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00:00It's Debo Samuel podcast cleats and combos
00:04podcast comment
00:06Where he says we've been the best team in the league for a while
00:11And as a 49er fan, how does that make you feel?
00:16And I also wonder like this kind of just came up as part of the conversation
00:21Would you rather be a Rams fan or a 49ers fan based on how the last five years have gone?
00:27You know like again, I
00:31Totally get it
00:33Especially if you're someone who's not been alive long enough to see the 49ers win a championship. I
00:39Would totally get it if you said Rams. I totally get it. Yeah, Grandy. You'd probably say Rams, right?
00:44Yep. Yeah, because he's never seen one you and I
00:49Watch the 49ers have a dynasty
00:51So I'm like no I have fun every year. I want to be in the mix
00:55I want to be good every year
00:57Right now I have Rams fans in the family. They don't they're very angry a lot
01:04most Sundays right now Owen to
01:06Puka I are Cooper. I are bummed
01:10bummed so and the last Rams title was st. Louis so and most of those people that you're referring to were
01:17Not alive when the st. Louis Rams were doing their thing, right? Well Rams just won four years ago. No prior to that
01:23All right prior to this one if you want to talk about Rams fans
01:27Yes, my buddy Marty Fisher shout out Pescado who lives in Arizona who is our age?
01:33He was a Ram fan back when they were in LA and he stayed with him in st. Louis
01:39And he stayed with him coming back here
01:40Yeah
01:40A lot of them bailed and like went to the Chargers for a second and then they left and then this that and the other
01:47How about Adam in the city? Hi Adam. Thanks for calling
01:51Hey guys, thanks for having me on
01:53When that video came out last night my immediate reaction was just you haven't won anything
01:59How can you be the best team? This is just coming from a Niners fan being in San Francisco from here
02:04I'm just like you cannot say that if you haven't won it and then on top of that
02:08The way that you have lost a lot of those big games. You've choked the games away
02:12You've had what the Rams game both Chiefs games. You've had ten point leads two of them
02:18You've had ten point leads in the fourth quarter and you lost so no
02:23You cannot say that you're the best team when you don't win
02:26That's just I that's my belief and that's just like how I feel
02:30I I think the timing of this video is really bad
02:34Minus the injuries is just it just sounds like you know
02:37The Niners players kind of crying about where they thought where they felt it should have been after they lost the big one again
02:43It's like we've heard this story before
02:45So that's kind of my stance of that yeah out of I like I get it
02:48I mean to me it also feels a little bit like and I think Russell Westbrook said this at one point like Russell Westbrook
02:55Hey, who do you think the best point guard in the world is he's like me and we're all like no you're not no
03:01No, but he's a player so he has to think that way in order to perform at this level
03:06Don't you kind of have to think that that you're the best you should and you like the self-confidence
03:12And you like the team confidence from Debo Samuel
03:15And I'm not faulting him for having that self opinion of him and his team
03:20But it does ring a little bit hollow as the caller was pointing out the fact that he's currently injured so yeah
03:26You have the best team, but you don't have McCaffrey, and you're out yourself, and you're one-on-one
03:30So it does ring a little bit hollow based on all the circumstances of going on right now
03:36GPD and Hayward, what's up, brother? How are you?
03:38You know what I will bet that these guys all these football players
03:45They record your you know they go to the Odyssey app
03:49And then they listen to you later because you guys are the best show on radio when they want to know about
03:55What everybody thinks about them and what they know and what the fans know it's nice. I said in the game
04:01That's what we do in
04:03You
04:16Said you're right of course, it's about
04:21You you you are Niner. You are good. You have the best talent in
04:27in the NFL, but you're not the best.
04:30You're correct.
04:31You didn't win it, dog.
04:33So whoever wins the Lombardi is the best.
04:37You can't say you are the best
04:41if you didn't win the Lombardi.
04:42You can say we have the best talent
04:46and we feel that we're the best,
04:48but we haven't won the big one.
04:50See, it's all about semantics and what you say.
04:53You gotta watch what you say.
04:56So here, GBD, here's the example,
04:59and I'll let you be the first to answer this,
05:00but we can put it out to everybody.
05:03Let's go back to, and I know that you and I
05:08and Dibs, we're old enough to have remembered this.
05:13Let's go back to the New York Giants' victory
05:17over the New England Patriots when the Patriots
05:20had not lost a football game all year long.
05:22Manning gets away, Helmut, Tyree, there you go.
05:28That's my joba.
05:29This is fantastic.
05:30Economy awards.
05:33I think that a reasonable person can answer this either way,
05:35but what is your perspective?
05:37Were the New York Giants the best team that year?
05:39Of course not.
