The Arizona Cardinals' 30-17 win over the New England Patriots raised serious questions about the Patriots' coaching. CLNS Media's Taylor Kyles and SI's Mike Kadlick discussed the team's defensive struggles, offensive issues, and whether Jerod Mayo's job is at risk.
0:00 - Introduction
2:50 - Team meeting cancellation
6:48 Coaching staff
13:24 - Player performance
27:41 - Christian Gonzalez shines
34:11 - Offense struggles
47:45 - Impressive passing plays
51:49 - Overall game review
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0:00 - Introduction
2:50 - Team meeting cancellation
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13:24 - Player performance
27:41 - Christian Gonzalez shines
34:11 - Offense struggles
47:45 - Impressive passing plays
51:49 - Overall game review
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00:00I am joined by Robert Griffin, the third James White field. Yes, Mina Kimes. All right. So
00:11first play, we're going to look at second into one of the Patriots first offensive plays.
00:18What's going on everyone? Mike Catholic, Taylor Kyle's here for CLNS media after some quick
00:23technical difficulties, a little bit of a delay, but it is four Oh six. And we are back
00:27with another episode of Pat's daily powered by prospects and game time. And we're here
00:32are here once again to recap Patriots versus Cardinals. If you saw us last night on Patriot
00:37post game, we went into detail a little bit about what happened last night in Arizona.
00:42Patriots fall 30 to 17. They fall to three and 11 after that 30 to 17 loss. Not a lot
00:49of good coming out of it. Taylor, a couple, a couple of high notes. We think it's really
00:52Drake man. We think it's Christian Gonzalez and that's pretty much it. So what we're going
00:56to do here is go through a couple storylines, offensively, defensively, and most importantly,
01:02coaching to kind of kick this thing off and kick off the week ahead.
01:05We were going to do we're going to do a little bit more film breakdown, but we're going to
01:08do that tomorrow. We're going to break down what Drake may did against Arizona. I know
01:12everybody wants to see number 10s films. So we're going to do that tomorrow. But today,
01:16like I said, we're going to go through basically what has happened and take a 24 hours later
01:21look at this game. And first and foremost, Taylor, I think we have to look at Gerard
01:25Mayo last night, fresh and hot off the game. We were both calling, calling for his job,
01:31basically, and not, not entirely, but, you know, saying that it is it is time to look
01:35at this thing a lot more seriously because we had been the ones to sort of take a a more
01:40measured approach to it. But after last night's disaster, you know, not a lot of good came
01:45out of it. Now he then makes the comment about Alex Van Pelt saying, you said it, I didn't
01:50more PR blunders, nightmares from this guy, and then takes it back this morning, says
01:54it was a defensive response.
01:59We knew it was going to happen, right? Like we knew he was going to make, it was, it was
02:02the same exact thing, bad loss, bad comment, take it back. But he does take it back and
02:07basically said that Alex Van Pelt didn't even know what he was talking about. So are you
02:11over that comment yet? Where are you at with the whole Gerard Mayo mess post game? And
02:16then also for, for what it's worth, they canceled a team meeting today. They canceled their
02:20media availability with players. A lot of the Twitter aggregators of this world, the,
02:25the savage sports is, and those kinds of guys were like, Oh no, Robert Kraft came in and
02:29he's pulling them out of meetings and they're going to go fire drawn Mayo.
02:32Now that we're at four o'clock in the afternoon, I don't think that was the case. My read on
02:36it was late flight from Arizona. You're across the country, bad loss, go home, sleep it off
02:42and let's get back here Tuesday, get back to work or even Wednesday and get back to
02:45work. That was my take on it, but take it all. And you know, kind of where are you at
02:48now? 24 hours after kickoff. Yeah. I don't think the canceled meetings was a huge deal.
02:52That's one of those where until we hear more, I'm just not going to go, you know, the more
02:57dramatic route and assume that something crazy happened. Like, could it just been a flight
03:00delay? Like you said, maybe not even so much that it was a loss, but the fact that it is
03:05across the country, that's a tough trip.
03:07They left early for anyway, I'm not really going to freak out about that when it comes
03:11to Gerard Mayo's comments, it kind of ties into, he hasn't lost the locker room yet,
03:16which is frankly, I don't care substantively what he says, as long as it doesn't affect
03:22the coaches and the players. And they're not upset with him. It's just like the soft comment
03:26or even in hindsight, I was like, I don't really care. It's like, I think that if anything
03:31players should probably take that as a wake-up call being like, yeah, I played midline backer
03:35in a bill Belichick defense.
03:36And I know what soft football looks like now, like with that situation, I can also acknowledge
03:43not putting things out there that he has to apologize for later, especially when he asked
03:48to acknowledge that it was because of his emotions. Like you are supposed to be a leader
03:52of men. You are a head football coach in the national football league. You need to hold
03:58your composure. And it's not like you're someone with a track record where sometimes bill Belichick
04:02wants to be kind of an a-hole, you know what, you're going to eat it because that's bill
04:05Belichick.
04:06You know, he's got his track record. He's allowed to, you know, every once in a while
04:09go off the beaten path, but you haven't proven nothing. You are coming off another really
04:13bad loss after a whole week of saying, we practiced really well, guys are prepared that
04:19we have to be better and play our best football towards the end of the year. And then it felt
04:23like he took a step back. So again, last night it did upset me because it did sound like
04:28he was putting van Pelt under the bus if he wasn't and he and van Pelt are cool, awesome.
04:33But once again, stop with the unnecessary comments. And frankly, sometimes they're,
04:40I think, irresponsible because you keep putting yourself in the organization in these awkward
04:44positions where you have to keep walking back. He even got made fun of on the Greg Hill show
04:49where one of the guys made the joke and then you can kind of tell he caught him off guard
04:54a little bit and he was like, Oh, I'll get you after the show. It's like, yeah, because
04:57he got you pretty good on the show. So yeah, just, you know, stop putting your foot in
05:01your mouth, man. That's I think not the biggest thing. There's a lot that has to happen first,
05:06but like until you start winning and what you say in interviews, isn't a big deal. Just
05:10like keep it basic. I try to be nice, be cordial, but it doesn't mean you have to just say everything
05:15that pops into your head.
05:16So funny on EDI this morning when again, it was like Curtis got a little frazzled and
05:22Gerard was like, Oh, you're getting nervous. And then he was like, yeah, I'm going to walk
05:24this back tomorrow. Just a good shot. And everyone was making a big deal that he was
05:29laughing the next day. And look on one hand, I get it on the other hand, there's more fish
05:34to fry here, I think. And again, I understand the veterans on the beat who have seen it
05:39one way and now it's another like, I get that. But I personally just don't like to get really
05:45deep into the whole reading body language, people laughing. Like you would hope that
05:49this doesn't actually just completely eat away at them to the point where like they
05:52just go inside themselves.
