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00:00This program is brought to you by DAREGA KAITON NEN, the book that changed the world in just two days.
00:17So, where are we starting today?
00:19Today, we're at the Opera Buff in Shinjuku, Tokyo.
00:23It's got a certain vibe to it.
00:25The way the light is shining is very stylish.
00:27It's the right way to film, right?
00:29It's like a recital hall.
00:31What's outside?
00:33This isn't a regular bookstore.
00:35It's a piano.
00:37And there's a seat.
00:39As the name suggests, there's an opera practice room.
00:43It's a rare bookstore that also hosts opera performances.
00:47There's a bookshelf behind the practice room, right?
00:50Is that for sale?
00:52No, it's not.
00:53Oh, it's not for sale.
00:54There's also a section for selling books.
00:56There's a possibility that you can hear opera rehearsals.
00:59That's amazing.
01:00There's a possibility that Morikumi-san is in there.
01:04There's a section for selling books.
01:06There are more than 500 books related to opera.
01:09And the owner's hand-made costumes are stored at the Gunma factory.
01:15There are more than 1,000 of them.
01:17So that's how it used to be.
01:19Yes, that's how it used to be.
01:20But the bookstore is the main business.
01:23The bookstore is the main business.
01:25The owner's hand-made costumes are stored at the Gunma factory.
01:27Yes, the owner's hand-made costumes.
01:28I didn't know there was an opera practice room like this in Arashi.
01:32It's not Yakusho Kouji-san, is it?
01:33Which one?
01:34The one next to Arashi.
01:35Then the main business is here.
01:36What do you mean?
01:37The main business can't be the bookstore.
01:39Then the main business is here.
01:41It's a different bookstore.
01:42Yes.
01:43And this week, it's here.
01:44Yes.
01:45It's a village.
01:46You're good.
01:47It's Kouji-san's village.
01:49Yes, yes.
01:51Usually, we have a talk show.
01:54But today, we're going to move around.
01:56We're going to move around.
01:57We can't keep up with the camera.
01:58We're going to move around.
01:59I'd like to ask you to sit down.
02:02If that's the case.
02:03The other day, I was on a different show.
02:05This was already decided.
02:07I asked him to speak.
02:09And he said,
02:10Yes.
02:12It's amazing that he can speak.
02:1536 years of experience.
02:17He played a big role in the new Yoshimoto play.
02:20It's a book about Tamayo Shimada's life.
02:24It's a book about his life.
02:29But the book is thin.
02:31Don't say that.
02:33There are a lot of pictures.
02:35The book is thin.
02:40Ah, boing, boing, boing.
02:42Yes, I'm Tamayo.
02:44I don't know where the camera is.
02:46Tamayo's boobs.
02:47I'm kidding.
02:50Yes, boing, boing, boing.
02:54Boing, boing, boing.
02:57Like this.
02:58Yes, yes.
03:03If you leave it for 20 minutes,
03:05you can continue for 20 minutes.
03:07I think you can do it in the second half.
03:10Boing, boing, boing.
03:14Again,
03:15the self-introduction has begun.
03:17Are you ready?
03:18Yes.
03:19Hello, hello.
03:20I'm Tamayo Shimada,
03:21the playwright of Yoshimoto.
03:24I'm not in the picture.
03:26I'm not in the picture.
03:27I'm not in the picture.
03:28Please leave it as it is.
03:30Please leave it as it is.
03:32You may not be in the picture at all.
03:35Please stay here.
03:38From here to there?
03:40Yes, from here to there.
03:41My dance will be all bad.
03:43If it's bad.
03:45So you can do it?
03:46I can't do it.
03:47I see.
03:50Sorry.
03:52I'm doing it on top.
03:57I ask this every time.
03:59What is your name?
04:02Don't ask.
04:03I'm Yoshimoto Shinkeiki.
04:06I'm Yoshimoto Shinkeiki.
04:08I'm doing it on purpose.
04:12I want to be in the picture soon.
04:16That's amazing.
04:18That's amazing.
04:19There is a very cute fairy
04:24named Sekirara.
04:27But this book is Sekirara.
04:29Ouch!
04:30Don't shake it yourself.
04:32I know.
04:33I'm sure I wrote it myself.
04:35If there is an interviewer, it's impossible.
04:37It's impossible.
04:38Sometimes there is an interview book.
04:41It's impossible.
04:42I wrote it myself.
04:44The publisher took it.
04:46How old were you in 1936?
04:51I was 17 years old.
04:53That's a long time ago.
04:54High school?
04:55It was 4 o'clock when I was in high school.
04:59Is that so?
05:01Is it the same as Hanako Yamada?
05:05No, it's not.
05:07It's totally different.
05:08But isn't it the same?
05:10Is that so?
05:11Is it a reverse formation?
