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00:00Six more hostages Hamas captured are found dead in a Gaza tunnel.
00:04Good evening, I'm John Scott and this is the Fox Report.
00:15The IDF says Hamas murdered those six hostages as troops approached their position.
00:21One of those hostages, an Israeli-American.
00:23Team coverage for you this evening, Chief Foreign Correspondent Trey Yingst has more
00:27on those protests and the daring operation that led to the discovery of the hostages.
00:32And the Consul General of Israel in New York, Ofer Akounas, is standing by with Rick's reaction
00:38to this tragic news.
00:40First though, we go to Lucas Tomlinson, he's live at the White House.
00:43Lucas.
00:44John, the White House, like many Americans, saddened to learn this morning about the murder
00:48of those six hostages, their bodies discovered in Rafah in Southern Gaza.
00:53As you mentioned, among them, an American citizen, 23-year-old Hirsch Goldberg-Polen,
00:59who is attending the music festival on October 7th.
01:02President Biden, the Vice President, and the Secretary of State have all spoken to Hirsch's
01:06parents today to offer their condolences.
01:08Now, earlier, Kamala Harris' running mate, Governor Tim Walz, refused to answer a question
01:13about their murders.
01:14What's your reaction to the six hostages being found dead in Gaza?
01:15Thanks, everybody.
01:24There's no answer there from the Minnesota governor.
01:26The White House says National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan held a virtual meeting this
01:30afternoon with the families of the remaining American hostages still being held in Gaza
01:34by Hamas.
01:35In a statement, President Biden said, quote, make no mistake, Hamas leaders will pay for
01:41these crimes, and we will keep working around the clock for a deal to secure the release
01:45of the remaining hostages.
01:47Now, Hirsch's parents recently spoke at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago.
01:51Hirsch spent part of his childhood in Richmond before moving to Israel with his family.
01:56Virginia Senator Tim Kaine reacted to the news earlier on Fox News Sunday.
02:01It is a real tragedy.
02:03I've met his parents, and they have been tireless in coming to the Hill and talking about their
02:08son but talking about the need to find the hostage release deal.
02:10So I can only imagine how painful this news is to them, I really feel for them today.
02:15And it just emphasizes even more, we've got to get this hostage release and ceasefire
02:20deal.
02:21The two halves have to come together.
02:23And here's Senator Tom Cotton reacting to the news earlier.
02:28It's terribly sad news that Hamas murdered, executed these six hostages in cold blood,
02:34apparently shot them in the head shortly before they might have been rescued by Israeli defense
02:38forces.
02:40My heart goes out to all the families, especially Hirsch Goldberg Poland's family, our fellow
02:44American, there are other fellow Americans still to be accounted for.
02:48Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin has ordered the flags in Richmond to half staff.
02:53So far here at the White House, the flags have not been lowered.
02:56John.
02:57All right, Lucas Tomlinson at the White House.
02:59Lucas, thanks.
03:04Israelis have protested for months demanding their government do more to try to free the
03:07hostages.
03:08Tonight, those protests are taking on new intensity as the country grieves the loss
03:13of the six hostages found dead in that Hamas tunnel.
03:17And victims' families blame Prime Minister Netanyahu.
03:20Trey Yankst reports from Tel Aviv.
03:23Thousands of people have gathered in the streets of Tel Aviv and other cities across this country
03:28demanding a hostage deal to see their fellow citizens come home.
03:34Overnight, Israel received devastating news that, according to the military, six Israeli
03:39hostages, including one American citizen, were executed by Hamas inside Gaza.
03:46The event has ratcheted up the pressure on the Israeli government to reach a deal and
03:51bring the remaining Israelis home from Gaza.
03:54There are still more than 100 people, some of them dead, some of them alive, being held
03:58by Hamas inside the Gaza Strip.
04:00And that is why you see so many thousands of people here in the streets demanding that
04:07their fellow citizens be released from Hamas captivity.
04:10They are trying to urge the government to get to the table and get a deal together.
04:15There are clear disagreements between Israeli leadership, between Israel's defense minister,
04:19Yoav Galant, and the country's prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.
