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00:00Do you think that Qazi Faisal should be held responsible for all the controversy surrounding the constitutional court?
00:10Sir, I would say that Qazi Faisal has two choices.
00:14I have repeatedly said this.
00:16I don't know him. I don't have any personal relationship with him.
00:19He said some things that I was convinced of his stance.
00:25Unfortunately, I am not with him today.
00:29He has two choices.
00:31One is the path of respect.
00:33He has a job of 2, 3 or 5 years.
00:36Make a decision.
00:38What do you want?
00:40People have to make their own decisions.
00:43These are the choices in life.
00:46This is what a legacy is.
00:49You don't create a legacy.
00:51A legacy is how people judge your actions.
00:55I have heard many people say that they are making a legacy.
00:58The court has given a decision.
01:02Whether it is right or wrong is another matter.
01:04I personally like Mr. Yafridi's decision.
01:09I have read this decision as well.
01:11It is irrelevant whether you like it or not.
01:15Yesterday, Mr. Iffan Siddiqui held a press conference.
01:19He asked how to defend the assembly of law and order.
01:25He asked what to do if you made a mistake.
01:29He asked what to do.
01:31He asked you to accept the decision.
01:33If you have a reserved seat, you have to accept the decision.
01:38Why did Mr. Yusuf Gilani go home?
01:41He should not have gone.
01:43Why did Mr. Mian go home?
01:45He should not have gone.
01:47He should not have gone.
01:49He should not have gone.
01:51He should not have gone.
01:53I have made both the decisions.
01:55You are saying that the time has changed.
01:57That was a different time.
01:59It is the same people.
02:01It is the same people.
02:03It is Mr. Yusuf Gilani's party.
02:05Mr. Mian is himself.
02:07He did not come in 1947.
02:09He has come now.
02:11We should be more careful.
02:13Even if the governments of Form 45 can break,
02:15they should accept a wrong decision.
02:17Otherwise, they will say that they will not go home.
02:19What will you do?
02:21Don't create this tradition.
02:23Don't do this.
02:25Have you seen the laws that have been passed?
02:27Each and every one of them
02:29rejects the decision.
02:31They say that this law was made today.
02:33It will be applied from the beginning.
02:35It will be applied from the 18th.
02:37From the 17th to the 18th.
02:39What kind of thinking is this?
02:41Look, sovereignty is not total.
02:43There are limits to sovereignty.
02:45If a parliament
02:47ends all your fundamental rights
02:49from the 18th to the 1st,
02:51what will you do?
02:53Will it be reformed?
02:55It will never be reformed.
02:57It is the responsibility of the Supreme Court
02:59to strike down.
03:01Even today, when fundamental rights are violated,
03:03it is the responsibility of the Supreme Court
03:05to strike down.
03:07Look, there will never be a court to strike down.
03:09We will see when it is formed.
03:11Before that, strike down.
03:13It is not possible.
03:15It is not possible that you give
03:17freedom to the people.
03:19But do you think,
03:21as we used to say,
03:23the documents are coming down.
03:25Now it does not matter to anyone.
03:27Now my interest is only in this.
03:29The country does not work like this.
03:31And let me tell you today.
03:33You are younger than me.
03:35You will be here.
03:37What do you know about this?
03:39No one knows that I will be here.
03:41No, no.
03:43Inshallah, you will be here.
03:45You will see.
03:47The people who are passing today,
03:49they will go in.
03:51They will be given the same rights.
03:53The fundamental rights are being violated.
03:55Everything is being violated.
03:57They are making courts.
03:59Constitutional courts.
04:01Who has ever said that there should be a constitutional court?
04:03Has the Supreme Court ever said that there should be a constitutional court?
04:05You made a bench last year.
04:07Last year,
04:09this same government,
04:11these same people legislated
04:13that there should be a bench.
04:15Committee, you mean?
04:17Committee.
04:19In the Supreme Court, there should be a committee or a bench
04:21that looks at constitutional issues.
04:23Today,
04:25you can ask.
04:27The president can ask the judiciary.
04:29Can you tell us whether there should be a constitutional court or not?
04:31Do you have that right?
04:33Can you ask this?
04:35But now it will be there.
04:37It will be there.
04:39If a problem arises,
04:41even if the Supreme Court talks about it,
04:43they will say that there should be a constitutional court.
04:45Now, these issues can only go to the Supreme Court.
04:47Tell me,
04:49there are also military trials.
04:51Today, Maulana Sahib says that
04:53there should be a military trial
04:55with Sunset Clause.
04:57Should there be a military trial?
04:59In what form?
05:019th May.
05:03If the military trial of 9th May
05:05has been violated by the Army Act,
05:07and charges are made in it,
05:09then there can be a military trial
05:11of a civilian in the military courts.
05:13Military courts are not standing courts.
05:15They are martial law courts.
05:17They are summary trial proceedings.
05:19It is still there.
05:21It is still there in the Army Act.
05:23It is very clear
05:25how a civilian can be tried.
05:27And it is very clear
05:29that if there has been an attack on Army institutions,
05:31then if a civilian is involved in it,
05:33he can be tried in that conspiracy.
05:35There won't be any political reaction to it, right?
05:37No, there will definitely be a political reaction.
05:39You cannot do military trials
05:41in the democratic governments
05:43of politicians.
05:45This tradition is not correct.
05:47If you do something,
05:49especially if you start trialing
05:51for terrorism,
05:53how will you justify it?