05:54Cause I don't know what kind of message that is to send either. But I also get where they're
05:58coming from. I just, I, I, you know, I think that's a very slippery slope. I thought it
06:02was, I thought it was harmless and hilarious. And even Mayo was a, yeah, touche like good
06:05answer. And like you said, he was like, I'm going to have to get you after. I thought
06:08it was funny. I thought it was a good joke by Curtis. That was, that was a perfect little
06:11thing. That was, that was a good thing. But on that note and on where we're at and I'm
06:16going to go off on not a, not a tangent here, but I'm going to read some comments from players
06:19post game.
06:20And this is a, I want to point out all courtesy of Mark Daniels, who was in Arizona yesterday
06:26interviewed a bunch of players, got a bunch of really good quotes. If you want to read
06:29it more in depth, head over to Mark's page on Twitter or on mass lab.com. And he basically
06:34talks to a handful of players after the game and got their perspective on where the Patriots
06:40are at and why they lost that game. And my opinion on it, which I'll get to, but is these
06:47comments from these players are what are probably going to allow Gerard to keep his job once
06:51again, because last night we were saying that the coaching was bad.
06:55The playing was bad. If it's the same players for the most part, but they're not executing
07:00the way they were last year, then the common denominator is coaching and something's got
07:06to give, but Mark on both sides of the ball, Doug with multiple players who basically said
07:11it's on us. And I'm going to read a couple here. Jonathan Jones said, we've all earned
07:14criticism, coaches, players, everyone. This is a results business. It hasn't been good
07:20enough and we've all heard we've earned the criticism. Christian Barmore says, I feel
07:25like people don't understand that they're really great coaches. We've just got to play
07:29our game. Stay focused. We have great coaches, a great head coach, a great defensive coordinator.
07:34We have to keep moving forward to bro. Pepper's straight up says it's not on the coaches.
07:38I feel like whatever they call, as long as we execute the right way, as long as we're
07:41all on the same page, we can survive the down. I think it's just too much lack of attention
07:46on the details. Uh, he said more, but again, go, go to Mark's page. If you want to read
07:50it, Godshaw says, draw it's playing days are over. He's on the sidelines. Seeing it as
07:54a coach. Now players have to take accountability. So players out there, a hundred percent of
07:58the time, uh, we have to take the accountability. We have to play better, better when you're
08:02the head coach. That's the kind of heat you're going to take.
08:05Kendrick born, moving to the offense says it's everything. It's all of us. We take pride
08:09in being a group. Everybody's in it together, upstairs, coaches, players. Um, and my gun
08:15the coaching staff's doing well. We're the ones who are playing the game. I don't put
08:18nothing on the coaches where the players, the ones who have to execute the game, play
08:22the game. Uh, he says, uh, we're running the plate or we need to run the play as good.
08:26The offense we have as good. We have plays, but you're only as good as you play. And so
08:31all of this is to tell me like, if it was bad enough inside players would speak out,
08:38right. And they might not say it on the record. For example, if Jabril peppers had a bone
08:42to pick with a coach, he might talk to Mark about it and say, just don't put my name on
08:46it. Right. Where guys are coming out here and putting their stamp of approval on draw
08:51Mayo and on the process that we keep talking about.
08:53I think last week, Taylor, you said it where you trust Mayo's or you think that he has
08:59the process where he knows what they have to do on any given Sunday. These guys just
09:03aren't doing it. And that's what it sounds like the players are saying. So until they
09:07flip until there's a belief inside those doors that we don't think he's putting us on the
09:12right position, it's going to be up to the players. It sounds like, and I think that
09:16this is, these are the kinds of things that might save his job for at least another year.
09:20That's true. And also like we talked about yesterday, firing Mayo is not just the easy
09:23fix that it sounds like on paper. You say, Oh, just bring in Ben Johnson. And he makes
09:29the offense, you know, what's so schematically advanced, even though he has no head coaching
09:33experience and he's just as much of a shot in the dark as derived Mayo was as someone
09:38who has no head coaching experience.
09:39No one wants to talk about that. But then even if you want to talk about like my cradle,
09:43you're still potentially threatening the infrastructure around Drake may around the front office,
09:49which hasn't really done anything so egregious that they deserve to be fired. And I do agree
09:53that if the locker room is still pro Mayo, I think you have to at least give him one
09:57more season because I think then you risk ownership kind of stepping on the player's
10:01toes as well. Yeah. Things were bad, but we all know that the roster wasn't great. Now
10:05that being said, I think if management goes with that or ownership goes with that, then
10:10you're saying, okay, let's at least get this guy better players.
10:13Like we spend in for agency, like go according to plan and see where exactly the cracks are.
10:19When we have experienced players, when we have better talent filling all of these glaring
10:23holes that we have now, are they still just an impossible product to watch? Or is it okay?
10:30Overall they're not that bad. You know, Gerard may with the very worst could be a Nick Sirianni
10:33where he basically just needs to get out of the way, hire good coordinators, let the front
10:37office fill the roster with talent and basically just be that, you know, thousand foot view
10:42kind of CEO type that he wants to be. So again, I don't think that firing, I think it's blown
10:47out again, two more times. I know we're going to have to keep having this conversation and
10:51that is just, that's just what it is because obviously ownership wasn't happy based on
10:55last night. We don't have the kind of connections where we know how they feel today, but we
10:59can only go off of that information. But at the same time, the players who keep speaking
11:04up a lot of the time are the guys who are the ones making mistakes. And we're going
11:09to get into it more, especially with the run defense. But it just feels like I tweeted
11:13it last night, the offense. I'm not that worried about the glaring issues are the offensive
11:17line. Could they have more talent? Absolutely. And I think that's going to be a priority.
11:21But if you replace left tackle the center with quality players, DeMondre Jacobs being
11:26the worst player on your offensive line, really isn't the worst thing in the world.
11:29Has he been great? No, but I think he's offered four pressures over the last two weeks. He's
11:33had some good run blocks with Mike and when you, he's been a backup obviously, but a lot
11:38of NFL lines, unfortunately have at least one piece where it's not an ideal starter.
11:43So I think if you fix that, which you can, if Cam Robinson hits the market, you offer
11:46him a Trey Smith hits the market. You offer him one of these veteran guys, whether it's
11:50to Marcus Robinson, Brandon cooks, um, you know, um, um, uh, Darius, Satan, you know,
11:56who I like, you know, I was going to mention him. You can bring one of those veterans into
11:59compete for a spot, maybe draft another receiver. I think you're in decent shape. Defensively
12:05to buy is obviously not in the best position. He's being asked to be the hammer that you
12:09want Bentley was, he is not that, but he's also struggling in ways that you really would
12:13expect a guy who's been in league for a while.
12:16Like him not to struggle your bro peppers and Kyle Duggar at times. I'm just looking
12:19at the tape and I'm thinking, this doesn't look like these guys they're making plays
12:23against the run. You know, they're not total duds out there, but it's too many times I'm
12:27looking at them and saying, why are two players who have been captains at points for this
12:30team? The guys that I'm looking at pretty consistently thinking, I just don't know if
12:35you're going a hundred percent, whether that's due to health, whether it's effort, whether
12:39it's recognition and preparation, whatever it is, when the veterans are the ones struggling,
12:43you have to start scratching your head and saying, is it really just you?
