MEDI1TV Afrique : Musique, littérature, cinéma et art plastique en Afrique - 12/10/2024
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00:00It is with great pleasure that I meet you on Mediain TV for this new cultural stop in the heart of Africa.
00:19In a few moments, we will talk about art with a total immersion in the universe,
00:24as well as the eclectic colors of Barthélemy.
00:27In Togo, we will also talk about Indivision, which marks the great return of the long-awaited Leila Khilani on the big screen.
00:35But for now, let's welcome our guest of the day.
00:38And today, we have the immense pleasure of welcoming Maria Siga.
00:49She is a singer, an artist, in the soul, in a colorful universe,
00:55and who has been nourished by several musical influences that she perfectly handles.
01:01Maria, hello!
01:03Hello, Anna!
01:06Hello!
01:07How are you?
01:09I'm fine, and you?
01:11I'm fine.
01:13Thank you for being with us.
01:17It's a real pleasure to have you here.
01:19It's not the first time we've talked or interviewed each other.
01:25It's always a pleasure to have you here.
01:29I would like you to share with our audience this love for music.
01:38How did music come to you?
01:40Or is it you who went towards music?
01:42In any case, how did this meeting happen?
01:45First of all, let me introduce myself to everyone who doesn't know me.
01:52My name is Maria Siga.
01:54I'm an artist and I'm from Senegal.
01:58It's true that since I was a child, I've always loved music.
02:04It has always been a passion for me.
02:07Even to master my lessons, I always had this tendency to sing to better capture them.
02:18It has always been a passion, and today I've made it my job.
02:25It's something that nourishes me.
02:32It's true that in your musical universe, Maria Siga,
02:36there are several musical genres that coexist, that merge.
02:41Sometimes others leave, others arrive, and then others come back.
02:44It's true that there are several influences, and it's very good like that.
02:49Why this desire to touch all these musical genres?
02:56Because I compose with my heart.
02:59I tell myself that music is not limited to a single strong musical genre.
03:05For me, what makes the beauty of music is also the fusion.
03:11Going to discover other cultures, other universes,
03:16all this mixed with my own culture.
03:20For me, it's to root out and open up to the rest of the world
03:27without losing my identity.
03:30That's why every time I do research, I try to merge everything that speaks to me,
03:37everything that speaks to my heart.
03:39Because we say that everything that comes from the heart
03:43comes directly into another heart.
03:46So I like to work with my heart and share my strongest feelings.
03:55That's what makes my art.
03:59Maria, we talk about fusion, we talk about musical encounters,
04:05but the pillar, you also talk about the heart,
04:07the heart of your music, it's African music,
04:10the music of your home country that stays there and is in the middle.
04:16What makes you vibrate in the music of your country,
04:21African music in general?
04:23Why this direct affiliation to which you cannot, in quotes,
04:28make true infidelity?
04:31In fact, for me, it's really essential.
04:35I really recognize myself through this culture.
04:39And I said to myself, why not try to convey and share this around me
04:47so that others can also discover my culture.
04:51We only have our culture.
04:56That's the only thing we can share with others.
05:00We can't share what we don't have.
05:02And for me, my music is really African music.
05:07It's really my roots, my identity.
05:10And I absolutely hold on to that and I wouldn't want to lose it.
05:15That's why I do everything, so as not to denature, let's say,
05:22these African roots.
05:27And you talk about rooting, emotions,
05:30that it comes from the heart, that it comes from the gut.
05:32And we, the audience, your audience,
05:35we only see the final result, that is, the song, the album.
05:41But there is a whole process of creation behind it.
05:44And you, how do you live as an artist?
05:46There is this process of creation.
05:48Sometimes it is instinctive, sometimes it is painful.
05:51And at home, Maria, how is it?
05:54It's a mix of the two.
05:56Because, in fact, I am inspired by everything I see on a daily basis,
05:59by my environment and my experience.
06:04I talk a lot about social issues.
