Pucks with Haggs host and guest Mick Colageo look at the Bruins rookie camp roster that doesn't include Fabian Lysell and Georgii Merkulov, arguably their two biggest prospects
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00:00Pucks with Hags is brought to you by Price Picks and the Game Time app.
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00:12I believe this is the 122nd episode of the Pucks with Hags podcast.
00:17With me, longtime friend and colleague, Mick Colaggio.
00:20Mick, please tell everybody hello and tell them where they can find your work, my friend.
00:24Ah, you can find me at my Rink Wrap blog, which I link to social media such as X and
00:29Facebook, and I'm in the current yearbook issue of the Hockey News with the Bruins article
00:36among 31 other fabulous presentations.
00:40Very good.
00:41Check that out online and on newsstands.
00:43Hockey News is a fantastic publication.
00:46We're recording this episode on 9-11, Mick, so, you know, I just would like to give a
00:52shout out really quick in, you know, memory of Ace Bailey, Garnett Ace Bailey, two-time
00:58Stanley Cup winner for the Boston Bruins, legendary guy, gregarious guy, like a, you
01:05know, a fun player that was on those Stanley Cup winning teams with Bobby Orr.
01:10I have a little bit of a connection to Ace Bailey through my dad because my dad actually
01:14like did some work for him when my dad had a trucking company.
01:20Actually, he and Ace Bailey drove all the way up to Canada with like a truck full of
01:25hockey equipment and then drove all the way back and it was the day after the Phil Esposito
01:32Ray Bork ceremony.
01:34So Ace Bailey was in rare form, needless to say, when they were driving up to Canada and
01:40back.
01:41And my dad like was a huge Bruins fan at that time and that era, the Bobby Orr era Bruins.
01:48So it was like a super treat for him to be able to like hang out with Ace Bailey all
01:51day and he was telling me about how they went up to customs and, you know, the customs agents
01:56started asking Ace Bailey all these questions about like the equipment and where it was
01:59going and Ace is like got his Stanley Cup ring on and he's like adjusting it while he's
02:03talking to the customs agents and like kind of showing it in their face.
02:07He like had all these fun stories about Ace from those trips.
02:10So he sounded like a fantastic guy, was obviously an excellent hockey player and it just continues
02:17to bring into focus just, you know, remembering 9-11, the lives that we lost, the people
02:23that we lost, the tragic event it was and that we're never going to forget any events
02:27that happened that day.
02:28We're never going to forget any of us where we were that day when it happened and all
02:31the lives that were incredibly negatively impacted by that tragic event.
02:36So just, you know, a moment to, you know, kind of reflect on Ace Bailey here, Mike.
02:41Well, we know in our neighborhoods, big, you know, Twin Towers, it's a lot of people
02:46and it wound up getting close to home for a lot of people.
02:50I was on the highway going north to Wilmington for Bruins training camp when I heard on WBZ
02:59AM 1030 that there had been a plane that struck one of the skyscrapers in New York and I'm
03:08thinking, huh?
03:09Like, I'm thinking like a Cessna or something, when a Cessna hit the Empire State Building,
03:15you know, and I'm not even talking about King Kong, but I didn't realize the full extent
03:22of it until they said the second one hit and this was now a terrorist attack on the United
03:29States.
03:30Got to Wilmington, watching it on the big screen and Jerry Chevers walks in and says
03:35Ace was on the plane.
03:39And we also know Mark Bavis, Boston University terrier.
03:44They were both working for the Los Angeles Kings and were flying out to camp.
03:48And my brother did a wonderful painting of Ace Bailey's dramatic gold at late in game
03:53one of the 1972 Stanley Cup Final, where he turned Brad Park and roofed it on Eddie Jockerman.
04:02You know, the Bruins had led that game like five to one.
04:05Rangers came back and everybody's, oh, no, here we go, because they still have 1971 and
04:09Ken Dryden still firmly in their minds.
04:11And so the regular season, even though they knocked another one out of the park, didn't
04:15mean anything.
04:16So the fans, well, Ace came to the rescue that day and set the Bruins on course to win
04:20the Stanley Cup again in 72.
04:24It was him.
04:25It was an individual move by a guy who was playing fourth line with Mike Walton.