12:47Because if it is, then you can't keep coming up to the report or you, I guess you can because
12:51they are, but you keep coming up to reporters and telling us, yeah, we have to play better
12:54for the coaches. We'll play better then. Cause I don't really understand why you can't, if
12:58you're not healthy enough, let other guys get opportunities. Like Kyle Duggar looks
13:02like he's hurt on the field. Meanwhile, as far as we know, Martin who's been a healthy
13:06scratch. So when it's like John Jones at times overrunning, you know, like on the, the play
13:12that Jonah Williams recovered the touchdown, John Jones completely ran by a Dorch.
13:16Jabril Peppers didn't make the tackle on that play either. Jabril Peppers a few times looked
13:21like his pursuit, whether it was effort or just angles, wasn't really great. You know,
13:25Godshaw I'd say he's been a bit up or down, but nose tackle, it's such a difficult position
13:30and he's not getting blown out of gaps all the time. So I try to, you know, give him
13:33some grace. Um, then Kendrick Bourne, even we're going to talk about that as well during
13:37some of the segments, but like he misses a block that he owns up to after the game that
13:41led to the DeMarco DeMario Douglas fumble in 3019. I'm not saying you would have converted,
13:47but there was some grass that maybe would pop. If he makes a guy miss, maybe that's
13:51a crazy conversion and Kendrick Bourne had a better game, but even he just every single
13:55week is talking about how we didn't do something the right way. Mike and went to no pressures
13:59for the first time for him since like the first half of the season, really good game
14:03from him.
14:04I thought it was a good bounce back, but I'm just so confused when we keep hearing from
14:08veterans who seem like Dale Pettis had some mistakes yesterday. You don't hear me talking
14:12about Dale Pettis. I'm not throwing those guys under the rug. Like Leighton Robinson
14:15had a bit of a better game. He's holding, I'm not going to hold against him profoundly,
14:19but it's part of the narrative of how the offensive line held these guys back. Like
14:22I'm not here to really jump on the young guys. So we've heard like, yeah, there's new pieces.
14:28We got to get this guy's experience, but if it's not the coaching staff and what do these
14:32veterans need to do better? Is it just execution? Do you, are you not living up to your deal?
14:36Do you need to be benched? Where does the line get drawn? Cause that's where I just,
14:43I have so much trouble knowing where to assign blame because it's easy when I look at the
14:47tape and I say, well, you're not playing really well, but then you're saying, oh yeah, the
14:50coaches are preparing it. Okay. So why aren't you doing it?
14:53What's the disconnect? That's my other side to it where it's like, okay, well the players
14:57know that they're wrong and that they need to execute and they're being put in the right
15:00position. But why last year or the last 20 years here was you put where you put in the
15:06right position and executed it where now you're being told what to do, but it's just
15:11not happening. Right. And so that's kind of where maybe it is on the coaching where, yeah,
15:15they can tell you, but they're not teaching it right. Or they're not nailing it down in
15:19your head as well. Right, right. That's where, again, we don't know the answer, but that's
15:24the other side of it where even if they're putting them in the right spot, something's
15:27not clicking, something's not going the right way. So we're going to have to see what happens
15:31these next three weeks. Obviously bills twice, uh, chargers twice or charges once, not an
15:35easy task, but, uh, that's kind of what we're going to see or where we're going to have
15:38to see if it can improve on it. Uh, so we're going to get into some defensive stuff, some
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16:28And Taylor, I know we missed out on our Patriots lineup yesterday, but I hit Sunday night football,
16:34Rome, uh, Romeo Dobbs. I had him to go less than 40 and a half yards and he hit,
16:38and he had 40 yards. He had one, uh, final reception, like a 22 yard touchdown, but it
16:43only got him to 40. So I still hit on that one. And the second one, uh, who did the Packers play
16:48last night? What was my second? Uh, Seahawks. Oh, Seahawks. It was, uh, it was, uh, Jackson Smith
16:54and Jigma more than 65 and a half yards. He went off once again. He has been a really solid for
16:59that Seattle team. So we're on a little bit of a wind streak here. We'll have a couple
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17:18first $5 lineup prize picks run your game. All right, Taylor, let's get into it. Let's talk
17:24about this defense. And it's, you know, it's, I'm funny. It's funny because I'm reading our, uh,
17:30that was my bad. I'm reading our outline that we have. And basically the question is it's easy,
17:34but why is the defense bad? Right? Like what? And we just talked about it for the last couple
17:38of minutes with these quotes from the defenders, but 30 points allowed 10 to 15 on third down,
17:44they're allowing five yards of rush. Once again, James Connor, almost seven yards to carry 16,
17:4916 carries 110 yards, two touchdowns. What's going on on defense thing. Things are not right here.
17:54And you looked at the film. So tell us a little bit more about why and what's kind of going on.
17:58Yeah. So when you look at the numbers, Gerard Mayo mentioned how the third down really,
18:02they struggled on offense and defense. When we talk specifically about defense,
18:06one of the biggest reasons they struggled is the reason they've been struggling in some of
18:09their more recent games where they cannot create third and long situations. Now they were 10 or 15
18:16on third down against the Cardinals, the Patriots. So they allowed 10 conversions on 15, third down
18:21opportunities. Only one of those 15, third downs or third and seven or more. That is a really
18:28difficult place to live as a defense, because for the offense, basically, if you throw a check down
18:33and the defense isn't zoned and is actually bailed out, there's not a whole lot you can do.
18:37If it's a decent receiver who catches it and quickly is able to turn around for yards. Like
18:41you saw that with Kyle Duggar offering coverage, where he would drop back in zone. They would just
18:47throw right underneath them and he makes the tackle, but it's kind of tough to stop a guy
18:50when all he needs is a handful of yards. So that was one of the really big issues I saw.
18:55But also the reason they kept getting into those third imaginable situations, Arizona
19:01was because of the run defense. Rodney, who keeps bringing up, or at least this is the second time
19:06he has said specifically, if you take out this one explosive run, then everything looks different.
19:11And we know now it's become a joke that he keeps saying, if you take away this one thing,
19:14I understand sometimes when it's in terms of like one bad game in a stretch,
19:19I got it in that context. Cause really that dolphins game was a bit of an outlier because
19:24they had been showing progress and then kind of just fell off a cliff in that game.
19:28The runs are different though. Last time you said this was against the Texans when Joe Mixon ripped
19:32off to like 50 yard gains or whatever. It's not just that you even allow the 50 yard game. If you
19:38look at the efficiency numbers, the Patriots have still been giving up big plays at a pretty
19:43unacceptable level. And then you look at like, you know, you take out that one run for James
19:48Connor. He has 3.9 yards per carry James or I'm sorry, Jonathan Taylor. I think it was about the
19:53same. He had about 3.9 yards per carry. You're holding some of these great backs under four
19:57yards of pop. That's awesome. But they are getting enough yardage to stay on schedule.