04:23For the people here in the streets of Tel Aviv, they are not interested in politics.
04:27They are not interested in what the government has to say unless it is bringing the hostages
04:32home.
04:33Again, they received devastating news overnight that, according to their military, six Israelis
04:38were executed by Hamas inside Gaza.
04:41Time is running out for the remaining hostages, they say.
04:45And the people here in Tel Aviv are demanding that they be released.
04:49John.
04:50Trey Yankst in Tel Aviv, Israel.
04:52Trey, thank you.
04:53For more on the devastating news about those six hostages in Gaza, let's bring in Ofer
04:58Okunas, the consul general of Israel in New York.
05:03Thanks very much for being with us.
05:04And it's terrible, the circumstances here.
05:09What do you say to the Israeli people who are demanding negotiations or some kind of
05:14an end to this hostage deal?
05:17Thank you for having me.
05:20I want to say to you and, first of all, to the families of six Israelis who were murdered
05:29in cold blood by Hamas, I want to send them my condolences from here, from New York.
05:37The problem is not the Israeli government.
05:40It's not about Israel.
05:41It's about Hamas.
05:42It's about actually a Nazi organization who killed, who shot them in their heads in cold
05:52blood and murdered them.
05:54And John, I don't know if you know, this morning nearby Hebron, in the middle of the road between
06:00Jerusalem and Hebron, a Palestinian terror, actually a terrorist, murdered three policemen.
06:09So we are in a very, very complicated situation.
06:13And it's very sad to see these pictures.
06:18By the way, I met Yerushalmi's family.
06:24Here she is, a beautiful family in Tel Aviv.
06:30And it's a sad day.
06:31It's really a sad day.
06:32Well, it's a very sad day, but I just wonder if you feel that the Israeli people's anger
06:38is misdirected.
06:39I mean, they're obviously angry at Benjamin Netanyahu.
06:44And there are apparently some disagreements in his administration on how to best end this
06:50crisis.
06:51And Hamas took these hostages, obviously, to use as bargaining chips.
06:55The wrong address.
06:57The address is actually in the Gaza Tunnels.
07:01The address is Yehia Sinwar.
07:04And the address is Tehran.
07:06It's in Tehran.
07:07It's not in Tel Aviv.
07:08It's not in Jerusalem.
07:10The problem is not in the Israeli cabinet or the Israeli government and not among the
07:16Israelis.
07:17And I think that I was very clear a lot of times.
07:22And I cleared, and we are still doing it.
07:25And we are actually negotiating through the Qatarians, through the Americans, through
07:29the Egyptians, when we are trying to actually bring them home.
07:34And we are saying from here to the Hamas and all the other terror organizations, let them
07:41go.
07:42Let them go.
07:43Those innocent people kidnapped from the Nova Festival, most of them actually kidnapped
07:48from the Nova Festival.
07:50They just want to dance.
07:51And they killed them.
07:52They murdered them.
07:56You mentioned Iran.
07:57And Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullen agrees with you about Iran being the source of the
08:03problem.
08:04Listen to what he had to say this morning.
08:07Iran is the head of the snake.
08:08Iran is the individuals that could actually put pressure on Hamas, too, by simply not
08:13funding them.
08:14And so the people at the weakest at the table, unfortunately, because of the administration,
08:20is America.
08:21We're the weakest at the table.
08:22The two strongest individuals at the table, if they chose to be, would be the two fighting.
08:26That's going to be Hamas and Israel.
08:30Is there any way to pressure Iran into getting these hostages released, the remaining hostages?
08:37First of all, we must understand the problem.
08:40And the problem, as I said, is the fact that Hamas and Hezbollah and the Houthis in Yemen
08:46as well, they're all actually Iranian proxies.
08:50The head of the snake is in Tehran, in Iran.
08:54I think that all the international community must put Iran under pressure.