04:28The Bruins was top nine, was a hard nut to crack.
04:33And he got in there and, you know, late in the game, like less than three minutes of
04:36regulation and he did it and the Bruins never looked back.
04:43But my brother did this painting of Ace and I don't know why so many years went by before
04:48we finally made him aware of this painting that was at the end of my parents' hallway
04:53in East Walpole all those years.
04:55But my brother started making small prints of it and I brought an 8x10 to Ace to have
05:00him autograph one and give him one.
05:02And he was beside himself that this had ever happened.
05:05And you know, it's been, it's been, you know, in the sports museum, in the garden, you know,
05:11since then.
05:12And it was even on TV 38 when he was doing it in the early 70s when my brother was showing
05:18it with Tom Larson between periods.
05:21But anyway, Ace, the last thing he did before he got on the plane was tell his, you know,
05:26tell his wife, make sure you get this framed.
05:29Really?
05:30Oh, I didn't even know.
05:31Wow.
05:32This is an incredible story that has, it's just, I'll remember more and more if I keep
05:37talking.
05:38So I'll stop now.
05:39Yeah.
05:40Yeah.
05:41But, but, but yeah.
05:42So there's our family connection, you know, through my brother Don, who's an amazing artist.
05:47He did these scoreboards and, and yeah, but that was something he did when he was in,
05:55when he was just out of high school.
05:58And we brought it to a Bruins game back when you could sit on the visiting bench during
06:01the pre-games.
06:02Last game of the 72-73 regular season, the Bruins had just traded Ace Bailey to get Gary
06:07Doak back and the Canadians came over to the, saw us sitting there and Don's got his painting
06:12there and everybody starts autographing the thing.
06:14Peter Mohavlich, all the way across Sunrise, big, big signature.
06:18Bob Wilson did it, Johnny Busick signed the back of it, Jimmy Roberts, and the list goes
06:24on.
06:25Even got John Kiley's, the organist's autograph on it.
06:28So yeah, so that's a long history of that one and commemorating Ace and fortunately
06:36we were able to make contact with the family and get them some, you know, deluxe versions
06:42of it.
06:43So in the aftermath, so, but Ace, awesome guy, loved knowing him, you know, later in
06:49life as when he was a pro scout visiting the garden on behalf of the Kings.
06:54So it's pretty cool that the Monarchs, when they were in the American League, commemorated
06:59him as well, the way they did.
07:01They really, they really, they really did a lot, you know, and Barbara Poitier with
07:07the foundation and just amazing the work that they did with the Bailey family in the wake
07:13of all of that and extended his legacy and for a long time, it was really awesome.
07:19Yeah, all of it well-deserved because he was such a well-liked person, a great hockey
07:25player, obviously, but like touched a ton of lives and was, you know, within that fabric
07:31of the hockey community that we always talk about where everybody takes care of everybody
07:34else.
07:35And it's, it's pretty neat that you have that personal connection and that, you know, that,
07:40that painting was so meaningful to him and his family.
07:44That's really cool.
07:45I mean, even on paintings, he's wearing his trademark white turtleneck.
07:48I mean, Espo always wore a black turtleneck, Ace always wore a white turtleneck.
07:52It's a funny thing that guys would just have their little idiosyncratic things that they
07:57did back when they played, but that was his.
08:01Very cool.
08:03So you know, it's great just going over some memories and then we both had, you know, somewhat
08:10personal connections to him, but no doubt, I mean, when you cover the Bruins for long
08:13enough and even when you just follow hockey long enough, you begin to develop these like
08:16connections that you never thought you would.
08:20And it's just one of the great parts of being part of the hockey culture.
08:23So you know, let's, we'll never forget Ace Bailey.
08:28We're always going to remember him.
08:29It's you know, it's, it always comes up on September 11th.
08:35It's one of the first names and people that I think about every September 11th.
08:38So we're thinking about Ace and his family again this September 11th.
08:43Let's move on to the hockey and the Boston Bruins and like things are starting to crank
08:48up now with the Bruins Mick first day of rookie camp.
08:52They're going to the prospect showcase in Buffalo on the weekend.
08:57An interesting roster.
09:00No Fabian Lysel, no Jerzy Merkulov.
