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00:00What should be the role of Mr. Mian?
00:04In today's situation, Mr. Mian would have played a role.
00:12He is not an old politician.
00:15He has the ability to convince the person who meets him.
00:24He has a relationship with every political leader except Mr. Imran Khan.
00:32He had a relationship with Mr. Imran Khan before, but not anymore.
00:35His job today was to take care of the problems of this country.
00:40He has the ability to do this.
00:42He could have played this role.
00:45He should have played this role.
00:46This is his responsibility.
00:47He still plays this role.
00:48He should find a way.
00:51He should find a way.
00:52What is the way?
00:54The way is to accept each other.
00:58This cannot be solved with bullets.
01:03It can be solved with facts.
01:07What is the biggest problem right now?
01:09There is no political resolution.
01:13But when two parties look at each other, how do they look at each other?
01:16Do they look at each other as enemies?
01:17Yes, they look at each other as enemies.
01:19They look at each other as enemies.
01:20They look at each other as enemies.
01:21They look at each other as enemies.
01:23Parties live up to politics.
01:26You are going to break houses.
01:27You are shooting bullets.
01:28They are attacking the government.
01:31What kind of politics is this?
01:33The Chief Minister comes here.
01:35He is the head of a province.
01:38He comes here to fight.
01:41He openly announces that he is attacking.
01:46With a machine gun.
01:48Shouldn't he be given a democratic right to protest?
01:55Shouldn't he be given a place to protest?
01:58He wants to bring his caravan without government machinery.
02:02Because he has to bring machinery.
02:04You make people hold press conferences.
02:07You make people give interviews on social media.
02:09Let them come, we will see.
02:11When they do this, the next one also says the same.
02:13There is failure on both sides.
02:14The way was that they didn't even give a request.
02:17They gave a request that we are protesting here.
02:20The government says that this is the place.
02:23Which was identified by your government.
02:25Absolutely.
02:26Which is a bar parade ground.
02:27Absolutely.
02:28You come here and protest.
02:29Neither did they do this, nor was their answer correct.
02:32Both are wrong.
02:33They keep a container.
02:34They cross it and come.
02:36They cut roads.
02:37They shut down the internet.
02:38Schools are closed.
02:40The children are happy.
02:43And then there are weekly classes.
02:44The children are happy.
02:45It's been a month.
02:46Let the children be happy.
02:47If you meet Musam Ali Noon or Mian Nawaz Sharif today.
02:50Let's say.
02:51Every politician, especially people in your position have a role.
02:55If you meet Mian Nawaz Sharif, what will you say?
02:59One or two things.
03:00Where is he wrong and what should he do?
03:03No.
03:04Show the way.
03:05The whole matter is wrong.
03:06What is happening in the country today.
03:08This country cannot tolerate this matter.
03:11And Mian Nawaz Sharif is the one who should recognize this matter.
03:16For 40 years in national politics, no one has got so much time in Pakistan.
03:2040 years.
03:21If we can't find a solution today, who will find a solution tomorrow?
03:27Before I tell you, if you meet Imran Khan, what will you explain to him?
03:32The same thing for him.
03:33Find a solution.
03:34What solution will you suggest if you have to do it?
03:38Sir, I have only one solution.
03:39You all sit down.
03:40Decide on an agenda.
03:41How will the country move forward?
03:43Staying within the constitution.
03:44The army should sit down.
03:45The judge should sit down.
03:46Politicians should sit down.
03:47On the next day.
03:48Sir, why should the army sit down?
03:49Why should the judge sit down?
03:50What does it have to do with this?
03:51Sir, today he is a part of politics.
03:53Now let him close his eyes.
03:54You have made him a part of politics.
03:56The constitution does not give a share.
03:57Sir, look at the constitution.
03:58Look at the constitution.
03:59The army is also a part of it.
04:00Judiciary is also a part of it.
04:01Sir, but you have to go through the constitution.
04:03You don't have to go through the constitution.
04:04I am not going out of the constitution.
04:06There is no place in the constitution
04:07where the army and judiciary cannot sit down
04:08and solve the problems of the country.
04:09There is no place in the constitution
04:10where they can take a share in politics.
04:11They have taken an oath to take a share in politics.
04:12Sir, whether they take a share in politics or not,
04:14but today,
04:15both the judiciary and the army
04:17are a part of the affairs of this country.
04:19That is a fact.
04:21That is why today,
04:22when you decide on the next agenda,
04:24you will have to sit down.
04:26People should see.
04:27Look,
04:28the constitution is absolutely present.
04:30I am also in favor of the constitution.
04:31Look,
04:32when you are finding a solution to an issue,
04:34you have to understand the facts.
04:35Sir, you are saying that
04:36there should be a practical solution.
04:37No.
04:38I am not going out of the constitution.
04:40You are going out of the constitution.
04:42Sir, you and I can debate this.
04:43Let's go.
04:45Is there a need to make a new Imrani Moida?
04:47A new Imrani Moida can be made.
04:49There are Imrani clubs.
04:50Leave that.
04:51A new Imrani Moida.
04:52That is an N.
04:54That is also an N.
