En el séptimo capítulo de la cuarta temporada de "De Tú a Tú", Martín Cárcamo conversó con Pedro Alonso, actor español conocido mundialmente por interpretar a Berlín en la serie "La Casa de Papel".
En la ocasión, Pedro Alonso abrió su corazón y habló de aspectos de su vida personal desconocidos para el resto de las personas, como sus orígenes y cómo vivió la muerte de su padre hace 10 años.
También entregó detalles de su lado espiritual, recordó sus inicios en la actuación y ahondó en el amor que tiene por la pintura. La conversación concluyó con los retratos que hizo de Martín Cárcamo, utilizando solo dos lápices.
En la ocasión, Pedro Alonso abrió su corazón y habló de aspectos de su vida personal desconocidos para el resto de las personas, como sus orígenes y cómo vivió la muerte de su padre hace 10 años.
También entregó detalles de su lado espiritual, recordó sus inicios en la actuación y ahondó en el amor que tiene por la pintura. La conversación concluyó con los retratos que hizo de Martín Cárcamo, utilizando solo dos lápices.
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00:00:00The day I got to Chile, I went to a party, it was cold, and a character called Martin arrived and threw a blanket over me.
00:00:11Martin lives nearby, I think, and I'm going to see him, because someone who takes such good care of me has to be a great host.
00:00:20I hope to have a good session with him and tell him a little bit about life and miracles and what has happened to him.
00:00:25In this country, I'm starting to get to know him and I like him a lot.
00:00:29I paint badly, but I have a lot of fun.
00:00:33Right now, I'm going to make you a portrait.
00:00:35I've never made a portrait in my life.
00:00:36Well, the next time they tell you I have a portrait, you're going to think about it.
00:00:41Does it change your life at the paper house in terms of everyone knowing you, I don't know how many countries and all the craziness there is?
00:00:46The day my head exploded was this.
00:00:49I was watching Miguel Angel's David, because I already told you that I really like art.
00:00:55I see him, I take a picture, I even make a video.
00:00:59Boom, a person turns, boom, a person turns.
00:01:05And I feel that something is starting to happen, but that guy is recording me.
00:01:09And suddenly, the whole museum turns.
00:01:14And I say, what madness is happening here?
00:01:17My father, at 17 years old, a cardboard box crossed the ocean and came to Latin America to get out of poverty.
00:01:23How old were you when your father died, Pedro?
00:01:26Forty-six or so.
00:01:29And he had a long death process, but at home.
00:01:34And we were all there.
00:01:35Hey, when people have seen you, they tell you, ah, you cut it higher, you cut it thinner, they tell you that kind of thing, right?
00:01:40Basically, it generates a deep disappointment.
00:01:42I think I love you a little, talking about that.
00:01:44I love you too.
00:01:49Three in the morning, Martin, where are you?
00:01:54I'm in a hard moment.
00:01:56And what a strange ear.
00:02:01You always had a low voice, a hoarse voice.
00:02:04No, but I have this when I go to the studios, you know, people say, I never speak like that.
00:02:11Do you know what I like the most?
00:02:12It's the best show I've ever been on in my life.
00:02:24Today is a special day.
00:02:27Not every day.
00:02:29Every day is a special day.
00:02:36I'm out of breath, right?
00:02:37Martin, open the door, I'm cold.
00:02:40Where are you?
00:02:41Beautiful.
00:02:46I don't know if what I'm seeing is a dream or a reality.
00:02:54Welcome, Pedro, to my house.
00:02:57Hey, I don't know if you know me as much as I know you, but is this a paradise that you brought me?
00:03:03And what a beauty, right?
00:03:04No, this is painted by you on fire, this wine is extraordinary.
00:03:07Come on.
00:03:08How are you with the cold?
00:03:12Come to my house.
00:03:13I come from Mexico, from the desert, from the heat, from the beach.
00:03:17How much do you record in Mexico?
00:03:20Well, the last few days, not so much, but 30, well, 30 degrees.
00:03:2330 degrees.
00:03:24And suddenly I read the forecast and it said 0 degrees in Chile.
00:03:27Now it's softer than I expected, but I'm very cold, brother.
00:03:31Hey, when you've seen people tell you, ah, cut it higher, cut it thinner, they tell you that kind of thing, right?
00:03:36Basically, it generates a deep disappointment.
00:03:39Why?
00:03:48No, I'm happy to have you in my house.
00:03:50The truth is that it is an honor.
00:03:52You are a mega mega star, although you don't assume it.
00:03:55You are a mega star.
00:03:56Really?
00:03:57Yes, absolutely.
00:03:58People adore you.
00:03:59You are at a very high international level.
00:04:02And being able to talk and get to know you more deeply is an honor for me.
00:04:06And also, since I already put the blanket on you, I feel confident to get married.
00:04:10No, no, no, you are the man who put the blanket on me at a party.
00:04:12That will be recorded.
00:04:13And the blankets are important to you.
00:04:15What a beautiful house, right?
00:04:16Ah, thank you very much.
00:04:17It's your house.
00:04:18It's not a rented house, it's not decorated, it's your house.
00:04:21I mean, please, look, look, I really like the decoration.
00:04:23A lot, a lot.
00:04:24This is a mural paper, but to give tranquility and peace.
00:04:26Photos, paintings.
00:04:28I really like painting.
00:04:30Yes.
00:04:31How long have you been painting?
00:04:32Well, look, I discovered it when I was in my thirties.
00:04:35And since then it has become one of the absolute pillars of my life.
00:04:39I paint all the time.
00:04:40If I have to work, I paint.
00:04:42If I come to see you, I paint.
00:04:44If I study, I paint.
00:04:46If I write, I paint.
00:04:47It's like a way of connecting in a more intuitive way, let's say.
00:04:50And my mother tells me,
00:04:51Ah, well, look, since you paint, you are much calmer.
00:04:54Then I'm going to take advantage of you.
00:04:55Do you have a minute with painting?
00:04:56Sure.
00:04:57Yes, yes.
00:04:58Hey, well, come in, come in.
00:05:01Things are going to get very ugly.
00:05:07Jarana.
00:05:08This is a wonderful moment.
00:05:12Listen to me all.
00:05:14This is a very complex operation.
00:05:16So we're going to need extreme concentration.
00:05:19This time we will stop the plot.
00:05:25Well, happy to have you here, really.
00:05:27And I love having time to talk to you.
00:05:29But the reason you brought me here
00:05:31is because suddenly the show was going well
00:05:33and you want a difficult moment to see you.
00:05:36To know difficult stories.
00:05:38I'm not saying that the show resists a bad character,
00:05:40a bad guest, it's just that we're fine.
00:05:42No, people love you a lot.
00:05:44And the truth is that it was a surprise for me
00:05:46to have the opportunity to talk to you here in my house.
00:05:48I still don't believe it.
00:05:50I obviously saw the whole house,
00:05:53I saw the TV, I saw the series you've done.
00:05:57And I never imagined that we would be talking here.
00:06:00And now we're intimate.
00:06:01Well, because I forgot to put the blanket on you.
00:06:05No, no, no, but that came to me.
00:06:07Because I was cold.
00:06:09And suddenly you came and pa!
00:06:11It was a detail.
00:06:12A great detail.
00:06:13Thank you very much.
00:06:14Hey Pedro, I have an image that I'm going to show you
00:06:16to start the conversation, look.
00:06:17Very good.
00:06:20Oh, Vigo.
00:06:23Vigo, Vigo.
00:06:25This is the Plaza de Vigo.
00:06:26Yes, the Plaza de la Constitución.
00:06:28De la Constitución, exactly.
00:06:30It's the Plaza de la Constitución.
00:06:31This is the old area of the city where I was born.
00:06:34Where were you born?
00:06:35In Vigo, in Vigo.
00:06:36What happens is that when we were little,
00:06:37we went to Pontevedra, which is a city that is close.
00:06:40But my mother, my brothers live in Vigo.
00:06:43There is everything.
00:06:44They still live here?
00:06:45All my origin.
00:06:47All your origin.
00:06:48My mother is like, when are you coming?
00:06:49I'm in Chile, mommy.
00:06:51Well, she's waiting for me.
00:06:53She's waiting for me there.
00:06:54She treats you well, wonderful.
00:06:56But it's cold, isn't it?
00:06:57Yes.
00:06:58It's winter, isn't it?
00:06:59I have a friend who puts blankets on me.
00:07:00Calm down, mom.
00:07:01Exactly.
00:07:02I'm with Martín, don't worry.
00:07:04How is Vigo?
00:07:05How is the place where you were born?
00:07:08Well, Vigo is a city that when I was a child
00:07:12was clearly industrial.
00:07:14At a certain point it was the most powerful fishing port in the world.
00:07:18And then, with all the reconversion and all that,
00:07:20let's say it became something else.
00:07:23It has a beautiful geography.
00:07:24It's in the Rías Bajas, which is the sweetest part of Galicia.
00:07:28It's in the northwest of Spain.
00:07:31It's by the sea.
00:07:33And it's a population of three hundred and something thousand inhabitants,
00:07:36where I grew up and gave my first kisses.
00:07:39How wonderful.
00:07:42How old were you when you gave your first kisses?
00:07:45First kiss?
00:07:47I gave it to a girl,
00:07:48because at first I always had stories with clearly older girls.
00:07:53And maybe that was that summer too,
00:07:55and there I was trembling.
00:07:58Why?
00:07:59Because...
00:08:00She knew a lot.
00:08:01She was going faster than me.
00:08:02And I was trembling, I mean, literally.
00:08:05You always had a low voice, a hoarse voice.
00:08:09No, but I have this when I go to places,
00:08:12people say,
00:08:13why do you speak like that?
00:08:16I say, with my hand, I say, I'm in Chile,
00:08:19but then I leave the house and put this voice.
00:08:22Because, in the end, having that voice, being a boy, you looked older.
00:08:25No, no, no, no.
00:08:26I didn't have that voice when I was little.
00:08:28I think I've been doing it all my life.
00:08:30I don't know.
00:08:31And who made up your family?
00:08:33Was it your mother, your father?
00:08:35My mother and my father, who died, Antonio.
00:08:39My brothers, I have a beautiful brother.
00:08:41I know.
00:08:42Pedro and Pablo, which is my version, but in good, decent.
00:08:45I have it here.
00:08:46Look, look, look.
00:08:47Really?
00:08:48Yes.
00:08:49Pedro and Pablo.
00:08:50Pedro and Pablo.
00:08:51Imagine little ones.
00:08:52Pedro and Pablo, Pedro.
00:08:53I'm afraid.
00:08:54Oh, this photo is very beautiful.
00:08:56This photo is in the garden, I think in the house of the town,
00:08:59in Sotero de Montes, the town of my father,
00:09:01which was the town of my childhood.
00:09:02Look, it was still good here.
00:09:04And she is Purita, my mother, who is a mother of a woman.
00:09:07Purita.
00:09:08Purita, Purita, Purification, Puri.
00:09:10I love the name Purification.
00:09:11And you are?
00:09:12I am this one.
00:09:14The darkest one, and he is Pablo.
00:09:16How old are you? You or Pablo?
00:09:18I was born first.
00:09:20Then they say that the one who comes out first is the second one who was conceived.
00:09:26Sometimes my brother tells me when he has a strange day.
00:09:30But I was born first.
00:09:31You were born first.
00:09:32How long?
00:09:33Let me get out of here.
00:09:34You know how long, right?
00:09:36Very little, very little.