06:07I talk about the situation of women.
06:10I talk about the condition of children, of the street.
06:15All the subjects that really inhabit us on a daily basis.
06:20For me, it's natural.
06:22I don't make it up, actually.
06:24I really try to relate facts
06:27and especially try to bring solutions.
06:31It's really the cries of the heart that we often find in my music.
06:37And for me, that's it, actually.
06:39There is no need to invent things that do not exist.
06:43It's really about the real, the lived.
06:48And by the way, a very nice news,
06:50since you recently released a single,
06:55a song with Africa,
06:57United, Imagine,
06:59there is an EP as well,
07:01and soon, the release of a single.
07:04Can you tell us a little bit about all this very beautiful news?
07:08Yes, Africa United is a feature that I did with Farhad Bachtos,
07:15a Cameroonian who also lives in France.
07:18And we did this collaboration.
07:21It was really a very nice collaboration.
07:25As I told you, we shared the same ideas.
07:29Imagine if the world was without hatred, without pain, without war.
07:37Imagine if everyone lived in peace.
07:40Imagine if...
07:42A lot of things, actually.
07:44It's a thing of peace, a thing of love,
07:47a really strong message for humanity.
07:51It was really an honor for me to do this feature with Farhad Bachtos,
07:58whom I knew by chance.
08:00I hope you enjoyed it.
08:04It's available on all platforms.
08:07You can go and discover it.
08:09And for October 18th,
08:11my new single will be released.
08:14It's called Bokanak.
08:19Bokanak means people of the world.
08:22It really talks about peace,
08:25about love,
08:27that we must convey between human beings.
08:31Because it's useless to go to war.
08:34It's useless to be jealous of each other.
08:38And for me, the world is beautiful
08:41because we are all different.
08:43We have to accept ourselves as we are.
08:46We have to live as we are,
08:48accept each other,
08:50respect each other.
08:52For me, that's life.
08:54And it's all these messages that I convey
08:56around this song called Bokanak.
08:59The song is in Djola,
09:02the mother tongue of the Casamance.
09:06It will be released on October 18th,
09:08and I hope you will like it too.
09:12We will of course be in touch.
09:16Maria Siga, one last question
09:18before we leave.
09:20It's true that your music
09:22is not just music,
09:24it's not just fusion,
09:26it's not just inspiration,
09:28it's also a commitment.
09:30For you, music, beyond beauty,
09:32beyond harmony,
09:34beyond emotion,
09:36is a real message.
09:38That's right.
09:40It must be used to convey messages,
09:44to try to unite people,
09:46to try to spread peace.
09:50For me, that's it.
09:52To share,
09:54to open up heart to heart,
09:56and above all,
09:58to fight against injustices.
10:00That's it.
10:02For me, music is that.
10:04We are here to carry the voice of the people.
10:08There is nothing more noble
10:10than to say the words
10:12of society
10:14to try to find solutions.
10:18When I speak,
10:20when I try to sing,
10:22there are really
10:24voice carriers.
10:26There are people who listen to us,
10:28and among these people,
10:30there may be someone
10:32who has the ability
10:34to change things.
10:36I really hope that these people
10:38can hear our messages
10:40and be able to exercise their voice.
10:44In any case, thank you very much,
10:46Maria Siga, for being with us.
10:48It was a pleasure to receive you
10:50on October 18,
10:52at the release of your single.
10:54We will be at your rendezvous.
10:56Thank you very much.
10:58Thank you very much, Anna.
11:00See you soon.
11:02We will also listen to one of your songs,
11:04the Murmur of the Angels,
11:06by Maria Siga.
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13:02After talking about music
13:04with Maria Siga,
13:06we will talk about art
13:08with our special guest this week,
13:10Barthélemy Togo,
13:12an artist who has gone through
13:14all the rules,
13:16from one technique to another,
13:18drawing, painting, engraving,
13:20sculpture, installation,
13:22video or performance.