04:55That is also an N.
04:56That is also an N.
04:58Tell me,
04:59a new social contract.
05:01How to run this country?
05:03Which you call the Charter of Democracy.
05:05Something like that.
05:06The social contract
05:08cannot be better than this.
05:10Have you ever implemented it?
05:12Have you ever accepted it?
05:13If you agree,
05:14then we will come together
05:15and make the same decision.
05:16We will accept it.
05:17Sir, I am saying this.
05:18You sit down,
05:19stay within the constitution,
05:20fix the agenda,
05:21and make a government
05:22which will implement that agenda
05:23for the next four years
05:24so that the borders of the country can be corrected.
05:26You,
05:27today,
05:28give all the seats to a Jamaat.
05:30I did.
05:31You can't do anything.
05:32You can't do anything.
05:34You can't do anything.
05:36You can't do anything.
05:37So,
05:38what you are saying is
05:39you will have to sit down.
05:40All of you will have to sit down.
05:41Yes, sit down.
05:42We have an agenda.
05:43You say, sit down.
05:44Sir, we have to fix the agenda.
05:45Sit down.
05:46Not to have a discussion.
05:47Not to divide the power.
05:48Sir, the government says
05:49not to tell us the agenda.
05:51You sit with us without any condition.
05:53Sir, the agenda,
05:54I am talking about the country's agenda.
05:55I am not talking about the personal agenda.
05:57You have registered on someone.
05:59I have registered on 788.
06:02The day will come.
06:05The government is being defamed.
06:07The weak government
06:09has put 788 on the people.
06:13They are in jail.
06:15Let them come out.
06:16What difference does it make?
06:18What difference?
06:19The day will come.
06:20Look, that day,
06:21Mr. Fawad was narrating this incident.
06:23I have heard that this incident,
06:24this discussion is also true.
06:26Maulana Fazl-e-Uman went to meet Mr. Ran-e-Sanaw Allah.
06:28Maulana Fazl-e-Uman said,
06:29let them come out.
06:30What are you doing?
06:31He said,
06:32if we let them come out,
06:33the government will fall.
06:34If we have elections,
06:35the majority will come.
06:36And then we will go to jail.
06:38They will come to power.
06:39Yesterday,
06:40Mr. Javed Lateef,
06:41I was in Mr. Badami's TV program.
06:43He said,
06:44this is not possible
06:45that the government goes to jail
06:46and the jailer comes to power.
06:47This is a real fear.
06:48Sir, we will have to remove this fear.
06:50If everyone is afraid of each other,
06:52then everyone is put in jail.
06:54All together.
06:56Look,
06:57these are small things.
06:59The importance of the country is more.
07:01If a person is in jail,
07:03or if he is new to the country,
07:05then there are political and economic problems.
07:08You have to accept the facts.
07:10Look,
07:11if you were lucky,
07:12then maybe he would have been unaccepted.
07:13If he was,
07:14then it would have been irrelevant.
07:15This debate is most irrelevant
07:16because he is popular also.
07:17Sir,
07:18which political leader
07:19went to jail and became unaccepted?
07:21This is true.
07:22But tell me one thing,
07:23Mr. Shahid,
07:24you are talking about coming to Islamabad again and again.
07:26There was a protest in 2014 also.
07:28You were in the government at that time.
07:30Yes.
07:31You left D-Chowk from here
07:33and gave permission to go to the red zone.
07:35You came to the red zone,
07:36now the doors are open.
07:37All the offices of the ministry were under their control.
07:40They had a check post,
07:42of the journalists.
07:44All the ministries going inside…
07:46You were passing from behind.
07:47Yes, we used to pass through the jungle.
07:49What happened this time
07:50that they said,
07:51no, we will not allow it.
07:52They are out of their mind.
07:53We will not allow it.
07:54The bullets were fired.
07:55The bullets could have been fired at that time also.
07:56I am saying that
07:57what is the difference
07:58between that time and now?
07:59Sir,
08:00there is a difference
08:01in the thinking of
08:02Mian Nawaz Sharif
08:03and Mian Shahbaz Sharif.
08:04You are saying that
08:05Mian Nawaz Sharif
08:06is with this thinking.
08:07I mean,
08:08listen to me.
08:09On one hand,
08:10you say that
08:11he is the head of the party.
08:12Mr. Shahbaz says
08:13that
08:14this country cannot move
08:15without Mian Nawaz Sharif.
08:16What are you doing?
08:17You are saying
08:18that they do not know.
08:19Sir,
08:20I cannot accept
08:21that Mian Nawaz Sharif
08:22is the head of the party.
08:23You need to wake up
08:24and you need to understand
08:25the new realities
08:26of politics.
08:27Sir,
08:28the reality
08:29that I have known
08:30for 35 years,
08:31I will talk on its basis.
08:32The bullets could have been fired
08:33at that time also.
08:34People were saying
08:35that
08:36we will clean it
08:37in half an hour.
08:38I mean,
08:39we will make it empty.
08:40There were not 50 people
08:41in D-Chowk
08:42during the day.
08:43But,
08:44it did not happen.
08:45They left.