00:09:37I think with a difference of three minutes.
00:09:38Three minutes.
00:09:39Three minutes.
00:09:40Very close, but I was born first.
00:09:42And how many children are there?
00:09:43You are?
00:09:44We are three.
00:09:45Three.
00:09:46I have my younger brother, Pablo, and an older brother called Toño,
00:09:49who is three and a half years older than me.
00:09:52I mean, it must have been nice in childhood to have three men.
00:09:55Well, my mother has different opinions.
00:09:57I can imagine.
00:09:58She said, all men in that house.
00:10:00She was very excited to have a girl.
00:10:04And I remember she said to me, I don't know with what intention,
00:10:07she said to me, you should have been the girl.
00:10:10She said that to my mother.
00:10:12And I said, okay, mom.
00:10:15My mother sometimes needed more feminine energy.
00:10:18Of course, of course.
00:10:19What did your father do and what did your mother do?
00:10:21Well, look, throughout my life,
00:10:24my parents had two shoe stores.
00:10:28They were merchants.
00:10:29But before that, my father came from that town,
00:10:32which I have said before, from Sotero de Montes,
00:10:34a town in the hard and humble Galicia.
00:10:40And my father, at 17 years old,
00:10:42and a box of cardboard crossed the ocean
00:10:45and arrived in Latin America to get out of poverty.
00:10:48He entered Brazil, he was there for a year,
00:10:51and from there he went to Venezuela.
00:10:53So my father, from time to time, would say, cool.
00:10:55He would say this kind of words and his eyes would light up.
00:10:58So I think that's why when I entered Latin America,
00:11:00which took me a long time to come,
00:11:02it hit me so hard.
00:11:04So your mother spoke to you?
00:11:06Yes, of course.
00:11:07My father spent 18 years in Venezuela.
00:11:08My father spent his youth in Venezuela.
00:11:10My father put on sunglasses
00:11:14and began to have another kind of life in Venezuela,
00:11:17in which he also landed, which was an incredible place.
00:11:21A paradise.
00:11:22A place of life, of a lot of light, of a lot of energy.
00:11:25And then he came back, he married my mother,
00:11:27the classic story, he returned to the town,
00:11:29he married a woman from almost his town,
00:11:32they came back together,
00:11:34and there was a moment when Purita told my father,
00:11:36Antonio, let's go home.
00:11:38And they came back home.
00:11:40What was reality like?
00:11:41Did they live comfortably?
00:11:42With a lot of effort?
00:11:43Yes.
00:11:45My parents came from a very religious culture.
00:11:48Very religious, of course.
00:11:49Especially my father.
00:11:50They were two machines to work.
00:11:52They didn't stop.
00:11:54Machines to work.
00:11:55My house was open on Sundays,
00:11:57you went to eat and then you went to the town,
00:11:59but the rest of the week my parents worked like crazy.
00:12:03My mother, in addition to taking care of a shoe shop,
00:12:05with everything that meant,
00:12:07she also took care of all the dirty beasts she had at home,
00:12:11and my father did the accounting.
00:12:13I always remember my parents working.
00:12:15Was there no artist in your family?
00:12:18No, there was nothing related to interpretation.
00:12:21But let's say that later my father and my mother,
00:12:23despite their opinions,
00:12:25even when confronted with my movements,
00:12:27they never stopped supporting me.
00:12:29That's key.
00:12:30And even at some point when I felt very, very, very bad,
00:12:34they saved me, absolutely.
00:12:36They picked me up and gave me the support
00:12:40so that I could resist on a path that has been...
00:12:47How old were you when your father died, Pedro?
00:12:50Well, I'm very bad at numbers,
00:12:52but it was about seven years ago.
00:12:55Now I'm 51, so around 46, something like that.
00:12:59What did your father die of?
00:13:01Cancer.
00:13:02Cancer, yes, yes.
00:13:04And he also had a long process.
00:13:07When I saw my father in that hospital,
00:13:09I said, I want to take him away from here.
00:13:11And I remember that they did a little chemo to him,
00:13:15they almost took him away.
00:13:17And he had a long death process,
00:13:20but at home.
00:13:21And we were all there.
00:13:23I was there during that time in Vigo.
00:13:27And, well, a process of that magnitude moves a lot.
00:13:31The death of your father moves a lot.
00:13:33But I think it was a beautiful way to face it.
00:13:36It's strong.
00:13:37It's strong when the person also...
00:13:42I mean, the very act, I mean,
00:13:44when the person lets out a breath.
00:13:46And I don't feel like a separation.
00:13:48I don't know if you're a believer or not,
00:13:50or if you think there's something else.
00:13:52Because, of course, it's like the body,
00:13:54but I believe a lot in the soul of the person.
00:13:59And it's to see a death in peace.
00:14:01Because what you say is being accompanied,
00:14:03the good death.
00:14:04I'm a person with a very, very, very, very, very,
00:14:07very significant spiritual aspect.
00:14:09Very significant.
00:14:10And in permanent learning and search?
00:14:12Yes, because...
00:14:15We're going to open a melon.
00:14:17Do you want me to open a melon?
00:14:19What does it mean to open a melon?
00:14:20To open a melon in Spain is to open a theme, right?
00:14:23Okay.
00:14:24I've done it in a very discreet way.
00:14:26The thing is, I'm about to make that jump through the air.
00:14:29I made a trip to Latin America.
00:14:31Well, first, I made a trip when I was 24,
00:14:34which gave me an incredible shiver.
00:14:36For some reason, I had a four-day fast
00:14:39and four nights alone in the mountains,
00:14:42without eating or drinking for...
00:14:44Stop, stop, stop.
00:14:46When I was 23.
00:14:48Stop.
00:14:49For some reason.
00:14:50Alone?
00:14:51Yes.
00:14:54The ceremony was called a jamblechayapi,
00:14:56which is a rite of passage
00:14:58in some Native American tribes.
00:15:02So you were already coming with those interests?
00:15:04Yes, I've been curious all my life.
00:15:07And there was something there that called me a lot.
00:15:10Almost no one knows this, of course.
00:15:12And I went to that fast.
00:15:14Jamblechayapi means to request a vision.
00:15:16And I had an incredible trip.
00:15:18And there I read a lot about esotericism.
00:15:20I read Castaneda in full.
00:15:22But it took many years, many years,
00:15:25for the door of shamanism to open for me.
00:15:28And since the door opened for me on a trip to Mexico,
00:15:31I work with medicines, ancestral plants,
00:15:34I don't know if this sounds familiar to you.
00:15:37And I attended that door.
00:15:39And in recent years I have worked a lot with that.
00:15:42One of the aspects of shamanism and plant intake
00:15:45is cleaning, purging.
00:15:47That is, they take it to disinfect themselves in some way.
00:15:50But then there is a work of spiritual search and knowledge.
00:15:54And since that door has been clearly opened for me,
00:15:58the film I'm going to make is about that.
00:16:00That's why I'm starting to say it,
00:16:02because next year I will run out of discretion on the subject.
00:16:04It is a very sensitive subject.
00:16:06I deal with it with great respect,
00:16:08but I know it generates a lot of controversy.
00:16:10There are many prejudices about that.
00:16:12Opening that door, developing that path,
00:16:14has confirmed to me that it is obvious
00:16:16that we are here by chance.
00:16:18To me.
00:16:19I want... I'm still with the melon, as you say.
00:16:21Go ahead.
00:16:22But I want to finish the subject of your father
00:16:24because I want to close the subject.
00:16:26Yes.
00:16:28When your father died,
00:16:30did you have the opportunity to say goodbye to him?
00:16:32Yes.
00:16:33To talk to him?
00:16:35You know, when they say,
00:16:36to leave everything unsolved, without...
00:16:38Yes, and above all, to be present.
00:16:40To feel accompanied.
00:16:41You know, because we all always have pending stories,
00:16:43and affections, and family.
00:16:45But in that case, for me,
00:16:47it was very important to be present.
00:16:49To be there.
00:16:52To be present with consciousness.
00:16:56Sometimes it is much more powerful than speaking.
00:17:03I was close to my father throughout the process.
00:17:06And I think that, in addition,
00:17:09in the last phase of my relationship with my father,
00:17:12somehow we understood each other better.
00:17:15Because my father was a person who,
00:17:16with many of my movements, said,
00:17:18I have a weird son.
00:17:21Because many of my...
00:17:23I remember once my father went to the institute.
00:17:26He said, my son, write verses.
00:17:28My father, there were things I did that I didn't understand.
00:17:30My father makes a living.
00:17:31He makes a living well,
00:17:32and suddenly he wants his son to be a lawyer,
00:17:34or a doctor, right?
00:17:36You can study.
00:17:37And suddenly, I'm a frog, right?
00:17:41And also, the profession of an actor,
00:17:44still in my father's generation,
00:17:45aroused many prejudices.
00:17:47People, right?
00:17:49Morally questionable.
00:17:51I don't know.
00:17:52With a very lax moral.
00:17:53Of course.
00:17:54But then there was a paradox,
00:17:56and it's that,
00:17:58after that great crisis I told you about,
00:18:00I went back to my family's land, Galicia,
00:18:04and I made an autonomous television series
00:18:09for Galicia,
00:18:11which was a hit,
00:18:13a super hit,
00:18:15on that scale,
00:18:17in which I acted as a priest.
00:18:19And it was a character
00:18:21with whom...
00:18:22It happened to me on a different scale
00:18:24than it happened to Berlin,
00:18:25and in a different tone.
00:18:26I was going through Galicia,
00:18:27and there were a lot of people
00:18:28who thought I was the character,
00:18:31and then people hugged me,
00:18:32and my father freaked out with that.
00:18:35My son, my son.
00:18:36My son, my son,
00:18:38he must have done something, right?
00:18:40And I remember that,
00:18:41in some way,
00:18:42that softened him,
00:18:43and he said,
00:18:44well, not everything is lost
00:18:45with this one I got, right?
00:18:49What happened to your mother
00:18:50when your father died?
00:18:51You, I imagine,
00:18:52the three men
00:18:53took another position.
00:18:57That's an incredible journey,
00:18:59because,
00:19:01in the case of my mother,
00:19:04I didn't even talk to her,
00:19:05but
00:19:07the process of death was long.
00:19:09So I think there is
00:19:10a setback,
00:19:12after something like that,
00:19:13which is post-traumatic stress,
00:19:14until that normalizes, right?
00:19:16And then my mother
00:19:17was with my father since she was 18.
00:19:20The only man in her life.
00:19:22So,
00:19:24there is an incredible
00:19:25energy jump there,
00:19:27which has a process.
00:19:28But now my mother is very well,
00:19:29she is a woman,
00:19:31besides that she moves alone,
00:19:33independent,
00:19:34she has always been very active.
00:19:36She is a woman who
00:19:38is capable of reinventing herself
00:19:3980 times, right?
00:19:41Does it suddenly generate,
00:19:42not guilt,
00:19:43but the fact that
00:19:44you are constantly traveling
00:19:45and the difficulty of being there
00:19:47generates certain issues for you,
00:19:49or are you super talking
00:19:50to your mother?
00:19:52Well, now we can have
00:19:53a video conference,
00:19:55a video conference with her.
00:19:57It is true that I have always been
00:19:58very independent,
00:19:59in all senses.
00:20:00The only way I have
00:20:01something of a clan,
00:20:02I am a guy who disappears.
00:20:05My daughter is 23 years old
00:20:06and now I really want to see her.
