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00:00This programme contains strong language and adult humour.
00:05APPLAUSE
00:31Good afternoon and welcome to Countdown Studio.
00:35Parents embarrassing their children.
00:38There's a survey, Rachel, there's a survey out.
00:411,058 children were asked, the age between six and 15,
00:46about the things that most embarrass them about their parents.
00:50Can I just read out a few of these stats here?
00:52Great, great. Thank you.
00:547%... I'm sorry to read this, actually.
00:577% said that hugging and kissing them in public was hugely...
01:01I kiss my children, who are now in their 30s and 40s, all the time.
01:05I think you should. So I think that's silly.
01:08Top of the list, with 16%, was parents singing.
01:13Oh. What? Yes, I'm with that.
01:15I don't think I ever heard my parents singing.
01:17I can't sing a single note.
01:19Neither can my parents, but it doesn't stop them.
01:22Especially my dad.
01:24My kids, actually, were very specific.
01:26And one of them said,
01:27my dad dances in the street, if he thinks I'm misbehaving,
01:30just to embarrass me. That's a bit unkind, isn't it?
01:33And secondly, my dad sings,
01:35when you're happy and you know it, clap your hands when I'm annoyed.
01:39That would drive you into a fury, wouldn't it?
01:41That's irritating. I don't know.
01:43Come on, you must have embarrassed your parents at some stage or another.
01:47I love, there was one story of a father who didn't like
01:50his younger daughter tweeting or Instagramming all these photos
01:53and chow parts and all the rest of it.
01:55So whenever she did one, he'd get pretty much the same clothes
01:58and he'd recreate it and post it himself to embarrass her into stopping.
02:02Oh, dear. Did it work? Thank God my dad's never done that.
02:05I think it did.
02:06Yeah, I mean, one picture of your dad in a crop top and pigtails
02:09is enough to cut that behaviour out.
02:11Gosh, that really is growing some, isn't it? All right.
02:14Now, Rach, we've got David Shipley back,
02:16retired chemical engineer from Yarm.
02:19And on Friday, we saw David's second win.
02:21How are you feeling? You had a restful weekend, I trust?
02:23I've recovered, yes. Excellent. Well done.
02:25Well, now you're joined by Phil Davies, a postman from Chelmsford
02:29who put in a 30-year stint with the police force as CID.
02:35CID, I guess you started as a constable on the beat,
02:38and then Special Branch. That's right, yeah.
02:40Excellent. Excellent.
02:42Well, you're very welcome here, both of you.
02:44Let's have a big round of applause for Phil and David.
02:47APPLAUSE
02:52And over in the corner after, I trust, a very restful weekend,
02:56Susie, of course, joined once again,
02:58until we can persuade her to come back,
03:00the wonderful Susanna Lipscomb, historian broadcast.
03:04And, in fact, in a sense, you're now on this wonderful panel show,
03:08insert name here with... Who else is on that with you?
03:11Sue Perkins chairs it, and Josh Whitacombe and Richard Osmant,
03:14and then a variety of comedians.
03:16You're there as a historian, but it's a lively show.
03:19It's very lively, yes. It's great fun.
03:21Good for you. All right.
03:23Let's move on now to the serious business of the day.
03:25David Shipley, it's a letters game.
03:27Good afternoon, Rachel. Afternoon, David.
03:29We'll start with a consonant, please. Thank you. Start with P.
03:32And a vowel.
03:34E.
03:35Another consonant.
03:37Q.
03:39And a vowel.
03:41I.
03:42And a consonant, please.
03:44H.
03:46And a vowel, please.
03:48A.
03:49And another consonant.
03:51L.
03:53And a consonant.
03:55Z.
03:56Oh, dear.
03:57And a vowel.
03:59And, lastly, I.
04:01And here's the countdown clock.
04:19CLOCK TICKS
04:32Well, David?
04:33Five.
04:34Five. Phil?
04:35Five.
04:36David?
04:37File.
04:38Now, Phil.
04:39File as well.
04:40There we go.
04:41Susie and Susannah.
04:43Yeah, that's excellent.
04:45File of blood, file of love potion, that kind of thing.
04:47P-H-I-A-L.
04:48Very, very good for five.
04:49Nothing else?
04:50Cannot beat that.
04:51No, nothing more impressive.
04:52Thank you.
04:53Five apiece.