20:02And I asked Rod Mayo about that. I was like, yeah, but are you okay with giving up, you know,
20:07just the body blows if it means that you're tightening up in the red zone, because I've
20:11said, I basically expect this to be a bend, but don't break defense. I don't think they're
20:14healthy enough or talented enough right now to be a truly locked down unit. You just have to be
20:18better in the red zone. But what we've seen is offense has consistently moved the ball against
20:23them and they have a hard time getting off the field. We're like last week or on Sunday, they
20:28forced a lot of field goals. They didn't break for a lot of the game in the middle, but they
20:32were still allowing these long, long drives. They ended up losing time of possession. Part of this
20:36is the offense, but the Patriots lose time of possession, 34 and eight seconds to 25 and 52
20:42seconds. Some other stats I'll throw out real quick. 6.3 yards was the average depth of tackle
20:48in week 15 against the Cardinals. That was the first game for the Patriots that that took place
20:52where it was deeper than 5.3 yards. So almost an entire yard deeper downfield. That's not just one
20:58run. That's being able to consistently move the ball, especially get moving up front. And then
21:03your linebackers and second level defenders having to make plays. They've had four or more missed
21:07tackles in three of their past four games. The only exception was week 13 against the Colts and
21:13they've missed, they missed six tackles. I'm sorry. In week 11 against the Rams. Also the most
21:19EPA per play they've allowed per rush by running backs in a game. And that wasn't just the big run.
21:25If you're talking about the big, significant carries, you're talking about the walk-in
21:28touchdowns, two of those. You're talking about the bounce run on Jelani to buy, and you're
21:32talking about the third down that ultimately closed the game. So now I'll pull up the freedom
21:37film real quick. So we have a better idea actually watching it, uh, of what exactly was going wrong
21:42because it was a whole lot for this run defense. One of them, Gerard Mayo mentioned, uh, when we
21:48spoke to him this morning, that one of the big issues was the fact that James Connors, 53 yard
21:53run, there were a couple of unblocked defenders who didn't make tackles that were expected of
21:57them, but I don't think that was the only issue you had. So if you're looking at the video right
22:01now, red means basically you were just unblocked. I count Kyle Duggar, although I don't think he had
22:06a great angle to begin with, but I think he kind of exacerbated it. Then yellow, basically you
22:10engage, but you didn't engage well. So you're going to see Keon White. He's going to slant inside,
22:15gets washed down way too far. He's not even competitive. Jelani to buy goes on the wrong
22:20shoulder when he initiates his block, creates a lane for the running back. Then Jabril Peppers,
22:25Christian Ellis, and Kyle Duggar all have an opportunity to make a tackle downfield.
22:30Peppers and Ellis both take pretty bad angles to start out. Kyle Duggar starts out a little
22:34flat and can't get there. Ends up being a long run where Kyle Duggar also initially misses a
22:39tackle. But then when you look at all of the plays where they allowed pretty significant
22:43yards that affected these EPA members, EPA, basically Jonah Williams, Jonah Williams.
22:48Thanks a lot for that guy there. But the EPA basically is just success rate and how successful
22:53a play was. When you look at the plays that really made a difference in this game, constantly you are
22:59seeing defenders like veterans, like Sony Taki Taki, Kyle Duggar, Jabril Peppers, sometimes
23:04Jonathan Jones, and even at times Jelani to buy either seeming like they didn't know where the
23:09ball was, where they're just like completely lost in space. It doesn't feel like the backside pursuit
23:15is what you'd be coaching. Considering we know they've been talking about gang tackles, everybody
23:19swarming of the football. I don't know a lot of defense that are known for swarming of the football
23:23that pull up when they're about like eight yards away from the ball carrier. Even if you're by the
23:27sideline, what would Bill Belichick preach? You always need to be around the ball because you
23:31never know when, you know, it'll pop up and end up in the end zone where an offensive lineman
23:36recovers it. Now that's just one example. And there are times where I try to be generous when
23:40I highlight the players who kind of were at fault in these plays, because sometimes you're tired and
23:45you are hurt. It's a business decision, sure. But like, I don't want to get on a guy. I don't know
23:50just because I'm not aware of his situation that the guy was really battling through something
23:54significant. And, you know, like Kyle Duggar on both of the touchdown runs, it seemed like he
23:59really wasn't trying very hard to fill the gap. May not have been his exact responsibility,
24:04but I feel like a guy who's known as an instinctive defender, a guy who's so aggressive
24:08firing downhill, you'd expect him to at least be more competitive. And he basically wound up
24:12standing up and kind of putting a shoulder into a blocker. So maybe I'm wrong on some of these plays
24:17and the effort was more acceptable to the coaching staff, but there were too many times where I'm
24:21looking and I'm saying, this doesn't look like the way you'd want them to play run defense.
24:25We're sure like here, Daniel Laquala gets blown out of this gap. Sometimes that's going to happen.
24:30It's ugly. And it's why I highlighted them there. Cause you don't want to end up on the ground
24:33against your double teams, but he holds up all against them sometimes. So the consistency is
24:37not there. It feels like the awareness isn't there. And the fundamentals, most importantly,
24:41we're not there throughout the game. And then when you also kind of stack on top of that,
24:46the past defense, I thought had some tough situations. Like, you know, there were times
24:50where Kyler Murray was able to find soft spots and zone, especially with Trey McBride a couple
24:55of times. They let them out of the pocket early, but I thought they pretty much did a good job
24:59keeping him hemmed in for the most part, considering Kyler Murray, such a good scrambler.
25:02But then you have like Jelani Tavai on the third downs. We're in coverage. They try the concepts
25:07to exploit him against James Conner. The first time, you know, James Conner is going to throw
25:12a stiff arm. You are coached in those situations. If a guy throws a stiff arm to knock it down or
25:17grab that arm and then pull him down, we've seen guys do it before. He didn't do it that time. And
25:22then in the red zone, you're running like a bat out of hell and you completely overrun your guy.
25:27He turns up field and converts in the red zone. I'm gonna turn into a scoring drive. So again,
25:31it just seems like these guys, especially veterans were Christian Ellis. I can give some,
25:36you know, I can give some slack. Yeah, sure. I can cut you some slack. Daniel equality,
25:41even though I think he's inconsistent and he's good. Okay. Sometimes you can cut them some slack,
25:45but it's really the guys that you rely on, like Peppers, Duggar and Tavai, where I'm saying this
25:49isn't remotely good enough. Even talkie talkie, like the guy missed all summer, a lot of the
25:53season. Maybe he just needs an entire summer to really get his head on. Right. But just a
25:58disappointing effort all around from the defense where, yeah, you could, but at the end of the day,
26:05you're also putting that defense in tough spots or putting your defense in tough spots by not
26:10creating negative plays, not creating enough sacks or enough pressure on Kyler Murray,
26:15where you're creating more of those tough situations where maybe you get a turnover
26:19where they play like on that interception that was overturned for BS reason. But, you know,
26:22we don't have to get into that for sure. No, a good breakdown. And I think that the main thing,
26:27my main takeaway is just like the lack of, like you said, gang tackling, get into the ball,
26:32aggressiveness, too many like attempted arm tackles in that, at least in that real right
26:38there. Kyle Duggar, not feeling on the goal line. Now, granted, there's one of them where
26:43James Connors already in the end zone by the time he goes to actually try and make a tackle.