00:20:08Today I have also spoken to her
00:20:10and we are going to make a plan,
00:20:11because suddenly I have the feeling
00:20:13that I have disappeared
00:20:14for the last three and a half months.
00:20:17But life has also shown me
00:20:18that it is better quality
00:20:19than sometimes quantity, right?
00:20:21We go back to the melon.
00:20:23We close the melon?
00:20:24No, we go back to the melon.
00:20:25I'm going to open the melon.
00:20:26This is the subject, huh?
00:20:27Yes, but I'm going to try
00:20:28to open it later,
00:20:29later on, but ...
00:20:31A specification.
00:20:33Substances with which you have,
00:20:36let's say, an alteration
00:20:37of consciousness
00:20:38in non-recreative contexts,
00:20:41which is something
00:20:42that I underline a lot
00:20:43when I start this conversation.
00:20:44I mean,
00:20:45you have to say,
00:20:46ah, these people ...
00:20:47You're not taking a mushroom
00:20:48to hallucinate, are you?
00:20:49Exactly.
00:20:50That is a capital fact
00:20:51and I do it in contexts
00:20:52of great respect
00:20:53and only with people
00:20:54with whom I have
00:20:55a clear bond.
00:20:56I have friends
00:20:57who have participated
00:20:58in cleaning ceremonies
00:20:59and who also
00:21:00prepare for a long time,
00:21:02they are surrounded
00:21:03by people
00:21:04who are also controlling.
00:21:06Yes.
00:21:07I have never seen him.
00:21:08I have a lot of respect for him.
00:21:10It is good to have a lot of respect for him.
00:21:12Because ...
00:21:13And I understand
00:21:14that it is not the case
00:21:15for everyone,
00:21:16nor of course
00:21:17at any time,
00:21:18but from my experience
00:21:19it is a universal wealth
00:21:20that has always existed
00:21:21in all cultures,
00:21:22in all cultures.
00:21:23It is millenary,
00:21:24it is obvious.
00:21:25In all cultures
00:21:26and that implies
00:21:27a kind of relationship
00:21:28with nature
00:21:29that is very respectful.
00:21:30So, well,
00:21:31I have discovered there
00:21:32a way of knowledge
00:21:33and I attend it.
00:21:34You were four days
00:21:35without trying a bite
00:21:36and without drinking water.
00:21:37Yes,
00:21:38and that for me
00:21:39was the data.
00:21:40I had no idea
00:21:41where I was getting into.
00:21:42But since then
00:21:43I have been doing
00:21:44an annual fast.
00:21:46It is something
00:21:47that I have kept.
00:21:48I have never
00:21:49done it again
00:21:50without water.
00:21:51It is very strong.
00:21:52Because compared
00:21:53to not eating,
00:21:54not drinking is
00:21:55another level.
00:21:56Terrible, yes.
00:21:57Because as soon as
00:21:58the number of hours passes,
00:21:59your heart rate
00:22:00starts to go
00:22:01boom!
00:22:03Boom!
00:22:04Then you become
00:22:05a lizard
00:22:06and
00:22:08your perceptive system
00:22:09gets altered,
00:22:11your sensory capacity
00:22:12goes crazy.
00:22:14But at very crazy levels.
00:22:15And I had no reference
00:22:16at that time.
00:22:17So it was an experience
00:22:18that impacted me a lot
00:22:22and somehow
00:22:23it stayed there
00:22:24as a seed
00:22:25that has grown later,
00:22:26as I am telling you,
00:22:28with everything
00:22:29about my relationship
00:22:30with shamanism and so on.
00:22:31Because in the end
00:22:32there are many ways
00:22:33to access that
00:22:34that they call the mystery.
00:22:35Ayahuasca,
00:22:36have you tried Ayahuasca?
00:22:37Yes.
00:22:38And Ayahuasca
00:22:39has a whole preparation,
00:22:40I don't know.
00:22:44What has it caused in you?
00:22:45Because I imagine
00:22:46that everyone has
00:22:47a different experience.
00:22:48Ancestral medicines
00:22:50basically help you
00:22:51clean the house.
00:22:52According to these cultures,
00:22:55any plant is medicine
00:22:58that can kill you
00:22:59or cure you
00:23:00if you find
00:23:01the right dose.
00:23:03I went to the Amazon
00:23:04with Christian,
00:23:05a friend,
00:23:06who was going to say
00:23:07boom!
00:23:08Anticancer.
00:23:09Do you see this?
00:23:10There is a millenary
00:23:11culture.
00:23:12And fear of making a mistake
00:23:13too,
00:23:14because you have to be
00:23:15very, very responsible.
00:23:16And in the West,
00:23:17what do you tell me?
00:23:18When people open
00:23:19the drawers of houses
00:23:20and have 15 pills
00:23:21and do like this,
00:23:22fear of making a mistake,
00:23:23right?
00:23:24Exactly.
00:23:25We live in an intoxicated society,
00:23:26these people have
00:23:27a millenary relationship
00:23:28with nature.
00:23:29Once there is
00:23:30the cleaning,
00:23:31in its physical aspect,
00:23:33there is also
00:23:35the cleaning
00:23:36in the spiritual
00:23:37and the self-knowledge.
00:23:41Static trances,
00:23:43visionary,
00:23:44are basically a training
00:23:46to be more connected
00:23:47with yourself
00:23:48and with what surrounds you.
00:23:50Of course,
00:23:51there is a prohibitionist
00:23:52culture of drugs,
00:23:53so basically people say
00:23:54no, drugs are
00:23:55to freak out,
00:23:56to hallucinate,
00:23:57to get high.
00:23:59Also,
00:24:00also.
00:24:01But in this context
00:24:02it is a form of learning.
00:24:04You can't do this alone
00:24:05and I go to the jungle
00:24:06and I get hit four times.
00:24:07You have a teacher,
00:24:09it is convenient for you
00:24:10to have a teacher
00:24:11or a leader
00:24:12who takes care of you
00:24:13and who helps you
00:24:14to sustain that journey.
00:24:15And you learn
00:24:16to get to know yourself.
00:24:17Suddenly,
00:24:18you see yourself here
00:24:19and there
00:24:20and you say,
00:24:21oh,
00:24:22I thought it was this
00:24:23and I am that.
00:24:25But instead of
00:24:26understanding it here,
00:24:27you understand it
00:24:28in an integral way,
00:24:30almost like on the phone
00:24:32and that moves you a lot.
00:24:34Did you change a lot
00:24:35with that experience?
00:24:37That right now
00:24:38is a pillar
00:24:39of the person I am.
00:24:41Did something happen to you
00:24:42that you decided
00:24:44to get into
00:24:46the subject?
00:24:48I made a trip to Mexico
00:24:49seven years ago.
00:24:51I had that curiosity,
00:24:52that intrigue.
00:24:53I made a trip
00:24:54with a ceremony.
00:24:55I didn't really know
00:24:56where I was getting into
00:24:57and I got into
00:24:58a very strong trip
00:24:59and then I attended it.
00:25:00So,
00:25:01I have been looking
00:25:02for people who know
00:25:03who I can meet
00:25:05and I have traveled
00:25:06to different places
00:25:07to attend it.
00:25:09And then,
00:25:10as I told you,
00:25:11I am curious.
00:25:12I have read,
00:25:13I have read,
00:25:14I have interviewed
00:25:15a neurologist,
00:25:16I have asked,
00:25:17I have been informed.
00:25:18Because I am not only interested
00:25:19in the
00:25:23ancestral,
00:25:24indigenous part,
00:25:25I am very interested
00:25:26in that part,
00:25:27but I am also interested
00:25:29in the western perspective.
00:25:30I am western.
00:25:31I am not going to
00:25:32go to the jungle
00:25:33and tell you
00:25:35it could be,
00:25:36but no.
00:25:38I have tried to take them
00:25:39to my territory.
00:25:41And now I have made
00:25:42a movie
00:25:43in which I have made a trip
00:25:44through the Mexican geography
00:25:45going to see teachers
00:25:47and I have worked on it
00:25:48for two and a half years.
00:25:50I have worked with
00:25:51different people,
00:25:52I have worked with
00:25:53different substances.
00:25:54So,
00:25:55there is a moment
00:25:56when you start
00:25:57to have certain references
00:25:58about what things mean,
00:26:00what is learning,
00:26:01which is like meditating.
00:26:02I thought you were
00:26:03a completely,
00:26:04not dark guy,
00:26:05but you had a...
00:26:07Well,
00:26:08that's because of Berlin.
00:26:09That one stays
00:26:10with the story
00:26:11of the character.
00:26:12Yes, but look,
00:26:13I said,
00:26:14hello.
00:26:15Speak well,
00:26:16you are a good actor.
00:26:17He says,
00:26:18hello, good morning.
00:26:19Look,
00:26:20like Berlin.
00:26:21Two plus two
00:26:22is four.
00:26:24Tremendous.
00:26:25And I say,
00:26:26that is a projection
00:26:27of the character.
00:26:28That is a projection
00:26:29of the people.
00:26:30Obviously, obviously.
00:26:31In fact,
00:26:32if you want to go to Berlin
00:26:33and I stay with you.
00:26:34Yes, me too.
00:26:36No, no.
00:26:37Obviously.
00:26:38I have said it several times.
00:26:39Spending the afternoon
00:26:40with that character
00:26:41would be great,
00:26:42but spending a month
00:26:43with him
00:26:44must be complicated.
00:26:45No, I love it,
00:26:46I love it.
00:26:47I have never
00:26:48made a portrait in my life.
00:26:49No one, no one, no one.
00:26:50Well,
00:26:51the next time
00:26:52they tell you
00:26:53that I have a portrait,
00:26:54you are going to think about it.
00:26:55The day that
00:26:56blew my mind
00:26:57I was watching
00:26:58Miguel Ángel's David,
00:26:59because I already told you
00:27:00that I really like art
00:27:03and...
00:27:04What a weird ear.
00:27:08It's a joke, it's a joke.
00:27:11It's a joke, please.
00:27:12It was
00:27:13my return
00:27:14to fiction in Madrid
00:27:16after that time
00:27:17that I had disappeared
00:27:18and it was
00:27:19the first character,
00:27:20there my name was Ramón Campos,
00:27:23a producer
00:27:24that I owe a lot to
00:27:25and who became
00:27:26a great friend of mine.
00:27:27He is a great friend
00:27:30who gave me
00:27:31the first character,
00:27:32mature and clumsy.
00:27:46Your first years
00:27:47as an actor,
00:27:48how were they?
00:27:49Well, look,
00:27:50I started
00:27:51crushing.
00:27:52The first person
00:27:53I talk to
00:27:54who tells me
00:27:55that you started
00:27:56crushing.
00:27:57Crushing.
00:27:58I had no idea
00:27:59and the casting I was going to,
00:28:00they caught me.
00:28:01They caught me
00:28:02in a great theater company
00:28:03that did international tours,
00:28:04from there they see me,
00:28:05they give me a protagonist,
00:28:06from there they see me
00:28:07in the production of Almodóvar,
00:28:08they give me another protagonist.
00:28:09I did like this
00:28:10and then I did like this.
00:28:12I mean, everything I went up
00:28:13I went down, but...
00:28:14Because the shit
00:28:15fell free.
00:28:16But it fell free
00:28:17and also without tools
00:28:18I had no experience,
00:28:19so the fall was tremendous.
00:28:20Explain to me
00:28:21why does that happen?
00:28:22If you are doing well
00:28:23and everything,
00:28:24you are doing well
00:28:25to find yourself.