04:55Phil, your letters game.
04:57Good afternoon, Rachel.
04:58Afternoon, Phil.
04:59A consonant, please.
05:00Thank you. Start with B.
05:02Another consonant.
05:04D.
05:06A vowel, please.
05:07O.
05:09A consonant.
05:11T.
05:13Another consonant.
05:15R.
05:16A vowel.
05:18E.
05:19A vowel.
05:21O.
05:23A consonant.
05:25L.
05:27And a final consonant, please.
05:29And a final R.
05:31Countdown.
05:46CLOCK TICKS
06:02Phil?
06:03Six.
06:04And David?
06:05Seven.
06:06Phil?
06:07Bolted.
06:08No, then David?
06:09Rootled.
06:10Rootled, good word.
06:12In the Antigrowth. Yeah, like that one.
06:14Very good.
06:16Suzanne, anything there?
06:18We had a debtor for six and a blooter for seven.
06:22A blooter?
06:23Well, it's a verb, actually.
06:25To hit or kick something hard and wildly.
06:27So you might blooter a ball over the goal.
06:30A blooter.
06:32Twelfth place, five.
06:33David, your numbers game.
06:35I'll have one big one, please, and five from the bottom row.
06:39Thank you, David. One large, five little.
06:41And the first one of the week is...
06:51And the target, 758.
06:53758.
06:55MUSIC
07:12MUSIC
07:27David?
07:28753.
07:30Five away. Phil?
07:32758, I think.
07:34Let's try.
07:35OK, so nine minus one.
07:37Nine minus one is eight.
07:39100 minus six...
07:4094.
07:41Times eight.
07:42Is 752.
07:44And then three times two is six, and add it on.
07:46Perfect. Well done.
07:47Good man.
07:48758.
07:49Well done.
07:52Very good.
07:53Propels you into a three-point lead there, 15-12,
07:56as we turn to our first tea-time teaser,
07:59which is Scare A Lot.
08:01And the clue.
08:02This can often scare a lot of young children in the shopping centre.
08:06This can often scare a lot of young children in the shopping centre.
08:27Welcome back. I left with the clue.
08:29This can often scare a lot of young children in the shopping centre.
08:33What scares them often?
08:36It's the escalator.
08:38Escalator.
08:40Escalator.
08:4115-12, Phil in the lead.
08:43Phil, your letters game.
08:45OK, can I start with a consonant, please?
08:47Thank you, Phil. D.
08:49And another consonant.
08:52M.
08:53A vowel, please.
08:55A.
08:56A consonant.
08:58V.
09:00A consonant.
09:02N.
09:03A vowel.
09:05I.
09:07A consonant, please.
09:09S.
09:12A vowel.
09:14A.
09:16And a final vowel, please.
09:18And the last one, E.
09:20Stand by.
09:33ELECTRONIC MUSIC PLAYS
09:52Well, Phil? I'm going to go for a seven.
09:54David? Seven.
09:56Two sevens? Yeah.
09:57Phil?
09:58One's a bit dodgy. Dive man.
10:00David? Maidens.
10:02No, not happy with dive man, I'm afraid. Not in. Sorry about that.
10:05And Susanna?
10:07Invades.
10:08Invades. Very good. Emigles?
10:10Yes, there is, actually.
10:12Adamines, or adamines, are there.
10:14A-D-A-M-I-N-E-S.
10:16Another term for adamite, and that is a zinc mineral
10:19occurring as yellow, green or colourless crystals.
10:22And that's an eight. Well done.
10:27Well done. So, 19 now.
10:29David's back in the lead, 19-15.
10:31And, David, it's your letters game.
10:33A consonant, please, Rachel.
10:35Thank you, David. T.
10:37And a vowel.
10:38U.
10:39And a consonant.
10:41M.
10:42And a vowel.
10:44A.
10:45And a consonant.
10:47N.
10:49And a vowel.
10:50I.
10:52And a consonant.
10:54T.
10:55And another consonant.
10:57C.
10:58And a vowel.
11:00And the last one, E.
11:02Countdown.
11:31Well, David?
11:33Five.
11:34Phil?
11:35Seven.
11:36And a seven. David?
11:38Antique.
11:39No.
11:40Phil Davies?
11:41Cat mint.
11:42Brilliant.
11:44It's really excellent.