09:00If they won't, if they will not be under pressure, then they will feel free to do whatever they
09:06want, actually to ask from or to demand from Hezbollah to throw and to attack Israel, and
09:13then to deny that they actually used an Iranian missile to kill 12 innocent teenagers and
09:20kids in Majd al-Shams three weeks ago, or the Iranian missiles from Yemen to the south
09:28side, actually to Eilat, to the city of Eilat.
09:31And of course, the Hamas invasion on October 7th with Iranian weapon.
09:38And I think that the international community here in the United States, in Europe, in the
09:44United Kingdom, we must put Iran under pressure and we must put Hamas under pressure and actually
09:53say to Hamas, release them, release them now.
09:57We are trying to, as I said, to negotiate through the Americans.
10:01The Qataris and the Egyptians, and they are not there.
10:04So the problem is not in Jerusalem, it's not in Tel Aviv.
10:09It's not the Israeli cabinet, it's the Ihya Sinwar that actually learned from Adolf Hitler
10:16how to kill people alive.
10:18He is the problem and not the state of Israel or the Israeli cabinet.
10:23Our hearts go out to their families who held out such hope for all of these months since
10:27October 7th, only to find them murdered in a tunnel in Gaza.
10:32You're right.
10:33Ofer Akunas, the consul general of Israel here in New York, thank you.
10:38Thank you so much.
10:40Meanwhile, Jewish students experienced crushing discrimination on Columbia's campus this past
10:47spring.
10:48That, according to a new report by the university's anti-Semitism task force.
10:52It stresses an urgent need for change across the campus.
10:56CB Cotton is live in New York City with more on that.
10:59CB.
11:00Hi, John.
11:01Well, the task force says nearly 500 Columbia University students, Jewish, Israeli, and
11:05non-Jewish, were invited to share what they experienced in dorms, classrooms, or over
11:11social media post-October 7th.
11:14And one example, the report says an anonymous online platform for Columbia students was
11:19filled with hatred towards Jews with posts like, quote, if you support Israel, you are
11:25a piece of filth, not even worthy of being called human.
11:29I wish you enormous pain and suffering.
11:32Students walking on campus, in another example, in another example, the report says a Jewish
11:37student with a symbol of her faith outside her door endured, quote, banging on her door
11:43at all hours of the night, demanding she explain Israel's actions.
11:48She was forced to move out of the dorm.
11:50The task force also says it heard from Jewish students who self-identified as anti-Zionist
11:56with another example which reads, quote, another recounted seeing a female student wearing
12:02both a Star of David and a keffiyeh being verbally assaulted.
12:06The task force says the majority of these cases happened before encampments emerged
12:10on campus this spring, which at that point, the report says, quote, things got worse as
12:15Columbia students led a nationwide anti-war movement and eventually took over Hamilton
12:21Hall.
12:22The 90 page report released this past Friday comes just days before the start of Columbia's
12:26fall semester.
12:28And Jewish students tell us they don't know what to expect.
12:33So it's very difficult for us as Jewish students to judge until we're back on campus and see
12:38how Columbia handles its first hurdles.
12:40However, the university needs to put an end to harassment of students right now.
12:45And if the university really wants to protect freedom of speech, it's important to remember
12:49it can only occur if everybody is safe enough to speak.
12:53So Columbia's interim president, Katrina Armstrong, called all of the incidents in that report,
12:58quote, unacceptable.
13:00She also said she welcomes the task force's latest recommendations and those called for
13:04a revamped system to report allegations of anti-Semitism and improved anti-bias training.
13:10So John, we'll have to see what the university does.
13:13Back to you.
13:14We'll be watching CB Cotton in New York City, CB.
13:17Well, there's no question about it.
13:19Americans are shelling out lots of extra cash for food, gas and new homes.
13:25So what does Democrat presidential nominee Kamala Harris say she's going to do about
13:30it?
13:31Our economist, Peter Morrisey, breaks down her economic vision for us next.
13:36Ukraine's largest drone attacks yet took aim at Russia overnight.
13:40The drones struck power plants and oil refineries in Moscow and other parts of Russia.
13:45Stephanie Bendit with more from London.
13:47John, officials across Russia are scrambling to respond to what could be Ukraine's largest
13:53drone attack yet.