26:46So again, you're going to let him walk by you. You're not going to let him hit you five yards
26:49in the end zone. Like that doesn't make sense, but the other, you don't let him. What I'm saying
26:53is if anything, you hit him. Yeah. You get in the end zone, but like make them pay, like show
26:59something. You don't want to stand up at some point. Don't literally just let them run you over
27:05to close the game. Like a third and five to actually end it where Jelani divide doesn't
27:09seem very interested taking on the block. You have really slow fills. Like that's the kind of
27:13thing where it's just like playing. Like you have some pride. And I just didn't think I saw that
27:17especially towards the end of the game. That's the kind of buy-in we talk about these last four
27:21weeks, the stuff that we highlighted Austin Hooper saying last week, where do you want to
27:24play these next four games for yourself and, and this, that, and the other, or this and yourself,
27:29excuse me, and your teammates, or do you just want to look forward to the off season?
27:33Some of those plays look like more like off season guys. So moving forward, let's go to
27:38something good on the defensive side. And that is number zero Christian Gonzalez
27:42locks down Marvin Harrison, Jr. I tweeted last night. He had Marvin Harrison, Jr.
27:46in hell for most of the game, six targets with him in coverage to receptions for
27:51Harrison, Jr. for force incompletions. The big one, in my opinion, the one in the end zone,
27:55where it looked like he was beat by Harrison for a second, stays in, it stays in pursuit,
28:00sticks a hand in there and knocks it out of bounds. Christian Gonzalez is one of the best
28:04corners in football point black, but break it down a little bit. Tell us what you saw from
28:07Gonzo, the technique and how he continues to impress weekend and week out. Yeah. I mean,
28:13Marvin Harrison, Jr. We have the discussions before the draft, right? To the Patriots,
28:17take the receiver because they don't have, you know, the quarterback. Maybe you just give them
28:20a good supporting cast before you get the quarterback or just get the quarterback.
28:23Cause you can never predict what those classes are going to look like after this game,
28:27not just after this game, but I'm thinking the Patriots made the right choice because
28:31this was not a particularly close matchup. Now the Cardinals were able to get Gonzalez
28:35a couple of times with some scheme separation, right? There was the pick play early on where
28:39after looking at it, there really wasn't anything Gonzalez could have done because
28:43he went underneath because there were two defenders over top. If he goes over,
28:47he runs into everybody. There's no one to even chase down Marvin Harrison, Jr.
28:51There was another time where they managed to scheme, scheme, some separation for Harrison,
28:54Jr. They didn't target him. And then another one where Harrison went in motion across the
28:58formation, ran a comeback, and then Christian Gonzalez gives up the catch. But really those
29:03were the only ones. There was another one that Keon White freshly turned into a sack
29:07where Harrison, Jr. In the slot did have a really nice seam route against Gonzalez.
29:11Might've been a big play for the Cardinals. Had Kyler Murray been able to throw that ball,
29:15really had the patience to let it rip. But Gonzo, man, throwing at him deep is one of the craziest
29:21strategies I've ever seen where. And Kyler kept doing it. He kept being like, I trust my guy.
29:26I'm going to give him a shot. And every time I was like, why are you throwing there, dude?
29:30And on third downs, especially you're talking critical moments where you're like, yeah,
29:33let me throw it in one of the best players in the NFL, much less on the Patriots defense. So
29:39yeah, Christian Gonzalez, the most impressive one obviously was the breakup right before halftime.
29:44The second time in three plays that Kyler Murray targeted him on a fade route.
29:49Marvin Harrison, Jr. Does do a nice job off the line of scrimmage, creating some separation.
29:53But Gonzo never, ever panics. The man just waited until he saw the receiver's eyes open,
29:59see those hands. Once the ball arrived, he punched it out as Harrison, Jr. Was going to the ground.
30:04One of the more impressive plays also was the third time the Patriots tried to pick off
30:09Christian Gonzalez on a mesh concept. You saw him literally on Harrison, Jr.'s hip running
30:15stride for stride with him, giving up zero separation. So we've seen that throughout the
30:19season where Gonzo, if you try the same thing on him multiple times, you're going to see him adjust
30:24like we saw against the Colts where Alec Pierce, he ran an in-breaker earlier. Gonzo gave up too
30:28much space. The next time, as soon as he saw the route declared, he sped underneath it,
30:33undercut it for an interception. So just the latest in a Pro Bowl All-Pro season or what
30:39should be a Pro Bowl All-Pro season for Christian Gonzalez, man, he just continues to be outstanding
30:43and be one of the few reasons you actually have hope for the Patriots down the stretch.
30:48I just got a notification from NFL, the NFL app on my phone, and it says like the latest Pro Bowl
30:53voting, whatever. And I'm trying to get it to load to see if Gonzo's in there at all. I apparently,
30:58I forget who tweeted it yesterday. Someone Patriots related that he's like not even in the
31:03top 10. I don't know if it's not the top 10 in his position or defense. I forgot what it was, but
31:08he's got to be up there for Pro Bowl. He was stingly in the AFC, insert hand, insert hand.
31:11Yeah. The thing about the Pro Bowl is it's all a lot of fan voting where I think All-Pro wise,
31:17it's sort of more reporter base and people who are kind of watching a lot of the game. So I
31:22think that he'll have a chance there. I mean, shit, he's one of the, he's one of the best
31:26corners in the AFC, undoubtedly. Hopefully he deserves his, gets his flowers, at least second
31:31team All-Pro because again, dominant stuff. And I like you mentioned, I like how you mentioned
31:35that mesh concept where they picked him off early, Marvin Harrison gets the big gain.
31:39And then later on, he reads it, he follows it. And he's like, I'm not letting this guy beat me
31:44across the middle again, even if I'm going to get picked here for a second, he turns on the jets,
31:48stays with them. Really impressive stuff. I, I said it last night. I tweeted it during the
31:51game where you got two guys on each side or you have one guy on each side of the ball.
31:55It's 10 and it's zero. And it makes, it makes watching football, Patriots football,
32:01a little bit fun when you can watch Drake Maine, you can watch Christian Gonzalez in times like
32:06this, where you still come out of the game and it's like, we have two guys who can be perennial
32:11pro bowlers, all bros on this team. Now you got to fill out the rest of this stuff. But again,
32:15really good stuff from Christian Gonzalez. All right, let's talk about the offense here,
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33:53What time is it Taylor? Good answer. Because last night I didn't want you to do the game time
33:58because we were so mad, but we're going to take out the bad offense here for a second.