11:46It's another term for catnip,
11:48the plant of the mint family,
11:50which has a smell that's really attractive to some cats.
11:53Fantastic. Well done.
11:57Well done.
11:58So, the lead changes yet again.
12:01Now, Susanna?
12:02We just had... We're scrambling around with fives, really.
12:05One, six, mitten, so you're better than us.
12:08Thank you. 22 to 19.
12:11And, Phil, you're back again.
12:13Now, numbers. Numbers this time.
12:15Can I have one large and five small, please?
12:17You can indeed. Thank you, Phil.
12:19One big, five little.
12:21And these ones are five.
12:23Ten.
12:24Four.
12:25Eight.
12:26Eight, two, and the large one, 25.
12:29And the target, 789.
12:32Seven, eight, nine.
12:57BUZZER
13:06Well, Phil?
13:07I've got 790.
13:10One away. How about David?
13:12I think I've got 789.
13:14Let's go.
13:15Eight times 25.
13:17Eight 25s are 200.
13:19Minus four.
13:21Minus 4196.
13:23Times four.
13:24Where's your other four?
13:25Oh, I haven't got another four, have I?
13:27Sorry, David.
13:28Phil, you're in.
13:29OK, so 25 times eight times four.
13:32Times eight times four, 800.
13:34Take away ten.
13:36Yeah, one away.
13:37789.
13:38Yes, if you say 25 times four is 100.
13:43Take away two for 98.
13:46Times that by eight for 784.
13:49And add on the five, that's 789.
13:51Fabulous.
13:52APPLAUSE
13:55As ever, spot on, of course she is.
13:5729 plays 19 as we turn now to Susanna.
14:02Susanna, amaze us.
14:05Well, 500 years ago this year, in July 1518,
14:10in Strasbourg, there was a dancing plague.
14:13And what happened is that 400 people started dancing
14:18for days, compulsively, without rest.
14:22And this carried on for about a month.
14:24And people were dying of heat stroke and exhaustion,
14:28heart attacks.
14:30Some reports suggest that up to 15 people a day were dying
14:33in the heat of the summer.
14:35And the thing you have to note is they were dancing
14:37involuntarily.
14:38So they were writhing in pain, they were shouting for help,
14:42you know, they were crying for mercy,
14:44but they couldn't stop dancing.
14:46And we're absolutely certain that it happened.
14:48There's dozens of chronicles, reliable, you know,
14:51sermons and municipal orders about it.
14:53And it's not the only time it happened in history either.
14:55There are three other dancing plagues,
14:57although some of those are less well attested.
14:59And, of course, the question is, what is going on?
15:02It's certain that the dancers were in some sort of state,
15:07that they were kind of in an altered state of consciousness,
15:10a bit like a trance, that they were seeing visions,
15:13they were saying that they could see demons and devils
15:15and that sort of thing.
15:16One theory has been that they ingested ergot,
15:19the kind of narcotic mould or fungus that can grow on rye bread
15:25or flour when it goes off.
15:27But it probably wouldn't produce those symptoms.
15:30I mean, this has been such a mystery that there's actually
15:32been an article about it in the Lancet magazine,
15:35the medical magazine, the Magazine Journal,
15:37suggesting that it must have been a kind of psychic,
15:40cultural contagion, that if you believed that there was
15:43a dancing curse that could affect you in circumstances
15:47of psychological or physical distress,
15:50then it could make people actually dance.
15:52But it remains pretty enigmatic and bizarre.
15:55Like L.P. Hartley said, the past is a foreign country,
15:58they do things differently there.
15:59Amazing. Thank you.
16:01APPLAUSE
16:05Yeah, it does make you think quite a lot.
16:0929-19, Phil in the lead.
16:11Now, then, David, you're back. Your letters game.
16:14I'll have a consonant, please, Rachel.
16:16Thank you, David. N.
16:17And a vowel.
16:19E.
16:20And a consonant.
16:22P.
16:23And a vowel.
16:25I.
16:26And a consonant.
16:28L.
16:29And a vowel.
16:31U.
16:33And a consonant.
16:35M.
16:37And a vowel.
16:39I.
16:40And a consonant.
16:41And lastly, V.
16:42Stand by.
17:09MUSIC
17:15David.
17:16Seven.
17:17Phil.
17:18Seven.
17:19Yes, David.
17:20Vulpine.