13:55Russia's defense ministry is claiming to have shot down 158 Ukrainian drones overnight that
14:00targeted 15 regions of the country, including Moscow.
14:03The assault targeted Russia's energy infrastructure, including oil refineries and power plants.
14:08Fires broke out at several facilities.
14:10No deaths or injuries have been reported.
14:13Officials also shot down drones over Russia's Kursk region, where Ukraine launched a surprise
14:17incursion on August 6th.
14:19Ukraine's attacks come after an intense week of strikes by Russia, including targeting
14:23Ukraine's energy grid, which killed at least nine people over two days.
14:27And on Friday, at least six people were killed and dozens injured in Kharkiv after a Russian-guided
14:32bomb attack.
14:33Victims were in a nearby apartment block, and a 14-year-old girl was on the playground.
14:38Despite this, civilians are trying to hang on to a sense of normalcy.
14:42Ukrainian students celebrated their first day back at school, just hours after a Don
14:46air raid alarm rang out.
14:48The conflict's front lines with Russia, just 25 miles away.
14:52We prepared everything for the new school year.
14:55Equipped the bunker in case of air alarms, so children will have a safe space because
14:59we continue lessons during the air raid alarms in the bunker.
15:04That's why I think everything would be good.
15:06Moreover, in this year, a lot of children wants to study in person, more than 500 children.
15:12Top Ukrainian officials are visiting Washington.
15:14They say Russia hit Ukraine with more than 400 drones and missiles in the last week.
15:19But Ukraine's allies have imposed restrictions that prevent it from using many weapons inside
15:23Russia, especially for long-range strikes.
15:25The Ukrainian delegation is requesting changes to that policy.
15:29For now, Ukraine is relying on domestically produced drones to strike Russia.
15:33John.
15:34Stephanie Bennett from London.
15:35Stephanie, thank you.
15:36It's going to be about, one, implementing my plan for what I call an opportunity economy.
15:43I've already laid out a number of proposals in that regard, which include what we're going
15:48to do to bring down the cost of everyday goods.
15:51What we have done to invest, by my calculation, over probably a trillion dollars over the
15:56next 10 years, investing in a clean energy economy.
15:59What we've already done, creating over 300,000 new clean energy jobs.
16:04We had to recover as an economy, and we have done that.
16:07I'm very proud of the work that we have done that has brought inflation down to less than
16:113 percent.
16:13Vice President Kamala Harris's economic agenda in the spotlight.
16:17As Americans endure prices that are up some 20 percent since she took office, her platform
16:23would crack down on the cost of groceries, hike the corporate tax rate, and target relief
16:29for the middle class, she says.
16:31But some economists warn her plans could come with hidden costs.
16:35Peter Morisi is an economist and professor emeritus at the University of Maryland.
16:40He joins us now.
16:41Peter, you just heard what the vice president had to say about the accomplishments of the
16:46Biden-Harris administration.
16:48She says inflation is under 3 percent.
16:51They've created 300,000 new jobs.
16:53Do you quibble with any of that?
16:54Well, I absolutely do.
16:56The previous administration created lots of jobs.
16:59People's incomes were rising faster than inflation.
17:02Minorities were doing a lot better.
17:04The people that have been hardest hit by the profligate spending of the Biden-Harris administration
17:10are the people at the bottom.
17:13The people that she says she wants to champion.
17:16After all, what's up the most?
17:18It's not 20 percent for food.
17:19It's much more.
17:20It's like 26 percent.
17:21Americans are spending more on food, groceries, than they have in three decades.
17:27You can't do without paying rent, and you can't do without car insurance.
17:32Yet, you know, those are up a great deal more than inflation.
17:37Inflation in the service sector is still running close to 5 percent.
17:41My feeling is, is the kinds of policies she's talking about are palatives.
17:46To spend another $1, $2, $3 trillion on the kinds of programs that she champions would
17:51require the Federal Reserve to print yet even more money, give us yet even more inflation.
17:58Americans are no better off today than they were just before COVID.
18:02And the bottom half of Americans is much worse off.
18:06You can't get around that.