13:24Barthélemy Togo can be called
13:26an insatiable traveler,
13:28who feeds on the news.
13:30In the face of inequalities
13:32and crises,
13:34Barthélemy Togo is a contemporary artist,
13:36politically, socially
13:38and especially humanly committed,
13:40and who works in the name of freedom,
13:42freedom for everyone,
13:44freedom as an inalienable right.
13:46In fact, he was appointed
13:48in 2021 as an artist of peace
13:50at UNESCO.
13:52Let's listen.
13:56I had a Christian education.
13:58The idea was that I could
14:00get a diploma
14:02and be an official in Cameroon.
14:04When I got to high school,
14:06I discovered the works
14:08of Titien, Goya
14:10and Rembrandt.
14:12I was fascinated by
14:14the chiaroscuro,
14:16dexterity,
14:18the mastery of drawing.
14:22And I said to myself,
14:24one day I would like to do like them.
14:26So I went to Cameroon.
14:28I decided to go alone
14:30to Ivory Coast.
14:32When I arrived in my fourth year,
14:34I thought there must be
14:36another type of education elsewhere.
14:38I packed my bags and went to
14:40the school of art in Grenoble.
14:42But they put me in the second year.
14:44I cried for three days.
14:46But then I said to myself,
14:48it doesn't matter,
14:50I'm going to learn something else.
14:52I started with the education
14:54of professors like Jean-Luc Moulin
14:56and Angele Tchia.
14:58And when I finished in Grenoble
15:00in 1996,
15:02I still wanted to learn.
15:04That's how I was accepted
15:06at the Kunstakademie in Düsseldorf,
15:08four years in Bidjan,
15:10four years in Grenoble,
15:12two years in Düsseldorf.
15:16Barthélemy, Togo,
15:18you have to admit,
15:20the art of conveying beauty,
15:22is first passed on to the schools
15:24of art in Bidjan, Grenoble,
15:26and then to the Kunstakademie in Düsseldorf,
15:28before moving to Paris,
15:30where he works to update
15:32other modes of existence.
15:34He also works to promote
15:36the dialogue between the arts
15:38of the North and the South,
15:40and above all, to give back to the African continent
15:42what has been regularly stolen from it.
15:44At Barthélemy, Togo,
15:46if the political dimension
15:48of his art is undeniable,
15:50he does not seek to give
15:52lessons of life,
15:54but rather to bring to light
15:56a new sensibility to the world.
15:58I try to express myself
16:00with all the richness of techniques
16:02that I have learned.
16:04The artist
16:06wants to express himself.
16:08It is the plastic rendering
16:10that is the purpose of my speech.
16:12And so I have to use
16:14everything that is available,
16:16that I know how to do.
16:18And I have to speak through the rendering of forms.
16:20I do not hesitate to use
16:22gauze, ceramics,
16:24or sculpture to speak.
16:30Working on several subjects,
16:32Barthélemy, Togo,
16:34is in a perpetual fusion with his work
16:36Le Monde de l'Humain, through themes as diverse
16:38as identity, civic consciousness,
16:40politics, exile,
16:42and many other things.
16:44Leaving inevitably leads to
16:46his way of life.
16:48Barthélemy, Togo,
16:50speaks to us through his works
16:52of this staging of life,
16:54difficulty to merge into a
16:56welcoming culture.
16:58He translates the complexity
17:00to approach a new culture
17:02while bringing with it
17:04where we come from.
17:06Artiste vagabond, Barthélemy, Togo,
17:08approaches his work with forms
17:10and varied themes.
17:12I am not an artist locked
17:14in a subject, even if some themes
17:16come back regularly.
17:18My work sets up a universe
17:20without borders.
17:22I spent a month
17:24drawing on the ground all this
17:26atmosphere of characters
17:28and vegetation and
17:30blue spots.
17:32And this blue, Togo, has its composition
17:34and its chemical rendering.
17:36And this blue
17:38is just fantastic.