05:40If you play that game 20 different times,
05:43they lose 19 times, and I think they played earlier
05:45that year, if I'm not mistaken, and the Patriots beat them.
05:48At the very end of the year.
05:49Correct.
05:50I think the last game of the year.
05:51GPD, how would you answer that?
05:54Me, dawg.
05:54That's a no for me, dawg.
05:57You're not the best.
05:58Okay, Grandy, thank you, GPD.
06:01Grandy, who was the best team that year?
06:03Who raised the Lombardi trophy?
06:05Ah, that's right, Eli.
06:06Again, I think a reasonable person
06:08can answer that both ways.
06:10I get it if that's the way you look at it.
06:13Very black and white thinking, and that's fine.
06:16I'm not saying it's wrong.
06:18I don't tend to feel that way.
06:20I think the Patriots, the same way I think
06:22the Golden State Warriors, Toronto Raptors year,
06:26or even the Cavaliers year, they didn't win.
06:32But if you ask me who the best team,
06:34the New England Patriots were the best team that year.
06:36Right.
06:37And part of the fun of sports is sort of getting there
06:40toward the end, assessing who the best team is,
06:43and then going, can you do it?
06:45And they usually can, but not always.
06:48And that's where this whole idea about best team,
06:52for me, falls short of what actually moves me,
06:57because who cares who the best team is?
06:59Ultimately, you're either the champion,
07:01or you're not the champion.
07:02And if you're the best team, then we can look at
07:05why you didn't win the big game,
07:07and we can talk about Kyle Shanahan,
07:09and many fans want to.
07:11Last year, you didn't know the overtime rules,
07:13and the Jimmy G year, you should've run the ball,
07:16and Kittle was open, and Emmanuel Sanders,
07:19and Jimmy G, and all the rest of it.
07:21We can pick through the wreckage of a loss
07:24when you were the best team.
07:26But ultimately, for me, it doesn't matter
07:28who the best team is.
07:29There's the champion, and then there's everybody else.
07:33How about, let's go to Ryan in Irvine.
07:35Ryan, thank you for calling, what's up?
07:39Hey, guys.
07:41This is one thing I think is kind of funny.
07:44It seems like players, they obviously,
07:46they follow the lead of the head coach,
07:49and in my opinion, I feel like Debo feels comfortable.
07:52He's said this, not just in this podcast,
07:54but he's said this a few times now,
07:55that he feels like they have the best team,
07:58and I think he feels comfortable saying things like that,
08:01especially on such a big platform,
08:03because that's how Kyle views this team.
08:06That's how Kyle has viewed his teams
08:08for the last several years,
08:09and I think he instills that in his players,
08:13and I don't know if that's a good thing or not.
08:15I really don't.
08:16I don't know if it's too much confidence
08:19and not enough reflection on the team
08:21to be like, how can we actually get better
08:23so we can win this thing?
08:26I know confidence, arrogance is needed
08:30at that level of sports, but sometimes I question
08:33if maybe a little more humility
08:34would actually get the job done,
08:35and then the second thing, as far as being a Rams fan
08:39or a Niners fan, I'm 37 years old.
08:42I've lived in Orange County my whole life.
08:44I am surrounded by quote-unquote Rams fans
08:48who get the trump card of saying,
08:50yeah, but we won a championship,
08:53and it's just, they have the ability,
08:55this like, I don't know, just calm and peace,
09:00knowing that they got the job done,
09:02they have a championship,
09:03and I think probably for the next several years,
09:06they're just gonna ride on that,
09:08and it's like, trust me,
09:11the answer to the question is,
09:12would you rather be a Niner fan or a Rams fan?
09:14Niner fan all day long,
09:16because I love the players that we have,
09:19the organization that we have,
09:20and the journey, like as you like to say,
09:23the process has been amazing.
09:25There's been some amazing moments as Niner fans,
09:28but that tension that we feel with 30 years
09:34since not getting the job done,
09:35I must say, I was seven years old,
09:38I was playing outside the whole time.
09:40Yeah, Ryan, your phone started to cut out there
09:41a little bit, but it's a really good call.
09:43I don't know if that I buy that Kyle Shanahan
09:46is always feeding the guys that we're the best team.
09:48You know, like, we haven't heard him talk about it much.
09:51I do remember John Lynch before the year being like,
09:53hey, why are we talking about a Super Bowl?
09:55You gotta earn that every year.
09:57Like, you don't just start there.
09:59So I don't know that that actually comes
10:01from the staff on down.
10:03I tend to believe that, you know,
10:05these are wide receivers,
10:06and this is the way a lot of wide receivers talk.
10:09You've been successful,
10:10so of course you're gonna feel that way.