34:03We're going to talk about actually, no, we're not. We're going to do third down first. I forgot. So
34:07I'm still glad I had you say game time because game time is the best, but we're going to start
34:11with the batter and offense. We're going to get to, to, uh, to, to good, to two good things.
34:16I can't talk right now, but anyway, offense, 17 points scored two touchdowns down the stretch
34:21outside of that. Not great. Oh, and six on third down Taylor. What happened?
34:27Yeah. So this is another one to draw Mayo pointed out. Yeah. We were really bad on third and six.
34:32Well, very similar to the situation on defense where early down defense and their inability
34:37to stop the Cardinals really hurt them on third down, created a lot of third manageable situations.
34:42Patriots offense had the opposite problem where they had struggles on early downs.
34:46They created a lot of third and long situations. When I went back and looked, they actually only
34:52had a couple of situations, all game on third down of the six. I'm sorry. Um, I think three of
34:58them were third and 10 plus, and four of them were third and seven or more. They had two third and
35:03short situations. Didn't convert either. One was the one on the goal line. And then another was a
35:08play action opportunity that they, uh, Drake may ended up trying to run for it on a play action
35:13where they try to get aggressive from Andre Stevenson does a great job of reading on the
35:16fourth and one on the next play. But why exactly did they struggle? Because when you look at their
35:21efficiency, once again, the Patriots actually weren't bad. They did have some really bad three
35:26and outs, but then when you look at the tape, just like we thought during the game, what were the
35:30primary issues? It was the offensive line and it wasn't Mike and when Mike and when he went, I
35:35thought had a really good game. It wasn't even really Trey. Jacobs was Ben Brown. It was Darian
35:40low more than anyone. And at times it was also Lady Robinson. So just throwing it up on the screen
35:46right now. So late in Robinson, his biggest issue was the hold. Obviously that created a
35:52situation where put the Patriots back, they get a penalty, but still they go to the conservative
35:57play call to try to get themselves just in the field goal range. One of the things we highlighted
36:01kind of previewing this game over on Pat's feet was that the Cardinals, as you can see there,
36:05have a ton of really exotic pressure packages where you don't know how many they're going to
36:09send. You don't know where it's coming from. So maybe early on, I don't really blame the
36:14Patriots for saying, Hey, let's just get ourselves some points on the board. We wanted to start with
36:18possession. It's probably better if we can at least get a field goal rather than maybe risking
36:22it. I know I said I wanted them to be aggressive and I think at points they were, but at that
36:27juncture I was like, you know what, whatever, get yourself some points. Unfortunately didn't work
36:31out because Joey slide ended up missing it. But then you have a daring low two different series
36:35that were basically ended because he had his assignment, give up first contact on negative
36:42plays. Now, one of them, I do think Antonio Gibson probably ran too fast and kind of hurt the
36:47blocking scheme a little bit, but there were times where the dairy and low just didn't seem
36:51to get maybe out of the stands quite quickly enough. Or I'm not sure if he was really keen
36:56in on what exactly, I don't know, he was supposed to do on the assignment. It was just kind of
36:59bizarre. Like the quality of losses he had were ones we don't see from him very consistently,
37:05but the inconsistency still showed up where, yeah, maybe you're not getting the priest and
37:09that penalties, but it's every week we're talking about something with the dairy and low
37:12Ben Brown. It was the two low snaps. The first one, Drake may brought in, he handled it pretty well.
37:17The second one completely blew up a third down drop back opportunity where they might've been
37:22able to convert, but obviously we don't know because it took Drake may so long to get it.
37:26Plus I think this is actually the play late in, Oh, this isn't it. But late in Robinson also gave
37:30up a twist that wound up kind of screwing them. And even if I think Drake may got the ball,
37:35he would have had to deal with a looper in his face pretty quickly. Also, we talk about the
37:40short yardage situations where everyone is saying, Hey, Drake may just QB sneak or zone reader uses
37:46legs. Could that have helped? Absolutely. But Drake may even defended Alex van Pelt saying,
37:50I mean, honestly, I get why they don't want to run me. That's what I said last night.
37:54Maybe I didn't phrase it very well because I called it a relatively meaningless snap,
37:57but we're talking about a season that you're not going to make the playoffs.
38:01Like I mentioned last night, if Drake may gets hurt because you wanted to design run him,
38:05then that's where I think you start getting a lot of backlash. I don't blame them.
38:08I'm more upset that on both of those short yardage plays first, it was, I think,
38:13late in Robinson and then Baderian low whiffed on their blocks. It allowed penetration. They
38:17kind of messed up the rest of the blocking scheme and threw everything off. Like I said,
38:21last night, you need to get a yard. If you can't do it two plays in a row, that's on you.
38:26And that's on your personnel. Now, like you said, middle to left, you're hoping next talk next
38:31season, you have a different starting combination, but that really was what I saw. They kept putting
38:36the Patriots behind the eight ball. It was Baderian low, letting up negative plays. It was
38:40late in Robinson, you know, being inconsistent as you expect from a young guy, but still it
38:45exacerbates it more when he's not the only one who's making these mistakes, the short yardage
38:49failures, and even Kendrick Bourne, like I mentioned earlier, he misses a block. His guy
38:54that he was supposed to block ends up forcing a forced fumble onto Mario Douglas. Kendrick looks
38:58good during the live broadcast because he recovers it and it looks like a really heads up play,
39:02but we're seeing it right here. His guy triggers downhill, doesn't think that he's an issue.
39:07And then it's a bad play that maybe potentially could have given you a chance to convert. So
39:12we can talk about the third downs all we want, but I don't think, I think you're kind of bouncing
39:16around with the main issue was the main issue was that your offensive line consistently is holding
39:20you back. Now, I don't know how much we can expect from this offensive line. We know the
39:25Cole strange, maybe he enters the lineup this week. Uh, Gerard Mayo said he just wasn't ready
39:29this week. Maybe that helps a little bit, you know, maybe if a Darien low kind of gets it
39:33together and is more consistent either way. I do not see how the next three weeks are going to show
39:39you enough that unless Cole strange plays really well, obviously you're not very worried about the
39:43inside to left side of your offensive line or at the very least left guard and left tackle.
39:48I'm thinking Cam Robinson and Trey Smith, like throw the bag at those guys because
39:52your investments are a Drake may remind Ray Stevenson and not so much,
39:56but Antonio Gibson, as we're going to talk about later has been your most explosive skill player.
40:01You need to make sure you are supporting those guys and giving them the ability to play their
40:04best football. And that's not happening with the offensive line play that we saw yesterday
40:08or have really seen in a lot of recent games. A hundred percent. I mean, Drake may is Drake
40:13may is the investment for the team right now, even if he's cheap right now on a rookie deal.
