A male person
08:20appears as a contributor
08:22compatible with the genetic traces
08:24collected in the robe
08:27that was located
08:28knotted in the victim's neck
08:30and beautifully kidnapped
08:32in the inguinal area of it.
08:34That is, we are talking about a murderer
08:37who uses some element
08:39taken in the crime scene.
08:42Bárcola himself, at the time of this fact,
08:45was 25 years old.
08:47Yes, and also a point.
08:49The belt of the robe
08:51must have been in any part of the room,
08:54but to find it in the public part,
08:56speaks of an absolute intimacy.
08:58Of course.
08:59Likewise, the Prosecutor's Office continues to work
09:01in order to analyze the rest of the test paper
09:04available for the composition of hypotheses
09:07according to the contribution of said material.
09:09It also works on relevant aspects
09:14to the analysis of the criminal action
09:16derived from the reported fact.
09:19Such conclusions were communicated
09:21to the Kereyante family
09:22and the syndicated person
09:23who went to the headquarters
09:25of the Fiscal Unit to exercise,
09:27with the due lettered assistance,
09:29his material and technical defense of the same.
09:31Well, there just covers me a little the graph.
09:34That is, it was already communicated
09:36and already assisted with defense.
09:38Yes, of course, because they communicate to him first
09:41what has been found,
09:44it is reported to him to install defense
09:47for the imputation.
09:50In the same way, it should be noted
09:52that throughout this process,
09:53the Prosecutor's Office was rigorous
09:55in guaranteeing all parties
09:57the possibility of observing, controlling
10:00and controverting the result of the genetic test
10:04referenced.
10:06They give him the possibility of defending himself
10:08by questioning what was found.
10:10This is what it says.
10:12What has been achieved so far
10:14is the result of the joint and interdisciplinary work
10:17between the Public Prosecutor's Office
10:19and the Forensic Genetics Center
10:21of the Judicial Power of Cordoba
10:23with the cooperation of the, well,
10:25there is what we said,
10:26the participation of the University of the United States
10:28with the collaboration of the Justice,
10:30of the Government of the Province of Cordoba,
10:32which was also vital to be able to clear
10:35this trace of Zabata.
10:38Well, there it is.
10:40What they are going to...
10:42It goes as an imputation,
10:43that is, it will have to go to an inquiry.
10:45There is already talk of an imputation.
10:46Yes.
10:47And there is already talk...
10:48What I think, Javi, is that...
10:49An act of defense of...
10:50Of course.
10:51The inquiry interrupts the term of prescription.
10:54Well.
10:55But for me it is prescribed
10:56by the passage of time from 2006,
10:58November 2006.
11:00I understand that it is 15 years.
11:02Then 18 passed.
11:04Yes.
11:05In total.
11:06At 12, 13 years.
11:08Yes.
11:09Yes.
11:10Yes, the inquiry,
11:11the inquiry request would have stopped
11:13the passage of time and the prescription.
11:16Prepare me urgently,
11:17I'm going to go to Cordoba.
11:18Be careful with this, Javi.
11:19No, I tell you,
11:20because there he said,
11:21precisely in the statement,
11:22something important.
11:23It says,
11:24in the framework of the investigation
11:25initiated on October 15, 2022,
11:28to identify participants of the crime
11:30dated November 25, 2006,
11:33in which the victim was Flora Dalmasso.
11:36There already,
11:37in the first line,
11:38the prosecution,
11:39what it says is,
11:40gentlemen,
11:41October 15, 2022,
11:42we started this.
11:44See what I told you before.
11:46That is, we found a genetic profile.
11:48It corresponds in two different places.
11:50Let's see,
11:51let's see who it is about.
11:53We have to identify this profile
11:55and make the comparison
11:57with those we already have
11:58or ask those who never took it.
12:01Yes.
12:02As at the time,
12:03to Bárcola himself,
12:04to this man,
12:05the parker.
12:08And then,
12:09what he mentions is,
12:10as Mercedes said,
12:11when they were talking about Mercedes,
12:13they find in the coat,
12:14sorry,
12:15in the tie,
12:16the tie,
12:17the belt of the coat,
12:18that was knotted
12:20or was strangling
12:21the neck of Nora Dalmasso
12:22at the time of the discovery of the corpse.
12:24It was placed,
12:25they did not remove it,
12:26but it was placed there.
12:28There they found the body with that.
12:30And also,
12:31a genetic profile on the floor.
12:33Yes.
12:34Sorry,
12:35in the ingle,
12:36in Nora Dalmasso's ingle.
12:38Two places,
12:39in the tie and in the ingle.
12:41Of course,
12:42the spots appear on the floor
12:44later,
12:45when later he did a job
12:46where he was left
12:47under a plaster.
12:48Exactly.
12:49The forensic operation
12:52determined
12:53that obviously
12:54it was a sexual abuse
12:56or at least
12:57a sexual act.
12:59Some said,
13:00well,
13:01it died
13:02as a consequence
13:03of the sexual act.
13:04In reality,
13:05what is believed,
13:06what was later believed,
13:08is that in reality,
13:09no,
13:10that it had been abused
13:12or at least
13:13it had maintained
13:14a non-consensual relationship.
13:15Yes.
13:16And that they kill her,
13:17what we were saying before,
13:19they kill her
13:20to hide
13:21the murderer himself.
13:22Crime is cause, Javi.
13:24Crime is cause.
13:25Always,
13:26so that you do not get lost,
13:28you have to differentiate
13:29that the Argentine criminal order
13:31has the simple homicide figure
13:33with a criminal scale
13:34of 8 to 25 years
13:36and that simple homicide figure
13:38is aggravated
13:39by certain issues,
13:40aggravating.
13:41One of them,
13:42for example,
13:45the relationship
13:46that may exist
13:47between the alleged murderer,
13:49the killer
13:50and the victim.
13:51Another is crime is cause.
13:53I kill
13:54to guarantee
13:55impunity
13:56of a previous crime.
13:57As Bien Torre said,
13:58in the case of Dalmaso,
14:01the suspicion is that
14:02the previous crime
14:03was a sexual abuse
14:04consumed
14:05for having found
14:07liquid,
14:08seminal,
14:09in the victim's body.
14:10With which,
14:11who kills her,
14:12kills her to hide
14:13that he raped her previously.
14:15Attention,
14:16we urgently go to Cordoba.