05:13Is it a reverse formation?
05:15What are you doing?
05:17Did all the high school students at that time watch Yojidesu Yodan?
05:21They all watched it.
05:23It became a hot topic.
05:26When I went to the nearest station,
05:28all the high school students were there.
05:34Was it bright when you were a student?
05:37Not at all.
05:39It became bright when I was in the 2nd grade of elementary school.
05:42I was in the 1st and 2nd grade of kindergarten.
05:44I was a quiet girl.
05:46You looked like a good girl.
05:49You looked like a good hostess.
05:52You never spoke.
05:53What made you change?
05:55I started to do calligraphy at the age of 4.
05:57My mother was also a calligrapher.
06:00It was amazing.
06:02My sister and I were called the Shimada brothers of Oni.
06:06We held a competition.
06:09Was it strict?
06:10It was strict before the competition.
06:12If I couldn't write well, I had to eat.
06:15I sat down and wrote.
06:18I was hungry and I was scolded.
06:20I cried.
06:22I wrote the word YUME.
06:25It's not YUME.
06:26It's Iramyo.
06:28It was blurred.
06:30My father said to my mother.
06:33Let me eat.
06:35My mother said no.
06:37What did your father do?
06:38My father ran a liquor store.
06:42Self-sustaining business.
06:44He was good at making jokes.
06:46Your father?
06:47Was your father bright?
06:49My father was very bright.
06:50When I joined YOSHIMOTO.
06:52My father was also interesting.
06:54Many people came to the liquor store.
06:58When I came to the store, my father said,
07:01This is a bad joke.
07:03Did your father come to the liquor store?
07:07That's right.
07:08My father was beaten.
07:11Did your father beat you?
07:13Did your father beat you?
07:15He was a young comedian.
07:17I thought it would be okay.
07:19When I ate, my father said,
07:21Was your father okay?
07:23He said that.
07:25My father was very delicious.
07:30He is a man of Osaka.
07:33Your mother was strict.
07:35That's right.
07:36You have been doing calligraphy since you were 4 years old.
07:38Why did you change the weather?
07:41I was a child who couldn't speak.
07:43I started to do calligraphy when I was in the second grade.
07:46At school.
07:47When I was doing calligraphy,
07:49My grandfather's teacher came in.
07:53My grandfather turned my book 360 degrees.
08:00He said, This is it!
08:02This is my life!
08:04I'm sorry.
08:06Did you feel confident when you were announced?
08:10That's right.
08:11I felt confident.
08:13Was it quiet in the classroom?
08:15It was very quiet.
08:17I couldn't speak.
08:19From there, I started to do calligraphy.
08:23What are you trying to do now?
08:25This is the end of Ken Shimura.
08:27This is the end of Ken Shimura.
08:29It's like a painting.
08:33I'm going down the stairs.
08:35I'm going down the stairs.
08:43I understand.
08:45I used it in the opening.
08:47I recorded it and put it in water.
08:51I put cream on the cake and washed it.
08:55I took a picture.
08:57You imitated it?
08:59Yes.
09:00Did you suddenly start to imitate it?
09:02Yes.
09:03You don't look like an elementary school student.
09:06Ken Shimura.
09:08I started to do various things.
09:10I started to do parody of the popular one.
09:13Did you pass the exam?
09:15I passed the exam and became popular.
09:18When I was in high school, I became a high school girl again.
09:21You were the most popular.
09:23You didn't care about the reputation of boys.
09:25That's right.
09:26I was in the old class.
09:28I was in the old class during the break.
09:30All of them?
09:32I was in the old class.
09:33You were in the old class with a boy.
09:36I was in the old class with a teacher.
09:39I was in the old class with a teacher.
09:41You were in the old class with a teacher.
09:43I think you are laughing at your classmate at that time.
09:51Wait a minute.
09:52Wait a minute.
09:53I'm still in the first class.
09:55I'm sorry.
09:57I'm sorry.
09:59I'm sorry.
10:01I have something to ask you.
10:04You wrote about love.
10:06I remember that.
10:08How old were you when you first met a man?
10:14I was 26 years old.
10:16I was 26 years old.
10:18Can I ask you?
10:19I was 26 years old.
10:21It's a real age.
10:23I was 26 years old.
10:25What happened to you when you were 26 years old?
10:28I was in the new class.
10:33When Hanako Yamada came in,
10:36I was a third actress.
10:40But I was a natural.
10:43I was like Jimmy or Hanako.
10:46I couldn't win anyway.
10:48At that time, I thought so.
10:51I was a little funny.
10:56You should push me today.
11:00I will push you today.
11:02I will push you today.
11:04You have a lot of free time.
11:06I will try to lose weight.
11:10I'm writing a script here.
11:14I'll make it bigger.
11:16I'll do it normally.
