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00:00I think this is the biggest game of Brock Purdy's career.
00:03I don't even know if he's going to play in it.
00:04That's a stretch.
00:05It's not because here's what I mean.
00:06The Super Bowl wasn't big?
00:08No, I mean on a personal level.
00:11And again, if I offered you a Super Bowl ring or $60 million a year, what would you take?
00:19Probably the millions.
00:20There you go.
00:21If I had never made more than a million in a year.
00:23What I mean by this is not in terms of the biggest game of his career, in terms of career
00:28resume and accomplishments, it, I think, very well could be the biggest game in his
00:34career in terms of public perception.
00:38And this is not fair, but that's the way life works.
00:41This is the way life works in professional sports.
00:43We're going to spend a lot of time on this show today, the next four hours, I would bet,
00:48talking about two individuals, Brock Purdy and Jonathan Kaminga.
00:52There'll be others, but we're going to focus in a lot on those two guys.
00:56Is that fair?
00:57Does that make sense?
00:59That's just kind of the way we as fans operate.
01:01And Brock Purdy, again, I don't even know if he's playing in this game, but if he plays
01:06in this game, you've got to think about what's being asked of Brock and why this game represents
01:14all the things.
01:16You are injured.
01:17You are up against the wall.
01:19You are desperate.
01:20You're on the road.
01:22It's cold.
01:23It's going to be damp.
01:24And you're going against a winning team, a conference foe, and a traditional rival.
01:30Those are the places where you grab people and you get them on your side.
01:36And by the way, even if you do play, you're hurt.
01:40Those are the places where you get people on your side.
01:43And we are moving very, very quickly toward the end of this season.
01:47This game literally holds within it the Niners either being likely to make the playoffs or
01:54unlikely to make the playoffs.
01:56That is true based on this game alone.
01:58And so for that reason, I think the way Brock Purdy plays, if he plays, is going to shape
02:05the narrative around him as we head toward the end of the season and contract talks.
02:10Yep.
02:11The narrative is one thing and the reality is a completely separate one.
02:14And I don't think that this game shapes anything for the organization about what they think
02:19about Brock Purdy.
02:20It seems like the owner already has come out and said that, yeah, he's getting as much
02:24money as we need to pay him to keep him.
02:27And the coach actually came on this week, not on our show, but in his teleconference
02:31and said he thinks Brock's playing as well as last year.
02:34So the narrative is very much a fan thing and a sports talk radio thing.
02:39If he plays okay and they lose at Green Bay, I don't think the team is thinking at all
02:44about, well, that's it.
02:46You know, we're five and six and I don't think we can move forward with Brock Purdy anymore.
02:51I'd be stunned if they changed their tune over the course of one game, especially when
02:55you look at the problems with this team and Kyle Shanahan's talked about it.
03:00It's not Brock, it's injuries.
03:03It's a lot of other things that have gone against him.
03:05It's been penalties.
03:06It's been not closing out games.
03:08It's been injuries and the rest of it.
03:10I don't think that any of this in their eyes falls on Brock Purdy.
03:14The words that Shanahan said yesterday that you twice referenced right there.
03:19David Cosell NFL Films came on our show yesterday and said this about what Shanahan said.
03:24First of all, I'd be truly, truly surprised if Kyle truly meant that.
03:29He's giving a press conference, so he knows, he knows, believe me, he knows.
03:34I'll give you an example.
03:35On their first third quarter possession, okay, he threw to McCaffrey for six yards on third
03:41and 15.
03:42It was just outside the red zone, so they ended up kicking a field goal.
03:46That was a great example of Purdy just not seeing the game with the same innate, refined,
03:51nuanced feel of timing and anticipation that we've come to expect.
03:55He had two throws there.
03:56He had a seam route to Samuel and he had Jennings on the high-low with McCaffrey that he would
04:01have made last season without even thinking.
04:04Instead, he threw a check down to McCaffrey for six yards and he threw it too quick.
04:09It was a clean pocket.
04:10He just got rid of it quick.
04:12Then they kick a field goal instead of perhaps getting a touchdown.
04:16See, some of these occur when there's completions.
04:20You don't think of them as, oh, maybe he didn't see it the right way.
04:23Some of them are completions, but there were too many dropbacks in this game in which,
04:28to me, and I've been watching the Niners for years and years and years, as you guys know,
04:33in which I do not believe, and again, I'm not talking to Kyle, obviously, but where
04:40I believe he just did not process the route concept versus the coverage in the way that
04:45he needed to and with the necessary clarity.
04:47Okay, Greg Cosell, NFL Films, you can take it or leave it, but his take is what Kyle
04:51said yesterday in front of a microphone is a bunch of bunk.
04:55Right, and I agree with Greg in that assessment, having watched those plays a bunch of times
05:01from the All-22, but I also don't think that Kyle sees that and says, oh man, all of a
05:08sudden he can't see it now, he's blind.
05:10I think that it, you know, it could be a number of other factors, like you talked about the
05:14shoulder, which may or may not be a real injury, it might just be sore and hurt, and
05:19we don't know, but today's news about him leaving the throwing portion of practice early,
05:25that's not a good sign.
05:26Nope.
05:27That doesn't trend toward I'm feeling better, that trends toward ow, this really hurts,
05:32and I don't think that you can look at this team with the offensive line being okay, and
05:38I was looking at the PFF numbers yesterday, they're number 15 in pass blocking, they're
05:42number one in run blocking, the offensive line.
05:45Really?
05:46Yeah, according to PFF numbers.
05:47That's wild.
