"Hum Sirf 2 Cheezen Chahtay Hen Kay...", Faisal Chaudhry
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00:00What will be the bare minimum?
00:01All your talks will not be accepted.
00:03You have to meet somewhere in the middle.
00:05Neither their demands will be accepted, nor yours.
00:08What is the bare minimum?
00:09This is the starting point.
00:10Look, we want two things.
00:13The first thing is that we do not want any settlement for our prisoners.
00:17We want you to either conclude their trial from 9th May.
00:22Now there is a penalty of one year for the crime of which you have kept them in custody for a year and a half.
00:27Along with that, you have to either conclude their trial or give them bail.
00:31Because this is their right.
00:33If you keep them in custody for two years, then they become prisoners of murder.
00:37So we are not asking for a settlement.
00:39We are not saying that you will withdraw.
00:41We are ready to face.
00:42But it will be a political settlement.
00:43It is not a legal settlement.
00:44Let's be very honest.
00:45It is political.
00:46Secondly, we want you to make a judicial commission.
00:49Look, we think and we say that 9th May is a politically motivated action by the government.
00:58There are reasons for that.
01:00Those who have left PTI have been declared prisoners.
01:04And those who have not left PTI, there are 40 cases on each person.
01:10They have weakened their case themselves.
01:11Yes, they have weakened their case.
01:12Along with that, we will punish some people in the military court tomorrow.
01:20I do not endorse it.
01:21I think that is…
01:22Principally, I am also against the trial of civilians in the political court.
01:25But the Supreme Court has a very big fault in this.
01:27The Supreme Court has dealt with this case through temporary orders.
01:31This is the most important case of fundamental rights.
01:33This is the case of the Saini Bank and the old Supreme Court.
01:35But Mr. Faisal, what you are talking about is technically legal.
01:38But this is not a technical and legal case.
01:40This is a political case.
01:41Even if you are not asking for any leniency, you will go towards a political solution.
01:46The decision of a £190 case is not coming tomorrow.
01:49Is this a legal issue?
01:50This is a political issue.
01:51We are talking about the Al-Khadr Trust case.
01:52Yes, this is the problem that was supposed to come tomorrow.
01:55This is a political problem.
01:56This is not a legal problem.
01:57Tell me, there are about 300 cases on Imran Khan.
02:02Or he has kept Busha Bibi in jail for 10 months.
02:05Or there is a case on Alima Bibi.
02:09This is a legal case.
02:10This is also a political case.
02:11Yes, this is a political case.
02:12I am telling you that you will get a political relief.
02:14You will also have to give them a political solution.
02:16This is a win-take.
02:17The first thing is that their counter-agenda has come.
02:20What do they want?
02:21What are their demands?
02:22They want the government of Form 47 to be forgotten.
02:26We should be endorsed.
02:28Parliament should be endorsed.
02:29That's a good question.
02:30When their political demands will come to light.
02:32Let's ask them.
02:33Mr. Barise, what are your counter-demands?
02:36They have two simple demands.
02:37That they should make a commission.
02:38And release our politicians.
02:39What are your big demands?
02:41Don't tell me specific TORs.
02:44Which have not been decided.
02:45What is the understanding in the government?
02:47What will they have to do?
02:49To meet you halfway.
02:50Look, Mr. Barise.
02:53We will first look at their demands.
02:55Because this is a two-point agenda.
02:56These are two demands.
02:57These are not the real demands.
02:59We are also very cognizant of the fact.
03:01We are well aware.
03:03That the real demand here.
03:05Will be the release of Baniya PTI.
03:07That's why I endorse them.
03:10That they should go.
03:11Meet this committee.
03:12And get their demands from there.
03:14Because the real thing is.
03:16This cat should come out of the bag.
03:18And should be visible.
03:19To the public and to us.
03:20That here.
03:21Under the pretext of jokes.
03:23If there is a deal or a deal.
03:25Is being asked.
03:26Then that we can.
03:27Because the cases they talked about.
03:30They said.
03:31£190 million is a political case.
03:33Do you really think.
03:34£190 million.
03:35Or Tushakhana.
03:36Tushakhana.
03:37200%.
03:38I want to know.
03:39Mr. Birbal.
03:40Why is the decision not coming tomorrow?
03:41And why did some people find out earlier?
03:42And in the court.
03:43In the evening.
03:44The decision is not coming.
03:45It was coming yesterday.
03:46So when there is such a manipulation.
03:47Then it is a political case.
03:48Legally.
03:49Then the decision was made yesterday.
03:50It is not being made.
03:51They are taking it forward in January.
03:52If.
03:53If.
03:54I will definitely say.
03:55If this was really a political case.
03:58Then.
03:59Then.
04:00Money wouldn't have changed hands.
04:01Then.
04:02In closed envelopes.
04:03Approval is not taken.
04:04From the entire cabinet.
04:05And after that.
04:06There was nothing to present.
04:07Now.
04:08This is the.
04:09£190 million is a political case.
04:10And then it was said.
04:11That if anyone from my party.
04:12Give me a proof.
04:13That anyone from my party.
04:14Or office bearer.
04:15Or someone.
04:16My supporter or voter.
04:17If I am involved in 9th May.
04:18Then I will take him out of the party.
04:19Right.
04:2025 people.
04:21It will be decided.
04:22Similarly.
04:23At the same time.
04:24You see this.
04:25That.
04:26The whole.
04:27It was curated.
04:28All this.
04:29It was carefully planned.
04:30May 9th.
04:31It is in front of you.
04:32It is not possible.
04:33The handling of this.
04:34Sir.
04:35From the state.
04:36There is no political angling in it.
04:37Let's come to May 9th.
04:38Those who did press conferences.
04:39They are still doing politics.
04:40Those who did not do it.
04:41Cases against them also went on.
04:42They are also in jails.
04:43Some decisions have also come to the military court.
04:44Why were there different scales.
04:45If this was not handled politically.
04:46Look.
04:47Mother.
04:48This is a political case.
04:49This is a political case.
04:50This is a political case.
04:51This is a political case.
04:52This is a political case.
04:53This is a political case.
04:54This is a political case.
04:55There should be no different scales at all.
04:59If someone has done a press conference.
05:00It does not mean that.
05:05Absolutely.
05:06Definitely they should be driven to their role.
05:10Yeah.
05:11Definitely.
05:12Let's say.
05:13Let's do it.
05:14I am your brother.
05:15And we will tell you.
05:16A few people have done a press conference.
05:17And, some story.
05:18And then those who did this.
05:19That all.
05:20This is done here.
05:21Oh, I don't know who is in charge here.
05:23If they were actually aiding and abetting, or they were part of the May 9th events,
05:30and it was just a press conference, then it shouldn't have happened.
05:34It shouldn't have happened, but unfortunately it did happen.
05:38That is why I am saying that the way it has been dealt with, the way it has been treated,
05:42it has a political angling.
05:44Al-Qadir case will undoubtedly have a lot of life, but the way it is being dealt with
05:48is a political case.
05:50If the judge has to write a decision, if all the arguments from both sides
05:54regarding the defense and prosecution have been completed,
05:56then it will take time for him to write a decision.
05:59Of course, it can also be said that if he has announced a date tentatively,
06:03and then he wants to change it, then there is no such thing.
06:07We wait for an IRO's wait for order, and that day,
06:11Mr. Faisal will also tell you that the decision does not even come from the High Court.
06:16The next day or two days after the wait for order,
06:20there is no such thing.