11:19I'll learn more acting.
11:22There is a senior named Kazuo Kuwabara.
11:25She is my grandmother.
11:27I saw her from her sleeve.
11:30I decided to fall in love with her.
11:33You decided to fall in love with her.
11:37Hanako didn't have that feeling at that time.
11:41Who did you fall in love with?
11:43She is an AD.
11:45Is it a new play?
11:46At that time, I went to the street with a police officer.
11:50I talked to the people in the city.
11:53Is it a TV program?
11:55She is an AD.
11:57I was forced to eat rice for the third time.
12:01I was forced to eat rice for the third time.
12:06I was forced to eat rice for the third time.
12:09Is that Ishida Yasushi?
12:12That's not it.
12:16He is doing something strange.
12:18I was forced to kiss him.
12:22Is that your first kiss?
12:24I was forced to kiss him.
12:26I was asked to go to his house.
12:35I said, I can't go.
12:37I said, I can't go.
12:39I was forced to kiss him.
12:44You are quiet.
12:47You are quiet.
12:49I was forced to kiss him.
12:53I said, I can't go.
12:56I said, I can't go.
12:59I opened the door.
13:02I opened the door.
13:05I was forced to kiss him.
13:08He came in slowly.
13:12I was forced to kiss him.
13:14I was forced to kiss him.
13:19I was forced to kiss him.
13:22I was forced to kiss him.
13:26I was forced to kiss him.
13:31I didn't have a cell phone.
13:34I went to his house.
13:37He didn't come out.
13:39I married a staff member of Yoshimoto.
13:47I married a staff member of Yoshimoto.
13:50I married a staff member of Yoshimoto.
13:53I told him that I was not good friends with him.
13:56I told him that I was not good friends with him.
14:01I asked him if he could call me.
14:07I asked him if he could call me.
14:11I didn't call him.
14:14I said, I'm sorry.
14:16I said, I'm sorry.
14:18I said, I'm sorry.
14:20I said, I'm sorry.
14:24I did a lot of things.
14:27I did a lot of things.
14:31I said, I'm sorry.
14:34I said, I'm sorry.
14:38I said, I'm sorry.
14:40I said, I'm sorry.
14:42I said, I'm sorry.
14:44When I said thank you, he said, I'll buy you something.
14:49I said, I'll buy you something.
14:53I married a staff member of Yoshimoto, and I gave birth to you.
14:58This is actually my second husband's child.
15:04How old is your daughter now?
15:06She's in the first year of high school.
15:08I see.
15:10My second husband was diagnosed with rectal cancer when his daughter was 8 months old.
15:19Really?
15:20I was working in Nagoya at that time.
15:25I sometimes went to Osaka to earn money.
15:28But I decided to go to Osaka.
15:32My husband also couldn't afford to go to Osaka.
15:36We had a lot of problems.
15:39I had a bad relationship with my mother.
15:42We had a hard time talking to each other.
15:45We decided to separate.
15:47During that time, my daughter asked me to stay with her.
15:52So I took her with me.
15:55I couldn't say anything.
15:57It was a storm of regret.
15:59I couldn't bear it.
16:03We were separated for about 9 years.
16:07With your daughter?
16:09We met again.
16:11I couldn't have a relationship with my daughter for the whole day.
16:16I couldn't have a relationship with my daughter for the whole day.
16:23I couldn't have a relationship with my daughter for the whole day.
16:26I went to the park and said goodbye.
16:29I returned it to Nagoya.
16:31So we had a little misunderstanding.
16:33I live in the first floor.
16:35Wow.
16:37I was told to listen to my parents.
16:41But there was a person who I only met once in a while.
16:46Suddenly, he said something arrogant.
16:49I see.
16:51It exploded.
16:53If it explodes, it explodes back.
16:57I didn't know.
16:59He said something cheeky.
17:02We had a big fight.
17:04It was a big fight.
17:06I couldn't say anything.
17:09I couldn't say anything.
17:11I couldn't say anything.
17:13It was a big fight.
17:15We lived together for about 3 months.
17:17You lived together for about 3 years.
17:20Yes.
17:223 years and 4 years.
17:24How is it now?
17:26After a big fight,
17:29After a big fight,
17:31we got closer little by little.
17:33You have already recognized her.
17:35You have already recognized her.
17:37You have already recognized her.
17:41She is in her puberty.
17:43I see.
17:45I was very anxious.
17:47She said something to me.
17:49I was looking forward to the radio.
17:53I always listen to it.
17:55She is a humble girl.
17:57I think she has a good DNA.
18:01I think she has a good DNA.
18:03I think she has a good DNA.
18:05I'm glad that she likes comedy.
18:08I respect her mother.
18:11She may not be born yet.
18:13I'm not born yet.
18:15I'm not born yet.
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