18:07Those are hard numbers.
18:09She talks about creating an opportunity economy, but the details are mighty scarce, I guess
18:16I would say.
18:17Well, there will be lots of opportunities for the Wokies that went to Columbia University
18:21and Harvard and so forth and learned to hate capitalism, because they'll be the bureaucrats
18:26moving the money around.
18:28But you know, let's take a look at their chips initiative.
18:32They've poured a lot of money into the chips industry, and we're seeing that Intel is looking
18:37at breaking itself up because it can't make a profit.
18:40I don't know how they expect to deal with the chips problem until we deal with the fact
18:46that it costs about 35 percent more to manufacture chips in the United States than it does abroad
18:51because of all the regulatory barriers that good Democrats have put in place, just as
18:56they have, for example, in building a house and so forth.
18:59You know, giving people money to buy a house only bids up the price of housing.
19:05The basic problem is zoning in so many democratically controlled cities is so prohibitive that
19:11you can't really build housing for ordinary people.
19:17The coastal elites are happy, they keep builders out, and shortages continue to bedevil ordinary
19:26people.
19:27Yeah, she says she wants to give $25,000 to first-time homebuyers, but what happens if
19:31you do that?
19:32Well, it's just going to bid up the price.
19:34It's not really going to change anything.
19:37The reality is we're about 5 million homes short because of all the regulatory barriers
19:42that the good, woke politicians in the Northeast and so forth have created.
19:46You notice as people flee the cities to places like Boise, Idaho, they don't seem to have
19:51trouble building houses there.
19:53Where do they have the most trouble building houses?
19:56San Francisco, New York, Los Angeles, Chicago.
20:00The only thing that's changed in those cities about the fundamental environment over the
20:04last four or five years is they have become decidedly less safe as the Democrats have
20:10supported district attorneys that refuse to enforce the law.
20:17You know, it's funny.
20:18People say we should arrest all the rioters at Columbia University.
20:21I think we should, but could you see the district, the state's attorney in Manhattan doing anything
20:27about it?
20:28What will happen is he'll arrest them.
20:30They'll go to jail overnight.
20:32They'll be arraigned.
20:33A liberal judge will suspend their sentence and they'll be right back out there on the
20:37street.
20:38They won't be thrown out of school.
20:41The president of Columbia is talking about how she welcomes all these recommendations
20:45and so forth.
20:46Maybe she ought to start firing some faculty that are encouraging all this nonsense.
20:50But of course, she would really be firing herself, wouldn't she?
20:54A little bit of tough love on campus.
20:56Peter Morici, it's good to talk to you.
20:59Take care.
21:01Coming up on the Fox report.
21:03Now you see her.
21:04Now you don't.
21:05How visible does Kamala Harris need to be to try to win the twenty twenty four presidential
21:11race?
21:12A deep dive on that question next.
21:14A gymnast at the University of Wisconsin, Whitewater, is dead two days after she was
21:19shot multiple times.
21:21Police say Kara Welsh was shot inside an apartment in Whitewater on Friday.
21:25The suspect is currently in police custody at Walworth County Jail.
21:29Kara Welsh was expected to be a star for the gymnastics team this season.
21:33She was just twenty one years old.
21:38And the San Francisco forty niners first round pick in the twenty twenty four NFL draft was
21:43shot last night during an attempted robbery in the Bay Area.
21:47Ricky Pearsall is out of the hospital now.
21:50Christina Coleman in Los Angeles live with more.
21:54John, Ricky Pearsall was released from the hospital this afternoon as he continues to
21:58recover from the bullet wound to his chest.
22:01The shooting and attempted robbery happened in broad daylight around three thirty yesterday
22:06afternoon in the middle of this holiday weekend.
22:09Pearsall was shot right by San Francisco's Union Square, a popular tourist area with
22:14hotels, restaurants and upscale boutiques.
22:18Police say a 17 year old armed with a gun tried to rob Pearsall.
22:21A struggle ensued and they were both struck by gunfire, leaving the 23 year old wide receiver
22:28with a gunshot wound to his chest.