09:04You know, Riley Duran's on the roster, Trevor Kuntar, John Farinacci, Frederick Brunet,
09:12Jackson Edwards.
09:13So there, there are some guys on there that'll be interesting to watch.
09:19But it's interesting that they left them off of that rookie camp roster, perhaps.
09:24And we talked about this before the podcast started, perhaps a nod to them that they're
09:28kind of viewed now as NHL players or, you know, NHL hopefuls, but not prospects anymore.
09:35But like, there's a part of me too, though, that feels like going to that prospect showcase
09:40and really like going in and dominating would have been a nice start to NHL training camp
09:45for them.
09:46You know, a little bit of a kickstart going into a camp where they're going to be competing
09:50for jobs.
09:51And if I were Fabian Lysel or if I were Jerzy Merkulov, I might have pushed to go to that
09:59camp and be a dominant player and kind of ride that momentum going into regular training
10:02camp, knowing how much is on the line and also just wanting to make a good impression.
10:06You know, like I feel like wanting to do more makes the better impression rather than sort
10:11of holding out of stuff or being held out of stuff.
10:15Yeah, I guess there's a few different prisms to look at this.
10:19I can certainly see the one you're angling toward there.
10:23I'm assuming that the Bruins must have tried to send a message to both guys that, look,
10:28you've been in professionals now for two years.
10:31I mean, note that Brett Harrison is back in the rookie camp here.
10:35Yeah, Ryan Mast too.
10:36He's been around for a while.
10:38Yeah, right.
10:39I feel like Ryan Mast is like the oldest 21-year-old I've ever seen.
10:44There's a funny couple of names in here.
10:47Drew Bavaro.
10:48Is he Mark Bavaro's kid or something?
10:50No, he is not Mark Bavaro's kid.
10:51I think he's from Florida.
10:52He is from Florida, but that doesn't mean Mark Bavaro's.
10:56Is he still around?
10:57Yeah, I don't think he's I'm like 99.9% sure he's not Mark Bavaro's kid and I don't think
11:04he's.
11:05Bavaro had a brother, too, that played in the NFL.
11:06I don't think it's his brother.
11:07That's right.
11:08I don't think there's any relation.
11:09OK.
11:10And then there's defenseman Loke Johansson, who I'm assuming is Luke.
11:16No, it's Loke.
11:17Oh, is it Loke?
11:18No, it's Loke.
11:19OK.
11:20He was a draft pick.
11:21He was a draft pick this past year.
11:22He was like a 6th or 7th round pick out of Sweden.
11:25OK.
11:26Well, I guess what goes in Finland doesn't necessarily go in Sweden because we found
11:29out that Younis Korpisalo is actually Younis, even though there's two O's.
11:34And then the one the one other birthday I want to note here is Charlie Hilton, six foot
11:40five.
11:41He's the youngest guy in the rookie camp.
11:43He actually is 17 years old.
11:46Yeah.
11:47He doesn't turn he doesn't turn 18 until the day that I turned 68.
11:55So I got exactly 50 years on this dude.
12:01So that's crazy.
12:02I hope he I hope he makes it so I can discuss this with him sometime and maybe we can share
12:07a cupcake or something.
12:10Yeah, you get to share a birthday cupcake, kick around, sing each other happy birthday.
12:18Are you one?
12:19Are you to go through the whole list?
12:20I'm only I'm only 50, only 50 years older than the youngest guy in Bruins rookie camp.
12:26I remember how the morning when Reggie Lemelin retired, because I think that was the day
12:30that there was not a single NHL or left that was older than me.
12:34See, like, I remember I go back to my moment like that is when Sagan was a rookie and drafted
12:44and he was I'm old enough to be his father, basically, like biologically, like that was
12:52the one where like when I saw they was born in 1992.
12:55That was the year I graduated high school.
12:57I was like 17, 18.
12:58I was like, oh, man, like that's that's crazy.
13:02Oh, and by the way, this camp is one goaltender away from being the first Brook Bruins rookie
13:08camp ever without a 1990s birthday.
13:11I know.
13:12My initial July 5th, ninety nine.
13:15It's crazy.
13:16Not in there.
13:17Everybody's a two thousand or more.
13:18Yeah.
13:19Now it's starting to get old, Mick.