05:48And, you know, they've actually done great on the year as a run blocking unit, but the
05:53big issue for me has been the interior three in pass protection, and the pocket caves in
05:58and Brock runs away, and so all these things I think are interrelated, Brock's shoulder,
06:04the o-line, the wide receiver's not getting open, the injuries, so I think when you look
06:09at it from the global view, 30,000 feet, I think you still see a quarterback who's
06:14really good, and you don't change your tune, I don't think you change course at all in
06:20what you're going to do.
06:21Hold on, of course he's good.
06:22I know, but I don't think that it changes your approach about the offseason.
06:25I don't know.
06:26I don't know, because we don't know what's about to happen next, like I'm not making
06:31the case that it's all about Green Bay, I'm simply saying that it's all about the story
06:35that's unfolding, and Green Bay's the next one, and it's the linchpin.
06:39It's the launch point.
06:40It's a big one.
06:41You're either going, you're either moving toward the playoffs, or you're next to dead.
06:47Like you're on life support if you lose this game.
06:49Your playoff chances.
06:50Totally.
06:51Depending on what happens around you.
06:52I mean, I guess.
06:53Yep.
06:54Arizona loses.
06:55If Arizona loses, then Seattle wins.
06:57Right, but you'd rather have Arizona lose, that way you can control your own destiny
07:01against Arizona.
07:02Sure, sure.
07:03You're heading for Buffalo on Sunday night football, and basically a must-win situation
07:09with the Bills coming off of a bye at home in late November.
07:13Like good luck.
07:14Tough.
07:15Good luck.
07:16You know what I mean?
07:17So I just, to me, that's what I'm getting at.
07:21This game has a chance to save the season, and if you go out there and you don't play
07:27well, like and I mean really don't play well, you better believe there's going to be a new
07:32conversation that starts to unfold about Brock Purdy.
07:36And I don't think, you know, like Guru asked earlier, will the Niners be cutthroat here?
07:42Oh my God, yes.
07:43Oh my God, yes.
07:45And so if this goes awry the next few games, I'm not saying there's a new conversation
07:51about whether or not Brock's good.
07:53I think we've reached a point contractually with quarterbacks in the NFL where you've
07:57got to start asking tougher questions than is he good.
08:00Dak is good.
08:02Dak is good.
08:03Trevor Lawrence at times has looked good.
08:07And now people are making fun of those teams for the contracts that they went out and offered.
08:12You have to be more than good if we're going to do $50 or $60 million.
08:18You've got to be in cement.
08:20You're our guy.
08:22We believe in you for a long time, like six more years, and you're not just good with
08:29our current scenario, we're projecting forward what this organization's going to look like
08:33for six years, and you have to be the one to navigate us through all of that.
08:37Those are big questions.
08:38Yes, but I don't think that they have those questions.
08:41I really believe that they are in cement.
08:43I think that they know that he's a guy who sees it, and he can make all the throws, and
08:48he's smart, and he can make plays with his legs.
08:52For me, they've never given any indication that that is not something that they are in
08:56cement about.
08:57And then it comes down to what Matt Barrels said to the guys, Steini and Guh, and what
09:01he wrote in his mailbag about, the market is the market.
09:05And if you do think that he's that guy, and I think that they believe that, then the market
09:09will bear what you pay him, and that's just the way that goes.
09:11Well, I mean, he's not wrong about that, but Kyle Shanahan on TK's pod in the offseason
09:18said as much, not so much about Brock, but all players, where he sort of looks, he looks
09:23at the going rate, and it's no different than walking into a Target.
09:28This is what it costs.
09:30Do you want to go get an area rug?
09:33Go to that aisle.
09:34They're all about $99.
09:37That's what it costs.
09:38Do you want to do it more expensive?
09:40Great, go to Pottery Barn.
09:42Do you want to do it for less?
09:43I don't know, you better go to something.com and see if you can find it for less.
09:48That's the price.
09:49You want this or not?
09:51And that is the way he looks at it.
09:54At the same time, to me, there's a larger question of not so much just the price, but
10:03you really do have to make a decision, and this is what Brear was talking about earlier
10:07that I referenced.
10:08You have to make a decision with regard to, not is Brock Purdy who we want to play with
10:13right now, but is Brock Purdy good enough to navigate what you're seeing this year
10:20basically happening all the time?
10:22Are you the glue that when all of this starts falling apart, and some of it will be on purpose,
10:28when we start releasing players with big contracts, are you the guy to still keep us good?
10:34Because the Niners, I know that that's what they have designs on.
10:37They have designs on being good every single year.
10:40Right, but no team has a guy able to keep their team good when everything falls apart
10:46around it.
10:47You can talk about Patrick Mahomes, and yes, he has had a running back who was gone, and
10:53they traded the top wide receiver, and they still won the Super Bowl, and Rasheed Rice
10:56is out for the year and all the rest of it, but they still have a very good offensive
11:01line, and they have enough guys around, and they have a Hall of Fame tight end, so it's
11:06not like Kansas City has the cupboard completely stripped bare.
11:09Any team that does that, you're not going to have a quarterback who's able to win and
11:13do well.
11:14That doesn't exist.
11:15But they rebooted.
11:16Patrick Mahomes is still doing well.
11:18Not only did they get rid of Tyreek Hill, you're watching this year, they lost their
11:21whole receiving core, and they've rebooted in different ways.
11:26Trade for DeAndre Hopkins, bring back Juju Smith-Schuster, do whatever.
11:29But they also philosophically kind of went a different way, and they started building
11:33it around defense a little bit.
11:35Maybe the Niners will do that.
11:36I don't know what the philosophy will be when there is, say, no Debo, no Christian, no George,
11:42no Trent.
11:43I don't know what the philosophy will be, but they have to feel like they can build
11:47a philosophy around Brock and win.
11:51And if they don't, then I think this is actually a question.