00:28:26I think that life,
00:28:27retrospectively
00:28:28or in perspective,
00:28:29discovers values
00:28:30that in its present moment
00:28:31it did not have.
00:28:32For example,
00:28:33when I was
00:28:34sunk in misery,
00:28:35ruined,
00:28:36frustrated,
00:28:37thinking that my life
00:28:38was a catastrophe,
00:28:39completely convinced
00:28:40that the profession
00:28:41had passed for me,
00:28:42I went to my father's town
00:28:44and I was there for a year.
00:28:46That was a very hard year.
00:28:48But time
00:28:49has made it
00:28:50a capital year
00:28:51in what I am right now.
00:28:52Wait,
00:28:53you lost your job
00:28:54overnight?
00:28:55I lost my job,
00:28:56I didn't get a job,
00:28:57suddenly I got a job
00:28:58and I fell.
00:28:59I got into that loop.
00:29:01And when it started to go wrong,
00:29:02economically speaking,
00:29:03we are talking about
00:29:05not having anything to eat,
00:29:06that you had to go
00:29:07to your parents' house,
00:29:08I mean,
00:29:09everything ended at that level?
00:29:10I always had support
00:29:11in my family
00:29:12and I came back to Galicia
00:29:13and my family
00:29:14gave me support.
00:29:15How old are we talking about?
00:29:16I was 32 there.
00:29:18You are old,
00:29:19you look old, but...
00:29:20No, of course,
00:29:21with a 4-year-old daughter.
00:29:23With a 4-year-old daughter
00:29:24that you say,
00:29:25I am not able to support
00:29:26my daughter,
00:29:27a very hard moment,
00:29:28a very hard moment.
00:29:29I remember,
00:29:30this is a wonderful
00:29:32anecdote,
00:29:34I remember
00:29:37I had a house,
00:29:40I could eat,
00:29:41it was not cold,
00:29:42I was not under a bridge,
00:29:43with the support of my family.
00:29:45But I remember
00:29:46that my greatest luxury
00:29:47was to have a chocolate
00:29:49in a place
00:29:50where I could go
00:29:51and read the press.
00:29:53A chocolate.
00:29:55Every three or four days
00:29:57I said,
00:29:58chocolate, chocolate.
00:30:01And I remember
00:30:03being in a bakery
00:30:04reading and drinking
00:30:05my chocolate
00:30:06and suddenly he looks at me
00:30:07from the bar and says to me,
00:30:09how well you live.
00:30:14You make it incredible,
00:30:17how well you live.
00:30:18And I was
00:30:20stunned
00:30:22at an unknown level
00:30:23and as I had no references,
00:30:24because I already told you
00:30:25that I was a bright guy,
00:30:29I did not know how
00:30:30to process much of that.
00:30:32I was stuck.
00:30:34Be careful
00:30:35to sit down
00:30:36how your head goes
00:30:37and the heart
00:30:38you have in front of you
00:30:39because many times
00:30:40you can be wrong.
00:30:42But I gave an incredible value
00:30:43to that chocolate
00:30:45and that moment
00:30:46of the newspaper.
00:30:47I am a very grateful person
00:30:48with life
00:30:49because I know
00:30:50what it is like
00:30:51to drink hot tea.
00:30:52I try to enjoy it
00:30:54but not at any price,
00:30:55not in any way,
00:30:58not if it is a way
00:30:59that does not seem
00:31:01enriching
00:31:02in the intimate.
00:31:03I take care of that part
00:31:05and I take care of it
00:31:06every second of my life
00:31:08because I know
00:31:09that one day
00:31:10you can stay
00:31:11after the wave
00:31:13and say,
00:31:14what happened?
00:31:15Because that can be
00:31:16very real.
00:31:18But I try to take ground
00:31:20at every step.
00:31:22How long did you live
00:31:23with your daughter
00:31:24or your daughter's mother?
00:31:25Were you a couple?
00:31:26Yes,
00:31:28I had a 21-year relationship
00:31:30with my daughter's mother
00:31:31whom I love very much
00:31:32and we get along very well
00:31:33but we separated
00:31:35and my daughter lives
00:31:36very close to where I live
00:31:37in Madrid.
00:31:38Perfect,
00:31:39so you lived all your life
00:31:40with your daughter?
00:31:41Yes, yes, yes
00:31:42until I was 18 years old.
00:31:44And how were you as a father?
00:31:45Or how are you as a father?
00:31:46How were you as a father
00:31:47when your daughter was a girl?
00:31:48My partner,
00:31:49Tantiana,
00:31:50tells me
00:31:51that I am delicious as a father.
00:31:53Well, it is questionable.
00:31:55But
00:31:57I am basically
00:31:58the same as everyone else.
00:32:01One of the greatest efforts
00:32:02of my life
00:32:03is to be the same as everyone else.
00:32:04I don't care who you are.
00:32:05And you are.
00:32:06My daughter, you
00:32:08or the lady
00:32:09who sells me fruit
00:32:10today in the market.
00:32:11Or the great director.
00:32:12I am the same.
00:32:13The thing is that
00:32:14I have a lot of affection
00:32:15for my daughter.
00:32:17But I don't sell her
00:32:18more than I can.
00:32:20I don't tell her
00:32:21what she has to do.
00:32:22I am one of those people
00:32:23who think that the best
00:32:24I can give my daughter
00:32:25if I want to invest in something
00:32:26is in preparation.
00:32:28So I prefer
00:32:29not to leave her anything
00:32:30because that is not
00:32:31my obsession now.
00:32:32Are you interested in money?
00:32:37I come from a culture
00:32:39where earning a living
00:32:40has been a value.
00:32:42I have gone the other way.
00:32:44I am bad with money.
00:32:46I didn't like
00:32:47what money brought.
00:32:49But after that crisis
00:32:50I realized
00:32:51that there was
00:32:52some rebellious
00:32:53teenage attitude.
00:32:54Money is important
00:32:55to keep your daughter.
00:32:57So that your daughter
00:32:58has the studies.
00:33:00But I have a relationship
00:33:03as far as I can
00:33:04with money.
00:33:05My priority
00:33:06is not having
00:33:07I don't have a car.
00:33:08I have a bike.
00:33:09Do you have a car?
00:33:11No.
00:33:12I don't have a car
00:33:13or a cell phone.
00:33:14I have a broken cell phone.
00:33:17Now I have another one
00:33:18because I needed it
00:33:19because we were filming.
00:33:20I have something here.
00:33:21Show it to me.
00:33:22Another thing?
00:33:23Yes.
00:33:26This is my daughter.
00:33:28And this little painting
00:33:29is mine.
00:33:30But this has been here
00:33:31for years.
00:33:32This was when
00:33:33I did more figurations.
00:33:34You paint well.
00:33:35You have a lot of talent.
00:33:36Well,
00:33:37I do my little paintings.
00:33:38But this was maybe
00:33:39ten years ago.
00:33:40Maybe I painted this.
00:33:41Your daughter was 15 or 17 years old.
00:33:42No, no.
00:33:43My daughter was almost a baby.
00:33:44But there we lived
00:33:45on the beach.
00:33:46Already?
00:33:47No, no.
00:33:48She was less than four years old.
00:33:50There we lived
00:33:51on the beach
00:33:52when I was a hippie.
00:33:54We lived on the beach
00:33:56and she was like Mowgli.
00:33:57She was a wild girl.
00:33:58She lived there
00:33:59with the animals.
00:34:00It was something
00:34:01that I am very happy about
00:34:02that she had
00:34:04that first start
00:34:05on the beach.
00:34:07Yes, yes.
00:34:08Uriel.
00:34:10How is your daughter?
00:34:13Well, my daughter
00:34:14was very shy
00:34:15when she was little.
00:34:16Very, very shy.
00:34:17But shy like crazy.
00:34:19Then,
00:34:20I sent her to Kentucky
00:34:21for a year
00:34:22to study high school.
00:34:25How old was she?
00:34:26Sixteen.
00:34:28She went for a year.
00:34:30It was a big decision.
00:34:32Difficult.
00:34:34But...
00:34:35You had to let go.
00:34:36It was wonderful.
00:34:37I mean,
00:34:38after that trip,
00:34:39she said
00:34:40I'm going
00:34:41because I saw
00:34:42an offer of 30 euros.
00:34:43I'm going to Germany
00:34:44with a friend.
00:34:45I mean,
00:34:46she changed her mind.
00:34:47Now my daughter
00:34:48can travel all over the world.
00:34:49She has a lot of independence.
00:34:51Did you have to be a father-in-law
00:34:52with your daughter?
00:34:55She had a boyfriend.
00:34:56I liked him very much.
00:34:57But she doesn't have him anymore.
00:34:59No, no.
00:35:00I liked him very much.
00:35:01He was a guy
00:35:02I liked very much.
00:35:03I also had to be a father-in-law.
00:35:04Yes, I don't have
00:35:05anything like that.
00:35:06When your daughter comes...
00:35:07Zero.
00:35:08No, me neither.
00:35:09But totally zero.
00:35:10But didn't it happen to you
00:35:11the first time
00:35:12that when they introduce you
00:35:13as the boyfriend,
00:35:14like...
00:35:15And well,
00:35:16you feel something like...
00:35:18Like when you see your daughter
00:35:19hugging him.
00:35:20I don't know.
00:35:21I was curious.
00:35:22Curious about those moments.
00:35:24But I haven't had
00:35:25any of those traumas
00:35:26of parents
00:35:27with their daughters
00:35:28and territorial stuff.
00:35:29I don't have any of that.
00:35:31But at first
00:35:32I'm a person who trusts.
00:35:33No, I find you
00:35:34a very attractive person.
00:35:35I'm serious.
00:35:37I think I love you
00:35:38a little bit.
00:35:39I'm serious.
00:35:40I love you too.
00:35:45I'm going to get drunk.
00:35:46I'm missing you.
00:35:50You'll see from now on.
00:35:51The man in the blanket.
00:35:53Three in the morning.
00:35:54Martín, where are you?
00:35:57Drink the blanket.
00:35:58I'm in a hard moment.
00:36:01But it's wonderful
00:36:02to make friends
00:36:03all over the world.
00:36:04I love it.
00:36:05Yes.
00:36:06I tell you
00:36:07that you already have a friend.
00:36:08And I've also loved
00:36:09being able to...
00:36:10Look, I'm not going to do
00:36:11the typical job-related
00:36:12conversation
00:36:13that we're going to talk about
00:36:14obviously,
00:36:15but I'm going to talk about
00:36:16the human too
00:36:17because you get to know
00:36:18what's behind it.
00:36:19You're a very sweet person.
00:36:20That's my definition.
00:36:21Sweet?
00:36:22Sweet.
00:36:23Sweet.
00:36:24That doesn't mean
00:36:25that your attitude is sweet.
00:36:26If not, you're a person...
00:36:27Sweet.
00:36:28But I like that.
00:36:29Do you like it?
00:36:30Sweet.
00:36:31Yes.
00:36:32Nice.
00:36:33I like that I'm sweet.
00:36:34That's good.
00:36:35Yes, I'm sweet.
00:36:36And very good,
00:36:37obviously very intelligent
00:36:38and I think
00:36:39that you've worked
00:36:40a lot on your ego.
00:36:41But it's true
00:36:42that no one prepares you
00:36:43for this level of exposure.
00:36:45And has that upset you?
00:36:47There was only one month
00:36:50that I got pissed off.