13:20It's time to get old.
13:22No longer creep it up on us.
13:23It's there.
13:24It's no longer about the teenage hockeys hockey anymore that this is rather than the like
13:30esoteric kind of vague sort of names or like names that aren't that familiar, that seem
13:36kind of out there.
13:39What names are you looking at that when we and I believe the games are going to be streamed
13:44on the Bruins website, we're going to be able to see them in their entirety.
13:49That was the word on the street today.
13:50I was wondering that what players are you going to be sort of looking at or what?
13:56Who are you curious to watch of the players that are on that list?
13:59Kutar is the one that really because this kid, this kid, even when he was at B.C., if
14:07a guy came up to him when he was like a freshman at B.C. and gave him any grief, he was like
14:13grab the guy with one arm and twist him into a pretzel without moving like like he was
14:19swatting a fly.
14:20And I'm thinking, oh, this guy might be a pro.
14:23Well, here he is.
14:25And and and he's going to about to play his age, 23 hockey season, and he's from a great
14:33town to produce players, Buffalo.
14:37And I love how this kid plays.
14:39I just hope he can keep up with the NHL pace, because I feel like his foot speed zone to
14:47zone is probably the only question whether or not this kid could develop into a real
14:53bottom six kind of a pill and help an NHL club like the Bruins.
15:00He can play center.
15:01He can play wing.
15:03This kid's pretty versatile and he's pretty nasty.
15:06I think it's just looking forward to seeing whether or not we got an NHL here.
15:11And I think speed is a question.
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16:22Yeah, I mean, the reality of, you know, some of the players that we're watching here, some
16:29of the interesting players that are on the radar, Trevor Quintar is definitely one of
16:34them.
16:35He's one of those gritty sandpapery, you know, net front presences.
16:40We were actually laughing during the practice today because I think a puck, like, bounced
16:44off his, like, shoulder or elbow and went to the net for a goal and we're like, that's
16:48exactly how he's going to score at the NHL level, just, like, plopped in front and having
16:52a puck deflect off him, that kind of stuff.
16:56Don't use them all up.
16:57Yeah, he's definitely a Bruin-style player and I like the way he plays, like, the skill
17:01level's not off the charts, the skating level's not off the charts, but I think he brings
17:06other things to the table.
17:07Could be a really interesting sort of third, fourth line guy with a little bit of, you
17:12know, offensive touch.
17:14I'm really going to be curious to actually watch Riley Duran because he's a guy, I think,
17:20that rides into this rookie camp and this training camp with a lot of momentum and,
17:26frankly, like, he played in the AHL last year, like, he's one of those guys that I guess
17:32you could argue that he could have skipped this prospect camp and this rookie camp if
17:37he really wanted to.
17:38Like, he probably is one of those guys that could have just, like, said no thanks and
17:42waited until NHL camp, especially when he got name-checked by Don Sweeney on July 1
17:48as a guy that's going to be competing, potentially, for a roster spot at the NHL level just based
17:53on the way he looked in Providence at the end of the year.
17:57But he's going to the prospect showcase.
18:00He's going, he's kind of the leader of that team now at rookie camp and he could go in
18:05and really give himself a leg up on some of these other young players potentially competing
18:11for an NHL spot if he has a really good weekend.
18:15And I think it's good on him.
18:17I'm really going to be interested to see what he does, what kind of impact he can have,
18:21if he's a little bit more of a dominant player against maybe some guys that are a little
18:25bit younger than him or, you know, some of his peers.
18:30He's a right shot.
18:31They need right shots.
18:32And the Bruins, you know, they're not looking at the stats.
18:36They know that Providence was down last year compared to the year before.
18:41So Duran was cast in a more of a checking role and that's probably what the Bruins are
18:49happy to see, playing in different roles and seeing his game mature in ways that it's going
18:53to need to in order for him to be useful to them in the short term, at least.
18:59I mean, he won't have to, like, grow a game from ground floor.
19:03He's got that two-way kind of style already and similar to Kunter, but not with as much,
19:09a little more with skill, a little less with the edge, but with sufficiency in both departments
19:15to be a good bottom six player.
19:17That's why they're looking at him.
19:18And I think that you're right.