22:32There's no indication that he was targeted because he's a football player at this point.
22:37We believe that this was an attempted robbery and we're pretty confident about that.
22:44Pearsall was signing autographs and greeting fans just hours before he was shot this holiday
22:49weekend.
22:50The San Francisco 49ers released a statement last night saying, quote, Our thoughts and
22:54prayers are with Ricky and the entire Pearsall family.
22:58The mayor also weighed in.
23:01This was a terrible and rare incident in Union Square.
23:06And our thoughts are with Ricky Pearsall and his family.
23:12He has a bright future and I look forward to seeing him recover and get back on the
23:18field.
23:21And you can see Pearsall there bloody just after moments after that terrifying shooting
23:27in that popular tourist area.
23:30Police did not release the name of the 17 year old suspect in this case because he is
23:34a juvenile.
23:35They say he's from Tracy, California, about 60 miles east of San Francisco.
23:40Police believe the suspect acted alone at this point in their investigation.
23:44He was arrested almost immediately after the shooting as he tried to run away from the
23:48scene yesterday.
23:50He remains in custody and the D.A. says they expect to decide what charges he will face
23:54this week by Tuesday or Wednesday.
23:57John, glad to know that Pearsall is going to be OK.
24:00Christina Coleman in Los Angeles.
24:06Former Vice President Harris, first major sit down interview is drawing mixed reviews.
24:11I called her former.
24:12She's not former.
24:13She's current, obviously.
24:14And that one interview aside, she is still staying away from the news media.
24:19New York Post opinion piece declares the Harris campaign is riding a wave to defeat and could
24:25be setting a trap we've seen before.
24:27Joining us now, the author of that article, Julian Epstein.
24:30He's a Democratic consultant and former House Judiciary Committee chief counsel riding a
24:36wave to defeat Julian.
24:38Well, first, thanks for having me, John.
24:41I think the first thing you have to understand about the campaign right now is Trump is likely
24:45in the lead.
24:46If you look at the RCP average, the polling average, Harris is ahead by about one point
24:50one point seven point one point seven.
24:53Biden was ahead by six points.
24:55Clinton was ahead by five points in the 2020 and 2016 elections.
25:01So she is significantly behind those benchmarks.
25:03If you look at where she is in this critical swing states, particularly the Rustbelts,
25:08she is underperforming Biden by a factor of about two or three fold.
25:12So if the polling errors are anywhere close to where they were in 2016 or 2020, then she
25:18is behind on this race.
25:19And in fact, Nate Silver, who probably is the most sophisticated in crunching all the
25:24numbers, now has Trump at 56 percent chance of winning.
25:29So that's the first point.
25:30So she's likely behind.
25:32So what is she doing?
25:33Well, first, on the policy question, I think it's I think it's been somewhat confused.
25:38As you just spoke about with Peter in your previous segment, she swung left on economic
25:43policies with a new housing entitlement and price controls, which most economists, including
25:49economists on the left, have denounced as just very, very unsound and unwise.
25:54It's sort of a reprise of the public debt fueled spending of the Biden administration,
25:59which just got us more inflation and didn't provide good results.
26:03And then where she's trying to swing to the political center on issues like fracking and
26:08crime and migration.
26:11There's been no explanation as to the change other than sort of the head scratching.
26:15My values haven't changed.
26:16Well, you know, everyone I've spoken to says they just have no idea what that means.
26:20I mean, if you're if you're for strong borders because you think there are a lot of reasons
26:25this country needs to protect their borders and we don't have the public resources to
26:28fund the kind of migration that we've seen of 10 million, how do you then support that
26:34last year when we had open borders and now say you want closed borders?
26:38It's just there's no there's no real there there in the explanation.
26:42So I think what she's doing is digging a deeper hole.
26:46And that leads me to the third point, which I think is the reason that the campaign is
26:50making a mistake right now.
26:52The Republican attack on her coming into the fall is going to be very severe and it's going
26:57to go after both her authentic authenticity and her preparedness to be in office.
27:02A lot of the questions about her preparedness came from voices on the left, including Biden
27:07himself and and White House staff and Democrats on the left.