00:36:51That I remember saying,
00:36:53I'm getting weird.
00:36:55Only one month
00:36:56that I remember.
00:36:57In five years.
00:36:58I remember that month
00:37:01it weighed on me.
00:37:04It was the time of the mask.
00:37:06I put on a mask.
00:37:08And in ten days,
00:37:09it disappeared.
00:37:10And I realized
00:37:11that you're in a loop.
00:37:13That I was also
00:37:14saying,
00:37:15it's too much.
00:37:16It's too much.
00:37:17It went away
00:37:19and boom.
00:37:20Then I realized
00:37:22that the level of...
00:37:25This will happen too.
00:37:26But the level is strong.
00:37:27At some point,
00:37:28it's very strong.
00:37:29So I dose myself.
00:37:30From time to time,
00:37:31I disappear,
00:37:32I go to the mountains.
00:37:33And then,
00:37:34there are moments
00:37:35of media attention
00:37:36and I attend them.
00:37:37But I'm only attentive.
00:37:38So let's say
00:37:39that I try
00:37:40to dose my time.
00:37:42I'm not all the time
00:37:43in that level of visibility.
00:37:46I come to do a trip
00:37:47in Latin America
00:37:48like anyone else.
00:37:49Working.
00:37:50Working.
00:37:51And people can't even imagine
00:37:52that maybe it's me.
00:37:53Not even.
00:37:59How did you meet Ateneo?
00:38:00Did you meet him at the peak?
00:38:01Well, Tatiana's case
00:38:02is that she is...
00:38:04She seems to be dry.
00:38:05Diabolically smart.
00:38:06Yes.
00:38:07Oh, what a good word.
00:38:08Diabolically smart.
00:38:10It's true.
00:38:11She has a degree
00:38:12in literature
00:38:13at the Sorbonne.
00:38:14She studied geopolitics.
00:38:15She even did a year of law.
00:38:16She's a great cook.
00:38:18So in the morning,
00:38:19I get up and I say,
00:38:20let's see if I'm able
00:38:21to be up to the task.
00:38:23It's not that she gives me support.
00:38:24It's that she tests me every day.
00:38:29I thought that...
00:38:30I mean,
00:38:31I get up in the morning
00:38:32and I start stretching
00:38:33and I say,
00:38:34let's see if I'm able
00:38:35to keep up with this
00:38:36goddess of nature.
00:38:39She's very smart.
00:38:40She's a hypnotherapist.
00:38:42She's a hypnotherapist
00:38:44and she writes...
00:38:45She does regressions.
00:38:46She does regressions.
00:38:47In fact,
00:38:48Filippo's book
00:38:49was born
00:38:50from the regression
00:38:51that she gave me
00:38:52and then she gave me
00:38:53three more.
00:38:54I don't know.
00:38:55And from what I saw
00:38:56in that regression.
00:38:57It's not that I had
00:38:58a closed opinion.
00:38:59It's how I met Tatiana
00:39:01and then it's the movie
00:39:02that I saw.
00:39:03And in that movie
00:39:04there was a guy,
00:39:05a Roman soldier
00:39:06called Filippo,
00:39:07in times of the Roman Empire,
00:39:09when Rome was crazy
00:39:10about his expansion
00:39:11around the world,
00:39:12he travels to the East
00:39:13to control the people
00:39:14who give us trouble
00:39:15and he sees a rebel group,
00:39:18he meets the master,
00:39:20the leader
00:39:21of the group
00:39:22who is a spiritual master,
00:39:23he infiltrates
00:39:24and changes his life.
00:39:25That's the movie.
00:39:27I haven't had the opportunity
00:39:28to read it in its entirety
00:39:29but I have studied it.
00:39:30Well...
00:39:32I heard about it
00:39:33a few days ago.
00:39:34I love you
00:39:35and this is how you treat me.
00:39:36But I'm honest.
00:39:37Yes, yes.
00:39:38I'm honest.
00:39:39There aren't any books
00:39:40in Chile yet.
00:39:41They're coming.
00:39:42I'll send you one.
00:39:45Wait, wait.
00:39:46But there's no obligation.
00:39:47No, imagine.
00:39:48I'd love to read it.
00:39:49My friends, read my book.
00:39:50I did a regression once.
00:39:52Really?
00:39:53I have a lot of things
00:39:54in common
00:39:55without realizing it.
00:39:56You talk about your wife,
00:39:57Gabriela, Papi...
00:39:58We're a mirror.
00:39:59Yes, there are a lot of things
00:40:00in common.
00:40:03Oh, Tatiana Choch.
00:40:06She's beautiful.
00:40:07Very beautiful.
00:40:10That was in Mexico
00:40:12three years ago
00:40:14or so
00:40:15in Coyoacán.
00:40:17It's a neighborhood
00:40:18that I totally love
00:40:19where Frida Kahlo's house was.
00:40:22Where many
00:40:23of the Latin American
00:40:24authors of the boom
00:40:26and their most emblematic works.
00:40:28And there we met
00:40:29Tatiana Georgievich.
00:40:30I think that was the day
00:40:31before we left.
00:40:32And Tatiana has something...
00:40:34Tatiana...
00:40:35Does the story
00:40:36of Hamelin's flutist
00:40:37go here?
00:40:38Yes, of course.
00:40:39Tatiana is Hamelin's flutist.
00:40:40She starts playing
00:40:41and they start following her.
00:40:42No, no.
00:40:43Tatiana goes to the jungle
00:40:44and monkeys come
00:40:45and macaws
00:40:46like dogs
00:40:47while Tatiana
00:40:48does this.
00:40:49It's an impressive thing.
00:40:52It must have something
00:40:53to do with wild creatures
00:40:54that's why...
00:40:58The wildest one
00:40:59is still here.
00:41:01Because I know
00:41:02the feeling of a macaw too.
00:41:06Tatiana, Tatiana.
00:41:07It's very, very...
00:41:10Cut!
00:41:13We'll start
00:41:14at night time.
00:41:15No, it's perfect.
00:41:16Cheers, Tatiana.
00:41:17Cheers, Tatiana Georgievich.
00:41:18She's very, very pretty.
00:41:19And did you see
00:41:20that the Serbs,
00:41:21the Croats,
00:41:22in general,
00:41:23in these lands
00:41:24are either very white
00:41:27or dark-skinned
00:41:28like her.
00:41:29Yes, because
00:41:30there's a lot of...
00:41:31There's a lot of mix.
00:41:32Gypsy, right?
00:41:33Yes, absolutely.
00:41:34And she made you
00:41:35a regression.
00:41:36No, she made me several.
00:41:37She made me four
00:41:38to write the book of Philip
00:41:39and then she made me
00:41:40another one
00:41:41about another life.
00:41:42And when she made you
00:41:43a regression...
00:41:44Yes.
00:41:45I said,
00:41:46I love her.
00:41:47Yes, yes, yes.
00:41:48You see?
00:41:49You have to have
00:41:50a lot of confidence in her
00:41:51because...
00:41:52I love her
00:41:53because she gave me
00:41:54a lot of confidence
00:41:55after being with her
00:41:56for a while
00:41:57and I said,
00:41:58I trust her.
00:41:59Of course.
00:42:00In a way,
00:42:01I'm very curious.
00:42:02I don't go with anyone
00:42:03who tells me,
00:42:04let's go on a trip.
00:42:05Look,
00:42:06check out your thing.
00:42:07No, not at all.
00:42:08But not for that.
00:42:09Because then,
00:42:10if I have to put...
00:42:11I'm used to
00:42:12my professional life.
00:42:13If I have to put,
00:42:14I have to put.
00:42:15Is it romantic?
00:42:16Look.
00:42:17Ultra-mega-romantic.
00:42:18Yes, I think
00:42:19love is
00:42:20one of the
00:42:21great experiences
00:42:22in life.
00:42:23Yes,
00:42:24I love to be loved.
00:42:25I love to be loved.
00:42:26I take care of it.
00:42:27I enjoy it.
00:42:28Yes, yes, yes.
00:42:29She...
00:42:30The taste, brother.
00:42:31Yes.
00:42:32Obvious.
00:42:33No, no.
00:42:34For me...
00:42:35I've done...
00:42:36Well,
00:42:37you haven't seen
00:42:38my career here
00:42:39in our beautiful country.
00:42:40Your career...
00:42:41Your career...
00:42:42Sentimental.
00:42:43No, no.
00:42:44My career...
00:42:45No, no.
00:42:46My professional career.
00:42:47Professional.
00:42:48Professional.
00:42:49I've done a lot of
00:42:50love shows.
00:42:51A lot of love shows.
00:42:52Of love.
00:42:53Yes.
00:42:54For me, this show
00:42:55is not a conversation show.
00:42:56It's a love story show.
00:42:57Oh.
00:42:58I've realized that
00:42:59it's a love story show.
00:43:00Love with the father,
00:43:01love with the wife,
00:43:02love with the children,
00:43:03love with work.
00:43:04If I manage to connect
00:43:05with you,
00:43:06with your love story,
00:43:07it's that.
00:43:08And besides,
00:43:09there's one thing
00:43:10that interests me a lot.
00:43:11Because, again,
00:43:12you say,
00:43:13I'm romantic.
00:43:14I mean,
00:43:15you can be able
00:43:16to do this show,
00:43:17to manage
00:43:18Viña del Mar,
00:43:19to have a public show,
00:43:20to produce a movie,
00:43:21and you can lose
00:43:22the control
00:43:23or the axis
00:43:24in a sentimental relationship,
00:43:25in intimate life.
00:43:26It's one of the spaces
00:43:27with the greatest exposure.
00:43:28And for me,
00:43:29that's...
00:43:30I have a lot of...
00:43:31I'll stop saying it.
00:43:32A lot of curiosity
00:43:33about life.
00:43:34Loving is not just
00:43:35loving.
00:43:36Loving is not just
00:43:37loving.
00:43:38Loving is not just
00:43:39loving.
00:43:40Loving is not just
00:43:41loving.
00:43:42Loving is not just
00:43:43loving.
00:43:44Loving is not just
00:43:45loving.
00:43:46Loving is not just
00:43:47loving.
00:43:48Loving is not just
00:43:49loving.
00:43:50Loving is not just
00:43:51loving.
00:43:52Loving is not just
00:43:53loving.
00:43:54Loving is not just
00:43:55loving.
00:43:56Loving is not just
00:43:57loving.
00:43:58Loving is not only
00:43:59how beautiful,
00:44:00how cool,
00:44:01how I love you,
00:44:02how I treat you...
00:44:03I love you,
00:44:04Tatiana,
00:44:05but it's an amazing journey.
00:44:06Growing up with someone
00:44:07that stimulates you,
00:44:08and deserves to be respected,
00:44:09can be an amazing journey.
00:44:10I take it that way.
00:44:11You try to be
00:44:12at the same level
00:44:13and you get along with each other.
00:44:14I'm lucky in that respect.
00:44:15Because,
00:44:16in the end,
00:44:17It's the best show I've ever been on in my life.
00:44:23Did you like the conversation?
00:44:24It was wonderful.
00:44:26Soon...
00:44:30We're going to start recording the promotional jokes.
00:44:33Of course.
00:44:34We have to do it.
00:44:35You've given a lot of interviews.
00:44:37A thousand, I don't know, fifteen thousand interviews.
00:44:40It's true that in the end...
00:44:43A lot of interviews.
00:44:44A lot.
00:44:45That's why I say this conversation, I don't know, I'm at the level.
00:44:48Yes, but you are a marvel of communication.