40:17So you need to, I don't know how much I buy into the theory of, uh, you know,
40:22making sure that like your super bowl window is your rookie quarterbacks, rookie contract. I don't
40:28buy that necessarily as much as I did a couple of years ago. Like when Seattle was able to do
40:31it with Russell Wilson, kind of going off on a tangent here, but you need to invest around him
40:36as well. Right. You can't just think, Oh, we have Drake may that's it. He's the future. And
40:41we say that a lot on the show because he's a really good football player.
40:45And I think they know that too. I think that they're, they do mean it when they say they want
40:50to move around a hundred percent. And I think that's what takes this to the next level where,
40:54I mean, great. Drake may is awesome. And he looks like, it looks like it could be a fringe top 10
40:58quarterback as soon as next year. Right. But when you're three and 11 and you can't win football
41:03games and the flashes we see are only towards the back end of the game, where they go down on those
41:08two touchdown runs, those two scoring drives, you need to put more around them. It starts with the
41:12offensive line. And like you said, the investment in Ramondre Stevenson too, you gave him a four
41:16year extension this off season. So you got to build around those guys, but even with these
41:21struggles, Taylor, the running backs did pretty well. You said, we're going to mention it. Let's
41:25talk about it right now. Antonio Gibson, Ramondre Stevenson looked like they got,
41:29Patriots looked like they got the running backs back 20 carries, 102 yards, just over five yards
41:34of pot. I'm reading some of your stats here too. Four explosive runs for Ramondre and Antonio
41:40Gibson, excuse me, for seven missed tackles. So what'd you see from those guys? I think still
41:45everyone sort of agrees that they need to get Antonio Gibson involved even more down the stretch.
41:49Like even yesterday was an uptick and that wasn't enough. Like he's a really damn good football
41:54player. Hopefully he can come back next year and we'll see what goes with that. But talk to me about
41:58Gibson and Ramondre and what they did yesterday. Yeah, absolutely. So I'm going to play the clips
42:03and then I'm going to read off some fun stats. So those four explosive runs for Ramondre Stevenson,
42:07those were tied for the most for a Patriots running back in a single game this season.
42:11All right. Now he's tied with his first game against the Bengals. Also something he hadn't
42:15done against the Bengals. He had the most yards after contact per rush since that opening day
42:19game. That was 4.2 yards. To be honest, I didn't think Ramondre consistently made guys miss the way
42:25we expected him. I do still think he's having trouble being that same level of elusiveness,
42:30but really impressive on that pitch where he made a couple guys miss.
42:34Also, there was a run where he got backfield penetration, still managed to keep his balance
42:38and broke off an explosive run. So I really liked what I saw from Ramondre Stevenson.
42:42He looked really good on the shotgun. They tried some trap runs where you get a guard pulling all
42:46the way to the edge defender and then under center on those outside zone carries. That's
42:50where he seems to be most effective when he is running outside zone. Man, Antonio Gibson,
42:55like you said, man, he's been a freaking monster. He's averaged one missed tackle per rush for two
43:00games in a row now. Was really good against the Colts like we mentioned after that game.
43:04Also, he for seven missed tackles on runs in week 15. That was tied for the most for a Patriots
43:10running back since Ramondre Stevenson. He had 10 in the opener, which is an insane number,
43:15especially when you also also didn't realize that I want to correct myself. I said, hopefully,
43:20Gibson comes back next year. I got him and Hooper confused on a three year deal,
43:24so he's going to be here. I didn't realize that. OK, and that's part of why I say like you invest
43:28in the running backs, because honestly, Cooper, a guy who we think is going to get re signed
43:32when you look at the Patriots offense down the spine type that looks good. Hunter Henry and
43:36Austin Hooper. You'd like some more youth there. You'd like to see more from Jaheim Bell,
43:40but they've been really good in that tight end room, especially with the two older guys.
43:44Ramondre Stevenson and Antonio Gibson are now showing you what they can do once, especially
43:49like these guys are running behind Mike and went to a little bit behind Trey Jacobs. Ben Brown had
43:54some good blocks in there as well, and Austin Hooper has been pretty fantastic as a blocker.
43:57When they run behind those guys, good things happen. If you add a Trey Smith to help out
44:02at Cam Robinson and then David Andrews or Cole Strange, I think that could further improve your
44:06run game. So when I mentioned that investment, this is why, because these are the guys that
44:11are consistently showing up for you where the run game has been good for over a month for the
44:15Patriots right now. And again, a lot of that's Mike and when you a lot of that's the chemistry
44:19that he's built between Ben Brown and Trey Jacobs, but also Antonio Gibson looks fresh.
44:24He's got guys are bouncing off of him. He can't go down. Ramondre hasn't been that same guy,
44:29but Gibson who Alex Van Pelt said has a very similar skill set to Stevenson has been that
44:35elusive kind of presence for you. And even this catch where Drake Mays in a tight pocket,
44:39tries to get the ball out. It's behind Gibson. Can't sit with one hand. That's not the first
44:42time he's made an impressive grab like that. Would I like to see him actually get targeted
44:47more in creative ways in the passing game? Yes, of course. But at least as a running back,
44:51the position that you expect him to kind of feel as a runner, he's actually starting to look good.
44:56So I really liked what I saw from the back. We'll talk about Drake May, obviously,
44:59but everybody in the Patriots backfield, I thought really impressed, especially given
45:03their offensive line didn't always help them out. You know, for the most part,
45:08looking at some of these, these plays on film too, with Gibson, like he just,
45:12he makes guys miss. He runs through guys. He runs around guys. He's breaking that one.
45:16He didn't break off, but the one, a couple, a couple of plays ago where he's just down the
45:20sideline making people miss. It's, it's good that again, like I said, they're,
45:25they're getting in the ball now down the stretch, but this is the kind of like,
45:28I want it even more like, and not that he's going to take away starting reps from
45:31remandre or anything, but he was both of these guys use that pony package.
45:35I remember last year, we were talking about pony with, with Zeke and remandre a couple of times.
45:39And it's like, use both these guys on the field. We talked about it this off season,
45:42when they signed Gibson, use them as a wide receiver. He played wide receiver in college,
45:47like get more creative with him. I think they're starting to do that. And I think it's good to see.
45:51And the fact that they haven't locked up for another two years is is good stuff for the
45:55running back room as well. So you mentioned Drake may in the backfield, we're going to close it with
46:00this. We are going to do a more in-depth break film breakdown on Drake may coming up tomorrow.
46:06So make sure you keep it here. You keep it locked in for that, but just quickly
46:09on Drake may we'll close it out with this. They go two for three in the red zone. Obviously
46:13down the stretch was the bread and butter where he had the passing touchdown to pop.
46:17And then the Russian touchdown at the end of the game, but overall Drake may goes 19
46:22of 23 for 202 yards, a touchdown and interception to K Sean booty, which wasn't his fault.