19:19I think that they're looking at their right wings and they're saying, we have a lot of
19:26keeping an open mind about how this thing turns itself out.
19:30They're not ruling him out for anything right now.
19:31No.
19:32And he's a lot bigger than Kunter, too.
19:35He's a big sort of rangy forward that has ideal NHL size.
19:39Not the fastest guy in the world, but his skating is good.
19:42All of his skills, I think, are pretty good.
19:44And I think he's one of those players, frankly, that he's got a high hockey IQ.
19:51So I think part of the reason he had so much success in the AHL after jumping from Providence
19:57to the AHL was he was surrounded by smart hockey players like himself.
20:01And I think that really put him in a better environment to succeed, where everybody sort
20:06of was on the same page and the same wavelength, thinking the same way.
20:10You know, once you get to the pro level, everybody's got really good hockey IQ.
20:13So they're all sort of like, you know, doing the right things.
20:16Yeah.
20:17As varying skills as they may have, they all understand their roles very, very well and
20:23what they can and cannot do in a game.
20:26The big boys.
20:27And it's amazing.
20:29You can see these little things happen that reveal themselves about how guys, they have
20:33a deeper toolkit than you might realize within their role.
20:38Just like take, for instance, when the Bruins got Pat Maroon.
20:42It was kind of fun watching to see the different ways that Pat Maroon's pretty good.
20:47I didn't really give a long look to when he was playing for the opposition.
20:52Yep.
20:53No, he's got some skill.
20:55There's no question about it.
20:56You know, he's he's definitely like skating speed wise.
21:00He is ultra slow.
21:01There's no question about it.
21:02You know, there's really no other way to put it when you were watching him out there.
21:07And the skating part of it is rough.
21:09And that's what's going to ultimately, I think, make it harder for him to hang on to a spot
21:13at the NHL level.
21:14But you could see the skill level.
21:16You could see the way he thought the game, what he did with the puck, like all those
21:19different things.
21:20He was good.
21:21The game checking routes were amazing.
21:23Yes.
21:24And the way he could cut off and read transition plays and interrupt the you'd think he was
21:31a guy who was a video coach, you know, the way he would think out there.
21:34He just did stuff that was like, wow, he mitigates his lack of speed and then has a lot of tricks
21:41and craftiness when he gets into the contact areas that really got to appreciate him as
21:47a hockey player.
21:49And after that acquisition, sometimes you get a you can see much better close up than
21:54you can from a distance sometimes.
21:56Yeah.
21:57Another guy that'll be interesting to watch is John Ferenacci.
22:00Had a decent season in Providence last year.
22:04Talking to Ryan Mugenel after the rookie camp session today kind of alluded to that the
22:09schedule and the rigors of the HL season and pro hockey kind of made him wear down in the
22:15second half of the year.
22:16He wasn't as effective as he was in the first half.
22:17And that makes sense.
22:19He played like 20 games his last year at Harvard.
22:21So like you went from playing on the weekends and just playing Friday, Saturday or Saturday,
22:26Sunday, whatever, two games a week on the weekends to the HL schedule that's much heavier
22:31and they play, you know, 70 to 80 games.
22:34Providence had a terrible schedule last year.
22:36They got a ton of those three and threes.
22:37Yep.
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23:58So like, you know, it's understandable that the consistency and that the performance level
24:02wasn't quite the same in the second half as he adjusted to that schedule and sort of made
24:07the adjustments diet conditioning wise, like all the stuff that you have to do when you're
24:10pro because much more is demanded of you physically.
24:13It's going to be interesting to see what he does in his second year of pro because there
24:17were a lot of good things he did in the first half of the year when he was one of their
24:20leading scores and he was really effective.
24:21It'll be good to see if he can transition that into like that consistency from beginning
24:26to end this year.
24:28And you know, he was a guy that I think is similar to Riley Duran, who Mujanel mentioned
24:36was a Monty and Chris Kelly kind of player.
24:39I think Farinacci is that same kind of player.
24:41So I would suspect that he's he may see some NHL time this year as well at some point,
24:47but I think he's a guy that I want to see what he does in this rookie camp because he's
24:50another one that should probably be a dominant player at this point in his career.
24:54Yeah, I don't know.
24:56I'm not sure how I feel about about him.