00:44:50It's fine.
00:44:51Great.
00:44:53At that moment I feel that communication can be very simple,
00:44:57but it can move things.
00:44:59Not very big.
00:45:00It can move things.
00:45:01And that's a wonderful feeling.
00:45:03I'm living with you.
00:45:09No, David, it pulls me like that, it pulls me like that.
00:45:11I don't hear it, I don't hear it.
00:45:12No, David, it pulls me like that, it pulls me like that.
00:45:13I don't hear it, I don't hear it, I don't hear it.
00:45:14Cut, cut.
00:45:16Cut it out.
00:45:17I loved it.
00:45:18No, the thing is that...
00:45:20I find that there is nothing more beautiful,
00:45:23and above all at this point in our age,
00:45:25because we have the same age.
00:45:27I don't know what to say.
00:45:28At this point in our relationship.
00:45:32Sorry, sorry, sorry.
00:45:33I want to go back to Tatiana.
00:45:34Well...
00:45:36Let's talk about Tatiana.
00:45:38She does the regressions for you,
00:45:40she's a hypnotherapist.
00:45:42She writes.
00:45:43She writes.
00:45:45Are you afraid of this,
00:45:46that suddenly a project comes,
00:45:47you've been there for eight months,
00:45:48or you've been there for nine months,
00:45:51and that it can take you out a little bit
00:45:55of this beautiful moment
00:45:56that you're living in a relationship,
00:45:58the trips,
00:45:59because your work is very vexing.
00:46:01No, but I'm in a moment right now
00:46:02that I swear I don't stop.
00:46:04You don't stop.
00:46:06I'm literally in the most Olympic year of my life,
00:46:10because I've produced, directed a film
00:46:12that I'm rewriting now,
00:46:15that I'm going to edit
00:46:16while I'm shooting a series of fiction
00:46:19in which I have a lot of presence.
00:46:22I've just made a science fiction film
00:46:25and collaborated on an animation film,
00:46:28and I knew I was coming this year and a half.
00:46:31I've just come from working
00:46:32in the hotel room,
00:46:35and it may be that we still have
00:46:36a work session when I get there,
00:46:38but I knew this was going to be
00:46:39the year and a half.
00:46:40It doesn't mean that I want to go
00:46:41to this pace all my life,
00:46:43but since we had a forecast,
00:46:46I was aware of what was coming at me,
00:46:49and when I don't see
00:46:50that I can do it,
00:46:51I say, no,
00:46:52but I swear that my flesh
00:46:53got like this a few months ago
00:46:56because it gives me anxiety,
00:46:58because it gives me an idea
00:46:59of the year and a half that was coming.
00:47:02Our life is like that.
00:47:04Can she accompany you?
00:47:06No, but it's not a plan
00:47:07for you to be shooting.
00:47:09Now she's with me here
00:47:10because we're developing the project,
00:47:11we've gone to Oaxaca.
00:47:13I'm not a guy who's going to disappear
00:47:14for four months
00:47:15because then I'll catch a plane
00:47:16or whatever.
00:47:17If I'm working,
00:47:18I'll catch a plane
00:47:19and I'll see you
00:47:20or you'll come to see me.
00:47:21It's a matter of getting organized.
00:47:22But it's an intense year and a half.
00:47:24I'm not afraid of that at all.
00:47:25I'm not afraid of that at all.
00:47:27The fear is
00:47:29not to be attentive
00:47:30and that your life is...
00:47:34Ah, you're overdoing it,
00:47:35you're deluding yourself.
00:47:36Yes, and that you haven't found out.
00:47:38Obviously.
00:47:39But then life is transit,
00:47:40there are cycles,
00:47:41life can take many turns.
00:47:43I don't give anything for nothing.
00:47:44I live with all the fullness
00:47:45of the moment I'm in,
00:47:47which doesn't mean
00:47:48that it's a demanding moment
00:47:49and a lot of work
00:47:51and a lot of vertigo.
00:47:53But it's true that I'm
00:47:54living a beautiful moment
00:47:55of my life
00:47:56and I'm grateful for that
00:47:58and I'm giving back
00:47:59to what life gives me
00:48:00the best.
00:48:02The best, really.
00:48:04The best I can think of.
00:48:06But we'll see
00:48:07what happens tomorrow.
00:48:08Life can take a turn
00:48:11and that I'm in a good moment
00:48:12doesn't mean that
00:48:13last semester
00:48:15I had two
00:48:17hard moments
00:48:18in life.
00:48:20Well, life is like that.
00:48:22Life...
00:48:24You say,
00:48:25what a beautiful day!
00:48:26And suddenly you're
00:48:27in the perfect moment
00:48:28because there's been a cycle.
00:48:29Life is like that.
00:48:30The journey.
00:48:31And I think
00:48:32it's true that there are
00:48:33a lot of people
00:48:34who have a hard time
00:48:35and I don't want to be frivolous
00:48:36because saying it here
00:48:37with a little heat
00:48:38is cool.
00:48:39No, of course.
00:48:40But that we live
00:48:41in a society
00:48:42that sometimes
00:48:43doesn't tolerate
00:48:44frustration.
00:48:45I want it, I want it now!
00:48:46Well, things have
00:48:47a process.
00:48:48That's why I like
00:48:49listening to you
00:48:50because deep down
00:48:51I see the result
00:48:52of your career
00:48:53and you don't have to
00:48:54know many times
00:48:55everything that's behind it.
00:48:56And there's the grace.
00:48:57Ok, let's take a break
00:48:58and we'll keep talking
00:48:59in the living room.
00:49:00What do you think?
00:49:01Ok, ok.
00:49:02Did you have a good time?
00:49:05It's very nice.
00:49:06Yes, right?
00:49:07Yes, yes, very good, very good.
00:49:08Yes, yes, it's great.
00:49:09Yes, it's great.
00:49:10You make this.
00:49:22You make...
00:49:23When did you start
00:49:24painting, Pedro?
00:49:27At 32 or 33, 34
00:49:32I jumped over
00:49:33that door that brought me
00:49:35to this moment
00:49:36where I paint and paint
00:49:37and I keep going.
00:49:39I used to paint more figurative things, more portraits,
00:49:42but lately I'm more and more expressionist.
00:49:45There's always something figurative,
00:49:47but I'm less and less interested in the similarity.
00:49:50There are people who say,
00:49:51you've painted this thing, my son does it.
00:49:54If your son does it, leave him alone.
00:49:57Let him do it.
00:49:59I have several Picasso in my house.
00:50:01Well, congratulations,
00:50:02there's this very prejudiced thing
00:50:05that painting implies that you have to
00:50:08do photography.
00:50:09It's a very tedious thing.
00:50:10I paint badly, but I have a great time.
00:50:14And right now I'm going to make you a portrait.
00:50:17Really?
00:50:18Are you going to frame this?
00:50:21Up to you.
00:50:24Up to you with the decisions of your house.
00:50:25I've been given paintings that I say,
00:50:27but what is this?
00:50:28I mean, I'm going to frame you.
00:50:29Then you can put it in a book and say,
00:50:31look what Pedro Alonso did to me.
00:50:34No, I'm going to put it on the wall of my house.
00:50:35Look what Pedro Alonso did to me.
00:50:37You can say that.
00:50:38Great, great.
00:50:39You can say that.
00:50:40And here, what do I do?
00:50:42Nothing, nothing.
00:50:43I saw a movie about, I think it was Renoir,
00:50:46the Impressionist painter, a biopic of these.
00:50:49And I loved it because suddenly
00:50:51someone asked him, what do I do?
00:50:52And he said, nothing, nothing, whatever you want.
00:50:54And then he painted whatever he wanted.
00:50:55I mean, that I make you a portrait
00:50:56doesn't mean that I'm going to take a picture of you.
00:50:59You can do whatever you want.
00:51:00And you can, and you go on talking?
00:51:02Yes, yes, yes, yes.
00:51:04It may be that I start saying crazy things,
00:51:07but, but, well, you have to deal with it.
00:51:11And do you draw with both hands?
00:51:13But, I have to tell you,
00:51:14you draw with both hands.
00:51:15It's not true.
00:51:17But with the right one,
00:51:18you get the temptation that you want to do it well.
00:51:20Good.
00:51:21And with the left one,
00:51:23I fuck up, I mean,
00:51:25but no, I mean,
00:51:27when I see that what,
00:51:29but it's literally like that.
00:51:30Yes.
00:51:31I mean, I want to do it well,
00:51:32and I get away from doing it well,
00:51:33because doing it well
00:51:34is sometimes a very heavy burden.
00:51:36It's that the perfect is the enemy of the good, right?
00:51:39What?
00:51:40The perfect is the enemy of the good.
00:51:43Exactly.
00:51:44And sometimes,
00:51:45you can make a catastrophe
00:51:46and nothing happens.
00:51:48I don't know what to tell you,
00:51:49because I don't know if I have to tell you.
00:51:50No, talk about whatever you want.
00:51:52Okay, tell me.
00:51:53Then you'll pay for it.
00:51:56I'm portrayed in your soul,
00:51:57not in your appearance,
00:51:58in your soul.
00:51:59But in my soul,
00:52:00if your soul gets cloudy
00:52:02and my appearance is dark,
00:52:04it's not my responsibility,
00:52:05it's yours.
00:52:07My soul,
00:52:08my soul can be very cloudy.
00:52:11Hey, is it true that the Casa de Papel
00:52:13didn't start at the beginning?
00:52:15The Casa de Papel
00:52:16had a spectacular premiere,
00:52:19I remember it well,
00:52:21associated with a game
00:52:23of these fat guys,
00:52:24Real Madrid,
00:52:25and it started very strong.
00:52:27Already?
00:52:28Very strong.
00:52:29They were very good in Spain,
00:52:31which is strange,
00:52:32they were very good,
00:52:33and then it started
00:52:34with a slight drop,
00:52:35a slight drop,
00:52:37and then it started to go down more.
00:52:39And what,
00:52:40after a first run,
00:52:41which was understood
00:52:42as a super success,
00:52:44ended well,
00:52:46but without a commitment
00:52:48to make a second season.
00:52:50That is,
00:52:51it's okay,
00:52:52it wasn't a catastrophe,
00:52:53but it wasn't...
00:52:54A hit,
00:52:55as it later became?
00:52:56Not at all,
00:52:57not at all.
00:52:58Then the Netflix variable disappears
00:53:00and the perfect storm comes.
00:53:03And why do you think
00:53:04that in Netflix
00:53:05the Casa de Papel explodes?
00:53:07Well, I think it wasn't a series
00:53:10for a generalist television,
00:53:12or it had a niche
00:53:14of potential audience
00:53:16not so big.
00:53:18I mean,
00:53:19when the series
00:53:20are for generalist television,
00:53:21I don't know if it was the same here,
00:53:22it has to appeal to the teenager,
00:53:24to the mother, the father,
00:53:25the grandfather.
00:53:26This had a niche.
00:53:27Did you start to realize
00:53:28that the Casa de Papel changes your life
00:53:30in terms of everyone knowing you,
00:53:32I don't know how many countries
00:53:33and all the craziness there is?
00:53:34Does it change your life?
00:53:35Well, what am I doing here
00:53:36talking to you?
00:53:39That if I wasn't going to be here
00:53:40talking to you,
00:53:41of course my life would change.
00:53:42At first I denied it,
00:53:44I denied it,
00:53:45it was like,
00:53:46no, this will happen.