17:21Vulpine.
17:22Same word, vulpine.
17:24Very good.
17:25Yeah, excellent.
17:26And Susanna, Susie?
17:28Apart from that, six, lumpen.
17:30That's all we've got.
17:31Lumpen.
17:32Not nearly as good as vulpine.
17:33The poor old lumpen proletariat again.
17:35Yes.
17:37Well, there we are.
17:3936-26.
17:40Phil, your letters again.
17:42OK.
17:43Consonant, please.
17:44Thank you, Phil.
17:45S.
17:47A consonant.
17:48P.
17:50A vowel.
17:52U.
17:53A vowel.
17:55E.
17:56A consonant, please.
17:58L.
18:00A consonant.
18:02N.
18:04A vowel.
18:06E.
18:08A consonant.
18:10R.
18:11And a consonant, please.
18:13And lastly, X.
18:14Can.
18:15Can.
18:16MUSIC
18:35MUSIC CONTINUES
18:47Phil?
18:48Seven.
18:49Yes, David?
18:50Six.
18:51Your six?
18:52Prunes.
18:53Phil?
18:54Repulse.
18:55Very good.
18:56Very good.
18:57Now, Susanna?
18:58Same for us.
18:59Same for repulse.
19:00Yeah?
19:01You couldn't have a spurnee, I suppose, could you?
19:04Might find it in a historical dictionary, but not this one, I'm afraid.
19:07You're so kind.
19:10Thank you.
19:1143-26.
19:12David on 26.
19:13David's numbers game.
19:15I'll have six small ones, please.
19:17Thought you might say that, thank you, David.
19:19Six small ones, try to get some points back.
19:21Right, these little ones are four, one, eight, seven,
19:26another one and three,
19:29and the target, 246.
19:32MUSIC
20:03MUSIC STOPS
20:05David?
20:06246.
20:07246, and Phil?
20:09I've got 250.
20:10250?
20:11Yeah.
20:12David Shipley?
20:13Seven times four...
20:16Oh, sorry, seven... I've written it down.
20:18Oh, er...
20:20Seven times four...
20:2328.
20:26No, er, sorry, eight, er...
20:29I've got to stop it.
20:30Plus three, plus three times eight.
20:32It's written down.
20:34I know, but the thing is that we really can't, we can't allow it, David,
20:38because, you know, people then feel that they're being...
20:42Phil, can we turn to you?
20:44I did seven times four, 28.
20:4628.
20:47Minus three is 25.
20:4825.
20:49Then eight plus one, plus one is ten, and multiplied.
20:53Yep, 250.
20:55254 away.
20:57OK, I'm sorry about that, David, but those are the sort of tough old rules.
21:01Now, Rachel, 246?
21:03Yes, it was there if you say eight plus four is 12,
21:08times seven is 84,
21:11take two ones for 82 and times it by three.
21:16There we are.
21:17Well done, Rachel.
21:19Well done, well done.
21:21So, 50 plays 26 as we turn to our second Tea Time teaser,
21:25Lady's Nut, and the clue...
21:27The lady's nut stays warm because her beanie hat is this.
21:31The lady's nut stays warm because her beanie hat is this.
21:35MUSIC
21:43APPLAUSE
21:50Welcome back. I left you with the clue.
21:52The lady's nut stays warm because her beanie hat is this.
21:58It's insulated.
21:59Her beanie hat is insulated, thereby keeping her nut warm.
22:0450 plays 26, Phil on 50, and it's your letters game.
22:09Phil.
22:10Consonant, please, Rachel.
22:12Thank you, Phil.
22:13D.
22:15A vowel.
22:16A.
22:18Consonant.
22:20L.
22:22A consonant.
22:24T.
22:25A vowel.
22:27E.
22:29A vowel, please.
22:31A.
22:33A consonant.
22:35G.
22:37A consonant.
22:39F.
22:41And a consonant, please.
22:43And the last one, J.
22:45Stand by.
22:51MUSIC
23:16What do you think, Phil?
23:18I've just got a five.
23:19A five, David.
23:21Four.
23:23A four.
23:24Late.
23:25And, Phil?
23:26Gated.
23:27And gated.
23:28How are you spelling that?
23:29G-A-T-E-D.
23:30For a five, yeah. That's not fine.
23:32And Susanna?