17:40The plastic rendering
17:42in these stations
17:44is of inexplicable beauty.
17:46The work of the Sèvres factory
17:48has been decisive
17:50because these people
17:52have a generational
17:54way of working
17:56that has lasted for a long time.
18:00So the moment of lighting
18:02the fire was really
18:04like a tribe around the fire
18:06with this very gay moment
18:08during day and night.
18:10In fact,
18:12I think that only
18:14desire and love
18:16are decisive for me
18:18and I am sincere
18:20with what I do.
18:30And after talking about art
18:32with Barthélemy and Togo,
18:34let's talk about cinema with
18:36Indivisio de Leila.
18:38On the big screen,
18:40the Moroccan director
18:42says that our urgency
18:44to protect our land
18:46through the voice of a little girl
18:48determined to cancel the sale
18:50of the huge family estate
18:52where she grew up surrounded
18:54by forests and birds
18:56is a delicate two-hour manifest
18:58to rethink our relationship
19:00to property and the common good
19:02and especially our relationship
19:04to the planet Earth
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20:02I don't want to live here.
20:04I don't want to live here.
20:06These people are giving us this land and this house and they are making us suffer.
20:15A division of Leila Kilani.
20:17It's happening near Tangier.
20:19Birds and trees are in the distance.
20:21The house is being built on top of a hill.
20:23The Besanis family.
20:24Every day, Lina is going with her father to the forest
20:27to study all the feather specimens.
20:30For years, the matriarch wants to sell the domain.
20:34Potential buyers are rare.
20:36And when a promoter promises millions,
20:39even if he threatens to raze everything, we hang on.
20:42Before him, the last opportunity was to stop the day
20:45when a car accident killed Lina's mother and plunged her father into a coma.
20:49The child had made a vow of silence against the awakening of his father from the coma.
20:54The miracle happens, but Lina remains silent.
20:58Instead of speaking, she writes on social networks.
21:01She runs a blog.
21:03A success of ornithology in grass on her body.
21:07She also writes words like a work to speak to adults.
21:11She is also a fan of chance.
21:13She keeps a journal of coincidences.
21:15But when her father decides to give up the family house,
21:19Lina will take things in hand.
21:22Her destiny is that of this land.
21:24A teenager can also count on the help of her best friend,
21:28their housekeeper,
21:30and on the particular status of places in division.
21:34She tells us a story of a family,
21:38of heritage, of memory,
21:40but also of suffering,
21:42a film to see urgently.
21:44LINA'S LITERATURE
21:53After talking about cinema with Indivision,
21:57we talk about literature with Gaël Faille.
22:02The author of The Little Country,
22:04published 8 years ago,
22:06is well-known as a writer and rapper.
22:09In his second novel, Jacaranda,
22:11he talks about the genocide of all the Rwandans,
22:15told through the prism of the family,
22:17with a consumed sense of drama and tragedy,
22:20which is wonderful.
22:26The tree is symbolic,
22:28it speaks to everyone,
22:30between the roots,
22:32the flowers,
22:34the fruits.
22:37And then, for me,
22:40there is the idea of the silent witness,
22:44the silent witness of the tormented history of the country.
22:50There is also the beauty of nature,
22:53which always fascinates me.
22:56In Rwanda,
22:58it is the alternation
23:01that one can have
23:04between the extraordinary beauty of this country
23:10and the images that one summons
23:14of the genocide,
23:17which seems to be impossible
23:22to put on the reality that one has in front of one's eyes.
23:26And Jacaranda,
23:29we also discover it in history,
23:34it also speaks of the country in the future,
23:39of the march of implacable progress,
23:42which is also in another form,
23:47in another way,
23:49but which also creates some ravages.
23:52And I will not say more.
23:54Jacaranda, the last born of Gaëlle Fay,
23:57is in urgent need.
23:59We are coming to the end of African culture.
24:02Thank you for being with us.
24:04See you next week.
24:07Until then, take care.