00:53:47But after almost two years,
00:53:49suddenly I said,
00:53:50wow,
00:53:51this is a huge hit
00:53:54and I tried
00:53:56to find
00:53:57what was my way of doing it
00:53:59because
00:54:01I understand that you had to make decisions.
00:54:03I settled in the
00:54:05don't run,
00:54:06don't run,
00:54:07go very slowly.
00:54:08And when you realized
00:54:10that this had already exploded,
00:54:12did something particular happen to you?
00:54:13Yes.
00:54:14What happened to you?
00:54:15Well, look,
00:54:16shortly after I met Tatiana,
00:54:18literally,
00:54:19the day my head exploded
00:54:21was this.
00:54:22I was watching
00:54:23Miguel Ángel's David,
00:54:25because I already told you
00:54:26that I really like art
00:54:28and
00:54:29what a weird ear.
00:54:33It's not a joke, it's not a joke.
00:54:36It's a joke, please.
00:54:37Please,
00:54:38I got a nose job,
00:54:39please leave me alone,
00:54:40it's not possible.
00:54:41I'm doing the whole thing
00:54:42because as it's being a bit of a mess,
00:54:45suddenly I'm doing the whole thing.
00:54:47No, I was watching
00:54:48Miguel Ángel's David.
00:54:52And when I go to museums,
00:54:55I try to spend some time
00:54:56with pieces that interest me.
00:54:57Miguel Ángel's David,
00:54:58well, I didn't go there,
00:54:59I stayed for a while,
00:55:00I watched it,
00:55:01I see it,
00:55:02and I say, wow,
00:55:03I take a picture,
00:55:04I even make a video,
00:55:06boom,
00:55:07a person turns,
00:55:08and so,
00:55:09boom,
00:55:10a person turns
00:55:12and I feel
00:55:13that something is starting to happen.
00:55:15And I say,
00:55:17I don't know,
00:55:18something is happening here
00:55:19that I can't control,
00:55:20that I don't know what it is,
00:55:21but that guy is recording me.
00:55:23And suddenly,
00:55:24the whole museum turns.
00:55:27And I say,
00:55:29I didn't have any reference,
00:55:31no reference.
00:55:34And I say,
00:55:36but he's recording me.
00:55:42And I say,
00:55:43what madness is happening here?
00:55:54And I say,
00:55:55what madness is happening here?
00:55:56And he says,
00:55:57what madness is happening here?
00:55:58And I say,
00:55:59what madness is happening here?
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01:03:20And I say,
01:03:21what madness is happening here?
01:03:22And he says,
01:03:23what madness is happening here?
01:03:24And I say,
01:03:25what madness is happening here?
01:03:26And he says,
01:03:27what madness is happening here?
01:03:28And I say,
01:03:29what madness is happening here?
01:03:30And he says,
01:03:31what madness is happening here?
01:03:32And I say,
01:03:33what madness is happening here?
01:03:34And he says,
01:03:35what madness is happening here?
01:03:36And I say,
01:03:37what madness is happening here?
01:03:38And he says,
01:03:39what madness is happening here?
01:03:40And I say,
01:03:41what madness is happening here?
01:03:42And he says,
01:03:43what madness is happening here?
01:03:44And I say,
01:03:45what madness is happening here?
01:03:46And he says,
01:03:47what madness is happening here?
01:03:48And I say,
01:03:49what madness is happening here?
01:03:50And he says,
01:03:51what madness is happening here?
01:03:52And I say,
01:03:53what madness is happening here?
01:03:54And he says,
01:03:55what madness is happening here?
01:03:56And I say,
01:03:57what madness is happening here?
01:03:58And he says,
01:03:59what madness is happening here?
01:04:00And I say,
01:04:01what madness is happening here?
01:04:02And he says,
01:04:03what madness is happening here?
01:04:04And I say,
01:04:05what madness is happening here?
01:04:06And he says,
01:04:07what madness is happening here?
01:04:08And I say,
01:04:09what madness is happening here?
01:04:10And he says,
01:04:11what madness is happening here?
01:04:12And I say,
01:04:13what madness is happening here?
01:04:14And he says,
01:04:15what madness is happening here?
01:04:16And I say,
01:04:17what madness is happening here?
01:04:18And he says,
01:04:19what madness is happening here?
01:04:20And I say,
01:04:21what madness is happening here?
01:04:22And he says,
01:04:23what madness is happening here?
01:04:24And I say,
01:04:25what madness is happening here?
01:04:26And he says,
01:04:27what madness is happening here?
01:04:28And I say,
01:04:29what madness is happening here?
01:04:30And he says,
01:04:31what madness is happening here?
01:04:32And I say,
01:04:33what madness is happening here?
01:04:34And he says,
01:04:35what madness is happening here?
01:04:36And I say,
01:04:37what madness is happening here?
01:04:38And he says,
01:04:39what madness is happening here?
01:04:40And I say,
01:04:41what madness is happening here?
01:04:42And he says,
01:04:43what madness is happening here?
01:04:44And I say,
01:04:45what madness is happening here?
01:04:46And he says,
01:04:47what madness is happening here?
01:04:48And I say,
01:04:49what madness is happening here?
01:04:50And he says,
01:04:51what madness is happening here?
01:04:52And I say,
01:04:53what madness is happening here?
01:04:54And he says,
01:04:55what madness is happening here?
01:04:56And I say,
01:04:57what madness is happening here?
01:04:58And he says,
01:04:59what madness is happening here?
01:05:00And I say,
01:05:01what madness is happening here?
01:05:02And he says,
01:05:03what madness is happening here?
01:05:04And I say,
01:05:05what madness is happening here?
01:05:06And he says,
01:05:07what madness is happening here?
01:05:08And I say,
01:05:09what madness is happening here?
01:05:10And he says,
01:05:11what madness is happening here?
01:05:12And I say,
01:05:13what madness is happening here?
01:05:14And he says,
01:05:15what madness is happening here?
01:05:16And I say,
01:05:17what madness is happening here?
01:05:18And he says,
01:05:19what madness is happening here?
01:05:20And I say,
01:05:21what madness is happening here?
01:05:22And he says,
01:05:23what madness is happening here?
01:05:24And I say,
01:05:25what madness is happening here?
01:05:26And he says,
01:05:27what madness is happening here?
01:05:28And I say,
01:05:29what madness is happening here?
01:05:30And he says,
01:05:31what madness is happening here?
01:05:32And I say,
01:05:33what madness is happening here?
01:05:34And he says,
01:05:35what madness is happening here?
01:05:36And I say,
01:05:37what madness is happening here?
01:05:38And he says,
01:05:39what madness is happening here?
01:05:40And I say,
01:05:41what madness is happening here?
01:05:42And he says,
01:05:43what madness is happening here?
01:05:44And I say,
01:05:45what madness is happening here?
01:05:46And he says,
01:05:47what madness is happening here?
01:05:48And I say,
01:05:49what madness is happening here?
01:05:50And he says,
01:05:51what madness is happening here?
01:05:52And I say,
01:05:53what madness is happening here?
01:05:54And he says,
01:05:55what madness is happening here?
01:05:56And I say,
01:05:57what madness is happening here?
01:05:58And he says,
01:05:59what madness is happening here?
01:06:00And I say,
01:06:01what madness is happening here?
01:06:02And I say,
01:06:03what madness
01:06:04is happening here?
01:06:05And he says,
01:06:06what madness is happening here?
01:06:07And I say,
01:06:08what madness is happening here?
01:06:09And he says,
01:06:10what madness,
01:06:11is happening here
01:06:12and I say,
01:06:13what madness,
01:06:14that involves joy?
01:06:17What joy…
01:06:19Mind yahoo!
01:06:26Gypsy soul.
01:06:27That was my first movie.
01:06:28Your first movie?
01:06:31Yes.
01:06:32What do you mean?
01:06:33What do I do? Do I smile?
01:06:35No, no, no. You don't smile.
01:06:37I'm very wrinkled.
01:06:40Do you get a treatment?
01:06:44If I'm operated on?
01:06:46Uh-huh.
01:06:47Uh-huh?
01:06:48What's with that laugh?
01:06:50Did it come from behind?
01:06:51No, I'm not asking if you've been operated on.
01:06:52I'm asking if you get a skin treatment or something.
01:06:55No, no, no. I put on the cream that's on the toilet seat.
01:07:00After shaving?
01:07:01Yes.
01:07:02And sometimes at night. And then when you shave…
01:07:06Every day?
01:07:08Well, not every day.
01:07:10It's very useful.
01:07:11But for example, the last movie I did, I had a make-up artist who did things for me at the end, and it was wonderful.
01:07:17I'm a little…
01:07:20I'm a little clumsy, but I also think that if you live a healthy life, it's easier.
01:07:27Yes, it's easier.
01:07:28And nothing about surgery?
01:07:30No, I'm surprised by the culture of surgery here in Latin America.
01:07:35People do a lot of surgeries.
01:07:37It's not so normal there.
01:07:39And I don't like it, personally.
01:07:41It doesn't give me any good vibes.
01:07:43You wouldn't get surgery?
01:07:45No, and I don't like it.
01:07:48Personally, I don't like it very much.
01:07:52When I see it, I see very strange things.
01:07:59Who said that?
01:08:00José Sacristán said that at 20 you have the face that touches you, and at 50 or 60, the face…
01:08:06That you can.
01:08:07That you won.
01:08:08Ah, yes.
01:08:09That you keep winning.
01:08:10And that statement resonated with me a lot.
01:08:13Well, life, what happens to you, is there.
01:08:17And you have to face it.
01:08:20And this obsession of always looking young.
01:08:23Well, time goes by.
01:08:26I read an article the other day that talked about getting old in a healthy way,
01:08:32but without denying how old you are.
01:08:36My brother told me the other day,
01:08:38why don't you dye your hair?
01:08:39My older brother told me.
01:08:40Your brother?
01:08:41Yes.
01:08:42He says, don't dye it white.
01:08:43I say, yes, man, I'm getting old.
01:08:44He says, well, dye it.
01:08:45I say, I'm going to dye my hair.
01:08:46I can't even think of it.
01:08:48Unless you have to act with a character you have.
01:08:50But that's another thing.
01:08:51There I put what they tell me.
01:08:53There I put what they tell me and that's it.
01:08:55But that's my job.
01:08:56No, I love it, I love it.
01:08:58No one has ever made me a portrait in my life.
01:09:00No one, no one, no one.
01:09:02Well, the next time they tell you that I have a portrait,
01:09:04you're going to think about it.
01:09:07No, please, I've had a very hard experience.
01:09:11What do you expect from the future, Pedro?
01:09:14Not work-wise.
01:09:15I told you that I have a knife on the table to cut expectations.
01:09:19I don't think about it.
01:09:21If I'm focusing my intentions on something,
01:09:26it's...
01:09:31using the good things that are happening to me
01:09:35to do things in a way that makes me feel honoured with my day to day.
01:09:42Some people will think it's good, others will think it's bad.
01:09:46But to go more...
01:09:49more directly to what I understand to be
01:09:55a way of putting together what makes me keep growing, learning, enjoying, sharing.
01:10:01And if I'm doing well, it's wonderful to take advantage of it.
01:10:05But above all, taking care of the way I do things.
01:10:08I think more in terms of gardening.
01:10:10I say, I like gardening.
01:10:13I enjoy it.
01:10:14I don't like this bad grass, but it's wild.
01:10:18I didn't expect it to grow.
01:10:20In fact, I have a little garden and I make it grow like this.
