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Local Government Amendment Bill | MQM P Leader Dr Farooq Sattar's Shocking Revelations
Local Government Amendment Bill | MQM P Leader Dr Farooq Sattar's Shocking Revelations
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00:00On one hand we are talking about the amendment of the constitution and on the other hand we are talking about the amendment of article 148
00:04which is about the local bodies.
00:05MQM wanted to merge with this amendment.
00:08We have met PMLN.
00:10It is a high-powered delegation.
00:12Mr. Ahsan Iqbal was leading it.
00:13Mr. Rana Sanaullah, loyal minister of foreign affairs.
00:17Mr. Azam Nazeer Tarar was also there.
00:19We have met. What did we talk about?
00:20Dr. Farooq Sattar was also there.
00:21Let's talk to him.
00:22Dr. Sahab, thank you very much for joining me in the program.
00:24Dr. Sahab, tell us one thing.
00:26Was there a final decision made in the meeting with PMLN or not?
00:31Look, the iron is hot right now.
00:36You might think that's why we are hurting right now.
00:39But we have been trying to heat this iron even before the elections.
00:44And we had put all our political hen eggs in their basket.
00:51We told PMLN that we want to work with them in the future.
00:54The experience of PDM-1 did not deliver.
00:58It did not perform.
00:59PDM-1 did a lot.
01:00But we could see a political roadmap.
01:05And the good thing was that there was a lot of sensitization in PMLN.
01:14And it is the first big party in Pakistan.
01:16Almost all the big leaders of the party are talking about a local government.
01:26Are you talking about the PMLN?
01:28When the local bodies were going to be elected in Islamabad,
01:32the local body elections were being delayed.
01:36This is the same party that does not let the local body elections or grassroots to reach the people.
01:42All the parties are like this.
01:44Now everyone has understood this.
01:47And the new generation, the relatively young parliamentarians who have become MNAs,
01:53who have gone to the provincial assembly,
01:55they have pushed their top leaders.
01:58But you have a relatively young senior leader.
02:01No, he is effective in policy.
02:03He has written songs on the local government.
02:08The local government has also written a thesis on research.
02:10And when our local government lawyer proposed constitutional amendments for local autonomy,
02:19I think that earlier the big parties used to say that a strong centre is a strong Pakistan.
02:26Then the compassionate parties used to say that a strong province is a strong Pakistan.
02:31And the big parties had to agree.
02:33But the strong province has become so strong that it has destroyed the existence of the local government.
02:41This is an important point.
02:45Because the 18th amendment means the devolution of democracy.
02:49The devolution of democracy should go to the local body government under the 18th amendment.
02:53But this has not happened yet.
02:55Doctor, have any promises or commitments been made in today's meeting?
02:59Will there be a continuation in this amendment?
03:03Don't look at today's meeting in isolation.
03:06Yesterday we had a whole delegation, including Aminul Haq, Kamran Tissuri, Governor Singh.
03:14They were sitting with their senior PM's wife in the Prime Minister's house.
03:22And we had a very open discussion on at least two or three issues.
03:27And the same thing has been repeated today.
03:29First of all, this amendment has not been passed to make the democracy strong and stable.
03:37Participatory and inclusive democracy will come only when this amendment is passed in the constitution.
03:45Doctor, has there been a discussion?
03:46The Prime Minister has also agreed to this.
03:51That this session will be held for this amendment.
03:55When the actual draft will be in front of everyone.
03:59And then there will be a debate and counting.
04:03Then everything will be clear that there is no strength, there is no truth, etc.
04:07We wanted to make it a club.
04:10In this judicial reform bill.
04:13But they say that there is a different view of different parties.
04:18So that the bill does not get diluted.
04:21So we have agreed to this.
04:23Then they say that this is such a bill.
04:26And there is weight in their argument too.
04:28That if it is separate and separate.
04:30We said, okay, so you are 26th.
04:32The government should own it.
04:3327th.
04:34So in other words, I'm sorry I'm cutting you short, Doctor.
04:38They have agreed to this in different words.
04:42They have agreed to this in different words.
04:44They have agreed to this categorically.
04:46They have given a commitment.
04:48And they have said that before this session is over.
04:52The introduction of this bill should take place.
04:56We have already put this bill as a private member.
04:59But our desire is because.
05:01I have signed a memorandum of understanding with PMLN.
05:04I will come to the MOU.
05:06Let me say this for clarity.
05:08This time, Article 140A will not be a part of the 26th amendment.
05:13The 27th amendment will come.
05:15And that is this.
05:16But yes, the 26th amendment is in danger at this time.
05:19Whether the numbers will be completed or not.
05:21The 27th amendment is not like that.
05:23Let me tell you one thing.
05:24Yes.
05:25Once a number is put on any constitutional amendment.
05:28Whether it is 25th or 24th.
05:30Some of them have not been passed.
05:32But their numbers are put in the same way.
05:34Okay.
05:35Whether this bill is passed or not.
05:37This local body bill will definitely be passed.
05:39Is that what you are saying?
05:40There are more chances of this bill being passed.
05:42This will expose everyone.
05:44The reason for the failure of the democracy in Pakistan.
05:47Number one is that.
05:49Our democracy is not participatory.
05:51Our democracy does not have the ownership of the common people.
05:54Doctor, it is important.
05:56And I am surprised that.
05:58When there was a special committee of Khurshid Shah.
06:01Asim Nazir Tarim circulated this bill to all our members.
06:06Okay.
06:07Think about it.
06:09And we appeal to all the parties.
06:11That this bill should be passed.
06:13Are you discussing with the other parties?
06:15I am coming to that.
06:17And the nationalist communities of Baluchistan have supported this bill.
06:21The nationalist communities have started supporting this bill for the first time.
06:25So I think this is happiness in Pakistan.
06:27If Allah wills.
06:29I guarantee that the car of democracy will never come off the track.
06:33I am telling you.
06:35If the people get the ownership.
06:37All the young people of Pakistan will be united.
06:41Look, there are 1,400 representatives of the people in the Senate.
06:45In the National Assembly.
06:46And in all four provincial assemblies.
06:48And they have to run such a big bureaucracy.
06:50They have to run such a big system and network.
06:52No, it is not the job of the MP, MNA to make the streets and all these things.
06:56There is no doubt about it.
06:57Local government is at this point in time very important.