27:12So this is red meat for Republicans.
27:15And the decision to cocoon her to do a Rose Garden strategy, I think, is a big mistake
27:21because I think it's just going to underscore questions on the authenticity and preparedness
27:26issue.
27:27If you go ahead, you don't think you don't think the the Dana Bash interview on CNN helped
27:32her.
27:34I think it was a wash.
27:35I think I think she she passed.
27:39But I think having her I think having Waltz there was a mistake.
27:41I think it looked like she needed a chaperone.
27:44I think the questions from Dana Bash, the initial questions were tough, but there was
27:48a complete lack of follow up.
27:50And look, if you think about Bill Clinton in 1992 going on Arsenio Hall, you couldn't
27:56get between Bill Clinton and a camera.
27:59He would take every chance he could to get to a news reporter, get a live interview to
28:03showcase his incredible talents on policy and his understanding of culture.
28:08Same with Barack Obama.
28:09Remember 2008?
28:10Where did Barack Obama go when he wanted to talk about traditional marriage?
28:14He went to Rick Warren's church, an evangelical church, the most one of the most difficult
28:18venues for a Democrat.
28:20Both of those candidates not only pivoted to the center very clearly, but they went
28:25out and they explained themselves constantly, including in in hostile environments and with
28:31adversarial press.
28:32And they dazzled the public.
28:34I mean, I was just I was so proud every time I would see Clinton and Obama get out there
28:38because they were so skillful at that.
28:40The longer Harris resists doing that, the more you're going to see questions about her.
28:44It's been 42 days since she became the nominee.
28:47She is yet to hold a news conference.
28:50And Jason Miller of the Trump campaign says she's still not really agreed to debate.
28:55Listen.
28:56They refuse to accept the terms of the debate, which, again, everyone had already agreed
29:01to it.
29:02We'd agreed to it.
29:03ABC's agreed to it.
29:04The rules are the rules.
29:05They're not changing.
29:06But Kamala Harris and her campaign, they're afraid.
29:08Why did they wait 39 days to even do this joint interview where Kamala Harris spoke
29:13for all of 16 minutes and 29 seconds?
29:16And then now this is day 42 that Kamala Harris has gone without doing a solo interview.
29:22This is really bizarre.
29:23I think they're afraid that they don't want to put Kamala Harris out there.
29:26And you want to know why?
29:27Because she's going to have to answer for every bit of this last three and a half years.
29:32Not sure there are many times, Julian, when you would agree with Jason.
29:36But it sounds like you two are sort of on the same page here.
29:40Well, I'm looking at it as a Democrat and seeing what's coming.
29:43Go back to 92 for a second.
29:45When Clinton challenged Bush to debates and Bush was demurring on it, Clinton sent chicken
29:51mascots, as I pointed out in the piece in The Post today, to all of his public events.
29:55Seven foot chicken mascots.
29:57And they were hilarious.
29:58And they made the point that Bush was chicken to debate.
30:00I think the Republicans are going to start playing hardball with Harris like that.
30:04I think you're going to have a challenge not just to one debate, but to three debates.
30:07And if she resists, they're going to start sending the chicken maggots, the chicken mascots,
30:12rather.
30:13I mean, you know, the one thing is, is the media have been giving her a pretty, you know,
30:18wet kiss at this point, a pretty much of a free ride.
30:21But as soon as she trips, as soon as there's a mistake, as soon as it looks as if she's
30:26covering something up, the media flips into what I refer to as the FOMO swoon, the fear
30:30of missing out swoon, as they did with Joe Biden.
30:34Democrats thought they could ride out the Joe Biden issue, sort of hiding his infirmities
30:38from the press until they couldn't, until there was an event that made the entire narrative
30:43switch.
30:44Yeah.
30:45And so the idea of cocooning her in this Rose Garden strategy, it's very dangerous because
30:48that can flip at a minute.
30:50And when it flips, it's a torrent.
30:52Julian Epstein, let us know if anybody from Kamala Harris's office reaches out to you.
30:57That advice there was pretty tough.
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