01:10:23This has grown. I don't like it. I'm taking it away.
01:10:26But day by day.
01:10:28I don't say, I want you to make me a garden.
01:10:30And here and there.
01:10:32No. Wild mode.
01:10:34I mean, open to whatever comes.
01:10:37In a way that allows me to recognise myself in whatever comes.
01:10:42Here you look a bit like Dracula, don't you?
01:10:44Well, you're in a very dark part.
01:10:46At night.
01:10:47No, but we all have a dark part and it's not bad.
01:10:52I want to tell you something.
01:10:56I'm a person who generally doesn't say this, but I'm going to tell you.
01:11:05No, I'm going to tell you two things.
01:11:07One now and one later.
01:11:08I find that you are entering a state that is very interesting.
01:11:11That you are using many forms of expression.
01:11:16In a very genuine way to communicate.
01:11:19And to generate communication between others.
01:11:23And that automatically generates an expansion of your way of looking at life.
01:11:28Either through literature, in this case what you have published.
01:11:33Through your film.
01:11:35Through painting or drawing.
01:11:37Through acting.
01:11:39So I have no doubt that there is a lot left to deliver.
01:11:44And I think you are going to be an agent of change.
01:11:48Of many things.
01:11:49That maybe in this world you don't...
01:11:51Maybe you have incorporated it.
01:11:55But maybe you don't dimension it.
01:11:58Because you are indeed a person who, through your charm,
01:12:01your way of speaking and your way of expressing yourself,
01:12:05through that road, that vehicle,
01:12:07you are starting to transmit very interesting things.
01:12:11I feel very good today, Diego.
01:12:13You left me with things to think about.
01:12:15I think there are people in their homes too.
01:12:18You were very simple.
01:12:20I think that's a characteristic of yours.
01:12:22And I think that...
01:12:24There are no boundaries to answer this question.
01:12:26No.
01:12:27I think so. I say it humbly.
01:12:29Well, no, thank you.
01:12:31Those were beautiful words.
01:12:35Well, if any of that...
01:12:38helps to run the air and the communication...
01:12:41That interests me.
01:12:42What you say resonates with me.
01:12:45If I can, to a greater or lesser degree,
01:12:48help the energy to run,
01:12:50in a time like this, so tense...
01:12:53No, it's very good.
01:12:54What you are doing is very good.
01:12:56That's true.
01:12:57And I'm waiting, let's say,
01:12:59for them to call you again to do another project.
01:13:01Well, I thank you.
01:13:03For this wonderful conversation,
01:13:05and for your hospitality, and for your magic, brother.
01:13:08Magic?
01:13:09Magic, magic.
01:13:10The magic...
01:13:12The magic flows, right?
01:13:14Yes, it flows.
01:13:15The savouriness.
01:13:16The magic, yes.
01:13:17My film has something to do with this...
01:13:20I know.
01:13:21And I was going to wait for a long time.
01:13:22...trajectory.
01:13:23And here you will get to know a new culture,
01:13:25and also,
01:13:26of people who, obviously,
01:13:28also attract your attention.
01:13:43There are no boundaries for you in this question.
01:13:45No.
01:13:46That's what I think.
01:13:47I say it humbly.
01:13:48Well, no, thank you.
01:13:49Those were beautiful words.
01:13:54Well, if any of that...
01:13:56is useful for the air and communication to flow,
01:13:59I'm interested in that.
01:14:01What you say resonates with me.
01:14:04If I can help the energy to flow,
01:14:08in a time like this, so tense...
01:14:12No, it's very good.
01:14:13What you're doing is very good.
01:14:15That's true.
01:14:16And I'm waiting, let's say,
01:14:17for them to call you again to do another project.
01:14:21Yes.
01:14:26In a moment, this will be a cover.
01:14:29Let's see.
01:14:30I swear this has caused me a lot of trouble.
01:14:32They're bad, they're bad.
01:14:34They're bad.
01:14:36They're bad, they're bad.
01:14:37You did two?
01:14:38They're bad, they're bad.
01:14:39What a note.
01:14:41They're bad, no.
01:14:42It's great.
01:14:43What you did two times...
01:14:44The principle of honesty has been clear so far.
01:14:47I love it.
01:14:48Now you can say,
01:14:50a roasted potato, Pedro, what do you think?
01:14:52No, Pedro, I love it.
01:14:54I love it because...
01:14:56I mean, you dedicated time to see what was...
01:15:00But I'll do more, I'll do more.
01:15:01No, no, and I love it because I don't like it...
01:15:04I stay there like,
01:15:05tomorrow I have to...
01:15:06Look, look, look.
01:15:07No, no, no.
01:15:08Here are the two.
01:15:10The enlightened and the dark.
01:15:14I love it.
01:15:15No, I'm going to frame this.
01:15:16And the thing is,
01:15:17you're going to frame it.
01:15:18Put it in a...
01:15:20No, no, no.
01:15:21For me this is worth a lot.
01:15:22In a box.
01:15:23Well, I thank you.
01:15:24No, thank you.
01:15:25For this wonderful conversation,
01:15:26and for your hospitality,
01:15:27and for your magic, brother.
01:15:29No, magic?
01:15:31Magic, magic.
01:15:32The magic...
01:15:34The magic is...
01:15:35It flows, right?
01:15:36Yes, it flows.
01:15:37The savouriness.
01:15:38The magic, yes.
01:15:39And I have a gift for you.
01:15:40I have two gifts.
01:15:41Look.
01:15:42Yes, more gifts.
01:15:43This is our officer Skechers.
01:15:45He will love the product of the shoe.
01:15:47This is a Skechers shoe.
01:15:48Skechers.
01:15:49Do you know the brand Skechers?
01:15:50It's in Spain.
01:15:51It's everywhere.
01:15:54I think it sounds like that.
01:15:56Yes, yes, yes.
01:15:58This is a gift for you.
01:16:00Enjoy them.
01:16:02Because they are also black,
01:16:03as you like them.
01:16:05Thank you very much.
01:16:06And they are in a wonderful style.
01:16:07Thank you very much.
01:16:08So this...
01:16:09I'll keep it.
01:16:10I'll never go out on the street without my...
01:16:12Skechers.
01:16:18I have everything.
01:16:19I received them.
01:16:20They are for you, man.
01:16:22I'll never go out on the street
01:16:23without my Skechers.
01:16:24My life is a fiction movie.
01:16:29As I told you,
01:16:30this bottle is wonderful.
01:16:33It's very, very, very good.
01:16:35No, this is very good.
01:16:36But this, which is next,
01:16:37is made by an artist
01:16:38that I admire a lot.
01:16:39I have a painting of him.
01:16:40It's called Isamullo.
01:16:41It's from the Viña Vic.
01:16:44Wow.
01:16:45Take it with Tatiana.
01:16:46Total art, right?
01:16:47Yes.
01:16:48And drink it with Tatiana
01:16:49because this is an extraordinary wine.
01:16:50Drink it with her alone.
01:16:51Don't send it to anyone.
01:16:52Just the two of you.
01:16:53Or...
01:16:54With my mother.
01:16:55That's what I was going to say.
01:16:56With my mother.
01:16:57Does your mother drink wine?
01:16:58Yes, my mother drinks a little wine
01:16:59from time to time
01:17:00and sometimes I always drink with her.
01:17:01Great.
01:17:02You're going to enjoy this.
01:17:03I'm going to take it to Purita, my mother.
01:17:04Purita, this is for you
01:17:05with a lot of love.
01:17:06I'll keep it for you.
01:17:07Of course, I'll take it.
01:17:08And this gift that I'm going to give you...
01:17:11...with a lot, a lot...
01:17:14This is the jewel of diamonds
01:17:16and gold 24 carats
01:17:18that you usually give to the guests.
01:17:22Look, you open it.
01:17:23You want me to open it?
01:17:24You're going to love it.
01:17:25You're going to love it.
01:17:26This is chosen with a lot of love for you.
01:17:28No, it's very good.
01:17:29The package was very nice.
01:17:33You're on a trip,
01:17:34on a permanent search trip.
01:17:36Yes.
01:17:37And I think this will make sense to you.
01:17:44Hello!
01:17:50I drew it
01:17:53for this photo.
01:17:55This photo.
01:17:57Because I really like to shoot
01:18:00for reasons
01:18:02that have to do with archaic cultures,
01:18:04as you already know.
01:18:05And I drew
01:18:07from photos of this community.
01:18:09How crazy.
01:18:10These are the segments.
01:18:11They lived further south, right?
01:18:12They are in Tierra del Fuego.
01:18:13Of course.
01:18:15Thank you very much.
01:18:16I love it.
01:18:17I think that
01:18:20it's very important.
01:18:21Here is the initiation ceremony
01:18:22of the segments of Tierra del Fuego.
01:18:25How wonderful.
01:18:26Here are unpublished photos.
01:18:28And here ceremonies were held.
01:18:31My film has something to do with this...
01:18:33I know.
01:18:34And I'm going to look forward to it very much.
01:18:36And here you will get to know a new culture
01:18:38of villages that obviously
01:18:40also draw your attention.
01:18:43And the rites they had.
01:18:44How good.
01:18:45So I give it to you with great pleasure.
01:18:47I love it.
01:18:48I take it as a treasure.
01:18:49I really mean it.
01:18:50I love it.
01:18:51You will enjoy it.
01:18:52You will enjoy it.
01:18:55Here you have to write
01:18:57any reflection.
01:18:58Now?
01:18:59Yes.
01:19:00This is to finish the program.
01:19:02I have very clear what I'm going to put.
01:19:04Great.
01:19:06And you just sign it.
01:19:07I'll leave you here.
01:19:08Right now you do it yourself.
01:19:10But you know what?
01:19:14Yes.
01:19:15I'm very simple.
01:19:16Don't make me more tender here.
01:19:17You have already told me very beautiful things.
01:19:18I'm going to finish the program like this.
01:19:19How exciting.
01:19:21In Spain, men kiss?
01:19:22How do they kiss?
01:19:24I kiss my friends.
01:19:26Yes, of course.
01:19:27With music it would be much more romantic.
01:20:25Are you OK?
01:20:56It's OK.
01:21:14I'm going to leave you here.
01:21:17Thank you very much.
01:21:18You can't move now.
01:21:21But I'm going to introduce myself.
01:21:22You can introduce yourself.
01:21:23I'm Ignacio.
01:21:25A pleasure. Thank you for your art and for your music.
01:21:28This song sounds familiar to me.
01:21:33I'll finish in a second and then I'll go home.
01:21:37No, I'm going to sleep.
01:21:38Oh, really, Tatiana?
01:21:39I mean, I like you, but I like him better.
01:21:45Yes, Tatiana, he betrayed me. Where is this guy?
01:21:51But Martín is going to keep him.
01:21:55Thank you, thank you.
01:21:57Thank you, thank you.
01:21:59I'll give you a kiss.
01:22:03I'll leave you to it.
01:22:04You have to read the last part and thank you from the bottom of my heart.
01:22:08Do you have a friend in Chile?
01:22:09A pleasure. And when you go to Spain, call me.
01:22:12You'll find out.
01:22:14And thanks to the team, too, for the generosity and hospitality.
01:22:18Thank you very much.
01:22:18Thank you all.
01:22:19It goes like this.
01:22:20Dear Martín, the first time I saw you, you sheltered me.
01:22:25Don't forget that.
01:22:26For the warmth of our meeting and for it to be repeated.
01:22:28Thank you for the hospitality.