23:33Gelada, which is a brownish baboon with a naked red rump.
23:38Oh, I've seen those on television.
23:40Well, these look very raw and sore.
23:43Well, maybe they are. We don't know.
23:45Well, you'd think that evolution would have straightened that out.
23:48Maybe they live in deep discomfort the entire time.
23:51That's awful. Poor old baboon.
23:5355 days, 26. Phil on 55. David, how about a letters game?
23:58Start with a consonant, please.
24:00Thank you, David. R.
24:02And a vowel, please.
24:04A.
24:06And a consonant, please.
24:08L.
24:09And a vowel, please.
24:11E.
24:12And a consonant.
24:13Y.
24:15And another consonant.
24:17D.
24:18And a vowel.
24:20O.
24:21And a consonant.
24:23T.
24:24And another consonant.
24:26And lastly, R.
24:27Stand by.
24:47MUSIC PLAYS
24:59David.
25:00Six.
25:01Phil.
25:02I've got six as well.
25:03David.
25:04Tard.
25:05And Phil?
25:06Dearly.
25:07Dearly.
25:08Very nice.
25:09Can we beat six, I wonder?
25:11We can. We've got leotard.
25:13Ah.
25:14And orderly.
25:16Yes, and a realtor. American estate agent.
25:18And a realtor.
25:19Yeah.
25:20All right, thank you. 61 to 32.
25:22Phil maintains his lead as we turn to Susie
25:25for her wonderful origins of words.
25:27Now, Susie?
25:29I was just going to pick up very briefly
25:31on something Susanna was talking about earlier,
25:33this dancing, this impulse to dance.
25:35And that is behind quite a lot of words in English,
25:38or at least three words I can think of.
25:40Tarentism was a disease that was thought to be exactly that,
25:43a psychological impulse to dance.
25:45And it was prevalent in Italy,
25:47particularly during the 15th and 17th centuries.
25:49And it was thought to be caused by the bite of a tarantula.
25:52And the tarantula and tarantism behind those words,
25:55a tarantula in Italy where it was first diagnosed, if you like.
25:59And the dance we still dance today is known as the tarantella.
26:03So it still sort of lives on, that mad, frenzied impulse to dance,
26:08which is pretty hellish.
26:10And I was going to talk today mostly about words to do with hell.
26:14So diabolical words, if you like.
26:17And hell has been around since Old English times as a word,
26:20as a name for the abode of the dead.
26:23And it comes from the Old English verb hellan,
26:25which meant to hide or to conceal.
26:27So it was somewhere hidden away where you would least like to go.
26:31Other English relatives that might surprise you,
26:34helmet, hull, hall, and whole and hollow,
26:37are all related to that word hell.
26:41Lucifer is another interesting one
26:43because Lucifer seems a bit of a contradiction in terms.
26:46Lucifer, obviously, the name for the devil,
26:48and yet it means light-bearing, so it seems a bit of a strange name
26:51for the prince of darkness, the exact opposite.
26:53The word is from lux, light, and then feri in Latin,
26:56to carry, so someone who carries light.
26:58And it was also applied to the morning star that heralds the dawn.
27:02But the reason it was applied to the devil
27:04is that it was applied to the name of the angel before his fall.
27:09So it was Satan before his fall.
27:11Christ talked about,
27:13I beheld Satan as a lightning fall from heaven.
27:16So that idea of a light disappearing,
27:18which was why it was applied to Satan.
27:21So it depicted his former respectability in heaven, if you like,
27:24before the fall.
27:26Devil itself, and diabolical,
27:28goes all the way back to the Greek diabolin,
27:31which meant to throw across, in other words, to slander,
27:35but also to thwart, so to thwart good with evil.
27:38Which means that the devil and diabolical, those two words,
27:41are linked to other strange mates, if you like, in English.
27:44Metabolism, ballistics, hyperbole, symbol,
27:47and perhaps more appropriately, parable and problem.
27:50And finally, the blue devils.
27:53The blue devils were the demons that were said to affect people
27:56with deep, deep melancholy.
27:58Big belief, again, in the 17th century,
28:00that they would haunt the mind of somebody
28:02who was prone to feeling sad and blue.
28:04Blue devils eventually shortened to the blues,
28:06which is why we talk about having the blues today,
28:08and that, in turn, in the 20th century,
28:10was applied to the music called the blues, the melancholy music.