25:00I kind of feel like I need to see him, you know, I suppose I guess the last memory of
25:09him wasn't as impressive as the next one will be for the reasons you just went through.
25:15So I am looking forward to seeing, OK, this kid's going to be 24 in January.
25:22And so it's kind of time for him to decide what his level is going to be as a pro.
25:28And, you know, especially from a skill standpoint, that's going to get determined fairly soon.
25:34You know, he's one of those Crossroads guys and the Crossroads kind of came up for him
25:38rather quickly.
25:39You know, some people seem like they're prospects with a five year window.
25:43His seems shorter to me.
25:45Yeah, I mean, it's hard to have that window when you started college late and then you
25:49went to college for like almost close to the full duration or the full duration.
25:53And then, you know, all of a sudden you're being released in the NHL.
25:56You're at twenty three, twenty four, twenty five.
25:58You really don't have too many years to develop before you're going to start knocking on the door.
26:02It's not going to happen.
26:03Yeah.
26:04Yeah, that's true.
26:05I mean, as much as we want to, you know, think that, look, just when we start getting sick
26:13of guys because they're not there yet and they're not the shiny new toy anymore, a lot
26:19of times they're hiding in plain sight and they're getting better and we're not looking
26:23at them anymore and they're getting better looking all the time.
26:27So you never want to take your eyes off a guy like that.
26:29And that's the discipline that the management teams have.
26:33And that's how they have to go about their business.
26:37The forgotten prospects, the ones that, you know, aren't getting any headlines and they're
26:42still hanging around, they're still farming up those players.
26:45And sometimes they sneak up on a later date.
26:48You just don't know when somebody is going to spike.
26:50I think that Loco was kind of like that, you know, he was sort of in the in Providence
26:54for a couple of years and sort of weren't sure what, you know, he was going to turn
26:58into.
26:59And then all of a sudden he like he turned into like a fourth line option and a guy that
27:03for a couple of years they got some good mileage out of as an energy sort of player.
27:08And then we're able to trade him for a useful part that they brought back in Loteri.
27:12So let's not forget, they still get Parker Wotherspoon, who went through this with the
27:16Islanders.
27:17It's kind of a poster boy for this with the Islanders, you know, behind what was a stack
27:21D the year they went to the conference final in 21.
27:26And it's changed around a little bit.
27:28But the things that he does well in his overall game is just, you know, there were more appealing
27:34options when it comes in physically larger packages to get so many guys, you know, Pula,
27:41Pelic, you know, it's like three or four other ones that I'm mental blocking on right now.
27:49But Wotherspoon wound up becoming an available guy and the Bruins wound up capitalizing on
27:53having a late blooming prospect whose NHL game has been pretty good for them when needed.
28:00And now he's going to be probably going in needing to just compete to make sure he stays
28:06at seven.
28:08And it'll be the left shot option who can slide to the right.
28:12And he's probably the you know, the odds on favor to be the seventh D when the season
28:16opens.
28:17But that's not what he wants.
28:19So it's going to be it's going to be some competition back there.
28:22It sure will be.
28:24And speaking of the back end, I think that's another area to look at a couple of the players
28:29here.
28:30I think Frederick Brunet is a guy that I think, you know, should take a step forward in the
28:35HL this year.
28:36It'll be interesting to watch him play at a, you know, developmental year last year
28:40in Providence was very young for the HL level.
28:44And I think it was an adjustment for him going to pro going against bigger, stronger, faster
28:47opponents.
28:49And then Jackson Edwards, a guy I really want to watch a bit and see how he plays, because
28:53he's raw, but he's got some skills, certainly plays with an edge physically and an attitude
28:59that I think is very Bruins like.
29:01And that's the kind of guy I think could eventually in a year or two turn into a player on the
29:05Bruins back end and a guy that develops into an NHL player.
29:08And I kind of want to see where he's at developmentally right now.
29:12Edward headed into his first full NHL season.
29:15Yeah, it's funny when you look at the both he and Brunet are both 6'3", Edward only weighs
29:21three more pounds.
29:22But by all accounts, Edward is a much more physical player, even though he is a half
29:28a year younger.
