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00:00If we have to find an amicable solution to this, what can it be in your opinion?
00:05That all parties should step back one by one.
00:07Obviously, a Supreme Court decision is in play, a review petition has already come out.
00:12Can the Parliament review it?
00:15I mean, we have to find a solution.
00:16We are the world's fifth largest democracy, a country of 250 million.
00:21The situation is on our security, on our eastern and western borders.
00:24Can we afford such political instability that, God forbid,
00:29as you have described, the situation in the country will be completely out of control?
00:36Look, the solution is very simple.
00:39The solution is simple.
00:41These special sessions, in practice and in reality,
00:47and without any doubt, are of the PTI.
00:51All the people who have won, they have won in the name of the PTI,
00:55despite all the opposition and difficulties.
00:58So, these sessions are made by them.
01:00So, I believe that in the spirit of law, and also in the sense of reality,
01:06these sessions should be given to the PTI,
01:08just like the Supreme Court decision.
01:10That should be reviewed.
01:12And these sessions should be given to them.
01:14What storm will come out of it?
01:16I mean, the government is not changing anywhere.
01:19The number of people will increase, and they will not get a two-third majority.
01:23But the two-third majority, as history shows, is a very dangerous thing.
01:27The one who gets it, he is destroyed under the influence of his power.
01:30So, I believe that if they accept it, the matter can move forward.
01:34Okay, Ahmed Bilal sahib, thank you very much for your time.
01:38Hassan Ayub, this situation has already developed.
01:41And on this, of course, it has to be decided at some level.
01:46We spoke to you a few days ago.
01:48You also thought that the Supreme Court should accept the review petition.
01:52And it is a different situation.
01:54It is a difficult situation.
01:55And to get out of it, there is something.
01:57Of course, this is the opinion of Ahmed Mehboob sahib.
02:00What do you think, in the coming days, what are you expecting?
02:04Hassan Ayub.
02:05Sir, the thing is that the expectation is that
02:10not a single seat will be given to our group of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaad.
02:15This is a matter of independence.
02:17Sorry, this is a matter of special seats.
02:20The rest of the questions are on the point of no return.
02:24Establishment and Imran Khan sahib.
02:26So, the situation is absolutely on that net.
02:31And the fundamental reason for this is that some of the characters,
02:36the character of Faiz Ameer, the character of Imran Khan sahib.
02:41Because the current establishment has tried to avoid any kind of conflict.
02:47But again and again, conspiracies, attacks, again and again, conspiracies, attacks.
02:52So then, enough is enough.
02:55When this situation has arisen, then the law is coming into effect.
03:00But despite this, whatever is going to happen will be according to the law.
03:05And according to the laws of Pakistan,
03:07the case of our chairman Tariq-e-Insaad will also be held in the military courts.
03:11So that case will be in the open court.
03:13Are you giving this news or are you hoping?
03:15This is news.
03:16This is news.
03:17If our chairman Tariq-e-Insaad's case will be held in the military courts,
03:20then it will be held in the open court.
03:22These security means, I am quoting them.
03:25And the case of General Faiz Ameer will not be held in the open court.
03:29The way the tradition is, it is already going on.
03:32According to that tradition, the case will not be held in the open court.
03:36The case of General Faiz Ameer will be held in the open court.
03:38But if there are any other chairmen or civilians, then their case will be in the open court.
03:41Mr. Chaudhary, the whole situation is in front of you.
03:44You have uninterrupted time, Mr. Chaudhary.
03:47Your comments.
03:49How much time?
03:50I am saying, uninterrupted Mr. Chaudhary, you speak.
03:53No, no, whatever he is saying,
03:57his refusal has happened last night.
03:59And it has happened this morning.
04:01So, what are the things that we should take forward?
04:04You are a reality, a political reality.
04:07You are a very powerful, popular party.
04:09You are its leader.
04:11How will you refuse them?
04:13You should do their open trial or closed door or whatever you want to do.
04:18People will not listen to you.
04:21One gentleman was saying that his support is over.
04:24So, good for him.
04:25We do not see any support like this.
04:29You also know what is happening in the country.
04:31So, the thing is that if you want political stability, economic development and the well-being of the people in Pakistan,
04:41then you will have to end this open trial.
04:44And the major reason for that is that you have trapped a party and its leader in 200-300 cases
04:53and we have not seen any genuine case.
04:56So, you have to return this.
04:59And it will be returned very soon.
05:01I say this again and again.
05:03Then you start fighting with me.
05:05No, no, there is no fight, Mr. Chaudhary.
05:06Just wait.
05:07There is no fight.
05:08Ladies and gentlemen, as you can see, we are diametrically opposed.
05:10On one hand, we are hearing the news of gloom and doom.
05:12And on the other hand, there is Mr. Chaudhary's opinion.
05:14On one hand, there is the rule of law and law.
05:16On the other hand, we are talking about political realities.
05:19Again, let's see.
05:20In coming weeks and months, what situation will develop?
05:23Let's go to the break.