Protestors gathered outside Victory Gate in Portsmouth in response to the ship's visit.
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00:30Why? Because it was used as a torture centre in 1973 by the Pinochet regime.
00:39And in that chip, many of our Chilean compatriots were killed or disappeared,
00:46and amongst them, a British priest, Father Michael Woodward,
00:51was arrested and tortured for six days, and then he disappeared,
00:57and never we have found his remains.
01:00Michael Woodward's family have been campaigning tirelessly
01:04to ask the Chilean Navy for the whereabouts of their relatives,
01:10but also campaigning to the British government
01:15to stop that chip from coming to British waters,
01:20and because of the violation of human rights committed inside that chip.
01:27So that's why we are here.
01:29Because some of our relatives also disappeared or were tortured there.
01:34So how does it make you feel that, almost a symbol of the Pinochet regime,
01:39how does it make you feel that that is now being used as a diplomatic tool by Chile itself?
01:45Carlos? And then Lucho.
01:49Well, it is unthinkable that Chile had to be represented by a chip with that history.
01:56That's our position.
01:59And it is a kind of wound that is still festering at the moment.
02:13There hasn't been any possibility of the military, and especially the Navy, to do that right.
02:22We are asking them to put on the chip something to remember the people that died there.
02:28And it hasn't happened.
02:31Lucho, how does it make you feel?
02:35Well, mixed feelings, really.
02:38Because I am from the hometown where this chip is placed.
02:43And therefore, the issue for us is exactly what my companion has said.
02:51It is a representative of torture, violation of human rights.
02:55And although this Navy crew were not even born at the time of the coup,
03:00we want them to be aware what was the meaning of being born.
03:05Why being used?
03:07But it has always been a representative, right?
03:10But what makes it seem worse is the fact that the Pinochet regime used the torture of people like us
03:16and made them disappear.
03:18And that's why we are protesting against the fact that it's going to British waters
03:23The Chilean Navy has not made any recognition of the fact that the bomb was used for torture.
03:30The visit of this ship to me made me very angry.
03:35Because it's a shame that the British government allowed this ship to come to British waters
03:44and allowed a ship that was used on the violation of human rights to dock here.
03:52And when the British government was also responsible for the hawking hunters
03:57that bombed the presidential palace in 1973.
04:01So as Luis said, it's very mixed feelings when we see this.
04:07Before 1973, we were very proud of this boat.
04:12It represents a lot to us.
04:14After 1973, it's just a shameful ship.
04:19The blood of our brothers and sisters have stained that boat, have stained that ship.
04:26And it will never be clean again.
04:29You see that it's a white boat, but it's neither white nor pure.
04:34It was a center of torture.
04:36The issue, in addition to what my companion has said, is the fact that the Royal Navy should have said
04:45we are not going to sell you any more boats until you recognize that these boats that come into Britain's waters
04:51were used as a torture center.
04:53There should be a condition for selling weapons and ships to the Royal Navy.
05:00So with this ship as things stand, what do you think should happen to it now?
05:04It should be departed as soon as possible.
05:07It shouldn't be allowed to stay five days in British waters.
05:12It shouldn't be allowed to be representing diplomatically the Chilean Navy when it was a torture center.
05:21Why should it be allowed to dock in British waters?
05:24Why should our government allow this boat with such a shameful part to dock here?
05:32So, no, it shouldn't. It's a shame.
05:35It's a shame on us, shame on the British government.
05:38Tomorrow, according to a member of the public who supports you guys and has different opinions of the ship itself,
05:44what are those opinions and what is your reaction to what just happened there?
05:50Well, this man had a son in the crew.
05:54And he has all the right to say that history has changed, right?
05:58Because his son is new about it.
06:01But his father hasn't recognized the fact that it was used as a torture center.
06:05That's the issue. And we want to keep this memory alive.
06:08We want the crew to know what was used for.
06:13We don't want people to forget.
06:15And we want the Chilean people, the young Chilean people, and also the young British people here to know what happened,
06:23to know history, and to never allow that history to repeat again.
06:29Because when we talk about atrocities committed around the world, and we say never again,
06:36that is precisely what we are saying.
06:38And when this person was saying, oh no, no, no, but everything has changed.
06:42No, nothing has changed.
06:43When you don't have justice, when people don't want to acknowledge that crimes have been committed,
06:52then nothing has changed.
06:54Since you guys obviously have a family connection of what happened on that ship, relatives have gone on there,
07:01what do you want the Chilean nation to do now?
07:05The Chilean nation?
07:06What do you want the Chilean nation to do, and what do you want the Royal Navy to do in response to this?
07:10We want the Royal Navy to request from the Chilean Navy to recognize the fact that it was used as a torture center.
07:18And to tell the Chilean people and to the British people that they are sorry about it, and it will never happen again.
07:26That's what we want them to say.
07:28They should not do that.
07:29They should not send this ship around the world as an embassy of a country.
07:37It's an offense to the relative, to a part of our history.
07:44And they shouldn't, because it's really laughing in our faces at the end of the day.
07:49And they're laughing into the Chilean history.
07:51So why to use that specific ship to do the publicity of the Chilean government or this kind of diplomatic embassy?
08:04It doesn't make any sense.
08:07Finally, the main thing we are doing is trying to find again the negation of what happened.
08:14That's negationismo in Chile, which is quite common somewhere else as well.
08:19It's like people in Germany trying to deny that the Holocaust happened.
08:24Same happening in Chile.
08:26So that's our duty, is to be doing this protest, reminding people of this.
08:3450 years on, we will still go on until we find answers to the whereabouts of the people that disappeared in that boat.
08:43And we are asking the Trojan Navy and also the Chilean Navy, once and for all, to let us know where are they,
08:54to give us a closure so we can move on.
08:58Until we have justice, we cannot move on.
09:01At my 80 years of age, I have to come here and protest. That's not right.