29:29Well, Brunet, Brunet fancies him and he was talking about that he kind of fancies himself
29:33an offensive defenseman, a puck moving defenseman.
29:36He's but he said today like he needs to start playing more physical and sort of focus on
29:42that area of the game, because that's where he was maybe a little light last year.
29:46Well, he's he's like Brett Harrison.
29:49But as a defenseman, he's a guy who just needs pro hockey against grown men and then and
29:55then build himself up physically.
29:58And it's kind of for some of these guys, they got the skills, they got the vision, they
30:03got the attitude, but they're string beads.
30:07And I think that he's a guy who who a little like Harrison, maybe not as severe, just needs
30:14time as a pro to build up a body that can withstand the game and that level.
30:22And then and then let's see how far his skills take him, because those are two guys with
30:26a lot of skill.
30:27Yeah.
30:28Edward's I would call it what he's got sneaky skill.
30:32I'm sorry.
30:33I was just saying I was referring to Brunei and Harrison.
30:37But yeah, but I know I know you started this out with Edwards, Edward, excuse me.
30:43And yeah, but I but I like maybe maybe the left shot Kevin Miller there in the making.
30:48Yeah.
30:49Harrison Harrison, to me, is like he's he like he's got a good shot.
30:54There's some things he does.
30:55Well, his size is very good.
30:56There's no question about that.
30:58But like to me, like I've seen enough of him now that he is not fully jumped out enough
31:04at me from a speed point of view, from a, you know, a playmaking point of view, from
31:11a like notice me point of view when he's at these development camps and like he was development
31:15camp this year.
31:16And like that's a point where like when you're his age with his experience level, you should
31:20be dominant, like you should be very noticeable in that kind of environment atmosphere.
31:26Like I do notice his shot occasionally, like he's got a good shot.
31:30He's got a good one timer.
31:31He's got a good, you know, snap the wrist off in tight spaces like that part is, I'd
31:37say the only real thing that I've noticed about him that stands out having watched him
31:42multiple times in the last few years.
31:45So I think he's going to add some dimensions to his game if he's going to continue to,
31:50you know, further advance and maybe get a taste of the NHL.
31:54I just don't think he's a good enough player to get by on like offensive skill.
31:58Yeah.
31:59I mean, probably only Wayne Gretzky could, you know, make it in that body.
32:05I think that he's a kid who's got a great attitude, but I think he's got a long way
32:11to go to get himself there physically and how long that window the Bruins can give him
32:16to make that happen as a minor leaguer.
32:19We'll see.
32:20But he does have a kind of a kind of handsy, you know, in a way that makes you say, well,
32:26maybe this is a guy that, you know, that we'll be hearing about in a few years, but maybe
32:32he'll never get there.
32:33Some people just can't can't pack it on.
32:35Yep.
32:36No.
32:37Yeah.
32:38It'll be interesting to see, like what if he can develop further.
32:42But like, I feel like he's getting to a point where it's either now or never, like very
32:47shortly within the next year or two.
32:49I feel like he's going to really start to bump up what he's doing and, you know, really
32:55sort of like raise his profile as to what he's or go a different direction and like
33:01change the identity of who is a player.
33:03You know what I mean?
33:04Like undergo like a like a Brian Boyle sort of transformation of being, you know, winning
33:10face offs, you know, blocking shots, doing that kind of stuff.
33:16If it's if the offense isn't going to truly come at the pro level, you know, he's definitely
33:21going to get, I'd say, another probably year or two to show what he can do and to really,
33:25you know, push it further.
33:27But but he's you know, you're going to want to see more if he's going to continue down
33:31the path of being a potential like top six guy.
33:34Just not he's not doing enough yet for that.
33:36I think if there's some incremental progress there, then they'll probably keep an eye on
33:41him.
33:42I don't think it's going to be cut bait like in a year from now.
33:46But I do think that I do think that, you know, he has to make some progress physically in
33:51order for him to have a shot at even becoming an effective American League player before
33:57we even start talking about the show.
33:59Absolutely.
34:00All right.
34:01Now, that is some solid NHL rookie camp Bruins rookie camp prospect showcase talk right there.
34:08Mick, thank you very much for joining us to get the ring.
34:13Everybody else out there.
34:14Thanks for listening.
34:15And we'll see you at the ring.