28:13Fabulous.
28:15APPLAUSE
28:18Thank you. 61 to 32.
28:21Phil in the lead. Phil, let us go.
28:23OK, thank you. Consonant, please.
28:25Thank you, Phil. S.
28:27A consonant.
28:29W.
28:31A consonant.
28:33R.
28:36A consonant.
28:38S.
28:40A vowel.
28:42E.
28:44A vowel.
28:46O.
28:48A consonant.
28:50D.
28:52A consonant.
28:54T.
28:56And a vowel.
28:58And lastly, E.
29:00Stand by.
29:05ELECTRONIC MUSIC PLAYS
29:27Phil. Seven.
29:29A seven. David. Eight.
29:32Phil. I've got worsted.
29:34Yes, worsted and David.
29:36Restored. And restored.
29:38Oh, you need two Rs there, David.
29:40Oh, yeah. Sorry.
29:42Bad luck, bad luck. Now, Susanna and Susie.
29:45Yes, worsted and towered for seven as well.
29:486J plays 32. David on 32.
29:50And it's David's letters game. Yes, sir.
29:52A consonant, please.
29:54Thank you, David. N.
29:56And a vowel.
29:58U.
30:00S.
30:02And a vowel, please.
30:04O.
30:06And a consonant.
30:08R.
30:10And a vowel.
30:12I.
30:14And a consonant, please.
30:16M.
30:18And another consonant, please.
30:20K.
30:22And a vowel, please.
30:24And lastly, A.
30:26Stand by.
30:28MUSIC PLAYS
30:53David. Five.
30:55A five from David, Phil.
30:58Sorry, I've lost it. No, I haven't got one.
31:00David. Norms.
31:02Norms from David. Susanna.
31:05Unmasked for six. Oh, good.
31:07Yes, and manoirs for seven.
31:10So, they are large country houses or manor houses in France.
31:15Yes. Thank you.
31:1768-37.
31:19Now, Phil, final numbers game.
31:21One large and five small, please.
31:23Thank you, Phil. One from the top row.
31:25No, not from the top row.
31:27And the final selection of the day is three, nine, seven, five,
31:32ten and 50.
31:35And the target, 549.
31:37Five, four, nine.
31:39MUSIC PLAYS
31:55MUSIC STOPS
32:09Phil. Yeah, 549.
32:11And David. 549.
32:13Phil.
32:15OK, 50 plus five.
32:1755. Times ten.
32:19550.
32:21Seven plus three.
32:23Minus nine is one.
32:25Take it away. 549.
32:27Very neat. And David.
32:29Ten times 50.
32:31Ten fifties 500.
32:33Nine plus three minus five.
32:35Three minus five is seven.
32:37Times the other seven.
32:39Is the 49. Lovely. Well done.
32:41Very neat. Very good.
32:43APPLAUSE
32:45All right, so we go into the final round, conundrum time,
32:48with the score standing 78 to Phil, David on 47.
32:52Fingers on buzzers, let's roll today's countdown conundrum.
32:56MUSIC PLAYS
33:23MUSIC STOPS
33:27No, bad luck. Let's roll it and see what the answer is.
33:31Mundanely. There we go.
33:34So, David, bad luck.
33:36You had a couple of unfortunate little timely things there,
33:40but you're going to take this goodie bag back to Yarm
33:44with our very best wishes.
33:46Well played, actually. Well played.
33:48And Phil?
33:50Well done. 78. First time out. That's not bad.
33:53Thank you. That's very, very good indeed.
33:55We look forward to seeing you tomorrow.
33:57Thank you very much. Well done.
33:59Unfortunately, we have to say farewell to Susanna
34:02until we can persuade her to come back.
34:04It's always a pleasure, because your stories are so fresh.
34:07Well, they're not fresh, actually. They're historical.
34:09They're quite old, yeah. They're so fresh to us.
34:12You know, they're entertaining. Thank you so much.
34:15You come and see us soon again. All right.
34:17See you tomorrow. See you then. See you tomorrow.
34:19So who's taking over from Susanna tomorrow?
34:21We've got Alexis Conran in tomorrow.
34:23We'll see you then? See you then. Look forward to it.
34:25Join us then, same time, same place, you'll be sure of it.
34:28A very good afternoon to you.
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34:48Tonight at nine, a chilling documentary,
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