46:28And then he has the Russian touchdown. So what'd you see for may overall,
46:31what can we look forward to in tomorrow's more in-depth film breakdown about the rookie?
46:36Yeah. So this was actually one of Drake may's best games. He said career highs,
46:39a completion percentage. He said career highs and yards per attempt. It was like 80% second
46:45game in a row. These completed 80% or more of his passes. Now part of that is because
46:50it's averaged up to target. Both of those days was just under 6.5, but in the last game,
46:55he actually did throw down field. He had to throw it at Kendrick Ford. He had to throw
46:59to Austin Hooper. And what I really loved about those plays were they weren't just,
47:03Oh, I'm throwing to this wide open void. Like you still saw the pieces of Drake may,
47:07or he's making a lot of these things happen. We're like with Kendrick Ford,
47:10that was a really tight window. It was just a moon ball. And the only place
47:13his receiver could be the only one to catch it. The slanty K Sean booty, when they started that
47:18late surge in the fourth quarter, where just couldn't get anything going consistently,
47:23where they actually turned it into points. You saw, all right, Drake may using some tempo,
47:28really feel like he was locking in controlling the offense. He either pumped a defender or saw
47:33that DeMario Douglas was covered and immediately went backside to K Sean booty. Then the deep
47:38throw to Kendrick Ford, then Austin Hooper, the downfield throw to him. The most impressive thing
47:44is Austin Hooper was open, but it was because Drake may looked off the defender who was kind
47:49of in the seam area. He shoots to the flat because he thinks that Drake's going to throw there
47:54because that's where his body opened up as Drake's throwing. You see that his body language is
47:58actually going Hooper, extremely impressive play from him there. Then there were also another
48:03couple of plays. I like, I just lost my place in our notes. Let me get back to those, but also
48:08made up for times where it seemed like the rookies weren't in the right places where Jalen Polk
48:13and Austin Hooper wind up in the same place on the first draft back of the game.
48:16Drake may doesn't panic. He throws short to Hunter Henry. Then you see later in the game,
48:21Austin Hooper winds up in the same area as Jaheim Bell. It's hard to know exactly who's wrong,
48:26but Austin Hooper being in the league as long as he has being in an AVP offense before,
48:30then you have Polk and Bell who struggled all year. My money's on the young guys had
48:34some issues on those plays, but on that one, where Bell and Hooper were in the same area,
48:39Drake may says, you know what? That's fine. I'm just going to run out and get a positive game.
48:42Then in the red zone, the first time the Patriots have actually been good in the red zone since all
48:46the way back in week nine, of course, it's in a game where they struggled to actually get into
48:50the red zone consistently before the end of the game. But Drake may make it as magic on the first
48:55play, looks, let's sees that it's pretty tight. No really good options. Brace the pocket because
49:00he's got a lane puts to Mario Douglas's defender in a position where he basically can't win.
49:04Cause he says, all right, either you cover pop and I'm going to run in right in front of you,
49:08or you can try to stop me. And then you forget I'm Drake May. I'm just going to flick it to pop.
49:14Finally, some good work from pop on scramble drill too.
49:17Yes. Also going to get because Kendrick Bourne fell down. The reason was like,
49:21oh, are you okay? It didn't turn around. So that kind of worked in the past favor.
49:25And then the touchdown run for Drake may, where he sees that the edge defender
49:29goes to peel off, which Michael Hastings, once he leaves the backfield it's cover zero,
49:33there's a free rusher inside Drake goes, all right, fine. I'm just going to exploit the soft
49:37edge and run in for a touchdown. Again, we will break down these plays a little bit more depth.
49:41Tomorrow. We're also going to pick out some plays where maybe Drake could have been a little bit
49:45better, but it's going to be pretty nitpicky because for the second game in a row, very little
49:50a critique from Drake May's game. It was the throw to Keishon booty kind of seemed like he
49:54might've forced it predetermined read a couple of throws that were behind the receiver, but
49:59no quarterback has a perfect game. And when I look at the decisions from Drake May,
50:02there really weren't a lot of times where I'm thinking, ah, should have got the ball out there.
50:06Miss this read here or there. I really thought he continued to impress,
50:09really have his eyes in the same place, make the throws he had to make and avoid potentially
50:13negative points. And even on the misses too, it's, we talked about all the turnover worthy play or
50:19the idea of missing a throw versus it being a turnover worthy play. Like I, I, uh, I pulled
50:24the clip of his one target to poke that we couldn't think of last night on the show. And it
50:28was that corner, uh, that sort of sale corner route where Buddha Baker was on him. He didn't
50:32put it on poke, but he basically just threw it away. It didn't put the ball away. I think it was
50:37a throwaway. I saw you post it and I was like, he hesitates before he throws it. Right. I think he
50:42was like, I'd rather just not take a chance. Cause you see that like with my homes, you'll see when
50:47he sales it to somebody, a lot of the time it's cause he wasn't exactly sure where the guy was.
50:52And so even that is impressive to me where instead of putting the ball on your rookie,
50:58who for lack of a better word has not been good this year in jail and poke with Buddha Baker,
51:02one of the best safeties of football hanging over them. You might've had a little bit of a,
51:06an opportunity to throw it in there, stick it in there, but better off throwing it away sometimes
51:09instead of putting it at harm's way. Um, so again, good stuff. Like the, the six games in a
51:14row with an interception, a lot of these throws, man, like the one yesterday, not really his fault.
51:19Uh, not his fault at all. It's just like, it wasn't a turnover worthy play. It was just
51:24maybe, you know, could have been placed better. Cause like it was low on booty. It wasn't a
51:28short, even if yes, he was throwing away from coverage. It could have been a better throw,
51:32but you'd also like your receivers to make up for it because most of the time you're putting it right
51:36on. And then it's like, even if it's going to bounce off your hands, bounce straight into the
51:39ground, don't bounce up in the air to somebody else. So some, some tough ball out there, but we
51:44talked about it last night too, when you're three and 11, you're not going to have much good luck,
51:47but again, overall impressive stuff from Drake. Hopefully they continue to build it around him
51:51down the stretch. So we'll break that down a little bit further in detail detail tomorrow.
51:55We'll go over some of Drake Mays performance in a film review against Arizona. Uh, and that's
52:01going to do it for us here, Taylor for this Monday edition of Patriots daily going through
52:06what happened last night in Arizona, again, Patriots fall two, three, and 11 after a 30 to 17
52:12loss to the Cardinals. We'll be back tomorrow. Like I said, for Drake May, uh, and then Wednesday
52:17through Friday back as they get ready for the Buffalo bills, which again, if you didn't hear me
52:21earlier, uh, they did get flexed to four 25 on Sunday at Highmark stadium. So until next time,
52:27thank you guys so much for tuning in. We appreciate you guys hanging every single day here with us
52:31on Patriots daily Taylor. Good job. Thanks for breaking it all down for us. Take care of
52:35yourselves, take care of each other, and we will see you next time. Thank you all for watching.